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1. 12:33 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (JC Propeller Design)
2. 02:04 AM - Re: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM (dave)
3. 02:16 AM - Great Lakes Area KITFOX Fly-In (steve shinabery)
4. 04:31 AM - Re: F-15 emergency landing (fox5flyer)
5. 05:03 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (W Duke)
6. 05:04 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (fox5flyer)
7. 05:18 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (Lynn Matteson)
8. 05:30 AM - FL Dept Rev - Sales and Use Tax on Aircraft Owners and Purchasers (fox5flyer)
9. 05:39 AM - Re: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM (Catz631@aol.com)
10. 09:26 AM - Re: Homebuilders special tailwheel swap (Rexinator)
11. 10:06 AM - sun n fun & "new florida tax"... (john taylor)
12. 10:07 AM - Re: Homebuilders special tailwheel swap (Guy Buchanan)
13. 10:07 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (Guy Buchanan)
14. 10:08 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (wingnut)
15. 10:50 AM - Re: Homebuilders special tailwheel swap (Lynn Matteson)
16. 11:14 AM - Re: Homebuilders special tailwheel swap (Rexinator)
17. 01:58 PM - engine surge (Don and Dianne Usher)
18. 02:23 PM - Re: engine surge (Tom Jones)
19. 02:50 PM - Re: Need measurement (wrm38)
20. 02:55 PM - Re: Homebuilders special tailwheel swap (patrick reilly)
21. 03:29 PM - Re: FL Dept Rev - Sales and Use Tax on Aircraft Owners and Purch... (GONER752@aol.com)
22. 03:49 PM - Re: FL Dept Rev - Sales and Use Tax on Aircraft Owners and Purch... (fox5flyer)
23. 04:20 PM - Re: engine surge (Peter Newgard)
24. 04:33 PM - Re: Homebuilders special tailwheel swap (Lynn Matteson)
25. 04:39 PM - Re: FL Dept Rev - Sales and Use Tax on Aircraft Owners and Purch... (Rexinator)
26. 05:14 PM - 912s Ring Mount (wadegreaves)
27. 05:15 PM - Re: Need measurement (jlfernan)
28. 07:27 PM - Re: Homebuilders special tailwheel swap (patrick reilly)
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? |
Be aware of the owners of ANN versus SNF story, it is long and fun, or
sad story if you want. He is banned from SNF
don't trust everything or anything you read, not even this.
http://www.silverstatenews.com/0_ANN_Rocket_Racing_League/Jim_Campbell_Pa
ge/index.htm
http://www.silverstatenews.com/The_Extremist!/Jim_Campbell_Page/index2.ht
m
http://www.waterworkscase.com/Jim_Campbell's_Misconduct/page8.htm
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.aviation.homebuilt/2006-0
1/msg00858.html
http://eclipseaviationcritic.blogspot.com/2006/09/visions-of-sugar-plums-
dance-in-their.html
----- Original Message -----
From: Donroutledge@aol.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
Guys, The Florida tax plan on airplanes is on Aero News Network on
03/14/2008. You can recover the archive from the location at the bottom
of the page. It is the third article down "Florida Tax Ripoffs... "
Don't fly your airplane to Florida until you read this Don
In a message dated 3/19/2008 6:28:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
GONER752@aol.com writes:
I also receive Aero news network. I can confirm Don's post. I
couldn't believe what I was reading, Crazy nutso,right? But there it was
in electronic black and white. The article went on to say that SNF had
been declining for years and this could be the proverbial stake in the
heart. The article also noted that an inquiry by phone to SNF staff
received less than forthcoming answers. Could this possibly be true? I
checked both AOPA and EAA sites, but could find no substantiating
stories. I guess if I was planning to fly my brand new plane to SNF(I
wish), I'd be digging deeper till I found out for sure. If anyone finds
out if this state revenue generating gone berserk is true, please let
everyone know.
Greg G.
In a message dated 3/19/2008 6:14:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Donroutledge@aol.com writes:
If your going to Fun and Sun and you have owned your aircraft less
than 6 months, the desperate state of Florida can(WILL) TAX you up to
$30,000, YES THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS for just being in Florida. I just
read this on Aero-News Network last week. I went to their archives so I
could tell you exactly when it ran but their web site is down. Here is
an example; If you bought your airplane in Michigan and paid $2500 tax
on it, the state of Florida will tax you $30000 and will return $2500 to
you. However, the burden of proof is on you. I don't recall if $30000 is
the top or bottom cap but if you have owned the plane less than 6
months, and they catch you there, THEY WILL TAX YOU!!!!! Don Routledge
731 614 3951(real name and phone so you know I am not spamming you all.)
In a message dated 3/19/2008 3:53:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
lynnmatt@jps.net writes:
<lynnmatt@jps.net>
Ooooh, S'n'F's soundin' better all the time.
I'm planning on the Homebuilt Camping, but according to Travis,
some
Sport Planes are camping in the Ultralight area. So my plans
aren't
fixed just yet, but probably the Homebuilt Camp is a pretty good
bet,
as it's more descriptive of what I've got. Let's get together
off-
list and exchange cell numbers. Remember, I owe you a cigar.
I wonder if they allow for open fires? Gotta bring my tiki
torches
and get busted again. : )
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs
do not archive
On Mar 19, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Marco Menezes wrote:
> Where are you gonna camp Lynn? I'm going to FL for a wedding
in
> Miami and have planned a night in Lakeland and a day at SNF.
Let me
> know where you'll be and I'll look you up, buy you a beer or
3.
>
> do not archive
>
> Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
>
> Count me in, Travis. A friend and I are gonna try it again, he
in a
> C150, and hope to get beyond our shutdown (chicken out) point
of last
> year...Scott County Airport, Tennessee.
> We may not leave until Saturday, the 5th...not sure yet. Oh,
wait,
> you said Friday the 11th! Just for the weekend, eh?
>
> I'm going to S-N-F, but my friend is flying into Zephyrhills
airport
> and getting a car from there. I'll be camping at S-N-F. What
is the
> difference between the two locations that you mentioned as far
as
> camping/distance is concerned?
>
> I wouldn't mind landing in Mobile, AL, as I have yet to land
in
> Alabama, and I need it as part of my tentative 49-state
landing
> goal...eventual landing goal. : )
> Please send info to me at least, Travis...privately, unless
you have
> a big enough demand that warrants list posting.
> Hot damn...I'm gettin' excited!
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/480+ hrs
>
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2008, at 2:11 PM, FlyboyTR wrote:
>
> >
> > Who is going to Sun-N-Fun?
> >
> > We are planning on flying to Sun-N-Fun again this year. Last
year
> > we camped in the Homebuilt Camping area. Not too bad. This
year
> > we are returning to our rootsof many years ago and
land and camp
> > in the Ultralight Area (it is now mostly Sport Planes). That
is a
> > little closer to the facilities and not so far out!
> >
> > Our tentative plans, weather permitting, will be to depart
Mobile,
> > AL on Friday, 4/11/08, around daybreak or earlier.
We=99ll land at
> > Quincy, FL (2J9, just northwest of Tallahassee) for fuel and
a
> > short break. From there we will fly direct to SNF. Our
departure
> > from SNF will be Sunday morning, 4/13/08, for the return
flight
> > back home.
> >
> > Do we have any other Kitfox=99s on the forum that will
be flying
> > (or driving) to SNF? If so, please share your plans! If your
> > route of travel will be taking you through LA (Lower
Alabama) we
> > will be happy to provide ground transportation for meals,
hotels,
> > etc (prior to our departure on Friday!).
> >
> > We fly out of a private strip, 1,800=99 (not on
sectional) that is
> > located about 16 miles southeast of Mobile Regional Airport,
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM |
I am about 50 mph IAS on final +/- 5 mph and that will be at solo or at gross
on wheels /skis or floats.
If you are getting too much float a likely culprit is too hot on final.
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| Subject: | Great Lakes Area KITFOX Fly-In |
Great Lakes Area,KITFOX Fly-In::::where; Lake Field Airport,[CQA]
Celina,Ohio.When;;Sunday May 11th,2008,Time 12:00 noon Ohio time.FREE
BBQ to any pilot flying in there Kitfox.if you do not have a Kitfox,fly
In what ever U do have.all are welcome.It will be a FUN day with your
KITFOX Family.STEVE SHINABERY N554KF KF2
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| Subject: | Re: F-15 emergency landing |
The F15 uses a 0-0 ejection system and ejected safely. If you go to the
site and scroll down you can read the comments. A lot of arm chair quarter
backing criticizing the situation when not enough information was present.
I thought, considering the ramifications of it all, he handled it very well.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."
- Joseph Joubert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Crowder" <jcrowder@lpbroadband.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:27 PM
Subject: FW: Kitfox-List: F-15 emergency landing
> <jcrowder@lpbroadband.net>
>
> Kitfoxers,
> I forwarded Deke's letter to my son, Mark, who flew F15s for several
> years.
> You might find his comments below add a little. I found nothing on the
> link
> about the fate of the pilot. Did I just miss it? Does anyone know?
>
> Jim Crowder
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Crowder [mailto:markc@lpbroadband.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:17 PM
> To: Jim Crowder
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: F-15 emergency landing
>
>
> Hey Dad,
> I don't know anything about the accident, but I noted a couple of
> things. First of all, he touched down at 270 to 280 knots. There was no
> way he was going to stop that airplane on the runway. He may have also
> blown the tires as he landed well about their top design speed. All of
> that
> is probably a moot point since an uncontrolled fire like that might well
> have destroyed the airplane anyway. It was possible that he may have been
> able to engage the departure end cable, I don't know how it ended.
>
> Love Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Crowder [mailto:jcrowder@lpbroadband.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:57 PM
> To: Mark Crowder
> Subject: FW: Kitfox-List: F-15 emergency landing
>
>
> Mark,
> Check out the liveleak link below. It is of a F15 crash resulting from an
> engine fire that could not be put out. The pilot punched out at the end
> of
> the runway when the plane could not be stopped. No word on his fate.
> What
> do you know about it?
>
> Love, Dad
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of fox5flyer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:00 PM
> To: Kitfox List
> Subject: Kitfox-List: F-15 emergency landing
>
>
>
> Just in case any of you are interested, here's a pilots eye view of an
> emergency landing that didn't go so well. I you watch the head up display
> (HUD) you can see his heading, airspeed, and altitude fairly clearly
> throughout the approach.
> Deke
> do not archive
>
>> HUD view of an F-15 Emergency landing
>>
>>
>> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8df_1205185501
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? |
I am plannin to spam can and camp at SNF 4/11.
Maxwell
Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Lynn:
Take a trip to Hawaii and rent a plane to make it all 50. From what I've seen the
best way to see the islands is form a small plane or even a trike... if you
have the nerve.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
Count me in, Travis. A friend and I are gonna try it again, he in a
C150, and hope to get beyond our shutdown (chicken out) point of last
year...Scott County Airport, Tennessee.
We may not leave until Saturday, the 5th...not sure yet. Oh, wait,
you said Friday the 11th! Just for the weekend, eh?
I'm going to S-N-F, but my friend is flying into Zephyrhills airport
and getting a car from there. I'll be camping at S-N-F. What is the
difference between the two locations that you mentioned as far as
camping/distance is concerned?
I wouldn't mind landing in Mobile, AL, as I have yet to land in
Alabama, and I need it as part of my tentative 49-state landing
goal...eventual landing goal. : )
Please send info to me at least, Travis...privately, unless you have
a big enough demand that warrants list posting.
Hot damn...I'm gettin' excited!
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs
On Mar 19, 2008, at 2:11 PM, FlyboyTR wrote:
>
> Who is going to Sun-N-Fun?
>
> We are planning on flying to Sun-N-Fun again this year. Last year
> we camped in the Homebuilt Camping area. Not too bad. This year
> we are returning to our rootsof many years ago and land and camp
> in the Ultralight Area (it is now mostly Sport Planes). That is a
> little closer to the facilities and not so far out!
>
> Our tentative plans, weather permitting, will be to depart Mobile,
> AL on Friday, 4/11/08, around daybreak or earlier. Well land at
> Quincy, FL (2J9, just northwest of Tallahassee) for fuel and a
> short break. From there we will fly direct to SNF. Our departure
> from SNF will be Sunday morning, 4/13/08, for the return flight
> back home.
>
> Do we have any other Kitfoxs on the forum that will be flying
> (or driving) to SNF? If so, please share your plans! If your
> route of travel will be taking you through LA (Lower Alabama) we
> will be happy to provide ground transportation for meals, hotels,
> etc (prior to our departure on Friday!).
>
> We fly out of a private strip, 1,800 (not on sectional) that is
> located about 16 miles southeast of Mobile Regional Airport, MOB.
> I will provide GPS coordinates, pictures, etc of our airport for
> anyone that is interested.
>
> Travis
> :D
>
> --------
> Travis Rayner
> Mobile, AL
> Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
> Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
> IFR with Autopilot
> AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=170997#170997
>
>
Maxwell Duke
S6/TD/IO240
Dublin, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? |
For many years I've been following the saga of Zoom Campbell, owner,
editor, publisher of ANN (Aero News Network). Zoom has definitely
created an armload of enemies at SNF, but as in most other cases where
accusations are made, there are always two sides to the stories. Of
course, if it's printed on the Internet in various forums like bloggers,
forums, groups, "email lists", etc., it all has to be true! I'm
definitely not defending him, but one needs to remember to approach
Internet "facts" with a healthy dose of skepticism. One person on a
mission with good keyboard skills can do a pretty good job of vilifying
pretty much anyone, Zoom included. Some people credit him with single
handedly destroying the Revolution helicopter business, but not killing
all those who died in them.
As for the FL tax on airplanes, it sounds to me a bit far fetched, but
there may be some shred of truth in it. More info is needed.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but
progress."
- Joseph Joubert
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: JC Propeller Design
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
Be aware of the owners of ANN versus SNF story, it is long and fun, or
sad story if you want. He is banned from SNF
don't trust everything or anything you read, not even this.
http://www.silverstatenews.com/0_ANN_Rocket_Racing_League/Jim_Campbell_Pa
ge/index.htm
http://www.silverstatenews.com/The_Extremist!/Jim_Campbell_Page/index2.ht
m
http://www.waterworkscase.com/Jim_Campbell's_Misconduct/page8.htm
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.aviation.homebuilt/2006-0
1/msg00858.html
http://eclipseaviationcritic.blogspot.com/2006/09/visions-of-sugar-plums-
dance-in-their.html
----- Original Message -----
From: Donroutledge@aol.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
Guys, The Florida tax plan on airplanes is on Aero News Network on
03/14/2008. You can recover the archive from the location at the bottom
of the page. It is the third article down "Florida Tax Ripoffs... "
Don't fly your airplane to Florida until you read this Don
In a message dated 3/19/2008 6:28:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
GONER752@aol.com writes:
I also receive Aero news network. I can confirm Don's post. I
couldn't believe what I was reading, Crazy nutso,right? But there it was
in electronic black and white. The article went on to say that SNF had
been declining for years and this could be the proverbial stake in the
heart. The article also noted that an inquiry by phone to SNF staff
received less than forthcoming answers. Could this possibly be true? I
checked both AOPA and EAA sites, but could find no substantiating
stories. I guess if I was planning to fly my brand new plane to SNF(I
wish), I'd be digging deeper till I found out for sure. If anyone finds
out if this state revenue generating gone berserk is true, please let
everyone know.
Greg G.
In a message dated 3/19/2008 6:14:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Donroutledge@aol.com writes:
If your going to Fun and Sun and you have owned your aircraft
less than 6 months, the desperate state of Florida can(WILL) TAX you up
to $30,000, YES THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS for just being in Florida. I
just read this on Aero-News Network last week. I went to their archives
so I could tell you exactly when it ran but their web site is down. Here
is an example; If you bought your airplane in Michigan and paid $2500
tax on it, the state of Florida will tax you $30000 and will return
$2500 to you. However, the burden of proof is on you. I don't recall if
$30000 is the top or bottom cap but if you have owned the plane less
than 6 months, and they catch you there, THEY WILL TAX YOU!!!!! Don
Routledge 731 614 3951(real name and phone so you know I am not spamming
you all.)
In a message dated 3/19/2008 3:53:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
lynnmatt@jps.net writes:
<lynnmatt@jps.net>
Ooooh, S'n'F's soundin' better all the time.
I'm planning on the Homebuilt Camping, but according to
Travis, some
Sport Planes are camping in the Ultralight area. So my plans
aren't
fixed just yet, but probably the Homebuilt Camp is a pretty
good bet,
as it's more descriptive of what I've got. Let's get together
off-
list and exchange cell numbers. Remember, I owe you a cigar.
I wonder if they allow for open fires? Gotta bring my tiki
torches
and get busted again. : )
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs
do not archive
On Mar 19, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Marco Menezes wrote:
> Where are you gonna camp Lynn? I'm going to FL for a wedding
in
> Miami and have planned a night in Lakeland and a day at SNF.
Let me
> know where you'll be and I'll look you up, buy you a beer or
3.
>
> do not archive
>
> Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
>
> Count me in, Travis. A friend and I are gonna try it again,
he in a
> C150, and hope to get beyond our shutdown (chicken out)
point of last
> year...Scott County Airport, Tennessee.
> We may not leave until Saturday, the 5th...not sure yet. Oh,
wait,
> you said Friday the 11th! Just for the weekend, eh?
>
> I'm going to S-N-F, but my friend is flying into Zephyrhills
airport
> and getting a car from there. I'll be camping at S-N-F. What
is the
> difference between the two locations that you mentioned as
far as
> camping/distance is concerned?
>
> I wouldn't mind landing in Mobile, AL, as I have yet to land
in
> Alabama, and I need it as part of my tentative 49-state
landing
> goal...eventual landing goal. : )
> Please send info to me at least, Travis...privately, unless
you have
> a big enough demand that warrants list posting.
> Hot damn...I'm gettin' excited!
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/480+ hrs
>
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2008, at 2:11 PM, FlyboyTR wrote:
>
> >
> > Who is going to Sun-N-Fun?
> >
> > We are planning on flying to Sun-N-Fun again this year.
Last year
> > we camped in the Homebuilt Camping area. Not too bad. This
year
> > we are returning to our rootsof many years ago
and land and camp
> > in the Ultralight Area (it is now mostly Sport Planes).
That is a
> > little closer to the facilities and not so far out!
> >
> > Our tentative plans, weather permitting, will be to depart
Mobile,
> > AL on Friday, 4/11/08, around daybreak or earlier.
We=99ll land at
> > Quincy, FL (2J9, just northwest of Tallahassee) for fuel
and a
> > short break. From there we will fly direct to SNF. Our
departure
> > from SNF will be Sunday morning, 4/13/08, for the return
flight
> > back home.
> >
> > Do we have any other Kitfox=99s on the forum that
will be flying
> > (or driving) to SNF? If so, please share your plans! If
your
> > route of travel will be taking you through LA (Lower
Alabama) we
> > will be happy to provide ground transportation for meals,
hotels,
> > etc (prior to our departure on Friday!).
> >
> > We fly out of a private strip, 1,800=99 (not on
sectional) that is
> > located about 16 miles southeast of Mobile Regional
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? |
If I can get by the paperwork, customs, passport, whatever is keeping
a Sport Pilot from going into Canada on the way to Alaska, I'll make
the 49 eventually, but for the 50th, I was thinking of robbing a bank
so I could afford to have my plane shipped to Hawaii and then do a
pattern flight there, then die happy. : )
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs
do not archive
On Mar 19, 2008, at 11:47 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
>
> Lynn:
>
> Take a trip to Hawaii and rent a plane to make it all 50. From
> what I've seen the best way to see the islands is form a small
> plane or even a trike... if you have the nerve.
>
> Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:01 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
>
>
> Count me in, Travis. A friend and I are gonna try it again, he in a
> C150, and hope to get beyond our shutdown (chicken out) point of last
> year...Scott County Airport, Tennessee.
> We may not leave until Saturday, the 5th...not sure yet. Oh, wait,
> you said Friday the 11th! Just for the weekend, eh?
>
> I'm going to S-N-F, but my friend is flying into Zephyrhills airport
> and getting a car from there. I'll be camping at S-N-F. What is the
> difference between the two locations that you mentioned as far as
> camping/distance is concerned?
>
> I wouldn't mind landing in Mobile, AL, as I have yet to land in
> Alabama, and I need it as part of my tentative 49-state landing
> goal...eventual landing goal. : )
> Please send info to me at least, Travis...privately, unless you have
> a big enough demand that warrants list posting.
> Hot damn...I'm gettin' excited!
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/480+ hrs
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2008, at 2:11 PM, FlyboyTR wrote:
>
>> <flyboytr@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> Who is going to Sun-N-Fun?
>>
>> We are planning on flying to Sun-N-Fun again this year. Last year
>> we camped in the Homebuilt Camping area. Not too bad. This year
>> we are returning to our rootsof many years ago and land and camp
>> in the Ultralight Area (it is now mostly Sport Planes). That is a
>> little closer to the facilities and not so far out!
>>
>> Our tentative plans, weather permitting, will be to depart Mobile,
>> AL on Friday, 4/11/08, around daybreak or earlier. Well land at
>> Quincy, FL (2J9, just northwest of Tallahassee) for fuel and a
>> short break. From there we will fly direct to SNF. Our departure
>> from SNF will be Sunday morning, 4/13/08, for the return flight
>> back home.
>>
>> Do we have any other Kitfoxs on the forum that will be flying
>> (or driving) to SNF? If so, please share your plans! If your
>> route of travel will be taking you through LA (Lower Alabama) we
>> will be happy to provide ground transportation for meals, hotels,
>> etc (prior to our departure on Friday!).
>>
>> We fly out of a private strip, 1,800 (not on sectional) that is
>> located about 16 miles southeast of Mobile Regional Airport, MOB.
>> I will provide GPS coordinates, pictures, etc of our airport for
>> anyone that is interested.
>>
>> Travis
>> :D
>>
>> --------
>> Travis Rayner
>> Mobile, AL
>> Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
>> Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
>> IFR with Autopilot
>> AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=170997#170997
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | FL Dept Rev - Sales and Use Tax on Aircraft Owners and Purchasers |
FWIW. As for the $30k tax, I don't think so...
Deke
do not archive
Subject: FL Dept Rev - Sales and Use Tax on Aircraft Owners and Purchasers
http://dor.myflorida.com/dor/taxes/sut_aircraft_owner.html
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 80HP Idle RPM |
Don G
The 100 hp Fadec engine I was talking about can be found at ULPower.com.
It is a new engine of extremely good quality. As mentioned, I thought it was a
Jabaru but it isn't. It was very cold that day at Sebring and neither the
mfg.'s US rep or myself wanted to be outside that day so I wasn't able to spend
as much time as I wanted analyzing the engine, but I was impressed. Check out
the website.Kitplanes wrote an article about it which I downloaded and will
read shortly.
Dick Maddux
Fox4-1200
Pensacola,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: Homebuilders special tailwheel swap |
I'm certainly susceptable of needing correction. Just to get our
semantics right, as I understand it the inner race should have a snug
fit, meaning close tolerance such that it will slide onto the lightly
greased axle shaft with a little resistance. That could be called "a
good push fit" as you say so we may be talking the same difference. :-)
Just to use another term, we don't want a press fit (or interference
fit) however slight. We want the inner bearing races to find their own
centers, so to speak, as the wheel turns. I also agree with "not sloppy
in any way". So the gap I keep mentioning is the close tolerence fit
which in my understanding could allow grease (if injected into the
cavity between the bearings) to work it's way out to attract dirt and
fling onto the plane.
I noticed on my last message that I should have clarified that I have
settled on using the 1/2" I.D. bearing set and will use the off the
shelf reducer bushing cut down to act as an internal spacer (also I
think called a "distance collar"). I could probably leave it out, but it
seems like a good idea for the reason of fool proofing the assembly
against a too tight axle nut. Also removing the zerk would prevent
useless grease injection by someone who didn't know better.
Another thought I might mention in my proposed Wiki entry:
Someone may ask, "Why roller bearings?" I can see in my mind how the
tailwheel will experience some minor and brief side loads which will be
tolerated better by roller bearings as opposed to needle bearings.
Tapered roller bearings would be unnessesary overkill.
It's seems I may write my Wiki entry to include enough concept
information so that I try to impart whatever intuitive mechcanical
understanding I think I have. Maybe that's not the best approach. Too
much information. Probably already. I'll try to shut up about this and
let you all know when the Wiki has been posted for ridicule. Ha HA!
Any comments?
--
Rex Hefferan
SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs
Lynn Matteson wrote:
>
> Thanks, Rex. Good info. But there isn't a gap in mine, and if there
> was, the inner race of the bearing might rotate around the spacer/
> shim, instead of being fixed to the spacer/shim as it should be. The
> inner race-to-shim fit must be a good push fit, not sloppy in any
> way. I hope I'm not misinterpreting you.
>
> Now I have a question for anybody that has ordered the Spruce
> "longlife sealed ball bearings." Did you, Pat? I'm curious about the
> size of the ID of these bearings. Did you still need the shim/spacer,
> or was the ID of these bearings .500" to fit the Maule axle?
> I had ordered the replacement "bearings"...plural...thinking that I
> was getting two bearings, and only one showed up. I was so pissed
> that I went to my local bearing dealer and bought bearings there,
> and returned the one that Spruce sent with a complaint about their
> poor description. Now I'm curious about whether those bearings were a
> direct fit to the Maule axle or not. If they are, there's no need for
> the tubing shim/spacer.
>
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/480+ hrs
>
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| Subject: | sun n fun & "new florida tax"... |
while assessing this rather alarming news, one should know the source, jim
campbell's ANN. if u dont know any history on "zoom" it would worthwhile to
research it a little. he's been in aviation journalism for a long time, a
storied & controversial history, including some pretty severe conflict with
sun n fun (to point as i recall, he was for a time, "banned" by the event
owners. just a small caveat. very interesting story on the "tax". tnx for
alerting the list. john bowman (covering an avid+ from airdale in prairiev
ille, la - between n.o. & b.r.) keep em flying & take care.=0A=0A=0A----- O
riginal Message ----=0AFrom: "Donroutledge@aol.com" <Donroutledge@aol.com>
=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:10:21
PM=0ASubject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?=0A=0A
=0AIf your going to Fun and Sun and you have owned your aircraft less than
6 months, the desperate state of Florida can(WILL) TAX you up to $30,000, Y
ES THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS for just being in Florida. I just read this on A
ero-News Network last week. I went to their archives so I could tell you ex
actly when it ran but their web site is down. Here is an example; If you bo
ught your airplane in Michigan and paid $2500 tax on it, the state of Flori
da will tax you $30000 and will return $2500 to you. However, the burden of
proof is on you. I don't recall if $30000 is the top or bottom cap but if
you have owned the plane less than 6 months, and they catch you there, THEY
WILL TAX YOU!!!!! Don Routledge 731 614 3951(real name and phone so you k
now I am not spamming you all.)=0A =0AIn a message dated 3/19/2008 3:53:38
P.M. Central Daylight Time, lynnmatt@jps.net writes:=0A--> Kitfox-List mess
age posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>=0A=0AOoooh, S'n'F's soundin
' better all the time.=0AI'm planning on the Homebuilt Camping, but accordi
ng to Travis, some =0ASport Planes are camping in the Ultralight area. So
my plans aren't =0Afixed just yet, but probably the Homebuilt Camp is a pr
etty good bet, =0Aas it's more descriptive of what I've got. Let's get tog
ether off- =0Alist and exchange cell numbers. Remember, I owe you a cigar.
=0A=0AI wonder if they allow for open fires? Gotta bring my tiki torches
=0Aand get busted again. : )=0A=0ALynn Matteson=0AGrass Lake, Michigan=0AK
itfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200=0Aflying w/480+ hrs=0Ado not archive=0A
=0A=0AOn Mar 19, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Marco Menezes wrote:=0A=0A> Where are yo
u gonna camp Lynn? I'm going to FL for a wedding in =0A> Miami and have pl
anned a night in Lakeland and a day at SNF. Let me =0A> know where you'll
be and I'll look you up, buy you a beer or 3.=0A>=0A> do not archive=0A>=0A
> Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:=0A> --> Kitfox-List message poste
d by: Lynn Matteson=0A>=0A> Count me in, Travis. A friend and I are gonna t
ry it again, he in a=0A> C150, and hope to get beyond our shutdown (chicken
out) point of last=0A> year...Scott County Airport, Tennessee.=0A> We may
not leave until Saturday, the 5th...not sure yet. Oh, wait,=0A> you said Fr
iday the 11th! Just for the weekend, eh?=0A>=0A> I'm going to S-N-F, but my
friend is flying into Zephyrhills airport=0A> and getting a car from there
. I'll be camping at S-N-F. What is the=0A> difference between the two loca
tions that you mentioned as far as=0A> camping/distance is concerned?=0A>
=0A> I wouldn't mind landing in Mobile, AL, as I have yet to land in=0A> Al
abama, and I need it as part of my tentative 49-state landing=0A> goal...ev
entual landing goal. : )=0A> Please send info to me at least, Travis...priv
ately, unless you have=0A> a big enough demand that warrants list posting.
=0A> Hot damn...I'm gettin' excited!=0A>=0A> Lynn Matteson=0A> Grass Lake,
Michigan=0A> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200=0A> flying w/480+ hrs=0A>=0A
>=0A>=0A> On Mar 19, 2008, at 2:11 PM, FlyboyTR wrote:=0A>=0A> > --> Kitfox
-List message posted by: "FlyboyTR"=0A> >=0A> > Who is going to Sun-N-Fun?
=0A> >=0A> > We are planning on flying to Sun-N-Fun again this year. Last y
ear=0A> > we camped in the Homebuilt Camping area. Not too bad. This year
=0A> > we are returning to our roots=85of many years ago and land and camp
=0A> > in the Ultralight Area (it is now mostly Sport Planes). That is a=0A
> > little closer to the facilities and not so far out!=0A> >=0A> > Our ten
tative plans, weather permitting, will be to depart Mobile,=0A> > AL on Fri
day, 4/11/08, around daybreak or earlier. We=92ll land at=0A> > Quincy, FL
(2J9, just northwest of Tallahassee) for fuel and a=0A> > short break. From
there we will fly direct to SNF. Our departure=0A> > from SNF will be Sund
ay morning, 4/13/08, for the return flight=0A> > back home.=0A> >=0A> > Do
we have any other Kitfox=92s on the forum that will be flying=0A> > (or dri
ving) to SNF? If so, please share your plans! If your=0A> > route of travel
will be taking you through LA (Lower Alabama) we=0A> > will be happy to pr
ovide ground transportation for meals, hotels,=0A> > etc (prior to our depa
rture on Friday!).=0A> >=0A> > We fly out of a private strip, 1,800=92 (not
on sectional) that is=0A> > located about 16 miles southeast of Mobile Reg
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| Subject: | Re: Homebuilders special tailwheel swap |
At 07:46 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:
>Hopefully my description here shows I understand the concept for
>proper wheel bearing assembly. Please, anyone, let me know if it's
>not clear enough as this is practice and preliminary content for the
>instructions to be used for the Wiki page. I will be using photos
>and will add text and arrows to them where it helps.
YEAY! Thanks for setting the good example Rex with regards
to the Wiki page. I had high hopes of contributions myself until I
started getting hammered by my dial-up bandwidth. (One day soon I
hope to enter the 21st century.)
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? |
At 04:24 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote:
>Could this possibly be true? I checked both AOPA and EAA sites, but
>could find no substantiating stories. I guess if I was planning to
>fly my brand new plane to SNF(I wish), I'd be digging deeper till I
>found out for sure. If anyone finds out if this state revenue
>generating gone berserk is true, please let everyone know.
There was a similar panic on the Lancair site recently with
regard to Maine. It generated so much heat the following was posted
by the State of Maine:
(https://maine.gov/revenue/salesuse/usetax/AircraftNotice.html)
"Incomplete and inaccurate information has recently been circulated
on the subject of Maine's use tax as it applies to aircraft purchased
outside of Maine by nonresidents. Stories that have appeared on the
internet have left the impression that Maine law imposes, and that
Maine Revenue Services assesses, a use tax on any out-of-state
aircraft that is flown into Maine. That is not the case. In most
situations, nonresidents flying into Maine do not owe the tax and are
not at risk of being assessed. There are circumstances where a tax
will be due, but that is the exception, not the rule.
<https://maine.gov/revenue/salesuse/usetax/AircraftUseTax.pdf>Click
here for a two-page summary of how the law actually works in this area.
One key thing to remember is that Maine use tax is not even a
possibility unless an aircraft comes into Maine within the first 12
months after its purchase by a nonresident. Also, even if the
aircraft is present in Maine within the first 12 months for purposes
other than repair and maintenance, no Maine use tax is due if a sales
or use tax of 5% or more was paid in another state. Finally, even if
an aircraft is present in Maine within the first 12 months after its
purchase by a nonresident, no use tax is due if the aircraft is here
for no more than 20 days during the 12 months following its purchase,
exclusive of days during which the aircraft is in this State for the
purpose of undergoing "major alterations," "major repairs" or
"preventive maintenance" as those terms are described in FAA regulations.
The bottom line is that nonresidents need to plan carefully only if
they intend to fly into Maine, and spend more than 20 days in Maine,
within one year after the initial purchase of their aircraft and have
not paid a sales or use tax on their aircraft in another state. "
I found the Florida law to be more Draconian, with no
exclusions within the first 6 months. (http://tinyurl.com/3d5b87 )
(2) Purchases Outside Florida.
(a) There shall be a presumption that any aircraft, boat, mobile
home, motor vehicle, or other vehicle purchased in another state,
territory of the United States, or the District of Columbia but
titled, registered, or licensed in this state is taxable except as
otherwise provided in subsection (26) of this rule. This presumption
may be rebutted only by documentary evidence that the person owning
the aircraft, boat, mobile home, or motor vehicle purchased the
aircraft, boat, mobile home, ormotor vehicle in another state,
territory of the United States, or the District of Columbia six (6)
months or more prior to the time it is brought into this state. In
order for such property to be presumed exempt as purchased for use
outside Florida, the person owning the aircraft, boat, mobile home,
motor vehicle, or other vehicle must provide documentary proof that
such propert was used in other states, territories of the United
States, or the District of Columbia for six months or longer under
conditions which would lawfully give rise to the taxing jurisdiction
of another state, territory, or District of Columbia and any lawfully
imposed tax was paid to such state, territory, or District of
Columbia before being imported into this state. However, the rental
or lease of any aircraft, boat, mobile home, or motor vehicle which
is used or stored in this state is taxable without regard to its
prior use or tax paid on the purchase outside this state.
(b) Tax shall apply and be due on any aircraft, boat, mobile
home, motor vehicle, or other vehicle imported or caused to be
imported from a foreign country into this state for use, consumption,
distribution, or storage to be used or consumed in this state. It is
immaterial whether such aircraft, boat, mobile home, motor vehicle,
or other vehicle was used in another country for a period of six
months or more prior to the time it is brought into Florida.
Furthermore, tax paid in another country will not be recognized by
the State of Florida in arriving at the tax due.
(3) Tax Credit for Purchases Outside Florida.
(a) A credit is allowed to a person who as purchaser provides
documentary evidence that a lawfully imposed sales or use tax has
been paid to another state, territory of the United States, or the
District of Columbia on any aircraft, boat, mobile home, motor
vehicle, or other vehicle which later becomes subject to Florida tax.
The credit shall be the amount of legally imposed sales and use tax
paid to another state, territory of the United States, or the
District of Columbia.
What's interesting is that the Florida law allows boats a 20
day exemption, as well as other exemptions for fabrication and
repair, that they don't offer to aircraft. I suspect that the whole
thing violates Federal Law, since the feds frown on restrictions of
interstate commerce and travel. However it would cost you big-bucks
to get the whole thing clarified.
For a summary of Florida use tax law:
http://dor.myflorida.com/dor/taxes/sut_aircraft_owner.html
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? |
Looks like Steve Bennet and I will be a flight of two from South Carolina to SNF
starting early Wed morning.
--------
Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)
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| Subject: | Re: Homebuilders special tailwheel swap |
Where did the notion of roller bearings come from? And for that
matter needle bearings?
When you say ....Someone may ask, "Why roller bearings?" ....This
seems to imply that you are going to mention roller bearings...are you?
In my shadetree engineers mind, ball bearings are the only bearings
suitable for the tailwheel of the Kitfox. As you said tapered
roller...such as those used in the front wheels of cars and trucks
(maybe not in front wheel drive vehicles) are meant to take a higher
side load, and would be overkill.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs
do not archive
On Mar 20, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Rexinator wrote:
> Another thought I might mention in my proposed Wiki entry:
> Someone may ask, "Why roller bearings?" I can see in my mind how
> the tailwheel will experience some minor and brief side loads which
> will be tolerated better by roller bearings as opposed to needle
> bearings. Tapered roller bearings would be unnessesary overkill.
> --
> Rex Hefferan
> SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs
>
>
> Lynn Matteson wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks, Rex. Good info. But there isn't a gap in mine, and if
>> there was, the inner race of the bearing might rotate around the
>> spacer/ shim, instead of being fixed to the spacer/shim as it
>> should be. The inner race-to-shim fit must be a good push fit,
>> not sloppy in any way. I hope I'm not misinterpreting you.
>>
>> Now I have a question for anybody that has ordered the Spruce
>> "longlife sealed ball bearings." Did you, Pat? I'm curious about
>> the size of the ID of these bearings. Did you still need the shim/
>> spacer, or was the ID of these bearings .500" to fit the Maule axle?
>> I had ordered the replacement "bearings"...plural...thinking that
>> I was getting two bearings, and only one showed up. I was so
>> pissed that I went to my local bearing dealer and bought
>> bearings there, and returned the one that Spruce sent with a
>> complaint about their poor description. Now I'm curious about
>> whether those bearings were a direct fit to the Maule axle or
>> not. If they are, there's no need for the tubing shim/spacer.
>>
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Grass Lake, Michigan
>> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
>> flying w/480+ hrs
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Homebuilders special tailwheel swap |
Right. I meant to say Ball bearings. I guess I'm short a ball in my
race. :-) (just made that up)
I'll probably not use that whole dialog.
Rex
Lynn Matteson wrote:
>
> Where did the notion of roller bearings come from? And for that
> matter needle bearings?
> When you say ....Someone may ask, "Why roller bearings?" ....This
> seems to imply that you are going to mention roller bearings...are you?
> In my shadetree engineers mind, ball bearings are the only bearings
> suitable for the tailwheel of the Kitfox. As you said tapered
> roller...such as those used in the front wheels of cars and trucks
> (maybe not in front wheel drive vehicles) are meant to take a higher
> side load, and would be overkill.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/480+ hrs
> do not archive
>
>
> On Mar 20, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Rexinator wrote:
>
>> Another thought I might mention in my proposed Wiki entry:
>> Someone may ask, "Why roller bearings?" I can see in my mind how the
>> tailwheel will experience some minor and brief side loads which will
>> be tolerated better by roller bearings as opposed to needle
>> bearings. Tapered roller bearings would be unnessesary overkill.
>> --
>> Rex Hefferan
>> SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs
>>
>>
>>
>> Lynn Matteson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Rex. Good info. But there isn't a gap in mine, and if
>>> there was, the inner race of the bearing might rotate around the
>>> spacer/ shim, instead of being fixed to the spacer/shim as it
>>> should be. The inner race-to-shim fit must be a good push fit, not
>>> sloppy in any way. I hope I'm not misinterpreting you.
>>>
>>> Now I have a question for anybody that has ordered the Spruce
>>> "longlife sealed ball bearings." Did you, Pat? I'm curious about
>>> the size of the ID of these bearings. Did you still need the shim/
>>> spacer, or was the ID of these bearings .500" to fit the Maule axle?
>>> I had ordered the replacement "bearings"...plural...thinking that
>>> I was getting two bearings, and only one showed up. I was so
>>> pissed that I went to my local bearing dealer and bought bearings
>>> there, and returned the one that Spruce sent with a complaint
>>> about their poor description. Now I'm curious about whether those
>>> bearings were a direct fit to the Maule axle or not. If they are,
>>> there's no need for the tubing shim/spacer.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lynn Matteson
>>> Grass Lake, Michigan
>>> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
>>> flying w/480+ hrs
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Rex Hefferan
SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs
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After takeoff this morning, and while climbing out my 582 had two
momentary engine surges. If I had a belt drive I would have thought the
belt slipped. Any thoughts on what may have caused this. thanks
Don
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| Subject: | Re: engine surge |
Don, The rotax gear boxes have several service letters/bulletins issued to prevent
the cone that connects the crank shaft to the gears from slipping. Those
people that have experienced this report that that the engine seemed to be surging
or slipping. Go to the Rotax owners web site and you can pull up all the
bullitens/letters pertinent to your engine. I will bet your paycheck that you
will find the answer here.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Need measurement |
I think it is about 17 1/2 in. on mine.
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| Subject: | Homebuilders special tailwheel swap |
Lynn, I ordered 2 of the bearings. @ bearing arrived in a seperate plastic
package that could be cut apart but mine were still together. ACS charged $
4.95 for both, not each. I couldn't believe it. The bearings are sealed and
look to be good quality. That is dirt cheap. The bearings still needed a s
him to fit down to the axle diameter. I filed and polished until I got a go
od tight slip fit. I really don't know how much I took off of the bushing O
D, as I didn't mic it before I started.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 REbuild
Rockford, IL > From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Homebuilde
rs special tailwheel swap> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:49:19 -0400> To: kitfo
ynnmatt@jps.net>> > Thanks, Rex. Good info. But there isn't a gap in mine,
and if there > was, the inner race of the bearing might rotate around the s
pacer/ > shim, instead of being fixed to the spacer/shim as it should be. T
he > inner race-to-shim fit must be a good push fit, not sloppy in any > wa
y. I hope I'm not misinterpreting you.> > Now I have a question for anybody
that has ordered the Spruce > "longlife sealed ball bearings." Did you, Pa
t? I'm curious about the > size of the ID of these bearings. Did you still
need the shim/spacer, > or was the ID of these bearings .500" to fit the Ma
ule axle?> I had ordered the replacement "bearings"...plural...thinking tha
t I > was getting two bearings, and only one showed up. I was so pissed > t
hat I went to my local bearing dealer and bought bearings there, > and retu
rned the one that Spruce sent with a complaint about their > poor descripti
on. Now I'm curious about whether those bearings were a > direct fit to the
Maule axle or not. If they are, there's no need for > the tubing shim/spac
er.> > > Lynn Matteson> Grass Lake, Michigan> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru
2200> flying w/480+ hrs> > > > On Mar 19, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Rexinator wrot
>> > Lynn,> > Back from my Bearing shop trip. First I'll answer your quest
ion. By > > "gap" I meant that tiny space between the O.D. of the spacer/sh
im > > and the I.D. of the bearings through which grease would migrate out
> > if the wheel were to be used as designed. In other words; as the > > or
iginal Maule wheel is designed by having a zerk fitting in the > > hub. (Wh
ere grease in injected into the hub, but better bearings > > were used). Si
nce you used sealed bearings the zerk fitting is not > > needed, but left i
n place. I will recommend the zerk fitting be > > replaced with a plug and
will try to source a part for that.> > I plan to replace the existing beari
ngs with the same type as you > > did, but my supplier was able to quote me
a comparable bearing at > > $4 each! I actually showed him the print-out f
rom BocaBearings.com > > and he used the same P/N for the quote. He only ha
d one in stock so > > I'll go back Friday to pick them up. I did look at th
e one he had > > and it looked like the photos. It may be another brand, bu
t should > > be good. I suspect Boca Bearings are over priced. Perhaps some
one > > expert about this subject could comment.> > He also showed me a red
ucer bushing which which does the same thing > > as the spacer you and othe
rs had to make for the 1/2" to 5/8" > > difference of the axle and bearing
I.D. This one was made of a > > rolled steel tube which has a closed seam a
nd is plated. It fits > > easily (perhaps too easily) in the existing cheap
bearings of the > > new wheel, but my application is to cut it to length t
o work as a > > internal spacer. From your text you show understanding of t
his > > method. I will also add appropriate washers as spacers to prevent >
> the nut or opposite axle shoulder from rubbing against the bearing > > s
eal. The intent is to capture the wheel/bearing assembly on the > > axle, n
ot clamp it. Thus with any clamping pressure from improper > > assembly the
axle nut would not place any undue side load on the > > inner races. Since
the axle and nut use a cotter pin the idea is to > > fix the nut at the po
int where minimal side to side play is > > attained. Shims may be used to f
ine tune the play. The axle nut > > (for those not aware) is not to be tigh
tened against the bearing or > > even the spacer.> >> > Hopefully my descri
ption here shows I understand the concept for > > proper wheel bearing asse
mbly. Please, anyone, let me know if it's > > not clear enough as this is p
ractice and preliminary content for > > the instructions to be used for the
Wiki page. I will be using > > photos and will add text and arrows to them
where it helps.> > Thanks in advance.> >> > -- > > Rex Hefferan> > SE Colo
rado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs> >> >> > Lynn Matteson wrote:>
>>> >> Rex-> >> I'm not sure what you meant by "The small gap between the t
ube > >> spacer and inner bearing races"... The way I did it, there is no >
>> small gap. The tube I used is 5/8" OD and 1/2" ID, and is meant > >> to
be used as a "shim" between the size of the shaft...1/2", and > >> the ID
of the bearings that I got, which was 5/8". The bearings > >> that you cite
d are already 1/2" ID, so the tube spacer is not > >> required as a shim or
sleeve. If you are using those Boca > >> bearings that you mentioned, no s
leeve is needed, but maybe you > >> are using it to prevent the inner races
of the two bearings from > >> undo stress or load, if the nut is tightened
too much. That is a > >> good idea. But in that circumstance, there should
be no gap as > >> you mentioned. Am I reading you right?> >> By the way, f
or those that haven't done this Spruce Homebuilder's > >> tailwheel swap, t
he bearings that come...or at least those that > >> came with my tailwheel
from Spruce...are bad news, in that they > >> are rough to the feel when tu
rned, and when my departed bearing > >> guy looked up the load application,
he said they were meant for > >> the speed of a hand truck, or loading dol
ly. And they were Heim > >> bearings....once a good name in bearings and ma
ybe still so, but > >> these particular bearings don't belong in the tailwh
eel of our > >> airplanes. These particular bearings have a sleeve in them
which > >> takes the ID down to 1/2", and when replacing these Heim > >> be
arings, I could find the proper 1.375" OD bearing, but not the . > >> 500"
ID. The only bearing that was available to the bearing > >> dealer that I d
ealt with was the 1.375" ID, but with . 625" ID, > >> hence my use of the s
him/sleeve to make up the difference in > >> diameters between the bearing
ID and axle OD. Then, just to > >> simplify matters, I made the sleeve sort
of become a "diameter- > >> increasing" sleeve for the axle, and slid the
wheel onto it. My > >> nut then bears upon this sleeve, and does not put a
sideways load > >> on the inner race of the bearings. This is what must be
avoided. > >> There can be no sideways load on a normal ball bearing. Some
ball > >> bearings are designed to have a slight load on them, but I don't
> >> think they are in the $18 range for this size bearing.> >>> >> Lynn Ma
tteson> >> Grass Lake, Michigan> >> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200> >> f
========================> _
=============> > >
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| Subject: | Re: FL Dept Rev - Sales and Use Tax on Aircraft Owners and |
Purch...
Thanks for doing the digging, Deke. Although the tax rule doesn't
specifically say so, one must assume this applies to Fla. residents who purchase
an
aircraft, whether in state or out and bring it in. And given what was brought
to
light between SNF and Ed. in chief of ANN, the facts may have been skewed
somewhat, to say the least. I feel a little foolish for even considering it,
although, when it comes to Taxes and the Government, anything's possible.:-)
'nuff said.
Greg G.
do not archive
In a message dated 3/20/2008 8:31:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
fox5flyer@idealwifi.net writes:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
FWIW. As for the $30k tax, I don't think so...
Deke
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Subject: FL Dept Rev - Sales and Use Tax on Aircraft Owners and Purchasers
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| Subject: | Re: FL Dept Rev - Sales and Use Tax on Aircraft Owners and |
Purch...
FL has some weird taxes. I recall a friend who was a snowbird from up
here in MI and wanted to drive down to FL, sell his car, then fly back.
He found out that FL charges a hefty tax for this to dissuade bringing
in out of state cars to sell to the locals. I can't recall the details,
but he ended up flying both ways and renting while there. He said it
was cheaper and was able to drive a nearly brand new car.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but
progress."
- Joseph Joubert
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To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: FL Dept Rev - Sales and Use Tax on Aircraft
Owners and Purch...
Thanks for doing the digging, Deke. Although the tax rule doesn't
specifically say so, one must assume this applies to Fla. residents who
purchase an aircraft, whether in state or out and bring it in. And given
what was brought to light between SNF and Ed. in chief of ANN, the facts
may have been skewed somewhat, to say the least. I feel a little foolish
for even considering it, although, when it comes to Taxes and the
Government, anything's possible.:-) 'nuff said.
Greg G.
do not archive
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fox5flyer@idealwifi.net writes:
<fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
FWIW. As for the $30k tax, I don't think so...
Deke
do not archive
Subject: FL Dept Rev - Sales and Use Tax on Aircraft Owners and
Purchasers
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| Subject: | Re: engine surge |
Engine surge could also be caused by a momentary air leak around the
carbs leading to lean mixture.
On Mar 20, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Don and Dianne Usher wrote:
> After takeoff this morning, and while climbing out my 582 had two
> momentary engine surges. If I had a belt drive I would have thought
> the belt slipped. Any thoughts on what may have caused this. thanks
> Don
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Homebuilders special tailwheel swap |
Well, wonder of wonders, Spruce finally got it right! Or did they?
When I ordered mine, taking the description "bearings" to heart, I
only got one, thinking it should be two, and returned it without
thinking to see if it had a sleeve in it or not.
Good report, Pat, but I think people who order the replacement
bearings should ask if they are going to get one or two bearings.
I seem to be having a problem with getting the "right stuff" from
Spruce....I just received an order which included 6 brass instrument
screws of 6-32 size. I only needed 4, but knowing their penchant for
screwing up, I ordered 2 extras. Guess what? They sent 4 8-32's and
2 6-32's. The proper ones are on the way, after a phone call.
Whenever I order from them, if it's only hardware items, I order
extra, but this time they really screwed the pooch....and I was the
pooch. : )
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs
do not archive
On Mar 20, 2008, at 5:52 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> Lynn, I ordered 2 of the bearings. @ bearing arrived in a seperate
> plastic package that could be cut apart but mine were still
> together. ACS charged $4.95 for both, not each. I couldn't believe
> it. The bearings are sealed and look to be good quality. That is
> dirt cheap. The bearings still needed a shim to fit down to the
> axle diameter. I filed and polished until I got a good tight slip
> fit. I really don't know how much I took off of the bushing OD, as
> I didn't mic it before I started.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 REbuild
> Rockford, IL
>
> > From: lynnmatt@jps.net
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Homebuilders special tailwheel swap
> > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:49:19 -0400
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Rex. Good info. But there isn't a gap in mine, and if there
> > was, the inner race of the bearing might rotate around the spacer/
> > shim, instead of being fixed to the spacer/shim as it should be. The
> > inner race-to-shim fit must be a good push fit, not sloppy in any
> > way. I hope I'm not misinterpreting you.
> >
> > Now I have a question for anybody that has ordered the Spruce
> > "longlife sealed ball bearings." Did you, Pat? I'm curious about the
> > size of the ID of these bearings. Did you still need the shim/
> spacer,
> > or was the ID of these bearings .500" to fit the Maule axle?
> > I had ordered the replacement "bearings"...plural...thinking that I
> > was getting two bearings, and only one showed up. I was so pissed
> > that I went to my local bearing dealer and bought bearings there,
> > and returned the one that Spruce sent with a complaint about their
> > poor description. Now I'm curious about whether those bearings
> were a
> > direct fit to the Maule axle or not. If they are, there's no need
> for
> > the tubing shim/spacer.
> >
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Grass Lake, Michigan
> > Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> > flying w/480+ hrs
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 19, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Rexinator wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Lynn,
> > > Back from my Bearing shop trip. First I'll answer your
> question. By
> > > "gap" I meant that tiny space between the O.D. of the spacer/shim
> > > and the I.D. of the bearings through which grease would migrate
> out
> > > if the wheel were to be used as designed. In other words; as the
> > > original Maule wheel is designed by having a zerk fitting in the
> > > hub. (Where grease in injected into the hub, but better bearings
> > > were used). Since you used sealed bearings the zerk fitting is not
> > > needed, but left in place. I will recommend the zerk fitting be
> > > replaced with a plug and will try to source a part for that.
> > > I plan to replace the existing bearings with the same type as you
> > > did, but my supplier was able to quote me a comparable bearing at
> > > $4 each! I actually showed him the print-out from BocaBearings.com
> > > and he used the same P/N for the quote. He only had one in
> stock so
> > > I'll go back Friday to pick them up. I did look at the one he had
> > > and it looked like the photos. It may be another brand, but should
> > > be good. I suspect Boca Bearings are over priced. Perhaps someone
> > > expert about this subject could comment.
> > > He also showed me a reducer bushing which which does the same
> thing
> > > as the spacer you and others had to make for the 1/2" to 5/8"
> > > difference of the axle and bearing I.D. This one was made of a
> > > rolled steel tube which has a closed seam and is plated. It fits
> > > easily (perhaps too easily) in the existing cheap bearings of the
> > > new wheel, but my application is to cut it to length to work as a
> > > internal spacer. From your text you show understanding of this
> > > method. I will also add appropriate washers as spacers to prevent
> > > the nut or opposite axle shoulder from rubbing against the bearing
> > > seal. The intent is to capture the wheel/bearing assembly on the
> > > axle, not clamp it. Thus with any clamping pressure from improper
> > > assembly the axle nut would not place any undue side load on the
> > > inner races. Since the axle and nut use a cotter pin the idea
> is to
> > > fix the nut at the point where minimal side to side play is
> > > attained. Shims may be used to fine tune the play. The axle nut
> > > (for those not aware) is not to be tightened against the
> bearing or
> > > even the spacer.
> > >
> > > Hopefully my description here shows I understand the concept for
> > > proper wheel bearing assembly. Please, anyone, let me know if it's
> > > not clear enough as this is practice and preliminary content for
> > > the instructions to be used for the Wiki page. I will be using
> > > photos and will add text and arrows to them where it helps.
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rex Hefferan
> > > SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs
> > >
> > >
> > > Lynn Matteson wrote:
> > >
> <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> > >>
> > >> Rex-
> > >> I'm not sure what you meant by "The small gap between the tube
> > >> spacer and inner bearing races"... The way I did it, there is no
> > >> small gap. The tube I used is 5/8" OD and 1/2" ID, and is meant
> > >> to be used as a "shim" between the size of the shaft...1/2", and
> > >> the ID of the bearings that I got, which was 5/8". The bearings
> > >> that you cited are already 1/2" ID, so the tube spacer is not
> > >> required as a shim or sleeve. If you are using those Boca
> > >> bearings that you mentioned, no sleeve is needed, but maybe you
> > >> are using it to prevent the inner races of the two bearings from
> > >> undo stress or load, if the nut is tightened too much. That is a
> > >> good idea. But in that circumstance, there should be no gap as
> > >> you mentioned. Am I reading you right?
> > >> By the way, for those that haven't done this Spruce Homebuilder's
> > >> tailwheel swap, the bearings that come...or at least those that
> > >> came with my tailwheel from Spruce...are bad news, in that they
> > >> are rough to the feel when turned, and when my departed bearing
> > >> guy looked up the load application, he said they were meant for
> > >> the speed of a hand truck, or loading dolly. And they were Heim
> > >> bearings....once a good name in bearings and maybe still so, but
> > >> these particular bearings don't belong in the tailwheel of our
> > >> airplanes. These particular bearings have a sleeve in them which
> > >> takes the ID down to 1/2", and when replacing these Heim
> > >> bearings, I could find the proper 1.375" OD bearing, but not
> the .
> > >> 500" ID. The only bearing that was available to the bearing
> > >> dealer that I dealt with was the 1.375" ID, but with . 625" ID,
> > >> hence my use of the shim/sleeve to make up the difference in
> > >> diameters between the bearing ID and axle OD. Then, just to
> > >> simplify matters, I made the sleeve sort of become a "diameter-
> > >> increasing" sleeve for the axle, and slid the wheel onto it. My
> > >> nut then bears upon this sleeve, and does not put a sideways load
> > >> on the inner race of the bearings. This is what must be avoided.
> > >> There can be no sideways load on a normal ball bearing. Some ball
> > >> bearings are designed to have a slight load on them, but I don't
> > >> think they are in the $18 range for this size bearing.
> > >>
> > >> Lynn Matteson
> > >> Grass Lake, Michigan
> > >> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> > >> flying w/480+ hrs
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > &=====
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: FL Dept Rev - Sales and Use Tax on Aircraft Owners and |
Purch...
Yep, FL instituted the auto import tax while I was still living there
many years ago. Basically an impact fee, Colorado has one too. At that
time sales tax and registration was significantly cheaper than most
other states. In think it may still be true as I was shocked at what
Colorado charges to own a newer vehicle here compared to Forida. About 3
years ago I helped my sister register a car in FL so it was still
similar then.
Just too many cars and people in FL already. Much the same most places
it seems sometimes.
--
Rex Hefferan
SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs
fox5flyer wrote:
> FL has some weird taxes. I recall a friend who was a snowbird from up
> here in MI and wanted to drive down to FL, sell his car, then fly
> back. He found out that FL charges a hefty tax for this to dissuade
> bringing in out of state cars to sell to the locals. I can't recall
> the details, but he ended up flying both ways and renting while
> there. He said it was cheaper and was able to drive a nearly brand
> new car.
> Deke Morisse
> Mikado Michigan
> S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
> "The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but
> progress."
> - Joseph Joubert
>
>
> do not archive
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Anyone know of some instructions for mounting the 912s to the ring mount? FWF
instructions don't seem to cover this part. Need to know what to take off of
the engine to obtain access to the mounting points, shimming if necessary, and
torque values. Also, if needed, where can I get ahold of a shim set?
Thanks!
Wade Greaves
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| Subject: | Re: Need measurement |
Thank you.
--------
Jorge Fernandez
Supersport
Waiting on delivery
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| Subject: | Homebuilders special tailwheel swap |
Lynn, I need some of those 6-32 instrument screws. WHere in the ACS catalog
did you find them? I looked and didn't see them.
Pat> From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Homebuilders special
tailwheel swap> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:29:52 -0400> To: kitfox-list@mat
s.net>> > Well, wonder of wonders, Spruce finally got it right! Or did they
? > When I ordered mine, taking the description "bearings" to heart, I > on
ly got one, thinking it should be two, and returned it without > thinking t
o see if it had a sleeve in it or not.> Good report, Pat, but I think peopl
e who order the replacement > bearings should ask if they are going to get
one or two bearings.> > I seem to be having a problem with getting the "rig
ht stuff" from > Spruce....I just received an order which included 6 brass
instrument > screws of 6-32 size. I only needed 4, but knowing their pencha
nt for > screwing up, I ordered 2 extras. Guess what? They sent 4 8-32's an
d > 2 6-32's. The proper ones are on the way, after a phone call. > Wheneve
r I order from them, if it's only hardware items, I order > extra, but this
time they really screwed the pooch....and I was the > pooch. : )> > Lynn M
atteson> Grass Lake, Michigan> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200> flying w/
480+ hrs> do not archive> > > On Mar 20, 2008, at 5:52 PM, patrick reilly w
rote:> > > Lynn, I ordered 2 of the bearings. @ bearing arrived in a sepera
te > > plastic package that could be cut apart but mine were still > > toge
ther. ACS charged $4.95 for both, not each. I couldn't believe > > it. The
bearings are sealed and look to be good quality. That is > > dirt cheap. Th
e bearings still needed a shim to fit down to the > > axle diameter. I file
d and polished until I got a good tight slip > > fit. I really don't know h
ow much I took off of the bushing OD, as > > I didn't mic it before I start
ed.> >> > Pat Reilly> > Mod 3 REbuild> > Rockford, IL> >> > > From: lynnmat
t@jps.net> > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Homebuilders special tailwheel swa
p> > > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:49:19 -0400> > > To: kitfox-list@matronics
ps.net>> > >> > > Thanks, Rex. Good info. But there isn't a gap in mine, an
d if there> > > was, the inner race of the bearing might rotate around the
spacer/> > > shim, instead of being fixed to the spacer/shim as it should b
e. The> > > inner race-to-shim fit must be a good push fit, not sloppy in a
ny> > > way. I hope I'm not misinterpreting you.> > >> > > Now I have a que
stion for anybody that has ordered the Spruce> > > "longlife sealed ball be
arings." Did you, Pat? I'm curious about the> > > size of the ID of these b
earings. Did you still need the shim/ > > spacer,> > > or was the ID of the
se bearings .500" to fit the Maule axle?> > > I had ordered the replacement
"bearings"...plural...thinking that I> > > was getting two bearings, and o
nly one showed up. I was so pissed> > > that I went to my local bearing dea
ler and bought bearings there,> > > and returned the one that Spruce sent w
ith a complaint about their> > > poor description. Now I'm curious about wh
ether those bearings > > were a> > > direct fit to the Maule axle or not. I
f they are, there's no need > > for> > > the tubing shim/spacer.> > >> > >>
> > Lynn Matteson> > > Grass Lake, Michigan> > > Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jab
iru 2200> > > flying w/480+ hrs> > >> > >> > >> > > On Mar 19, 2008, at 10:
nator <hefferans@gmail.com>> > > >> > > > Lynn,> > > > Back from my Bearing
shop trip. First I'll answer your > > question. By> > > > "gap" I meant th
at tiny space between the O.D. of the spacer/shim> > > > and the I.D. of th
e bearings through which grease would migrate > > out> > > > if the wheel w
ere to be used as designed. In other words; as the> > > > original Maule wh
eel is designed by having a zerk fitting in the> > > > hub. (Where grease i
n injected into the hub, but better bearings> > > > were used). Since you u
sed sealed bearings the zerk fitting is not> > > > needed, but left in plac
e. I will recommend the zerk fitting be> > > > replaced with a plug and wil
l try to source a part for that.> > > > I plan to replace the existing bear
ings with the same type as you> > > > did, but my supplier was able to quot
e me a comparable bearing at> > > > $4 each! I actually showed him the prin
t-out from BocaBearings.com> > > > and he used the same P/N for the quote.
He only had one in > > stock so> > > > I'll go back Friday to pick them up.
I did look at the one he had> > > > and it looked like the photos. It may
be another brand, but should> > > > be good. I suspect Boca Bearings are ov
er priced. Perhaps someone> > > > expert about this subject could comment.>
> > > He also showed me a reducer bushing which which does the same > > th
ing> > > > as the spacer you and others had to make for the 1/2" to 5/8"> >
> > difference of the axle and bearing I.D. This one was made of a> > > >
rolled steel tube which has a closed seam and is plated. It fits> > > > eas
ily (perhaps too easily) in the existing cheap bearings of the> > > > new w
heel, but my application is to cut it to length to work as a> > > > interna
l spacer. From your text you show understanding of this> > > > method. I wi
ll also add appropriate washers as spacers to prevent> > > > the nut or opp
osite axle shoulder from rubbing against the bearing> > > > seal. The inten
t is to capture the wheel/bearing assembly on the> > > > axle, not clamp it
. Thus with any clamping pressure from improper> > > > assembly the axle nu
t would not place any undue side load on the> > > > inner races. Since the
axle and nut use a cotter pin the idea > > is to> > > > fix the nut at the
point where minimal side to side play is> > > > attained. Shims may be used
to fine tune the play. The axle nut> > > > (for those not aware) is not to
be tightened against the > > bearing or> > > > even the spacer.> > > >> >
> > Hopefully my description here shows I understand the concept for> > > >
proper wheel bearing assembly. Please, anyone, let me know if it's> > > >
not clear enough as this is practice and preliminary content for> > > > the
instructions to be used for the Wiki page. I will be using> > > > photos a
nd will add text and arrows to them where it helps.> > > > Thanks in advanc
e.> > > >> > > > --> > > > Rex Hefferan> > > > SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C /
still waiting repairs> > > >> > > >> > > > Lynn Matteson wrote:> > > >> >
>> > > >>> > > >> Rex-> > > >> I'm not sure what you meant by "The small ga
p between the tube> > > >> spacer and inner bearing races"... The way I did
it, there is no> > > >> small gap. The tube I used is 5/8" OD and 1/2" ID,
and is meant> > > >> to be used as a "shim" between the size of the shaft.
..1/2", and> > > >> the ID of the bearings that I got, which was 5/8". The
bearings> > > >> that you cited are already 1/2" ID, so the tube spacer is
not> > > >> required as a shim or sleeve. If you are using those Boca> > >
>> bearings that you mentioned, no sleeve is needed, but maybe you> > > >>
are using it to prevent the inner races of the two bearings from> > > >> un
do stress or load, if the nut is tightened too much. That is a> > > >> good
idea. But in that circumstance, there should be no gap as> > > >> you ment
ioned. Am I reading you right?> > > >> By the way, for those that haven't d
one this Spruce Homebuilder's> > > >> tailwheel swap, the bearings that com
e...or at least those that> > > >> came with my tailwheel from Spruce...are
bad news, in that they> > > >> are rough to the feel when turned, and when
my departed bearing> > > >> guy looked up the load application, he said th
ey were meant for> > > >> the speed of a hand truck, or loading dolly. And
they were Heim> > > >> bearings....once a good name in bearings and maybe s
till so, but> > > >> these particular bearings don't belong in the tailwhee
l of our> > > >> airplanes. These particular bearings have a sleeve in them
which> > > >> takes the ID down to 1/2", and when replacing these Heim> >
> >> bearings, I could find the proper 1.375" OD bearing, but not > > the .
> > > >> 500" ID. The only bearing that was available to the bearing> > > >
> dealer that I dealt with was the 1.375" ID, but with . 625" ID,> > > >> h
ence my use of the shim/sleeve to make up the difference in> > > >> diamete
rs between the bearing ID and axle OD. Then, just to> > > >> simplify matte
rs, I made the sleeve sort of become a "diameter-> > > >> increasing" sleev
e for the axle, and slid the wheel onto it. My> > > >> nut then bears upon
this sleeve, and does not put a sideways load> > > >> on the inner race of
the bearings. This is what must be avoided.> > > >> There can be no sideway
s load on a normal ball bearing. Some ball> > > >> bearings are designed to
have a slight load on them, but I don't> > > >> think they are in the $18
range for this size bearing.> > > >>> > > >> Lynn Matteson> > > >> Grass La
ke, Michigan> > > >> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200> > > >> flying w/480
+ hrs> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > &======> > >> > >> > >>
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