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1. 03:39 AM - Re: capacitance fuel probes (John Alexander)
2. 07:22 AM - Need advice on TruTrak ADI (Lynn Matteson)
3. 08:00 AM - Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI (fox5flyer)
4. 08:27 AM - Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI (FlyboyTR)
5. 08:54 AM - Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI (Fred Shiple)
6. 11:24 AM - Re: capacitance fuel probes (n85ae)
7. 12:06 PM - Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI (Marco Menezes)
8. 12:06 PM - Re: Re: capacitance fuel probes (fox5flyer)
9. 12:07 PM - Small leak? (RAY Gignac)
10. 12:26 PM - Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI (FlyboyTR)
11. 01:08 PM - Re: E-bay Mod 3 or 4 (Marin Streeter)
12. 01:21 PM - Re: Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI (Lynn Matteson)
13. 01:21 PM - Re: Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI (Lynn Matteson)
14. 01:33 PM - Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI (FlyboyTR)
15. 01:43 PM - Re: Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI (Marco Menezes)
16. 01:52 PM - Re: capacitance fuel probes (n85ae)
17. 01:55 PM - Re: Small leak? (Lynn Matteson)
18. 01:55 PM - Re: E-bay Mod 3 or 4 (Marco Menezes)
19. 03:54 PM - Re: E-bay Mod 3 or 4 (Noel Loveys)
20. 04:35 PM - Re: Small leak? (kerrimikehickman@aol.com)
21. 04:58 PM - Re: Small leak? (n85ae)
22. 05:00 PM - Re: Small leak? (Guy Buchanan)
23. 05:00 PM - Re: Re: Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI (Guy Buchanan)
24. 05:07 PM - Re: Small leak? (RAY Gignac)
25. 05:08 PM - Re: Small leak? (RAY Gignac)
26. 09:06 PM - First Rotax e-learning module - carburetors (SUE MICHAELS)
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| Subject: | Re: capacitance fuel probes |
I've never done any fiberglass work, but when I built my first plane, I'd never
done any fabric work. It'll just be a learning curve.
I plan to go whole hog on this one. A Dynon D-100 EFIS, EMS-120, fuel flow sensor,
and so on. I'll likely install a sight gauge as well as a capacitance gauge.
Why??? Well... why not??
John Alexander
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:50:37 -0800, flybymike wrote
> John,
> I have installed a lot of the capacitance fuel probes in other planes. Most
of those probes can be cut down in length to fit your application. Youcould to
run it at an angle, like from the outboard top of the tank to the inboard bottom.
This angle would allow a longer probe and be more accurate. A threaded boss
could be glassed into the tank and the probe threads into that but you would
have to have a way to remove the probe after the wing is finished, for maintanence.
Although it would be cool to do that and I thought about it myself since
I installed a Dynon D-180 but I just went with the sight guages. It is not
hard to do if you have some fiberglass experience.
>
> Mike Custard
> Bend, Or
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| Subject: | Need advice on TruTrak ADI |
I'm thinking of getting a TruTrak ADI, and need some input. At first
I was going to go with a 2-1/4" unit...due to room restrictions...and
keep my 3-1/8" electric turn coordinator. Now I'm thinking of going
with the 3-1/8" unit, as I see that it has a ball included...the
2-1/4" does not.
I would be removing my present 3-1/8" turn coordinator, and in its
place install the TruTrak 3-1/8" ADI. As I see it, I would still have
a ball, still have bank information, and gain pitch information, right?
What I'm trying to do is "buy some insurance" in the event that I get
stupid (again) and fly into IMC.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/470+ hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI |
Go for it Lynn. You won't be sorry. Mine works great and the factory
support is superb.
Deke
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:19 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Need advice on TruTrak ADI
>
> I'm thinking of getting a TruTrak ADI, and need some input. At first I
> was going to go with a 2-1/4" unit...due to room restrictions...and keep
> my 3-1/8" electric turn coordinator. Now I'm thinking of going with the
> 3-1/8" unit, as I see that it has a ball included...the 2-1/4" does not.
> I would be removing my present 3-1/8" turn coordinator, and in its place
> install the TruTrak 3-1/8" ADI. As I see it, I would still have a ball,
> still have bank information, and gain pitch information, right?
>
> What I'm trying to do is "buy some insurance" in the event that I get
> stupid (again) and fly into IMC.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/470+ hrs
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI |
Lynn,
I recently installed an ADI Pilot II autopilot. Please see the thread: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=37409
The ADI provides pitch and roll information via electronic gyros, ball and DG (directional
gyro...heading) information via GPS ( you can slave to the ADI through
your GPS if it has the appropriate NMEA output...otherwise you will need
to add the internal GPS). The heading will not show up until you are going 15-20
MPH. Please note the OD of the unit 3.4X3.4". This OD was slightly larger
than the instrument the ADI replaced...this was an issue and I had to shift
6 switched down 1/8" for clearance.
I purchased my unit from Jim at www.Oxaero.com He is located in Oxford, MS. Jim was very helpful, provided detailed responses to my questions and was a pleasure to work with. ...also saved me a few $$$.
I have been very pleased with my system. One of our local KF4 pilots (Catz...Dick
M.) recently installed the ADI in his plane. He is also very happy with it.
Hope this helps!
Travis :D
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Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
IFR with Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
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| Subject: | Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI |
Lynn
I recently installed the ADI after flying with it in a friends plane. It's well
worth the price. Tru Trak was as excellent support resource in my installation.
Fred
I'm thinking of getting a TruTrak ADI, and need some input. At first
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| Subject: | Re: capacitance fuel probes |
Why not? Well you can certainly install anything you want. But you won't
gain anything really. The factory sight tubes work fine, and I find seeing
the fuel more reassuring than any gauge I've ever used.
You will spend more time and money by putting them in. Which is a
negative.
I put $10K in IFR avionics in mine, not to mention what I spent on
flight instruments and frankly were I to do it again I would have just
put in a Comm, and every couple years simply upgraded to the
latest handheld GPS and spend the money saved on things like
guitars. :)
I built a Series 5, and it came out well and I think comparing it to other
Kitfoxes it is one of the nicer ones out there. I spent 2.5 years on it. In
hindsight, were I to do it again, I would have not wasted as much time
as I did on some of the things I did. I have found as a end user of the
finished plane, that they (Kitfoxes) are really a pretty utilitarian plane,
and they aren't ever going to provide the ride comfort of say a
Bonanza, so I think just putting them together carefully, and just put in
what the plane really needs to be flyable is the most important thing.
On the other had I have a friend who's on probably year twelve of his
Kitfox, and while it will be a work of art, I think he's wasting his time.
Especially the first time he lands on a muddy runway and get mud
splattered all over it inside an out. :)
I'm sure a lot of the guys out there who are flying them know what I
mean. I say build it simply, and quickly and then use the plane for
what its good for which is flying whenever you have time to get out
in the air.
Regards,
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI |
Lynn,
I made the same decision after my ill-advised IMC adventure on the way home from
OSH last year. Did not know that the 2 1/4" doesn't feature a ball, but it
makes sense as small as it would have to be. That complicates things for me,
however, having no 3 1/8" openings to spare and little room to add a new hole.
I was hoping to pick one up at Sun-n-fun in April but don't really want to have
to reconstruct my panel to accommodate it.
I see no down-side for you in replacing turn-coordinator with ADI.
do not archive
Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
I'm thinking of getting a TruTrak ADI, and need some input. At first
I was going to go with a 2-1/4" unit...due to room restrictions...and
keep my 3-1/8" electric turn coordinator. Now I'm thinking of going
with the 3-1/8" unit, as I see that it has a ball included...the
2-1/4" does not.
I would be removing my present 3-1/8" turn coordinator, and in its
place install the TruTrak 3-1/8" ADI. As I see it, I would still have
a ball, still have bank information, and gain pitch information, right?
What I'm trying to do is "buy some insurance" in the event that I get
stupid (again) and fly into IMC.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/470+ hrs
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Re: capacitance fuel probes |
I agree Jeff, especially about the sight gauges. They never lie to you.
Every couple years it's a simple matter of spending 20 minutes each side
replacing the Tygon tubing that gets discolored. The rest of the stuff is
good advice for the most part, but this is all about experimentation and
coming up with a better product. However, some feel it's about coming up
with a more expensive product, something we can't all share in. If I build
another Kitfox--and I'm thinking about it--I gaurantee it'll be much simpler
and lighter, but the way prices have gone up, not cheaper.
For now, I pretty much like the one I have and so long as I have it I'll
keep thinking of ways to improve on it with minor tweakings each year during
the annual (in progress).
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."
- Joseph Joubert
>
> Why not? Well you can certainly install anything you want. But you won't
> gain anything really. The factory sight tubes work fine, and I find seeing
> the fuel more reassuring than any gauge I've ever used.
>
> You will spend more time and money by putting them in. Which is a
> negative.
>
> I put $10K in IFR avionics in mine, not to mention what I spent on
> flight instruments and frankly were I to do it again I would have just
> put in a Comm, and every couple years simply upgraded to the
> latest handheld GPS and spend the money saved on things like
> guitars. :)
>
> I built a Series 5, and it came out well and I think comparing it to other
> Kitfoxes it is one of the nicer ones out there. I spent 2.5 years on it.
> In
> hindsight, were I to do it again, I would have not wasted as much time
> as I did on some of the things I did. I have found as a end user of the
> finished plane, that they (Kitfoxes) are really a pretty utilitarian
> plane,
> and they aren't ever going to provide the ride comfort of say a
> Bonanza, so I think just putting them together carefully, and just put in
> what the plane really needs to be flyable is the most important thing.
>
> On the other had I have a friend who's on probably year twelve of his
> Kitfox, and while it will be a work of art, I think he's wasting his time.
> Especially the first time he lands on a muddy runway and get mud
> splattered all over it inside an out. :)
>
> I'm sure a lot of the guys out there who are flying them know what I
> mean. I say build it simply, and quickly and then use the plane for
> what its good for which is flying whenever you have time to get out
> in the air.
>
> Regards,
> Jeff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162855#162855
>
>
>
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Today I discovered the slight faint smell of fuel coming from my right fuel
tank hose attachment. I used my flashlight to inspect and found a green co
lor around the barbed fitting. It could be that the hose clamp needs to be
tighter, or I might need to remove the barbed fitting! If I have to remov
e the fitting, what is used to seal the threads when reinstalled? Oh, this
is the main fuel attachment fitting.
Thanks
Ray
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| Subject: | Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI |
As an FYI...if the 2" unit would accommodate your panel, you could get a free standing
ball/bank indicator. They attached directly to the face of your panel.
Aircraft Spruce has them for around $30-40.
http://aircraftspruce.com/menus/in/bankindicators.html
This would be a simple fix and allow you to use the 2" ADI.
Travis :D
--------
Travis Rayner
Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
IFR with Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162871#162871
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| Subject: | E-bay Mod 3 or 4 |
Look at the exhaust it comes out the front. I think that it is a 912.
Marin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: E-bay Mod 3 or 4
OK, if it is a 582 and complete, whether a B or C box, it's definitely
a
"grab it now" deal for someone. Just enough left to do to be familiar
with
the airplane, yet most of the time consuming stuff is done. I think I
saw a
set of wings hanging on the wall. Please give us a report on what the
seller says.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but
progress."
- Joseph Joubert
From: Marco Menezes <mailto:msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: E-bay Mod 3 or 4
I don't know Deke. Looks like a 582 box up front, be it a B or C. Can't
explain the oil coolerish thing up there. Also, don't see any wings.
I'll
ask the seller.
Marco
do not archive.
fox5flyer <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> wrote:
Marco, the ad gives a nice history of Kitfox, but nothing about the
aircraft
that is for sale. Are you sure that it's a 582 C-box? Looks somewhat
like
a B-box to me. Also, when did 582s start using oil coolers? Is that an
oil
cooler I'm seeing? Could that possibly be a 912 under there?
Just a few things that don't make sense.
Deke
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Marco Menezes <mailto:msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:51 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: E-bay Mod 3 or 4
There's what looks like a 75% or so complete model 3 or 4 with 582 (c
box)
and grove gear on e-bay now with a "buy-it-now" price of $15K.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI |
I'd need to move my starter button to install the 2'' unit, and keep
my TC. Or put the smaller unit where the TC is now and have to make
a reducing adapter. At $200 more for the 2", and needing to move the
starter, it makes better sense for me to go with the larger unit.
Good suggestion, though, Travis.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/470+ hrs
On Feb 7, 2008, at 3:24 PM, FlyboyTR wrote:
>
> As an FYI...if the 2" unit would accommodate your panel, you could
> get a free standing ball/bank indicator. They attached directly to
> the face of your panel. Aircraft Spruce has them for around $30-40.
> http://aircraftspruce.com/menus/in/bankindicators.html
> This would be a simple fix and allow you to use the 2" ADI.
>
> Travis :D
>
> --------
> Travis Rayner
> Mobile, AL
> Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
> Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
> IFR with Autopilot
> AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162871#162871
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI |
Travis, Deke, Fred, and Marco-
Thanks for the info and suggestions. In looking at the specs for the
TC that I'll be removing, I see that it is 3-3/8" x 3-3/8", and the
ADI that I'll be going with is (like you said for the ADI autopilot,
Travis) 3.4"x 3.4". I think that'll be close enough for government
work. : ) I'm sure that I've got enough spacing already between
instruments to allow installation, but I'll plan on extra time to
install if it comes time for some metallic surgery. I've got my
Garmin 296 home with me now, and I just ran through the instructions
for getting the 4800 baud rate set. I hope this doesn't affect my
GPS's operation while I'm waiting for the "Big Brown Truck" to
arrive. I'll check with TruTrak when I place my order.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/470+ hrs
On Feb 7, 2008, at 11:24 AM, FlyboyTR wrote:
>
> Lynn,
> I recently installed an ADI Pilot II autopilot. Please see the
> thread: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=37409
> The ADI provides pitch and roll information via electronic gyros,
> ball and DG (directional gyro...heading) information via GPS ( you
> can slave to the ADI through your GPS if it has the appropriate
> NMEA output...otherwise you will need to add the internal GPS).
> The heading will not show up until you are going 15-20 MPH. Please
> note the OD of the unit 3.4X3.4". This OD was slightly larger than
> the instrument the ADI replaced...this was an issue and I had to
> shift 6 switched down 1/8" for clearance.
>
> I purchased my unit from Jim at www.Oxaero.com He is located in
> Oxford, MS. Jim was very helpful, provided detailed responses to
> my questions and was a pleasure to work with. ...also saved me a
> few $$$.
>
> I have been very pleased with my system. One of our local KF4
> pilots (Catz...Dick M.) recently installed the ADI in his plane.
> He is also very happy with it. Hope this helps!
>
> Travis :D
>
> --------
> Travis Rayner
> Mobile, AL
> Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
> Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
> IFR with Autopilot
> AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162834#162834
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI |
Lynn,
You're welcome! Sounds like you are on the right track so that you end up with
the larger unit. ...that would be my choice.
Travis :D
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Travis Rayner
Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
IFR with Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
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| Subject: | Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI |
Yeah, I have one of those Travis. I was hoping to replace it with the ADI. So either
way, I need another hole in the panel. It's tight, as you can see.
FlyboyTR <flyboytr@bellsouth.net> wrote:
As an FYI...if the 2" unit would accommodate your panel, you could get a free standing
ball/bank indicator. They attached directly to the face of your panel.
Aircraft Spruce has them for around $30-40.
http://aircraftspruce.com/menus/in/bankindicators.html
This would be a simple fix and allow you to use the 2" ADI.
Travis :D
--------
Travis Rayner
Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
IFR with Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162871#162871
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Re: capacitance fuel probes |
Deke -
For me during the building part I had a lot of grand ideas, but once I started
flying the plane I started feeling differently about a lot of them.
For example IFR, well I'm instrument rated, and I trust my plane. BUT I will
not fly it IFR, because it's simply not a stable flying plane like a 172, When
I built it though, it was certainly my intention to fly IFR in it. You could fly
IFR in it, and mine has gone through some layers. But I sure don't want
to spend 2 hours hand flying that thing in the clouds.
Paint, I would have painted it Polytone if I built it today just because it is
a simpler paint system. And now I kind of like the semi-gloss finish. My
Aerothane looks really nice, and I'm happy with it. But I would be happy
with Polytone as well, so ... I think I'd go the simpler route.
Other things like aluminum fuel lines, and aeroquip in place of the factory
rubber lines cost more, but make me feel better so I'm happy with those.
Well, anyway you are correct it is up to each to build what his heart
desires. On the CH801 I'm building now, it has seen a lot of upgrades
but those are things like using solid rivets in some high stress areas,
and upgrading some structural parts from like .025 to .032 just because
it makes me feel better.
Actually after losing the engine once, and ground looping it another time
now I'm into anything that keep the prop turning, OR keeps the occupants
safe if it doesn't ... :)
Jeff
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I used Permatex Aviation Cement, I think it's called. I got it at an
auto parts store. Also, "3H" sticks in my mind. Maybe the "cement"
part is wrong, but definitely Permatex, and definitely "aviation" in
the title. Makes you feel important when you buy it, too! : )
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/470+ hrs
On Feb 7, 2008, at 3:04 PM, RAY Gignac wrote:
> Today I discovered the slight faint smell of fuel coming from my
> right fuel tank hose attachment. I used my flashlight to inspect
> and found a green color around the barbed fitting. It could be
> that the hose clamp needs to be tighter, or I might need to remove
> the barbed fitting! If I have to remove the fitting, what is used
> to seal the threads when reinstalled? Oh, this is the main fuel
> attachment fitting.
>
> Thanks
> Ray
>
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| Subject: | E-bay Mod 3 or 4 |
Well whatever it was, it's moot now. Seller has withdrawn the listing "because
of an error." ? Never did respond to my inquiry. Seemed too good to be true, and
apparently it was.
do not archive
Marin Streeter <alderacres@foxinternet.net> wrote:
Look at the exhaust it comes out the front. I think that it is
a 912.
Marin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: E-bay Mod 3 or 4
OK, if it is a 582 and complete, whether a B or C box, it's definitely a "grab
it now" deal for someone. Just enough left to do to be familiar with the
airplane, yet most of the time consuming stuff is done. I think I saw a set
of wings hanging on the wall. Please give us a report on what the seller says.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."
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From: Marco Menezes
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: E-bay Mod 3 or 4
I don't know Deke. Looks like a 582 box up front, be it a B or C. Can't explain
the oil coolerish thing up there. Also, don't see any wings. I'll ask the
seller.
Marco
do not archive.
fox5flyer <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> wrote:
Marco, the ad gives a nice history of Kitfox, but nothing about the aircraft
that is for sale. Are you sure that it's a 582 C-box? Looks somewhat like
a B-box to me. Also, when did 582s start using oil coolers? Is that an oil
cooler I'm seeing? Could that possibly be a 912 under there?
Just a few things that don't make sense.
Deke
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Marco Menezes
To: Matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:51 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: E-bay Mod 3 or 4
There's what looks like a 75% or so complete model 3 or 4 with 582 (c box)
and grove gear on e-bay now with a "buy-it-now" price of $15K.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | E-bay Mod 3 or 4 |
A close look at the opening in the nose certainly looked like a 9xx to
me.... Something that looked to me like a fuel pump behind and to the right
of the oil cooler. Maybe the guy was just trying to get a sense of value
for the plane... if that is the case he missed he only had one real bid.
If the plane was complete and had 100hr. It could have been interesting to
Canadian flyers.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marco Menezes
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:22 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: E-bay Mod 3 or 4
Well whatever it was, it's moot now. Seller has withdrawn the listing
"because of an error." ? Never did respond to my inquiry. Seemed too good to
be true, and apparently it was.
do not archive
Marin Streeter <alderacres@foxinternet.net> wrote:
Look at the exhaust it comes out the front. I think that it is a 912.
Marin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: E-bay Mod 3 or 4
OK, if it is a 582 and complete, whether a B or C box, it's definitely a
"grab it now" deal for someone. Just enough left to do to be familiar with
the airplane, yet most of the time consuming stuff is done. I think I saw a
set of wings hanging on the wall. Please give us a report on what the
seller says.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."
- Joseph Joubert
From: Marco Menezes <mailto:msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: E-bay Mod 3 or 4
I don't know Deke. Looks like a 582 box up front, be it a B or C. Can't
explain the oil coolerish thing up there. Also, don't see any wings. I'll
ask the seller.
Marco
do not archive.
fox5flyer <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> wrote:
Marco, the ad gives a nice history of Kitfox, but nothing about the aircraft
that is for sale. Are you sure that it's a 582 C-box? Looks somewhat like
a B-box to me. Also, when did 582s start using oil coolers? Is that an oil
cooler I'm seeing? Could that possibly be a 912 under there?
Just a few things that don't make sense.
Deke
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Marco Menezes <mailto:msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:51 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: E-bay Mod 3 or 4
There's what looks like a 75% or so complete model 3 or 4 with 582 (c box)
and grove gear on e-bay now with a "buy-it-now" price of $15K.
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
http://forums.matronics.com
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I had to fix my Series 6 after purchase...the old owner had stripped the right
fuel drain threading in the fiberglass tank.? After many attempts w/various products
I ended up glueing the tank drain-hold shut w/this stuff and then re-drilling/tapping
for the drain.? That was three years ago, it worked great and still
holds strong/fuelproof.? I'd recommend it for any fuel application.? (Get
at Wicks Aircraft Supply)
Mike H.
Series 6/200+ hrs?later
50 GRAM SEALANT KIT-1/2HR POT ( FPS890-2OZ ) - - Repair kit 2-part Pro-Seal fuel
tank sealant PS890B fillet grade sealant packaged in 1.75 oz quantities for
use on small jobs. 1/2 hour pot life @ ...
Our Price: $14.99
-----Original Message-----
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Small leak?
?
I used Permatex Aviation Cement, I think it's called. I got it at an auto parts
store. Also, "3H" sticks in my mind. Maybe the "cement" part is wrong, but definitely
Permatex, and definitely "aviation" in the title. Makes you feel important
when you buy it, too! : )?
?
Lynn Matteson?
Grass Lake, Michigan?
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200?
flying w/470+ hrs?
?
On Feb 7, 2008, at 3:04 PM, RAY Gignac wrote:?
?
> Today I discovered the slight faint smell of fuel coming from my > right fuel
tank hose attachment. I used my flashlight to inspect > and found a green color
around the barbed fitting. It could be > that the hose clamp needs to be tighter,
or I might need to remove > the barbed fitting! If I have to remove the
fitting, what is used > to seal the threads when reinstalled? Oh, this is the
main fuel > attachment fitting.?
>?
> Thanks?
> Ray?
>?
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PERMATEX FORM-A-GASKET NO. 2
Jeff
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162903#162903
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At 12:04 PM 2/7/2008, you wrote:
>If I have to remove the fitting, what is used to seal the threads
>when reinstalled? Oh, this is the main fuel attachment fitting.
After multiple tries, I ended up with the 2 part polysulfide from
ACS. I haven't had any leaks since.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Need advice on TruTrak ADI |
At 01:40 PM 2/7/2008, you wrote:
>Yeah, I have one of those Travis. I was hoping to replace it with
>the ADI. So either way, I need another hole in the panel. It's
>tight, as you can see.
Marco,
Check out ACS. They have balls that mount to the face of the
panel. You could put the ADI where the 2" ball is now, and put a face
mount ball below it. Plenty of room.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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Thanks Mike, I will drain the fuel from my tanks and fold the wing! once f
olded, I will take a better look at my fitting.
Ray, N2BH
Model IV,1200 912ULS
, 7 Feb 2008 19:32:04 -0500From: kerrimikehickman@aol.comI had to fix my Se
ries 6 after purchase...the old owner had stripped the right fuel drain thr
eading in the fiberglass tank. After many attempts w/various products I en
ded up glueing the tank drain-hold shut w/this stuff and then re-drilling/t
apping for the drain. That was three years ago, it worked great and still
holds strong/fuelproof. I'd recommend it for any fuel application. (Get a
t Wicks Aircraft Supply)Mike H.Series 6/200+ hrs later
50 GRAM SEALANT KIT-1/2HR POT ( FPS890-2OZ ) - - Repair kit 2-part Pro-Seal
fuel tank sealant PS890B fillet grade sealant packaged in 1.75 oz quantiti
es for use on small jobs. 1/2 hour pot life @ ...
Our Price: $14.99-----Original Message-----From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jp
s.net>To: kitfox-list@matronics.comSent: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 2:52 pmSubject: Re
: Kitfox-List: Small leak?
Permatex Aviation Cement, I think it's called. I got it at an auto parts s
tore. Also, "3H" sticks in my mind. Maybe the "cement" part is wrong, but d
efinitely Permatex, and definitely "aviation" in the title. Makes you feel
important when you buy it, too! : ) Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kit
fox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/470+ hrs On Feb 7, 2008, at 3:04 P
M, RAY Gignac wrote: > Today I discovered the slight faint smell of fuel c
oming from my > right fuel tank hose attachment. I used my flashlight to in
spect > and found a green color around the barbed fitting. It could be > th
at the hose clamp needs to be tighter, or I might need to remove > the barb
ed fitting! If I have to remove the fitting, what is used > to seal the thr
eads when reinstalled? Oh, this is the main fuel > attachment fitting. > >
Thanks > Ray > > Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant > messag
urce=text_hotmail_join' target='_new'>Learn more._-> ======
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ur "fix".
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Thanks Lynn, I will drain both my tanks then fold the wing and have a bette
r look at the fitting.
Thanks
Ray> From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Small leak?> Date: T
hu, 7 Feb 2008 16:52:59 -0500> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > --> Kitfox-
List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>> > I used Permatex
Aviation Cement, I think it's called. I got it at an > auto parts store. A
lso, "3H" sticks in my mind. Maybe the "cement" > part is wrong, but defini
tely Permatex, and definitely "aviation" in > the title. Makes you feel imp
ortant when you buy it, too! : )> > Lynn Matteson> Grass Lake, Michigan> Ki
tfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200> flying w/470+ hrs> > > On Feb 7, 2008, at
3:04 PM, RAY Gignac wrote:> > > Today I discovered the slight faint smell o
f fuel coming from my > > right fuel tank hose attachment. I used my flashl
ight to inspect > > and found a green color around the barbed fitting. It c
ould be > > that the hose clamp needs to be tighter, or I might need to rem
ove > > the barbed fitting! If I have to remove the fitting, what is used >
> to seal the threads when reinstalled? Oh, this is the main fuel > > atta
chment fitting.> >> > Thanks> > Ray> >> > Helping your favorite cause is as
easy as instant > > messagurce=text_hotmail_join' target='_new'>Learn
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