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1. 06:34 AM - Re: weight (Noel Loveys)
2. 06:44 AM - Re: weight (Noel Loveys)
3. 07:12 AM - Re: Kitfox engine for sale (Napier, Mark)
4. 08:36 AM - Re: * 8th Annual Desert Fox Squadron Fly-In * (Guy Buchanan)
5. 09:41 AM - Re: weight (patrick reilly)
6. 11:16 AM - Re: weight (Lynn Matteson)
7. 11:17 AM - Re: Kitfox engine for sale (Summers, Mark)
8. 01:06 PM - Re: weight (n85ae)
9. 01:07 PM - Re: weight (patrick reilly)
10. 02:42 PM - Re: weight (jeff puls)
11. 03:37 PM - Re: weight (patrick reilly)
12. 04:05 PM - Landing Light (Paul Morel)
13. 04:52 PM - Re: weight (Lynn Matteson)
14. 04:58 PM - Re: weight (Lynn Matteson)
15. 05:02 PM - Re: weight...off topic (Lynn Matteson)
16. 05:06 PM - Re: Landing Light (patrick reilly)
17. 05:15 PM - Re: Re: weight (Lynn Matteson)
18. 05:17 PM - Re: weight (patrick reilly)
19. 05:24 PM - Re: weight...off topic (patrick reilly)
20. 06:26 PM - Re: weight...off topic (Lynn Matteson)
21. 06:56 PM - Re: * 8th Annual Desert Fox Squadron Fly-In * (Steve Shinabery)
22. 07:23 PM - Re: Landing Light (Guy Buchanan)
23. 07:32 PM - Re: Landing Light (RAY Gignac)
24. 08:25 PM - Re: Landing Light (Paul Morel)
25. 10:40 PM - Re: weight...off topic (patrick reilly)
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Don't feel too bad Lynn.
When I was a kid I flew all over Newfoundland with my father in a C170B on
floats. Most of the time we were salmon fishing and the old bird, CF-HIM,
was half decent at getting us in (and out) of some nice ponds, close to the
type of pools that dreams are made of. Of course we took everything we
needed to survive for about fifty years (exaggeration...maybe) The running
joke around the hangar is the normal takeoff weight for our plane was about
a hundred pounds or so overweight. For years I thought it was normal to
have the last compartment of both floats submerged when slow taxiing.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: weight
Do you suppose that John McBean still sells the double-pin door latch
kits? I've got 'em on my Speedster, plus the bottom latch...three
points of contact with the door jambs, and the double-pins are almost
foolproof. I doubt that the door would EVER come open short of
wadding up the fuselage.
Also, I've had a 250-pounder in my plane with full tanks (156 lbs),
and at that point we were about 15 lbs over gross...did I just admit
to a violation of the rules? Damn, somebody must be sneaking in here
again and playing with my computer.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/470+ hrs
do not archive
On Feb 11, 2008, at 7:14 PM, Chenoweth wrote:
>
> Michel,
> Good point - I had a similar experience with a smaller but still
> substantial passenger a few months ago and after the third or
> fourth hard landing his door did pop. As Roger pointed out one
> needs to accommodate the higher sink rate and it took me a few
> tries to get it right.
> Bill
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When I was in the Stinson I was thinking about a bubble door with enough
room to get my elbow into the bubble. J BTW the same plane with a stick
would have had thousands of room. It was just that the yoke takes up so
much room and was close to the door. The guy who owned the plane is around
5'6" and when he flared he had to wrap his arm around the yoke to give
himself enough room to pull it fully back. I'm 5'11" with 39" arms... 30"
legs... should have made a good football player... low CG J.
I was in the right seat and I'm left handed... using the yoke left handed
wasn't a problem except I couldn't handle the yoke and throttle at the same
time. The next plane I flew was a Super Cub... Loved it... Much like the
Kitfox with a growl. It did take a bit of getting used to using the stick
with my right (wrong) hand. By the third landing I had it down pretty well.
One of the amazing things about the Super Cub is the amount of space in the
cockpit. The left seat in a 737 has much less room and is actually harder
to get in and out of.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim_and_Lucy
Chuk
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:05 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: weight
Just kidding of course, but I thought, if it really wan't working out; with
the door open, no stick, you could drop the right wing, unbuckle him quick
while kicking full left rudder, and be back to normal real quick, Jim Chuk
do not archive (or take seriously)
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From: noelloveys@yahoo.ca
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: weight
Just wondering why you say to take the doors off.. I have been in my plane
(Model III-A actual Mod II) with myself at close to 250 and another pilot at
close to 200 lb. We didn't fly because we just couldn't develop enough
horsepower ( faulty tach) to get up on step. The With the fuel on board we
were around 1050 lb. Which I would probably have done some flight in ground
effect. What I'm trying to get at is there was plenty of room with the
doors on and both sticks installed. In fact there was more room than in the
Stinson 108 I tried to fly.... The yoke in that plane was situated in such
a way it would require me to take the door off to give me enough elbow room.
The most room I've seen in any plane including the Boeing 737 was the Super
Cub.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mic thiessen
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: weight
Take the right side stick off and fly with doors open and you
won't have a problem.
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From: chenoweth@gwi.net
Subject: Kitfox-List: weight
I have a friend coming to visit who is an aviation enthusiast and we're
talking about my giving him a ride in my IV-1200. The kicker is that he's
5'10" and admits to weighing 260. This would be the biggest/heaviest
passenger I've carried by at least 50 pounds and wonder if anyone has had a
similar experience. We would definitely not be over-gross but I wonder
about seat integrity and control freedom.
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox engine for sale |
I'm doing an HKS installation and have a complete 582 FWF for sale.
1st $2500 takes it.
582 Model 90
200 hours on new crankshaft.
20 hours on new seals and de-carbon.
C gearbox 3:1
Mag end starter
Muffler.
Heater.
Water Temp gage.
EGT probes.
Regulator.
Fuel pulse pump.
Motor mount.
2 radiators, one oversized.
Oil Tank and mount.
Water Filler and overflow bottle.
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| Subject: | Re: * 8th Annual Desert Fox Squadron Fly-In * |
At 07:37 PM 2/11/2008, you wrote:
>For those of you who are not familiar with a Desert Fox Squadron
>Fly-in, I can tell you to expect a lot of food, fun, and flying.
>There will be free squadron T-shirts, a swearing-at ceremony and
>wings for new members, and an aerial poker run!
Try to attend. This is a GOOD fly-in. (Particularly the flying.)
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
Do not archive
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Lynn, Are there any photo's or drawings of the "double pin" latch?
Do not archive
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
> From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: weight> Date: Mon, 11
Feb 2008 19:37:29 -0500> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > --> Kitfox-List m
essage posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>> > Do you suppose that J
ohn McBean still sells the double-pin door latch > kits? I've got 'em on my
Speedster, plus the bottom latch...three > points of contact with the door
jambs, and the double-pins are almost > foolproof. I doubt that the door w
ould EVER come open short of > wadding up the fuselage.> Also, I've had a 2
50-pounder in my plane with full tanks (156 lbs), > and at that point we we
re about 15 lbs over gross...did I just admit > to a violation of the rules
? Damn, somebody must be sneaking in here > again and playing with my compu
ter.> > Lynn Matteson> Grass Lake, Michigan> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2
200> flying w/470+ hrs> do not archive> > > On Feb 11, 2008, at 7:14 PM, Ch
th@gwi.net>> >> > Michel,> > Good point - I had a similar experience with a
smaller but still > > substantial passenger a few months ago and after the
third or > > fourth hard landing his door did pop. As Roger pointed out on
e > > needs to accommodate the higher sink rate and it took me a few > > tr
===========> > >
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Here are two shots that I have, Pat. The kit that I had required
several parts to be made from stock that was furnished. Instructions
came with the kit as supplied in 1994.
Above: This is the bellcrank that transmits the center, turning
motion into fore-and-aft rods that engage pins into sockets in the
fuselage.
Above: On the left is the fuselage socket (fastened with 4 SS
rivets), with the pin engaged, and on the right is the guide
(fastened with 5 SS rivets)
and the actuating rod. I hope this makes sense. It's hard to get the
overall picture of how it works because I zoomed in a little too
close when I shot it.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/470+ hrs
On Feb 12, 2008, at 12:38 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> Lynn, Are there any photo's or drawings of the "double pin" latch?
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 Rebuild
> Rockford, IL
>
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| Subject: | Kitfox engine for sale |
Where are you located I may be interested, just curious why the change
to HKS. Thanks Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Napier,
Mark
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox engine for sale
<Mark.Napier@sciatl.com>
I'm doing an HKS installation and have a complete 582 FWF for sale.
1st $2500 takes it.
582 Model 90
200 hours on new crankshaft.
20 hours on new seals and de-carbon.
C gearbox 3:1
Mag end starter
Muffler.
Heater.
Water Temp gage.
EGT probes.
Regulator.
Fuel pulse pump.
Motor mount.
2 radiators, one oversized.
Oil Tank and mount.
Water Filler and overflow bottle.
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Not to be a critic, but riveting into the airframe tubing isn't really a good
idea, nor necessary since you already have the tab there.
Jeff
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163735#163735
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Lynn, I can't wait to meet you, maybe at Oshkosh. I can't believe you have
pictures of the door latch system back to me immediately. I have found the
Kitfox "Mother Lode" on this website and sent my contribution to Matt last
week. With the info you "experts" have that is available to us beginners, I
ought to make it a monthly contribution.
Do not archive
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 rebuild
Rockford, IL> From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: weight> Dat
e: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:11:59 -0500> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Here a
re two shots that I have, Pat. The kit that I had required > several parts
to be made from stock that was furnished. Instructions > came with the kit
as supplied in 1994.> >
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Lynn,
That is the best latching system I have ever seen! I wonder why they did
away with it? Jeff CMH Classic IV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: weight
> Here are two shots that I have, Pat. The kit that I had required
> several parts to be made from stock that was furnished. Instructions
> came with the kit as supplied in 1994.
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Above: This is the bellcrank that transmits the center, turning
> motion into fore-and-aft rods that engage pins into sockets in the
> fuselage.
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Above: On the left is the fuselage socket (fastened with 4 SS
> rivets), with the pin engaged, and on the right is the guide
> (fastened with 5 SS rivets)
> and the actuating rod. I hope this makes sense. It's hard to get the
> overall picture of how it works because I zoomed in a little too
> close when I shot it.
>
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/470+ hrs
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2008, at 12:38 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
>
>> Lynn, Are there any photo's or drawings of the "double pin" latch?
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 Rebuild
>> Rockford, IL
>>
>
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Lynn, I was looking at these pics again. What type of spring mechanism does
the latch have? I can't see it.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 Rebuild
Rockford, IL> From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: weight> Dat
e: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:11:59 -0500> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Here a
re two shots that I have, Pat. The kit that I had required > several parts
to be made from stock that was furnished. Instructions > came with the kit
as supplied in 1994.> >
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Has anyone been successful in mounting landing lights in the wingtips?
If so, can you give me some information on this or any recommendations.
If not in the wingtips, then where would a practical place be? Any
light weight lights?
Paul Morel
912 Speedster (in progress)
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There is no spring mechanism. When you turn the handle, either inside
or outside, the two rods are either moved outward or inward, and
obviously make the pins either enter or exit the sockets in the
fuselage. When in the engaged position, there is a "ball detent" that
retains the rods/pins in that position. I think that the friction of
the pins in their sockets helps too.
I think I recall hearing that some of the Kitfox doors did not have
the parallel tubes about mid-height that is required for the
attachment of the control mechanism. Maybe someone with a different
model than my IV can shed some light on this. I just looked for the
instructions that came with my kit, but they must be at the hangar.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/470+ hrs
On Feb 12, 2008, at 6:31 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> Lynn, I was looking at these pics again. What type of spring
> mechanism does the latch have? I can't see it.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 Rebuild
> Rockford, IL
>
> > From: lynnmatt@jps.net
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: weight
> > Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:11:59 -0500
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >
> > Here are two shots that I have, Pat. The kit that I had required
> > several parts to be made from stock that was furnished. Instructions
> > came with the kit as supplied in 1994.
> >
> >
>
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I'm pretty sure that it was an accessory, and maybe for most
applications the latch at the bottom of the door was sufficient. It
seems like this double-pin thing was for the Speedster, but I can't
remember without seeing the instructions. I also recall reading that
the Speedster fuselage came with the mounting tabs already welded in
place...mine did. I may not have the history correct as to whether or
not which model had what, so maybe someone closer to the factory or
to the whole history can shed some light.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/470+ hrs
On Feb 12, 2008, at 5:39 PM, jeff puls wrote:
> <pulsair@mindspring.com>
>
> Lynn,
> That is the best latching system I have ever seen! I wonder why
> they did away with it? Jeff CMH Classic IV
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: weight
>
>
>> Here are two shots that I have, Pat. The kit that I had required
>> several parts to be made from stock that was furnished. Instructions
>> came with the kit as supplied in 1994.
>>
>>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
>
>
>>
>> Above: This is the bellcrank that transmits the center, turning
>> motion into fore-and-aft rods that engage pins into sockets in the
>> fuselage.
>>
>>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
>
>
>>
>> Above: On the left is the fuselage socket (fastened with 4 SS
>> rivets), with the pin engaged, and on the right is the guide
>> (fastened with 5 SS rivets)
>> and the actuating rod. I hope this makes sense. It's hard to get the
>> overall picture of how it works because I zoomed in a little too
>> close when I shot it.
>>
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Grass Lake, Michigan
>> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
>> flying w/470+ hrs
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 12, 2008, at 12:38 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
>>
>>> Lynn, Are there any photo's or drawings of the "double pin" latch?
>>>
>>> Pat Reilly
>>> Mod 3 Rebuild
>>> Rockford, IL
>>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: weight...off topic |
Hey Pat, I just realized by your address that you're right in the
area that has had over, what, 50" over average snowfall for this
year? Better get that rebuild job done so you can build some skis for
it and enjoy that snow. : )
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/470+ hrs
do not archive
On Feb 12, 2008, at 4:04 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> Lynn, I can't wait to meet you, maybe at Oshkosh. I can't believe
> you have pictures of the door latch system back to me immediately.
> I have found the Kitfox "Mother Lode" on this website and sent my
> contribution to Matt last week. With the info you "experts" have
> that is available to us beginners, I ought to make it a monthly
> contribution.
> Do not archive
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 rebuild
> Rockford, IL
>
> > From: lynnmatt@jps.net
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: weight
> > Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:11:59 -0500
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >
> > Here are two shots that I have, Pat. The kit that I had required
> > several parts to be made from stock that was furnished. Instructions
> > came with the kit as supplied in 1994.
> >
> >
>
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Paul, I believe Don at shericom@rogers.com has a Mod 4 project for sale. Th
e pictures he has of the project show landing lights in the wing tip.
Do not archive
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
From: pmorel@bellsouth.netTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: Kitfox-List
: Landing LightDate: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:00:19 -0500
Has anyone been successful in mounting landing lights in the wingtips? If
so, can you give me some information on this or any recommendations. If no
t in the wingtips, then where would a practical place be? Any light weight
lights?
Paul Morel
912 Speedster (in progress)
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Yes, the tab was there, but the supplied socket-mounting tab already
had the holes drilled in it and that's where they lined up, requiring
drilling into the airframe tubing...not my idea, just following
directions. No amount of my re-positioning it would change this.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/470+ hrs
do not archive
On Feb 12, 2008, at 4:01 PM, n85ae wrote:
>
> Not to be a critic, but riveting into the airframe tubing isn't
> really a good
> idea, nor necessary since you already have the tab there.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163735#163735
>
>
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Lynn, OK got it, ball detents on the pins. My doors have only 1 mid door ro
d. I could fabricate something myself if I have to but I just redid my door
s to fit the wide body cabin modification. I wish I would have seen your
latch pictures sooner. Oh well, such is life.
Do not archive
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 Rebuild
Rockford, IL > From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: weight> Da
te: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:49:15 -0500> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > --> K
itfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>> > There is
no spring mechanism. When you turn the handle, either inside > or outside,
the two rods are either moved outward or inward, and > obviously make the p
ins either enter or exit the sockets in the > fuselage. When in the engaged
position, there is a "ball detent" that > retains the rods/pins in that po
sition. I think that the friction of > the pins in their sockets helps too.
> I think I recall hearing that some of the Kitfox doors did not have > the
parallel tubes about mid-height that is required for the > attachment of t
he control mechanism. Maybe someone with a different > model than my IV can
shed some light on this. I just looked for the > instructions that came wi
th my kit, but they must be at the hangar.> > > Lynn Matteson> Grass Lake,
Michigan> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200> flying w/470+ hrs> > > On Feb
12, 2008, at 6:31 PM, patrick reilly wrote:> > > Lynn, I was looking at the
se pics again. What type of spring > > mechanism does the latch have? I can
't see it.> >> > Pat Reilly> > Mod 3 Rebuild> > Rockford, IL> >> > > From:
lynnmatt@jps.net> > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: weight> > > Date: Tue, 12 F
eb 2008 14:11:59 -0500> > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > >> > > Here ar
e two shots that I have, Pat. The kit that I had required> > > several part
s to be made from stock that was furnished. Instructions> > > came with the
kit as supplied in 1994.> > >> > >> >> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigato
r?Kitfox-List_- > > ==================
================= _- > > forums.matronics
.com_- > > =====================
============== _- > > contribution_- > > ==
==========> > >
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Lynn, Skis will be built this summer for next year. I have pictures of a se
t from this website. I climbed in the rear seat of a super cub on skis 2 mo
nths ago for a ride to Broadhead WI at 50 to 300 feet AGL along the Sugar R
iver. Awesome! Skis are in the plan. What skis do you have?
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Pa Reilly
Mod 3 Rebuild
Rockford, IL > From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: weight...o
ff topic> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:59:49 -0500> To: kitfox-list@matronics.
> Hey Pat, I just realized by your address that you're right in the > area
that has had over, what, 50" over average snowfall for this > year? Better
get that rebuild job done so you can build some skis for > it and enjoy th
at snow. : )> > Lynn Matteson> Grass Lake, Michigan> Kitfox IV Speedster w/
Jabiru 2200> flying w/470+ hrs> do not archive> > > On Feb 12, 2008, at 4:0
4 PM, patrick reilly wrote:> > > Lynn, I can't wait to meet you, maybe at O
shkosh. I can't believe > > you have pictures of the door latch system back
to me immediately. > > I have found the Kitfox "Mother Lode" on this websi
te and sent my > > contribution to Matt last week. With the info you "exper
ts" have > > that is available to us beginners, I ought to make it a monthl
y > > contribution.> > Do not archive> >> > Pat Reilly> > Mod 3 rebuild> >
Rockford, IL> >> > > From: lynnmatt@jps.net> > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:
weight> > > Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:11:59 -0500> > > To: kitfox-list@matr
onics.com> > >> > > Here are two shots that I have, Pat. The kit that I had
required> > > several parts to be made from stock that was furnished. Inst
ructions> > > came with the kit as supplied in 1994.> > >> > >> >> > http:/
/www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List_- > > =========
= _- > > forums.matronics.com_- > > ============
======================= _- >
> contribution_- > > ==================
===================> > >
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I built a set after looking at pictures and drawings of other folks'
skis. Michel over in Norway sent pics of his, and John Perry, and
Dave in Canada helped as well. I just borrowed the best of all the
ideas and went with that. I think that the pics John sent me were of
skis built for an Avid. Here's mine:
Above: Here's the skis as built
This is just after adding a brace to the tip. I had an encounter with
a frozen snowbank that dictated adding this brace. The "encounter"
bent the skis up just in front of the original diagonal braces, and
actually made the skis slope up more, and I liked that, so I added
this new brace to insure that the shape didn't change when the next
encounter occurs....and it probably will. : ) Of course I cleaned up
the overspray after the painting was done, and re-riveted the shoe to
the ski.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/470+ hrs
On Feb 12, 2008, at 8:21 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> Lynn, Skis will be built this summer for next year. I have pictures
> of a set from this website. I climbed in the rear seat of a super
> cub on skis 2 months ago for a ride to Broadhead WI at 50 to 300
> feet AGL along the Sugar River. Awesome! Skis are in the plan. What
> skis do you have?
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| Subject: | Re: * 8th Annual Desert Fox Squadron Fly-In * |
Guy Buchanan wrote:
>
> At 07:37 PM 2/11/2008, you wrote:
>> For those of you who are not familiar with a Desert Fox Squadron
>> Fly-in, I can tell you to expect a lot of food, fun, and flying.
>> There will be free squadron T-shirts, a swearing-at ceremony and
>> wings for new members, and an aerial poker run!
>
> Try to attend. This is a GOOD fly-in. (Particularly the flying.)
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
> Do not archive
>
>
All so..I am again planning a Fly In may be in 2ed Sunday in May for
Kitfoxs and light sport.at Lake Field Airport CQA in Celina Ohio.west
central Ohio.south west corner of Grand Lake St.Marys..if any you may be
interested.any airplane will be welcome.it will be a chilly and hot dog
or hamberger fly in.I will buy any KF pilot lunch. go on line and check
out our web site Lake Field Airport,Celina Ohio..depends on the
weather.. nad if every thing goes good for then..Thanks Steve Shinabery
N554KF KF2
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Light |
At 04:00 PM 2/12/2008, you wrote:
>Has anyone been successful in mounting landing lights in the
>wingtips? If so, can you give me some information on this or any
>recommendations. If not in the wingtips, then where would a
>practical place be? Any light weight lights?
I don't want to send you on a wild goose chase, but this
subject has been exhaustively discussed on the Lancair
(www.lancair.net/maillist.html) and RV (www.vansairforce.net) forums,
as they both use every possible permutation of landing light and
position lights. You'll find much more and more current information
there. As the tips for all three aircraft are glass, and are about
the same shapes you should find good information.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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I have a Model IV 1200, and on my plane, the landing lights and I have two
are mounted at the end of the wingtip, the actual wingtip fits over the lig
ht. The light is mounted to a bracket that is mounted to the spar. Your w
ingtip will have a plastic lense.
Ray
From: patreilly43@hotmail.comTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Kitf
ox-List: Landing LightDate: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:03:34 +0000
Paul, I believe Don at shericom@rogers.com has a Mod 4 project for sale. Th
e pictures he has of the project show landing lights in the wing tip.Do not
archive Pat ReillyMod 3 RebuildRockford,IL
From: pmorel@bellsouth.netTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: Kitfox-List
: Landing LightDate: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:00:19 -0500
Has anyone been successful in mounting landing lights in the wingtips? If
so, can you give me some information on this or any recommendations. If no
t in the wingtips, then where would a practical place be? Any light weight
lights?
Paul Morel
912 Speedster (in progress)
arget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
p://forums.matronics.com
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Ray
Thanks, this sounds like something I'm looking for. Can you provide a
picture or two?
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: RAY Gignac
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:28 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Landing Light
I have a Model IV 1200, and on my plane, the landing lights and I have
two are mounted at the end of the wingtip, the actual wingtip fits over
the light. The light is mounted to a bracket that is mounted to the
spar. Your wingtip will have a plastic lense.
Ray
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From: patreilly43@hotmail.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Landing Light
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:03:34 +0000
Paul, I believe Don at shericom@rogers.com has a Mod 4 project for
sale. The pictures he has of the project show landing lights in the wing
tip.
Do not archive
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
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From: pmorel@bellsouth.net
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Landing Light
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:00:19 -0500
Has anyone been successful in mounting landing lights in the
wingtips? If so, can you give me some information on this or any
recommendations. If not in the wingtips, then where would a practical
place be? Any light weight lights?
Paul Morel
912 Speedster (in progress)
arget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
p://forums.matronics.com
blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
arget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
p://forums.matronics.com
blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Lynn, Thanks for the pics. Look similar to the ones I have pics of.
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Pat Reilly> From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: weight...off
topic> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:19:45 -0500> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > I built a set after looking at pictures and drawings of other folks' >
skis. Michel over in Norway sent pics of his, and John Perry, and > Dave in
Canada helped as well. I just borrowed the best of all the > ideas and wen
t with that. I think that the pics John sent me were of > skis built for an
Avid. Here's mine:
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