Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Thu 03/13/08


Total Messages Posted: 29



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:03 AM - Re: Sprung Tailwheel (Catz631@aol.com)
     2. 05:30 AM - Re: Sprung Tailwheel (fox5flyer)
     3. 06:07 AM - Trailering my KitfoxRe: Trailering my Kitfox (flier)
     4. 07:01 AM - Re: Lord mount "pre-compression" (Lynn Matteson)
     5. 07:06 AM - Re: Trailering my KitfoxRe: Trailering my Kitfox (patrick reilly)
     6. 07:06 AM - Re: Sprung Tailwheel (Lynn Matteson)
     7. 07:24 AM - Re: Re: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
     8. 08:54 AM - Re: Breaker / switch question? ()
     9. 09:11 AM - Re: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM (SkySteve)
    10. 09:13 AM - Trailering my KitfoxRe: Trailering my Kitfox (flier)
    11. 10:06 AM - Re: Sprung Tailwheel ()
    12. 10:15 AM - Re: Trailering my KitfoxRe: Trailering my Kitfox (patrick reilly)
    13. 11:25 AM - Re: Sprung Tailwheel (Clint Bazzill)
    14. 12:02 PM - Re: Lord mount "pre-compression" (RAY Gignac)
    15. 01:42 PM - Kitfox 100mph Airspeed indicator (Pat Reilly)
    16. 02:45 PM - Re: Sprung Tailwheel (Lynn Matteson)
    17. 02:53 PM - Re: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM (jeff puls)
    18. 03:04 PM - Re: Trailering my Kitfox/tailwheel (Lynn Matteson)
    19. 03:09 PM - Re: Re: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
    20. 04:59 PM - Re: Lord mount "pre-compression" (Andy Fultz)
    21. 05:02 PM - Re: Kitfox 100mph Airspeed indicator (SUE MICHAELS)
    22. 05:25 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 33 Msgs - 03/10/08 (DeWayne Clifford)
    23. 06:04 PM - Re: Breaker / switch question? (SUE MICHAELS)
    24. 06:47 PM - Windshield Material? ? ? (Andy Fultz)
    25. 07:36 PM - Tricycle Kitfox II (Jose M. Toro)
    26. 08:20 PM - Re: Tricycle Kitfox II (Dee Young)
    27. 08:32 PM - Re: Tricycle Kitfox II (SkySteve)
    28. 08:59 PM - Re: Trailering my Kitfox/tailwheel (patrick reilly)
    29. 09:06 PM - Re: Sprung Tailwheel (Guy Buchanan)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:03:59 AM PST US
    From: Catz631@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Sprung Tailwheel
    Check out Sportflight you will see a picture of a broken alum spring there. Dick Maddux Fox 4-1200 **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)


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    Time: 05:30:00 AM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Re: Sprung Tailwheel
    That's the one I was talking about. Thanks for hunting it down. Deke http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=1061 820002 ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sprung Tailwheel Check out Sportflight you will see a picture of a broken alum spring there. Dick Maddux Fox 4-1200 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance.


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    Time: 06:07:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trailering my KitfoxRe: Trailering my Kitfox
    From: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
    Thanks. I simply went to the auto parts store and got the heaviest pair of gas struts I could find. The struts need to have fittings on the top and bottom that will take bolts or can be modified to be bolted. The uprights are 4" channel. I cut slots in the top of the uprights corresponding to the stroke of the struts. Took a washer and a 1" or so long chromoly tube bushing (with an ID the same as the OD of the rod that goes through the tow bracket), welded the washer to the bushing then cut a hole in the top of the gas strut fitting that would allow the bushing to slip in. You end up with the bottom of the struts bolted to the uprights and the top able to slide up and down in the slots. The uprights pivot down horizontal on the trailer. After I load the plane, I pivot the uprights vertical, slid the tow bracket rod through one strut/upright, through the fuselage, then through the other side upright/strut, and secure it with a nut on the end. Works good. I didn't feel I needed to remove all the weight off the tailspring, but I wanted to take the shock out and have the tail secured just in case something did ever happen to the tailspring. Those other padded uprights keep the base of the rudder from flexing in the wind... Regards, Ted N962TC [quote="patreilly43(at)hotmail.co"]Ted, Thanks for the pics. That is an absolutely beautiful trailering suspension. Do you know what struts you used? Do Not Archieve Pat Reilly Mod 3 Rebuild Rockford, IL > Subject: Trailering my KitfoxRe: Trailering my Kitfox > From: flier@sbcglobal.net > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:28:01 -0700 > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > I have a pair of arms that pivot up with dual gas struts that supports the tail of my IV when on the road. There's a pic at > > http://www.foxflier.com/kitfox/Trailer/HPIM0253.jpg > > Regards, > > Ted > 962TC > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168887#168887 > > > > > > > > > [b] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169540#169540


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    Time: 07:01:43 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Lord mount "pre-compression"
    You could make a special device to go on the end of a C-clamp...a U- shaped foot that would be wide enough to allow for squeezing the rubber, and get the nut started. Or just grind a slot in the end of a C-clamp. Think along these lines and you'll come up with something. Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/480+ hrs On Mar 12, 2008, at 11:40 PM, wadegreaves wrote: > <reinagreaves@comcast.net> > > Anyone have trouble getting the rubber lord mount grommets to > compress a little to start the engine mount bolts? > Have a 912 and trying to get the ring mount attached to the engine > mount. When I get all the 'stuff' in line, there aren't any > threads sticking out to start the castle nut. I can compress a > little and get a glimpse of a thread but with the metal bushing > inside, can't seem to get the nuts started. > Is there a secret trick or tool for 'pre-compressing' the lords to > get threads out? > And yes, I am using the proper bolts and all. > Thanks! > Wade > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169483#169483 > >


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    Time: 07:06:11 AM PST US
    From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Trailering my KitfoxRe: Trailering my Kitfox
    Ted, Thanks again for the reply and explaination. It took both, but now I u nderstand exactly what you did. Is that a Maule solid rubber tail wheel? I am replacing the solid aluminum "spring" mount with a 3 leaf spring from Ki tfox. I have the solid rubber Maule wheel and am going to replace it with s omething softer. Pat Reilly Mod 3 Rebuild Rockford, IL > Subject: Kitfox-List: Trailering my KitfoxRe: Trailering my Kitfox> From: flier@sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:04:58 -0700> <flier@sbcglobal.net>> > Thanks.> > I simply went to the auto parts store and got the heaviest pair of gas struts I could find. The struts need to ha ve fittings on the top and bottom that will take bolts or can be modified t o be bolted.> > The uprights are 4" channel. I cut slots in the top of the uprights corresponding to the stroke of the struts. Took a washer and a 1" or so long chromoly tube bushing (with an ID the same as the OD of the rod that goes through the tow bracket), welded the washer to the bushing then c ut a hole in the top of the gas strut fitting that would allow the bushing to slip in. You end up with the bottom of the struts bolted to the uprights and the top able to slide up and down in the slots.> > The uprights pivot down horizontal on the trailer. After I load the plane, I pivot the upright s vertical, slid the tow bracket rod through one strut/upright, through the fuselage, then through the other side upright/strut, and secure it with a nut on the end. Works good.> > I didn't feel I needed to remove all the wei ght off the tailspring, but I wanted to take the shock out and have the tai l secured just in case something did ever happen to the tailspring.> > Thos e other padded uprights keep the base of the rudder from flexing in the win d...> > Regards,> > Ted > N962TC> > [quote="patreilly43(at)hotmail.co"]Te d, Thanks for the pics. That is an absolutely beautiful trailering suspensi on. Do you know what struts you used?> Do Not Archieve> Pat Reilly> Mod 3 R ebuild> Rockford, IL> > > > Subject: Trailering my KitfoxRe: Trailering my Kitfox> > From: flier@sbcglobal.net> > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:28:01 -070 0> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by : "flier" > > > > I have a pair of arms that pivot up with dual gas struts that supports the tail of my IV when on the road. There's a pic at> > > > h ttp://www.foxflier.com/kitfox/Trailer/HPIM0253.jpg> > > > Regards,> > > > T ed> > 962TC> > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > > > http://f orums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168887#168887> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [b]> > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums. ====================> > >


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    Time: 07:06:57 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Sprung Tailwheel
    My tailwheel spring...the original steel 2-leaf...broke right where the helper/booster leaf contacted the ONE main leaf. I'm thinking that maybe the radius of the end of that helper/booster leaf might be made a bit larger to spread the contact area of that leaf. I know this has nothing to do with the alum spring, other than the picture clearly shows the break occurs at the last point of contact with something that doesn't give. Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/480+ hrs On Mar 13, 2008, at 8:25 AM, fox5flyer wrote: > That's the one I was talking about. Thanks for hunting it down. > Deke > http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl? > action=view&epoch=1061820002 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catz631@aol.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:56 AM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sprung Tailwheel > > Check out Sportflight you will see a picture of a broken alum > spring there. > > Dick Maddux > Fox 4-1200 > > > It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http:// > www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http:// > forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/ > contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c_- > ============================================================ _- > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > ============================================================ _- > contribution_- > ===========================================================


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    Time: 07:24:48 AM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM
    Steve, I keep just a little brake on but in checking this week, there is still a lot of pad left after 775 hours. mostly just polishing the rotors. coming to logan sometime? -------------- Original message -------------- From: "SkySteve" <Wilson@REinfo.org> > > Thanks, John. I currently have mine set at 1800 RPM also, but it really taxis > fast and would like to be able to slow down without riding the brakes. > > -------- > Steve Wilson > Huntsville, UT > Kitfox I-IV 85DD > 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive > Convertable Nosewheel & Tailwheel > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169411#169411 > > > > > > > > > > <html><body> <DIV>Steve, I keep just a little brake on but in checking this week, there is still a lot of pad left after 775 hours.&nbsp; mostly just polishing the rotors.&nbsp; coming to logan sometime?</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> ures N <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 08:54:19 AM PST US
    From: <l.morris@tx.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Breaker / switch question?
    Unlike Guy I don't agree with him on that electrical book. I bought it and I thought it was a waste of the $33.00.It deals with scientific, theory Q and A was is something used in electrical engineering classes.During my aviation career I've learned all about switches ,breakers,and busses.Batt busses,main busses,essential busses,avionics, cross-town busses etc. As a builder I wand to know what I need, where do I get it, how do I put it together and hook it up. I don't want to design it from scratch, electron by electron. That's what I'm interested in. --- Leon Morris/Classic 4/60%/Flower Mound, TX ---- Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> wrote: > > At 06:07 PM 3/10/2008, you wrote: > >Is it a good idea to have an alternator breaker switch located > >somewhere, and if so what Amp for a 50amp Alternator? Again how > >about a breaker and a switch for a master bus, I have items needing > >10 and 15 amp, and what would the recommended Amp be ? I have > >searched for info but have not come up with anything concrete to > >show me the way. > > > Hi George, > It sounds like you need to get familiar with Bob Nucholl's > AeroElectric Connection. (www.aeroelectric.com) He has great > information on nearly every permutation of small aircraft wiring > system. I highly recommend his book. He also moderates a list on > Matronics; you can sign up the same way you signed up for this one. > (http://www.matronics.com/subscribe/) > As to your question, the way Bob handles an alternator is to > use what he calls a crowbar over-voltage protection module coupled > with an over voltage relay. The module senses high voltage and shorts > the field supply to ground, opening a simple 5A breaker and shutting > down the alternator. There's a lot more to it, technically, but I'll > let Bob tell it. > Bob also doesn't have breakers or fuses for bus feeds. (In > my bird, the bus is the fuse block.) He does use a double pole switch > to energize it. Let me know if you need specifics. > > > Guy Buchanan > San Diego, CA > K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. > > > > >


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    Time: 09:11:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM
    From: "SkySteve" <Wilson@REinfo.org>
    John, Yes on the coming to LGU. Johnny O and I have discussed it several times. Thinking of coming to one of your Saturday morning breakfasts in the near future. It's snowing here today and looks like it will be thru the weekend. Understand you and I are in the same business (which sucks right now). Would love to meet you. In fact, maybe you, John and I should meet for breakfast or lunch at OGD soon (or even somewhere in BMC). -------- Steve Wilson Huntsville, UT Kitfox I-IV 85DD 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive Convertable Nosewheel &amp; Tailwheel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169578#169578


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    Time: 09:13:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trailering my KitfoxRe: Trailering my Kitfox
    From: "flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
    No prob Pat. Those photos were taken a couple of yrs ago before I installed the softer homebuilders special tailwheel. I flew the hard Maule for yrs, and it was fine -- just solid -- but I've really liked the homebuilder wheel the last couple of yrs. Regards, Ted N962TC patreilly43(at)hotmail.co wrote: > Ted, Thanks again for the reply and explaination. It took both, but?now I understand exactly what you did. Is that a Maule solid?rubber tail wheel? I am replacing the solid aluminum "spring" mount with a 3 leaf spring from Kitfox. I have the solid rubber Maule wheel and am going to replace it with something softer. > > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 Rebuild > Rockford, IL > Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169579#169579


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    Time: 10:06:02 AM PST US
    From: <l.morris@tx.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Sprung Tailwheel
    With all the talk of tail wheel springs and solid tailwheels is everyone trying to say that the springs and tailwheels supplied with the kits will not hold up with average use and that they may be defective and should be relpaced before we fly the airplane for the first time? ---Leon Morris/Classic 4/60%/Flower Mound,TX ---- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote: > > My tailwheel spring...the original steel 2-leaf...broke right where > the helper/booster leaf contacted the ONE main leaf. I'm thinking > that maybe the radius of the end of that helper/booster leaf might be > made a bit larger to spread the contact area of that leaf. > I know this has nothing to do with the alum spring, other than the > picture clearly shows the break occurs at the last point of contact > with something that doesn't give. > > Lynn Matteson > Grass Lake, Michigan > Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 > flying w/480+ hrs > > > > On Mar 13, 2008, at 8:25 AM, fox5flyer wrote: > > > That's the one I was talking about. Thanks for hunting it down. > > Deke > > http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl? > > action=view&epoch=1061820002 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Catz631@aol.com > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:56 AM > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sprung Tailwheel > > > > Check out Sportflight you will see a picture of a broken alum > > spring there. > > > > Dick Maddux > > Fox 4-1200 > > > > > > > > It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http:// > > www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http:// > > forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/ > > contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c_- > > ============================================================ _- > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List_- > > ============================================================ _- > > forums.matronics.com_- > > ============================================================ _- > > contribution_- > > =========================================================== > > > > >


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    Time: 10:15:56 AM PST US
    From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Trailering my KitfoxRe: Trailering my Kitfox
    Ted, Thanks. You are the 2nd one to recommend the Homebuilder tail wheel. I guess that is the one I'll use. Price is right and it is reported to be mu ch softer than the Maule. Do not archieve Pat Reilly Mod 3 Rebuild Rockford, IL> Subject: Kitfox-List: Trailering my KitfoxRe: Trailering my K itfox> From: flier@sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:10:49 -0700> To flier@sbcglobal.net>> > No prob Pat. Those photos were taken a couple of yr s ago before I installed the softer homebuilders special tailwheel. I flew the hard Maule for yrs, and it was fine -- just solid -- but I've really li ked the homebuilder wheel the last couple of yrs.> > Regards,> > Ted> N962T C> > > patreilly43(at)hotmail.co wrote:> > Ted, Thanks again for the reply and explaination. It took both, but?now I understand exactly what you did. Is that a Maule solid?rubber tail wheel? I am replacing the solid aluminum "spring" mount with a 3 leaf spring from Kitfox. I have the solid rubber Ma ule wheel and am going to replace it with something softer.> > > > Pat Reil ly> > Mod 3 Rebuild> > Rockford, IL > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169579#169579> > > > ===> > >


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    Time: 11:25:46 AM PST US
    From: Clint Bazzill <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Sprung Tailwheel
    That is interesting. What tailwheel was he using, anyone know. Clint From: fox5flyer@idealwifi.netTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: Re: Kitf ox-List: Sprung TailwheelDate: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:25:06 -0400 That's the one I was talking about. Thanks for hunting it down. Deke http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=106182 0002 ----- Original Message ----- From: Catz631@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sprung Tailwheel Check out Sportflight you will see a picture of a broken alum spring there. Dick Maddux Fox 4-1200 It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhr ef="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 12:02:22 PM PST US
    From: RAY Gignac <kitfoxpilot@msn.com>
    Subject: Lord mount "pre-compression"
    Sounds like your bolts might be to short, I replaced mine and did not have to compress them to fit! Check your bolt length. Ray> From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Lord mount "pre-comp ression"> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:58:35 -0400> To: kitfox-list@matronics. > You could make a special device to go on the end of a C-clamp...a U- > s haped foot that would be wide enough to allow for squeezing the > rubber, a nd get the nut started. Or just grind a slot in the end of > a C-clamp. Thi nk along these lines and you'll come up with something.> > Lynn Matteson> G rass Lake, Michigan> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200> flying w/480+ hrs> > > > On Mar 12, 2008, at 11:40 PM, wadegreaves wrote:> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wadegreaves" > > <reinagreaves@comcast.net>> >> > Anyo ne have trouble getting the rubber lord mount grommets to > > compress a li ttle to start the engine mount bolts?> > Have a 912 and trying to get the r ing mount attached to the engine > > mount. When I get all the 'stuff' in l ine, there aren't any > > threads sticking out to start the castle nut. I c an compress a > > little and get a glimpse of a thread but with the metal b ushing > > inside, can't seem to get the nuts started.> > Is there a secret trick or tool for 'pre-compressing' the lords to > > get threads out?> > A nd yes, I am using the proper bolts and all.> > Thanks!> > Wade> >> >> >> > > > Read this topic online here:> >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopi ====================> > > _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail=AE-get yo ur "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx


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    Time: 01:42:40 PM PST US
    From: "Pat Reilly" <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Kitfox 100mph Airspeed indicator
    Kitfoxers, I have a 100 mph Kitfox airspeed indicator, in excelent condition, for sale or trade. I need a 3 1/8" altimeter, elect turn & bank indicator or a dual amp/volt meter. I also need a comm radio, nav radio and a transponder. Pat Reilly Mod 3 Rebuild Rockford, IL


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    Time: 02:45:26 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Sprung Tailwheel
    Well, maybe not the FIRST time....I'm kidding....but the reason I switched to the softer tailwheel was several people told me that it gave a softer/smoother ride. I went one step further in reasoning...it weighs less, and I knew that I was going to be installing a lighter engine, and that less weight back there would be a good thing. Lets face it, the Maule tailwheel was first intended for a heavier plane, so maybe it was overkill for the Kitfox in the first place. Why did Skystar/Denney use it initially? If I might surmise, they were trying to offer a kit airplane at a reasonable cost, and probably ordered steerable tailwheels from the lowest bidder...I'm guessing, remember....and Maule came in low...no pun intended. As far as the springs are concerned, mine lasted 487 rough, 69-year-old-rookie, learning-to-fly, turf landings before it let go. From what I've gathered, that's a lifetime of landings for a lot of pilots, most of whom land on smooth paved runways. I don't know how it stacks up against other aircraft. And remember, someone here said that they probably didn't heat treat the first springs all that well. Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/480+ hrs On Mar 13, 2008, at 1:02 PM, <l.morris@tx.rr.com> wrote: > > With all the talk of tail wheel springs and solid tailwheels is > everyone trying to say that the springs and tailwheels supplied > with the kits will not hold up with average use and that they may > be defective and should be relpaced before we fly the airplane for > the first time? ---Leon Morris/Classic 4/60%/Flower Mound,TX > ---- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote: >> >> My tailwheel spring...the original steel 2-leaf...broke right where >> the helper/booster leaf contacted the ONE main leaf. I'm thinking >> that maybe the radius of the end of that helper/booster leaf might be >> made a bit larger to spread the contact area of that leaf. >> I know this has nothing to do with the alum spring, other than the >> picture clearly shows the break occurs at the last point of contact >> with something that doesn't give. >> >> Lynn Matteson >> Grass Lake, Michigan >> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 >> flying w/480+ hrs >> >> >> >> On Mar 13, 2008, at 8:25 AM, fox5flyer wrote: >> >>> That's the one I was talking about. Thanks for hunting it down. >>> Deke >>> http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl? >>> action=view&epoch=1061820002 >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Catz631@aol.com >>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:56 AM >>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sprung Tailwheel >>> >>> Check out Sportflight you will see a picture of a broken alum >>> spring there. >>> >>> Dick >>> Maddux >>> Fox 4-1200 >>> >>> >>> >>> It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http:// >>> www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http:// >>> forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/ >>> contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c_- >>> ============================================================ _- >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List_- >>> ============================================================ _- >>> forums.matronics.com_- >>> ============================================================ _- >>> contribution_- >>> =========================================================== >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 02:53:29 PM PST US
    From: "jeff puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM
    Steve, When my throttle is against the stops on short final I'm at 2,000 RPM. Once I touch down and tap the brakes I keep it at 2,000 RPM. Anything less then that I hear the dog ears/legs (whatever) slapping in the gear box. Jeff Classic IV ----- Original Message ----- From: "SkySteve" <Wilson@REinfo.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM > > At what RPM do you set your 80 HP Rotax 912 when the throttle is pulled > all the way back (and the engine will still run)? I understand Rotax > suggests 2,000 to 2,500 RPM at idle, but I'm referring to when the > throttle is all the way back and you are about to land, without killing > the engine, or when you want to taxi slowly? > > -------- > Steve Wilson > Huntsville, UT > Kitfox I-IV 85DD > 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive > Convertable Nosewheel &amp; Tailwheel > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169388#169388 > > >


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    Time: 03:04:06 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Trailering my Kitfox/tailwheel
    Just for grins, here's pics I took of my Homebuilder's tailwheel comparing it to the Maule. I don't happen to recall the comparative weights. On Mar 13, 2008, at 1:13 PM, patrick reilly wrote: > Ted, Thanks. You are the 2nd one to recommend the Homebuilder tail > wheel. I guess that is the one I'll use. Price is right and it is > reported to be much softer than the Maule. > > > Do not archieve > > Pat Reilly > Mod 3 Rebuild > Rockford, IL > > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Trailering my KitfoxRe: Trailering my Kitfox > > From: flier@sbcglobal.net > > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:10:49 -0700 > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > > > > No prob Pat. Those photos were taken a couple of yrs ago before I > installed the softer homebuilders special tailwheel. I flew the > hard Maule for yrs, and it was fine -- just solid -- but I've > really liked the homebuilder wheel the last couple of yrs.


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    Time: 03:09:15 PM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM
    our monthly breakfasts are 8-10 on the second Saturday of each month. come on down J -------------- Original message -------------- From: "SkySteve" <Wilson@REinfo.org> > > John, > Yes on the coming to LGU. Johnny O and I have discussed it several times. > Thinking of coming to one of your Saturday morning breakfasts in the near > future. It's snowing here today and looks like it will be thru the weekend. > Understand you and I are in the same business (which sucks right now). Would > love to meet you. In fact, maybe you, John and I should meet for breakfast or > lunch at OGD soon (or even somewhere in BMC). > > -------- > Steve Wilson > Huntsville, UT > Kitfox I-IV 85DD > 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive > Convertable Nosewheel & Tailwheel > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169578#169578 > > > > > > > > > > <html><body> <DIV>our monthly breakfasts are 8-10 on the second Saturday of each month.&nbsp; come on down</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>J</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "SkySteve" &lt;Wilson@REinfo.org&gt; <BR><BR>&gt; --&gt; Kitfox-List message posted by: "SkySteve" <WILSON@REINFO.ORG><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; John, <BR>&gt; Yes on the coming to LGU. Johnny O and I have discussed it several times. <BR>&gt; Thinking of coming to one of your Saturday morning breakfasts in the near <BR>&gt; future. It's snowing here today and looks like it will be thru the weekend. <BR>&gt; Understand you and I are in the same business (which sucks right now). Would <BR>&gt; love to meet you. In fact, maybe you, John and I should meet for breakfast or <BR>&gt; lunch at OGD soon (or even somewhere in BMC). <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -------- <BR>&gt; Steve Wilson <BR>&gt; Huntsville, UT <BR>&gt; Kitfox I-IV 85DD <BR>&gt; 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive <BR>&gt; Convertable Nosewheel &amp; Tailwheel <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt ; Read gt; _- <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 04:59:51 PM PST US
    From: "Andy Fultz" <andynfultz@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Lord mount "pre-compression"
    If you will get some longer bolts, even hardware variety will do, and tighten them up one good time you will probably be able to use the correct bolts then. That's what I had to do. Andy F. > <reinagreaves@comcast.net> > > Anyone have trouble getting the rubber lord mount grommets to > compress a little to start the engine mount bolts? > Have a 912 and trying to get the ring mount attached to the engine > mount. When I get all the 'stuff' in line, there aren't any > threads sticking out to start the castle nut. I can compress a > little and get a glimpse of a thread but with the metal bushing > inside, can't seem to get the nuts started. > Is there a secret trick or tool for 'pre-compressing' the lords to > get threads out? > And yes, I am using the proper bolts and all. > Thanks! > Wade > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169483#169483 > >


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    Time: 05:02:50 PM PST US
    From: SUE MICHAELS <michaega@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox 100mph Airspeed indicator
    Pat, I have a couple items not on your wish list. I found I don't need since I'm going with EFIS system. 1. Amer-King 350 altitude encoder. New in the box never touched. Purchased 11/07 2. Hobbs quartz hour meter. Rectangular 1" x 1 1/2" new in the box. George ----- Original Message ---- From: Pat Reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:39:17 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 100mph Airspeed indicator Kitfoxers, I have a 100 mph Kitfox airspeed indicator, in excelent condition, for sale or trade. I need a 3 1/8" altimeter, elect turn & bank indicator or a dual amp/volt meter. I also need a comm radio, nav radio and a transponder. Pat Reilly Mod 3 Rebuild Rockford, IL


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    Time: 05:25:26 PM PST US
    From: "DeWayne Clifford" <kitfox@bresnan.net>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 33 Msgs - 03/10/08
    Well I took some pictures , but my new computer with windows vista won't download them. It will install the cannon ZoomBrowserEX from the CD , but will not open it.I'm just a novice with computers and it has me stumped . ----- Original Message ----- From: Marco Menezes To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:42 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 33 Msgs - 03/10/08 DeWayne, how about some pics? DeWayne Clifford <kitfox@bresnan.net> wrote: I used cordura nylon , like they use for packs , 2024T6 .025 alum , velcro and camlocks in the same holes that hold the turtle deck . ----- Original Message ----- From: riquenkelly@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:22 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 33 Msgs - 03/10/08 Trailer Experts, I have seen outstanding info on this site for the last month or so regarding trailering the Kitfox. What I haven't seen is any recommendation for inclement weather. If trailering over a long distance what has anyone seen to keep rain and road debris from invading the cockpit? Thanks for the advice! Lot's of great experience in this site! Rique -----Original Message----- From: Kitfox-List Digest Server <kitfox-list@matronics.com> To: Kitfox-List Digest List <kitfox-list-digest@matronics.com> Sent: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 2:58 am Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 33 Msgs - 03/10/08 Be a better friend, newshound, and


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    Time: 06:04:01 PM PST US
    From: SUE MICHAELS <michaega@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Breaker / switch question?
    These question are to make me comfortable. I have read enough to contradict my ever setup. I figured I would ask those who have built a nice but simple setup that has worked. 1. ?? I want to the feed and to return the wire from the alternator to a switch on the panel. 14 ? 16 ? 18 ? wire gauge for alternator wire. Should the return wire connect directly to the battery? Cold side of master solenoid (master off) or where? Should I fuse this? I have 50 amp alternator. 2. ?? Master switch one wire goes Directly from the panel switch to the Master solenoid (small connector) and the other to airframe ground. Wire size ?? No fuse?? 3. ?? Hot wire feed for the panel should come from where? Direct from battery? Cold side of master solenoid (master off) ? The ignition switch ? Or where? This should be fused I assume with maybe 40 amp since I have 50 amp alternator and many panel circuits. Any other Ideas that don't blow a budget that has no funds left in it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks George ----- Original Message ---- From: "l.morris@tx.rr.com" <l.morris@tx.rr.com> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:51:25 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Breaker / switch question? Unlike Guy I don't agree with him on that electrical book. I bought it and I thought it was a waste of the $33.00.It deals with scientific, theory Q and A was is something used in electrical engineering classes.During my aviation career I've learned all about switches ,breakers,and busses.Batt busses,main busses,essential busses,avionics, cross-town busses etc. As a builder I wand to know what I need, where do I get it, how do I put it together and hook it up. I don't want to design it from scratch, electron by electron. That's what I'm interested in. --- Leon Morris/Classic 4/60%/Flower Mound, TX ---- Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> wrote: > > At 06:07 PM 3/10/2008, you wrote: > >Is it a good idea to have an alternator breaker switch located > >somewhere, and if so what Amp for a 50amp Alternator? Again how > >about a breaker and a switch for a master bus, I have items needing > >10 and 15 amp, and what would the recommended Amp be ? I have > >searched for info but have not come up with anything concrete to > >show me the way. > > > Hi George, > It sounds like you need to get familiar with Bob Nucholl's > AeroElectric Connection. (www.aeroelectric.com) He has great > information on nearly every permutation of small aircraft wiring > system. I highly recommend his book. He also moderates a list on > Matronics; you can sign up the same way you signed up for this one. > (http://www.matronics.com/subscribe/) > As to your question, the way Bob handles an alternator is to > use what he calls a crowbar over-voltage protection module coupled > with an over voltage relay. The module senses high voltage and shorts > the field supply to ground, opening a simple 5A breaker and shutting > down the alternator. There's a lot more to it, technically, but I'll > let Bob tell it. > Bob also doesn't have breakers or fuses for bus feeds. (In > my bird, the bus is the fuse block.) He does use a double pole switch > to energize it. Let me know if you need specifics. > > > Guy Buchanan > San Diego, CA > K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. > > > > >


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    Time: 06:47:44 PM PST US
    From: "Andy Fultz" <andynfultz@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Windshield Material? ? ?
    Someone on the AVID or KITFOX list once mentioned using PETG Sheet from K-Mac Plastics as replacement material. http://www.k-mac-plastics.net/petg-sheet.htm Has anyone used actually used it and if so how is working? I'm going to have to replace mine before first flight and will be needing to order something soon. Thanks. Andy F.


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    Time: 07:36:15 PM PST US
    From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Tricycle Kitfox II
    Hi listers: Has any of you converted a Kitfox II to tricycle. Would like to get advice, pictures, etc. I received feedback from John McBean that it has been done before. Now I just need to find the guy... Jose Toro (on behalf of "my" Kitfox new owner) ex-Kitfox II/582 ----- Original Message ---- From: jeff puls <pulsair@mindspring.com> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:43:30 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM Steve, When my throttle is against the stops on short final I'm at 2,000 RPM. Once I touch down and tap the brakes I keep it at 2,000 RPM. Anything less then that I hear the dog ears/legs (whatever) slapping in the gear box. Jeff Classic IV ----- Original Message ----- From: "SkySteve" <Wilson@REinfo.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM > > At what RPM do you set your 80 HP Rotax 912 when the throttle is pulled > all the way back (and the engine will still run)? I understand Rotax > suggests 2,000 to 2,500 RPM at idle, but I'm referring to when the > throttle is all the way back and you are about to land, without killing > the engine, or when you want to taxi slowly? > > -------- > Steve Wilson > Huntsville, UT > Kitfox I-IV 85DD > 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive > Convertable Nosewheel &amp; Tailwheel > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169388#169388 > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?


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    Time: 08:20:21 PM PST US
    From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Tricycle Kitfox II
    Guys name was Scott Millhouse maybe? I had a picture of the conversion but is gone. I would suggest you search the archives if you haven't already done so. Try his email address at <Scott.D.Millhouse@hnd01.usace.army.mil<mailto:Scott.D.Millhouse@hnd01.us ace.army.mil>>. Hope this is right. Dee Young Model II N345DY Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Jose M. Toro<mailto:jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:33 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Tricycle Kitfox II Hi listers: Has any of you converted a Kitfox II to tricycle. Would like to get advice, pictures, etc. I received feedback from John McBean that it has been done before. Now I just need to find the guy... Jose Toro (on behalf of "my" Kitfox new owner) ex-Kitfox II/582 ----- Original Message ---- From: jeff puls <pulsair@mindspring.com> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:43:30 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM <pulsair@mindspring.com<mailto:pulsair@mindspring.com>> Steve, When my throttle is against the stops on short final I'm at 2,000 RPM. Once I touch down and tap the brakes I keep it at 2,000 RPM. Anything less then that I hear the dog ears/legs (whatever) slapping in the gear box. Jeff Classic IV ----- Original Message ----- From: "SkySteve" <Wilson@REinfo.org<mailto:Wilson@REinfo.org>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM <Wilson@REinfo.org<mailto:Wilson@REinfo.org>> > > At what RPM do you set your 80 HP Rotax 912 when the throttle is pulled > all the way back (and the engine will still run)? I understand Rotax > suggests 2,000 to 2,500 RPM at idle, but I'm referring to when the > throttle is all the way back and you are about to land, without killing > the engine, or when you want to taxi slowly? > > -------- > Steve Wilson > Huntsville, UT > Kitfox I-IV 85DD > 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive > Convertable Nosewheel &amp; Tailwheel > > > > > Read this topic online ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Be a better friend, newshound, and http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List<http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?Kitfox-List> http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi on>


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    Time: 08:32:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tricycle Kitfox II
    From: "SkySteve" <Wilson@REinfo.org>
    Jose, I have just completed a Model I conversion to tri gear. Glad to help if I can. I used the Grove gear. Many people said it would only fit the Model IV and newer, but it bolted right onto my Model I. Got the nose gear from John McBean. When I did mine, I made certain the Grove gear could be repositioned to the forward position so I could later convert the plane back to taildragger if I wanted to. Make certain to keep the tail wheel if you do this. -------- Steve Wilson Huntsville, UT Kitfox I-IV 85DD 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive Convertable Nosewheel &amp; Tailwheel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169743#169743


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    Time: 08:59:57 PM PST US
    From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Trailering my Kitfox/tailwheel
    Lynn, Thanks for the pics. I will use that wheel & bearings. do not archieve Pat Reilly > From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Trailering my Kitfox/ta ilwheel> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:58:40 -0400> To: kitfox-list@matronics.c om> > Just for grins, here's pics I took of my Homebuilder's tailwheel > co mparing it to the Maule. I don't happen to recall the comparative > weights .>


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    Time: 09:06:03 PM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: Sprung Tailwheel
    At 02:42 PM 3/13/2008, you wrote: > From what I've gathered, that's a lifetime of landings for a lot of >pilots, most of whom land on smooth paved runways. I don't know Lynn. When you drop it in from six feet like I do, you probably get some good cushioning out of the turf runway. ;-) Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. Do not archive




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