Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Sat 03/08/08


Total Messages Posted: 23



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:43 AM - Re: Re: Trailering my Kitfox (steve shinabery)
     2. 05:55 AM - Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. (RRTRACK@aol.com)
     3. 06:28 AM - Re: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. (Tom Jones)
     4. 06:30 AM - Re: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. (fox5flyer)
     5. 06:31 AM -  AW: Re: Trailering my Kitfox (Johannes Czernin)
     6. 06:51 AM - Re: Re: Trailering my Kitfox (fox5flyer)
     7. 07:06 AM - Re: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. ()
     8. 07:45 AM - Re: Trailering my Kitfox (Earnest & Bonnie Jacques)
     9. 10:00 AM - Jabiru Engines (jdmcbean)
    10. 10:09 AM - Re: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. (jdmcbean)
    11. 10:36 AM - Kitfox Pilots Guide (Trey Moran)
    12. 10:41 AM - trailer (kaufjm@aol.com)
    13. 10:45 AM - Trailering (Chuck Popenoe)
    14. 11:58 AM - Re: Jabiru Engines (Tom Jones)
    15. 12:03 PM - Re: Trailering (RAY Gignac)
    16. 12:20 PM - Re: Trailering my Kitfox (Tom Jones)
    17. 12:51 PM - Re: Jabiru Engines (tc9008@aol.com)
    18. 01:16 PM - Re: Jabiru Engines (Michel Verheughe)
    19. 02:01 PM - Re: Re: Jabiru Engines (jdmcbean)
    20. 02:01 PM - Re: Jabiru Engines (jdmcbean)
    21. 03:38 PM - Re: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. (patrick reilly)
    22. 03:59 PM - Re: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. (jdmcbean)
    23. 05:31 PM - Re: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. (Marwynne)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:43:30 AM PST US
    From: steve shinabery <shinco@bright.net>
    Subject: Re: Trailering my Kitfox
    Noel Loveys wrote: > > A double ski-Doo trailer works well too. Just extend the tow arm. > > > > Noel > > > > *From:* owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of > *Jim_and_Lucy Chuk > *Sent:* Friday, March 07, 2008 11:50 PM > *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Trailering my Kitfox > > > > Just my opinion, but I would try to find a boat trailer and remodel it > rather than the one you are looking at. I'll try to post a couple of > pictures of the trailer I got when I bought my Avid B. I hauled it > home (about 300 miles) and last winter when I bought my Avid MK IV, I > went out to Michigan and hauled it back home (about 550 miles) on the > same trailer. Worked for me. Jim Chuk Avid B, MK IV Chisholm, Mn > > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Trailering my Kitfox > > From: wingnut@spamarrest.com > > Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:16:09 -0800 > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > > > > Thanks to all for the helpful responses. I see that the over all > length would need to be increased. > > > > As for the width, I don't have a problem with adding supports to > capture the main wheels but would the axle really need to be > lengthened? Is it a question of the trailer being prone to rolling > over? What's a good length for the axles? > > > > As for the load capacity, I thought 1000 pounds would be just right? > The airplane only weighs 650 lbs empty and I thought that matching the > trailer capacity to the airplane weight would provide the smoothest > ride... > > > > Also, I guess I should mention that this would be for short hauls to > get the airplane to and from the local airport on those occasions when > the winds are not favorable for landing at the short strip at my farm. > > > > > > > I have one of those trailers I use to tow my ATV on. Its way > too small for the Kitfox. It could be modified to haul the Kitfox, > but the deck frame is only 4 wide by 8 long, and maximum load is > 1000 pounds. It would take a lot of modification to widen the deck > frame, lengthen the axle to accommodate the widened deck frame, > lengthen the trailer reach, etc. to tow the Kitfox on it. > > > > > > > > > -------- > > Luis Rodriguez > > Model IV 1200 > > Rotax 912UL > > Flying Weekly > > Laurens, SC (34A) > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168253#168253 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! Learn more. > <http://biggestloser.msn.com/> > > * > > > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Checked by AVG. > Hi Kitfox Family..I took every one advice and ,Just finishing my trailer.I took a boat trailer and converted it to carry all most any tail dragger.on back wards..and all so.I can carry trike wheel aircraft on front wards,,it can even carry all most any CESSNA single engine,,the trailer is app 30ft.and the toung can come apart to fit in a single car garage.all so the rear platform where the front tires sit.can be made wider to fit all most any TW plane,by just pulling pins.and the darn thing will fit in your 8X24ft garage.this is a protype trailer.I thinking about mass producing these at a trailer company.to sell on the market..the trailer even has wing racks to carry wings..what does evey one think about it??any body interested in one??I will have it on display at the Great Lakes Kitfox Fly In..May 11th at CQA Lake Field Air Port ,Celina Ohio.if any one wants to take a better look..Steve Shinabery N554KF KF2


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    Time: 05:55:50 AM PST US
    From: RRTRACK@aol.com
    Subject: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet.
    I am looking to buy or just read someone's "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. They are not available through the new Kitfox. If anyone has one available or knows where I can get a copy please let me know. Mark Kitfox 5 Hartford, Wisconsin **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)


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    Time: 06:28:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet.
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    RRTRACK(at)aol.com wrote: > I am looking to buy or just read someone's "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. They are not available through the new Kitfox. If anyone has one available or knows where I can get a copy please let me know. > Mark > Kitfox 5 > Hartford, Wisconsin > ] Mark, Did you ask Kitfox aircraft LLC if the later version "Kitfox Pilot's Guide" is available" It is very worth having if you fly or own a Kitfox of any kind. [/code] -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168401#168401


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    Time: 06:30:19 AM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Re: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet.
    I just saw one on ebay. Don't know if it's still there. Search Kitfox Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: RRTRACK@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 8:53 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. I am looking to buy or just read someone's "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. They are not available through the new Kitfox. If anyone has one available or knows where I can get a copy please let me know. Mark Kitfox 5 Hartford, Wisconsin ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance.


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    Time: 06:31:30 AM PST US
    From: "Johannes Czernin" <jcz@chello.at>
    Subject: Re: Trailering my Kitfox
    Hi, Out of pure curiosity I checked the link you posted and I found out a lot of items have mysteriously disappeared from the Sportflight site since I last visited it (quite a long time ago to be true!) In the "Trailer" section a picture is listed with my name but clicking on the link results inan error message. The image I had downloaded, more than 10 years ago, is gone. As this was the drawing of the original trailer the factory had been using since the time Dan Denney was the owner I'm sure many of the actual list members would like to have a look at it. Fortunately enough I still have the original drawing stored here, plus a copy of my commentaries I had included for the original posting. Anybody using this drawing should be aware that it stems from the pre-SkyStar era, and thus some of the dimensions contained in them may still relate to some superseded model versions and thus be out of date. Therefore, all critical dimensions should be carefully checked against those of the actual airplane before cutting any metal Enjoy! Regards, Johannes -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Tom Jones Gesendet: Samstag, 08. M=E4rz 2008 00:47 An: kitfox-list@matronics.com Betreff: Kitfox-List: Re: Trailering my Kitfox Wing Nut asked > Anyone happen to know where I can get plans for a suitable trailer? Luis, here's a direct link to all kinds of kitfox trailer information on the Sportflight.com web site. http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=main&category=T railers /Towing -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168321#168321 List 7-Day


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    Time: 06:51:12 AM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Re: Trailering my Kitfox
    Thanks Johannes! Good post. Deke do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johannes Czernin" <jcz@chello.at> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 9:28 AM Subject: AW: Kitfox-List: Re: Trailering my Kitfox Hi, Out of pure curiosity I checked the link you posted and I found out a lot of items have mysteriously disappeared from the Sportflight site since I last visited it (quite a long time ago to be true!) In the "Trailer" section a picture is listed with my name but clicking on the link results inan error message. The image I had downloaded, more than 10 years ago, is gone. As this was the drawing of the original trailer the factory had been using since the time Dan Denney was the owner I'm sure many of the actual list members would like to have a look at it. Fortunately enough I still have the original drawing stored here, plus a copy of my commentaries I had included for the original posting. Anybody using this drawing should be aware that it stems from the pre-SkyStar era, and thus some of the dimensions contained in them may still relate to some superseded model versions and thus be out of date. Therefore, all critical dimensions should be carefully checked against those of the actual airplane before cutting any metal Enjoy! Regards, Johannes -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Tom Jones Gesendet: Samstag, 08. Mrz 2008 00:47 An: kitfox-list@matronics.com Betreff: Kitfox-List: Re: Trailering my Kitfox Wing Nut asked > Anyone happen to know where I can get plans for a suitable trailer? Luis, here's a direct link to all kinds of kitfox trailer information on the Sportflight.com web site. http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=main&category=Trailers /Towing -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168321#168321 List 7-Day


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    Time: 07:06:23 AM PST US
    From: <l.morris@tx.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet.
    Mark, seems to me I may have a copy somewhere in my back closet. I'll look and if I do I'll contact you off list. DO NOT ARCHIVE Leon Morris/Classic 4/ 60%/ Flower Mound, TX ---- RRTRACK@aol.com wrote: > I am looking to buy or just read someone's "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. > They are not available through the new Kitfox. If anyone has one available or > knows where I can get a copy please let me know. > > Mark > Kitfox 5 > Hartford, Wisconsin > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)


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    Time: 07:45:25 AM PST US
    From: "Earnest & Bonnie Jacques" <earnestj@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Trailering my Kitfox
    Hi Everyone, I am new to this list, but have been reading it for a few days and it has had many helpful hints and information. I am going to pick up my (new to me) Kitfox V vixen on Friday and will need to haul it about 700 miles. I was wondering if someone would be so kind as to email me a picture or drawing of how the wings/tail ties down. The plane does not have those items with it and the current owner has never done it. Any information would be helpful Thanks Ted McCall, Idaho


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    Time: 10:00:29 AM PST US
    From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
    Subject: Jabiru Engines
    Just wanted to let every know.. Jabiru Australia has reduced the price of the engines to its dealers for a one time sale, this sale will end April 15th! Engine order payment will be due by April 15th for Engine delivery at the end of June. Current OEM discounts will also apply to the sales! The 3300 is $18,400 and is on sale for $16,400 The 2200 is $13,900 and is on sale for $12,900 Give us a shout if you need further info. Do Not Archive Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!" Checked by AVG. 10:14 AM


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    Time: 10:09:54 AM PST US
    From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
    Subject: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet.
    Actually that book was replaced by the Kitfox Pilots Guide and is available Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of RRTRACK@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 6:53 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. I am looking to buy or just read someone's "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. They are not available through the new Kitfox. If anyone has one available or knows where I can get a copy please let me know. Mark Kitfox 5 Hartford, Wisconsin _____ It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. <http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001> Checked by AVG. 10:14 AM


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    Time: 10:36:12 AM PST US
    From: "Trey Moran" <nail13zg@centurytel.net>
    Subject: Kitfox Pilots Guide
    John, How much is the book. Trey Moran Polson, Mt ----- Original Message ----- From: jdmcbean To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 11:07 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. Actually that book was replaced by the =93Kitfox Pilots Guide=94 and is available=85 Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of RRTRACK@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 6:53 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. I am looking to buy or just read someone's "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. They are not available through the new Kitfox. If anyone has one available or knows where I can get a copy please let me know. Mark Kitfox 5 Hartford, Wisconsin ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 10:41:17 AM PST US
    Subject: trailer
    From: kaufjm@aol.com
    Here are some pictures of my Kitfox trailer that I built using a boat trailer. I built It so the fox would ride as low to the ground as possible and in an almost level position. I must say works very well. I usually haul a short distance but I think it would work very well on long hauls too.=C2- The reason for the long ramps is I wanted to keep the wheel pants on an I use the ramps for scaffolding and didn't want to cut them.=C2- =C2- Jon Kaufmann=C2- IV 1200 N153JK #1806 912ULS=C2- 1005 Meadows Circle Bettendorf IA.=C2- Orginal buyer/builder/flyer.=C2-


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    Time: 10:45:35 AM PST US
    From: "Chuck Popenoe" <cpops@verizon.net>
    Subject: Trailering
    Re trailering, I have trailed my Avid tail-first thousands of miles in the past 15 years, since all the fields that I fly from are at least 45 miles from my home in the Washington DC suburbs. I designed and welded up a multipurpose custom trailer which fits the Avid, my J-3 Kitten, and my VW dune buggy. One size fits all! I keep the Avid on its trailer in my garage and when I want to fly, I just open the garage door, roll it out and hook it on the car. At the airport, I can get it off of the trailer, unfold the wings and be taxiing in less than 10 minutes. I tow the Avid at about 65-70 mph except in very windy conditions. The two worst problems with trailering on an open trailer are rain, and large trucks, which have serious wake vortices. I therefore avoid driving behind any large boxy trucks! It=92s very important to restrain the elevators (both sides) and the rudder securely. Trailering is harder on the aircraft than anything except crashing! After a bad experience I constructed additional support struts to go from the forward =93tow on its own wheels=94 point to the wings folded strut. This essentially triangulates the wing support point, greatly lessening any possible movement. I also do not tow with anything more than a couple of gallons of fuel in the wing tank. I also welded up a pipe handle, which plugs into the =93tow on its own wheels=94 tubes and greatly aids in getting the Avid on and off the trailer, and maneuvering the plane while on the ground. All of these points can be seen in the photos section under =93Pops=92 Avid A=94 photos. Or: http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/avid_flyer/photos/browse/7843 Pops S/N 113 Checked by AVG. 3/8/2008 10:14 AM


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    Time: 11:58:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Jabiru Engines
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    John McBean, do you sell the jaberu? I can't afford one right now but am considering one for my Classic 4 to replace the 503 in the future. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168467#168467


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    Time: 12:03:12 PM PST US
    From: RAY Gignac <kitfoxpilot@msn.com>
    Subject: Trailering
    Pop, were in Dc are you, I fly my Kitfox out of Freeway Airport! want to m eet you, maybe do some flying around! Ray (301) 520-3171 Cell List: TraileringTo: kitfox-list@matronics.com Re trailering, I have trailed my Avid tail-first thousands of miles in the past 15 years, since all the fields that I fly from are at least 45 miles f rom my home in the Washington DC suburbs. I designed and welded up a mult ipurpose custom trailer which fits the Avid, my J-3 Kitten, and my VW dune buggy. One size fits all! I keep the Avid on its trailer in my garage and when I want to fly, I just open the garage door, roll it out and hook it o n the car. At the airport, I can get it off of the trailer, unfold the wi ngs and be taxiing in less than 10 minutes. I tow the Avid at about 65-70 mph except in very windy conditions. The two worst problems with trailerin g on an open trailer are rain, and large trucks, which have serious wake vo rtices. I therefore avoid driving behind any large boxy trucks! It=92s very important to restrain the elevators (both sides) and the rudder securely. Trailering is harder on the aircraft than anything except crash ing! After a bad experience I constructed additional support struts to go from the forward =93tow on its own wheels=94 point to the wings folded stru t. This essentially triangulates the wing support point, greatly lessening any possible movement. I also do not tow with anything more than a couple of gallons of fuel in the wing tank. I also welded up a pipe handle, whic h plugs into the =93tow on its own wheels=94 tubes and greatly aids in gett ing the Avid on and off the trailer, and maneuvering the plane while on the ground. All of these points can be seen in the photos section under =93Pops=92 Avid A=94 photos. Or: http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/avid_flyer/photos/browse/7843 Pops S/N 113 Checked by AVG.3/8/2008 10:14 AM _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.-You IM, we g ive.


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    Time: 12:20:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trailering my Kitfox
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    > I am going to pick up my (new to me) Kitfox V vixen on Friday and will need to haul it about 700 miles. I was wondering if someone would be so kind as to email me a picture or drawing of how the wings/tail ties down. The plane does not have those items with it and the current owner has never done it. Any information would be helpful > Thanks > Ted Ted, When the wings of a tri gear plane are folded back it becomes a tail dragger, ie the tail sits on the ground. I heard of a tri gear avid flyer that had it's fuselage bent enough to wrinkle the fabric from being improperly secured to a trailer. This one was transported on a long flatbed trailer that was kind of light duty. A tail support was secured to the trailer deck under the tail to keep the nose wheel down on the deck and the tail was tied down to the support. The nose wheel was also tied down to the deck. It was towed about 700 miles I think. The trailer flexed enough to bend the fuselage. My thinking on this is if there is any chance the transport may flex, either the nose or the tail can be on the deck but not both. Just something to consider. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168471#168471


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    Time: 12:51:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Jabiru Engines
    From: tc9008@aol.com
    Which engine is more suited for a 1998 Kitfox IV. Travis -----Original Message----- From: jdmcbean <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com> Sent: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:57 pm Subject: Kitfox-List: Jabiru Engines Just wanted to let every know.. =C2- Jabiru Australia has reduced the price of the engines to it=99s dealer s for a one time sale, this sale will end April 15th! Engine order payment will be due by April 15th for Engine delivery at the end of June. Current OEM discounts will also apply to the sales! =C2- The 3300 is $18,400 and is on sale for $16,400 The 2200 is $13,900 and is on sale for $12,900 =C2- Give us a shout if you need further info. =C2- Do Not Archive =C2- =C2- =C2-AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail Signature" Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com=C2- "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!" =C2- -= - The Kitfox-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! -= --> http://forums.matronics.com -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 01:16:05 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Jabiru Engines
    > From: tc9008@aol.com > Which engine is more suited for a 1998 Kitfox IV. My model 3 go over Vne with wide open throttle on the 2200, Travis. So I think it should be good enough for your model IV. Cheers, Michel Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 02:01:40 PM PST US
    From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
    Subject: Re: Jabiru Engines
    Yes we do... Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom Jones Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Jabiru Engines John McBean, do you sell the jaberu? I can't afford one right now but am considering one for my Classic 4 to replace the 503 in the future. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168467#168467 Checked by AVG. 10:14 AM Checked by AVG. 10:14 AM


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    Time: 02:01:40 PM PST US
    From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
    Subject: Jabiru Engines
    Both the 2200 and the 3300 have been on the IV.=C2- The 2200 is the most common.=C2- I only know of one 3300 on the IV.. Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com=C2- "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of tc9008@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Jabiru Engines Which engine is more suited for a 1998 Kitfox IV. Travis -----Original Message----- From: jdmcbean <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com> Sent: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:57 pm Subject: Kitfox-List: Jabiru Engines Just wanted to let every know.. Jabiru Australia has reduced the price of the engines to it=99s dealers for a one time sale, this sale will end April 15th! Engine order payment will be due by April 15th for Engine delivery at the end of June. Current OEM discounts will also apply to the sales! The 3300 is $18,400 and is on sale for $16,400 The 2200 is $13,900 and is on sale for $12,900 Give us a shout if you need further info. Do Not Archive Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com <http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/> =C2- "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!" rget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List ://forums.matronics.com lank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution _____ Supercharge your AIM. Get the AIM toolbar <http://download.aim.com/client/aimtoolbar?NCID=aolcmp00300000002586> for your browser. Kitfox-List Email Forum - -=C2-=C2- - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - - - List Contribution Web Site - -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. Checked by AVG. 3/8/2008 10:14 AM


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    Time: 03:38:29 PM PST US
    From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet.
    John, Where do you find that book. It's not in your online catalog. Pat Reilly Mod 3 Rebuild Rockford, IL From: jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.comTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Kitfox-List: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet.Date: Sat, 8 Mar 20 08 11:07:28 -0700 Actually that book was replaced by the =93Kitfox Pilots Guide=94 and is ava ilable=85 Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!" -----Original Message-----From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mai lto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of RRTRACK@aol.comSent : Saturday, March 08, 2008 6:53 AMTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: Kit fox-List: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. I am looking to buy or just read someone's "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. T hey are not available through the new Kitfox. If anyone has one available o r knows where I can get a copy please let me know. MarkKitfox 5 Hartford, Wisconsin It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhr ef="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 03:59:42 PM PST US
    From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
    Subject: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet.
    We have them in stock Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of patrick reilly Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. John, Where do you find that book. It's not in your online catalog. Pat Reilly Mod 3 Rebuild Rockford, IL _____ From: jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. Actually that book was replaced by the Kitfox Pilots Guide and is available Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of RRTRACK@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 6:53 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. I am looking to buy or just read someone's "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. They are not available through the new Kitfox. If anyone has one available or knows where I can get a copy please let me know. Mark Kitfox 5 Hartford, Wisconsin _____ It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. <http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c arget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG. 10:14 AM


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    Time: 05:31:56 PM PST US
    From: Marwynne <marwynne@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet.
    How much do you want for them...... .I think that is what he is after. You have made such a big deal out of not telling anyone. How much for the book? jdmcbean wrote: > > We have them in stock > > > > Fly Safe !! > > John & Debra McBean > > 208.337.5111 > > _www.kitfoxaircraft.com_ > > /"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of *patrick > reilly > *Sent:* Saturday, March 08, 2008 4:35 PM > *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: Kitfox-List: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. > > > > John, Where do you find that book. It's not in your online catalog. > > > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 Rebuild > Rockford, IL > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:07:28 -0700 > > Actually that book was replaced by the Kitfox Pilots Guide and is > available > > > > Fly Safe !! > > John & Debra McBean > > 208.337.5111 > > _www.kitfoxaircraft.com_ > > /"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of > *RRTRACK@aol.com > *Sent:* Saturday, March 08, 2008 6:53 AM > *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Kitfox-List: Looking for: "How to fly a Kitfox" booklet. > > > > I am looking to buy or just read someone's "How to fly a Kitfox" > booklet. They are not available through the new Kitfox. If anyone has > one available or knows where I can get a copy please let me know. > > > > Mark > Kitfox 5 > Hartford, Wisconsin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. > <http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001> > > * * > * * > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > * * > * * > *arget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List* > *p://forums.matronics.com* > *blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > * * > * * > * * > ** > * - The Kitfox-List Email Forum -* > ** > ** > ** > ** > * --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List* > ** > * - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -* > ** > * --> http://forums.matronics.com* > ** > * - List Contribution Web Site -* > * Thank you for your generous support!* > * -Matt Dralle, List Admin.* > * --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > ** > * * > * > > > *




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