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1. 12:09 AM - Re: Re: Door Latch Pictures (Guy Buchanan)
2. 03:13 AM - Re: Re: Door Latch Pictures (jeff puls)
3. 05:20 AM - Fw: NSI EA-81 Timing problem (fox5flyer)
4. 05:23 AM - Re: Cross-Wind T (Catz631@aol.com)
5. 05:44 AM - Re: Cross-Wind T & G (Noel Loveys)
6. 05:51 AM - Painting (rufas)
7. 07:02 AM - Re: Cross-Wind T & G (Michel Verheughe)
8. 07:12 AM - Re: Cross-Wind T & G (Tom Jones)
9. 07:18 AM - Re: Painting (Tom Jones)
10. 09:28 AM - Re: Re: Cross-Wind T & G (Marco Menezes)
11. 12:39 PM - Re: Cross-Wind T & G (Marco Menezes)
12. 03:26 PM - mode 4-1200 left strut for sale (Peter Newgard)
13. 04:25 PM - Re: Re: Cross-Wind T & G (Noel Loveys)
14. 04:31 PM - Great Lakes Area Kitfox Fly In (steve shinabery)
15. 07:19 PM - Re: Re: Cross-Wind T & G (Rexinator)
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| Subject: | Re: Door Latch Pictures |
At 10:58 AM 3/3/2008, you wrote:
>Gary,
>If you ever make these for purchase I will take a set. Jeff Classic IV CMH
Oh my. I can't even imagine what they would cost. It took
forever! I could tool it and make 1000 to get the price down, but I
don't think the market's that big. Oh well.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Door Latch Pictures |
Thanks Guy. Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Buchanan" <bnn@nethere.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Kitfox-List: Door Latch Pictures
>
> At 10:58 AM 3/3/2008, you wrote:
>>Gary,
>>If you ever make these for purchase I will take a set. Jeff Classic IV CMH
>
> Oh my. I can't even imagine what they would cost. It took forever!
> I could tool it and make 1000 to get the price down, but I don't think the
> market's that big. Oh well.
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
> Do not archive
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>
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| Subject: | Fw: NSI EA-81 Timing problem |
MessageJeff, I did a little digging this morning and I found a bit of
info regarding install of the trigger wheel. If this doesn't make
sense, let me know.
Deke
" > Hi all, This is how to install the flywheel and trigger wheel.
>
> 1. Put number one cylinder to TDC. The crankpully should be
at
> 0'tdc.
> 2. Put the flywheel notch at the top. 12 o'clock
> 3. Put the trigger wheel notch at 9 o'clock
> 4. The missing tooth should be at the 6:30 to 7 O'clock position.
>
> That's it. I am posting a picture of this also.
----- Original Message -----
From: fox5flyer
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:57 PM
Subject: NSI EA-81 Timing problem
I'm not aware of any NSI EA-81 engines with a distributor. They have
electronic dual ignition modules by Electromotive. I believe what Jeff
is referring to is the trigger wheel that is attached to the flywheel.
I'll go out this evening to check my books and see if I can find the
proper positioning of the trigger wheel.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI EA-81 Timing problem
The flywheel will only mount to the crankshaft in one way. The timing
marks should be indented on the flywheel itself. Maybe I am not
understanding your problem. Did you remove something? Was it the
flywheel or a distributor? If it is the distributor, then move number
one piston to TDC, rotate the distributor rotor so that it will point to
the number one pole plug wire on the distributor and then insert the
distributor into the drive hole making sure the rotor does not turn. Let
me know if that is it.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Smathers
Sent: 2008-03-02 17:15
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI EA-81 Timing problem
Hi all,
I haven't posted in many moons but here is my problem..
I've 'lost' my flywheel and TDC orientation to the electronic timing
gear thats mounted on the flywheel.
Could one of you fellow NSI engine owners for the EA-81 engine
please tell me in what orientation
the 'home notch' (where 3 teeth are missing) goes in relation to the
flywheel when it's TDC on the # 1 cylinder?
I have tried 2 different positions out of four possible ( I'm not
going to Vegas this year.) and it is sputtering and
backfiring like its timing problems.
Photos would be nice but if you can give an O'Clock orientation as
seen from the front that would be good also.
Thanks again, Jeff Smathers KF5 Molalla, OR
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| Subject: | Re: Cross-Wind T |
Michael,
That was indeed a workout. I agree with the other members that he should
not have attempted it. As a retired captain for a major US carrier and retired
Naval aviator, I too have had my workouts in strong crosswinds although not of
this magnitude which I personally would not attempt (although in Cancun one
night it was almost that bad)
I always used the crab and at the last moment the rudder to align the
aircraft. You have to get the upwind wing down or you will be wandering all over
the runway. Now Boeing wants you to land flat in a crab (like an Ercoupe)as one
of the other members mentioned so as not to hit an engine nacelle,wingtip,etc
AND a swept wing does act differently. However, the top rudder method worked
well for me and I found I could gauge the wind better. I have had times where I
had absolute full aileron deflection and thank god for taildragger training
and the rudder!
The captain on that carrier did a nice save and it is really easy to
"Monday morning quarterback" when you are not there. I know he used all his
skills.(and wishes he didn't need to)
Regards,
Dick Maddux
Fox4-1200
Pensacola,Fl
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| Subject: | Cross-Wind T & G |
I wonder if they can actually use all the tires again after a landing like
that?? 155 mph I thought it was only 50... @150 he should have landed
across the runway. ( just joking)
Sigtaturea
Noel Loveys
Campbellton, NL, Canada
CDN AME intern, PP-Rec
C-FINB, Kitfox III-A
582 B box, Ivo IFA, Aerocet 1100 floats
noelloveys@yahoo.ca
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KITFOXZ@aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Cross-Wind T & G
Yes! Those are some beautiful, seemingly, unmanageable cross-wind landings!
I can almost hear Kurt singing praises to the virtues of the great 777. In
some of those clips, it almost seems like the main gear extends down ahead
of the rest of the fuselage to meet mother earth and grab hold of terra
firma. Like a giant eagle clawing for her perch. One clip looks like the
nose pivots 20 degrees before planting the nose gear parallel to the center
line. Awsome!
John Z. Columbus Ohio
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In a message dated 3/3/2008 4:35:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
hefferans@gmail.com writes:
www.metacafe.com/watch/39256/*crosswind*s/
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Trying to come up with a color combo on a series 7. Is there any place on the
web to mix and match colors on a Kitfox ? I saw a 7 on here a couple months ago
that was to be painted like a L-3, I think it was done on a computer. Thanks
in advance.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167611#167611
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| Subject: | Cross-Wind T & G |
Thanks Dick and everyone else; I know now that you don't land an airliner other
than by crabbing. I'll remember that for the day we are told that the crew is
sick and they need a pilot to land the bird! :-)
> From: Noel Loveys [noelloveys@yahoo.ca]
> I wonder if they can actually use all the tires again after a landing like
> that??
I was wondering ... from what I can see, I am not sure the wheels went on the ground
at all. What's you opinion, guys?
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: Cross-Wind T & G |
Quote:
From: Noel Loveys [noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca]
I wonder if they can actually use all the tires again after a landing like
that??
I was wondering ... from what I can see, I am not sure the wheels went on the ground
at all. What's you opinion, guys?
The tires may okay but they will probably never get all those seats clean again.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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Painting templates are on the Kitfox factory web site. Here's the direct link. http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/Paint%20Templates.htm
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Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Cross-Wind T & G |
I remember being a passenger a few years ago on I think it was a 757, landing at
MIA in what must have been a hellacious x-wind. I was seated on the left side,
looking out the window at the numbers on the runway just prior to touchdown.
I don't think anyone else even noticed. I did thank the pilot as I de-planed.
Those guys are good.
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Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net> wrote:
Quote:
From: Noel Loveys [noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca]
I wonder if they can actually use all the tires again after a landing like
that??
I was wondering ... from what I can see, I am not sure the wheels went on the ground
at all. What's you opinion, guys?
The tires may okay but they will probably never get all those seats clean again.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Cross-Wind T & G |
Then again, some x-wind approaches are better executed than others, aren't they?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueJeC2pxxbM
Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
Thanks Dick and everyone else; I know now that you don't land an airliner other
than by crabbing. I'll remember that for the day we are told that the crew
is sick and they need a pilot to land the bird! :-)
> From: Noel Loveys [noelloveys@yahoo.ca]
> I wonder if they can actually use all the tires again after a landing like
> that??
I was wondering ... from what I can see, I am not sure the wheels went on the ground
at all. What's you opinion, guys?
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | mode 4-1200 left strut for sale |
New left wing strut for model 4-1200--$350 ( about 50% of new price
in 1995). located in Rainier, Wa.
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| Subject: | Re: Cross-Wind T & G |
In Dec 1975 I was in a DC-8 that landed at gander Intl. Airport. The
runways were extremely icy and the reverse thrusters didn't seem to work at
all. I was in a right hand seat overlooking the wing..... Watching the
runway disappear in front of me as the plane slid down the runway sideways
at what seemed to be the speed of light. It was runway 31 and I could see
the lights of the town getting closer at an alarming rate!
Somehow or the other the plane ended up going down the runway backwards..
At least we didn't have to see what was happening! If you die that way
you'll never get into heaven...St. Peter would never believe it! Any way
the pilots got the darn thing stopped without leaving the runway for a tour
of the town. We taxied back to the terminal where we slid the last twenty
feet or so before the engines were shut down.... Bad move... The DC - 8
didn't have an APU and ground power wasn't available for close to an hour
while the crews outside were fighting ice to allow the power wagons to get
close enough to the plane to hook up. There we sat in the dark quiet cold
for close to an hour before they would get the power on for heat and light
.... Then we got to wait another fifteen minutes while the walkway to the
terminal ( no jetways... Still don't have 'em) was being de-iced. There
must have been some minor power in the plane because the pilot used the
intercom to make the announcements about the cold and dark and to apologize
for shutting down the last engine before ground power was hooked up.
Sigtaturea
Noel Loveys
Campbellton, NL, Canada
CDN AME intern, PP-Rec
C-FINB, Kitfox III-A
582 B box, Ivo IFA, Aerocet 1100 floats
noelloveys@yahoo.ca
noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marco Menezes
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Cross-Wind T & G
I remember being a passenger a few years ago on I think it was a 757,
landing at MIA in what must have been a hellacious x-wind. I was seated on
the left side, looking out the window at the numbers on the runway just
prior to touchdown. I don't think anyone else even noticed. I did thank the
pilot as I de-planed. Those guys are good.
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Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net> wrote:
Quote:
From: Noel Loveys [noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca]
I wonder if they can actually use all the tires again after a landing like
that??
I was wondering ... from what I can see, I am not sure the wheels went on
the ground at all. What's you opinion, guys?
The tires may okay but they will probably never get all
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| Subject: | Great Lakes Area Kitfox Fly In |
It is cold here in Ohio.there is 3 inches of ice on the ground.and rain
and snow.BUT soon in May it will be time for the 2008 Great Lakes Area
Kitfox Fly In..,,May 11th 2008.at Lake Field Airport [CQA]Celina Ohio.at
12:00 noon lunch will be served of BBQ on the grill.FREE to all Kitfox
pilots flying in there Kitfox's,,and after lunch we are having a BOMB
Drop+SPOT Landing contests.our airport is located on the south west
corner of Grand Lake St.Marys.west central Ohio.just look for the
largest lake in Ohio.you can not miss it..this should be a FUN day with
your kitfox family..If you do not have a KF.fly in what ever you have
all are invited.bring tie downs....Lake Field Airport is home base to
Steve Shinabery and N554KF KF2 hope to see you all there
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| Subject: | Re: Cross-Wind T & G |
I'd love to have heard the CVR playback from that landing! :-)
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--
Rex Hefferan
SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs
Noel Loveys wrote:
> In Dec 1975 I was in a DC-8 that landed at gander Intl. Airport. The
> runways were extremely icy and the reverse thrusters didnt seem to
> work at all. I was in a right hand seat overlooking the wing.....
> Watching the runway disappear in front of me as the plane slid down
> the runway sideways at what seemed to be the speed of light. It was
> runway 31 and I could see the lights of the town getting closer at an
> alarming rate!
>
> Somehow or the other the plane ended up going down the runway
> backwards.. At least we didnt have to see what was happening! If you
> die that way youll never get into heaven...St. Peter would never
> believe it! Any way the pilots got the darn thing stopped without
> leaving the runway for a tour of the town. We taxied back to the
> terminal where we slid the last twenty feet or so before the engines
> were shut down.... Bad move... The DC 8 didnt have an APU and
> ground power wasnt available for close to an hour while the crews
> outside were fighting ice to allow the power wagons to get close
> enough to the plane to hook up. There we sat in the dark quiet cold
> for close to an hour before they would get the power on for heat and
> light ... Then we got to wait another fifteen minutes while the
> walkway to the terminal ( no jetways... Still dont have em) was
> being de-iced. There must have been some minor power in the plane
> because the pilot used the intercom to make the announcements about
> the cold and dark and to apologize for shutting down the last engine
> before ground power was hooked up.
>
>
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