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1. 12:35 AM - Re: Sky King.... (rudderdancer)
2. 04:17 AM - Re: Flaperons with Vortex Generators How about this Guy Buchanan (dave)
3. 06:03 AM - Re: FL Dept Rev - Sales and Use Tax on Aircraft Owners and Purch.. (Catz631@aol.com)
4. 07:32 AM - King Fox Tires (steve shinabery)
5. 07:51 AM - Re: Intercom (Marco Menezes)
6. 08:20 AM - Re: Intercom (patrick reilly)
7. 11:49 AM - Re: Re: cowling camloc (RAY Gignac)
8. 01:18 PM - Re: King Fox Tires (akflyer)
9. 02:17 PM - aerocet 1000 amphibs (vetdrem)
10. 02:19 PM - Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs (vetdrem)
11. 04:03 PM - Re: OT- Re: Sky King.... (Noel Loveys)
12. 04:05 PM - Re: Onus or Otis? (Noel Loveys)
13. 05:45 PM - Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs (dave)
14. 05:46 PM - Re: King Fox Tires (dave)
15. 06:08 PM - Re: Re: Sky King.... (Guy Buchanan)
16. 06:45 PM - Re: Re: King Fox Tires (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
17. 07:40 PM - Re: Intercom (Andy Fultz)
18. 08:06 PM - Re: Re: King Fox Tires (Summers, Mark)
19. 08:40 PM - Tachometer (SkySteve)
20. 08:47 PM - Re: King Fox Tires (eskflyer)
21. 09:18 PM - Re: Tachometer (SUE MICHAELS)
22. 09:46 PM - Re: Intercom (patrick reilly)
23. 10:48 PM - Warp drive size? (wadegreaves)
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| Subject: | Re: Sky King.... |
Hi Lynn,
I know we're not suppose to continue the Sky King thread, but your mention of the
"High Flight" sign-off, which was cool, especially with the various fighters
of previous years, caused an idea to form. How about a "Low Flight" sign-off
with a Kitfox? (with apologies to John Magee)
Woah! I have skipped the dusty roads of earth
And danced the treetops on lightly-silvered wings;
Cloudward I've climbed, and joined the winging birds
below sun-split clouds - and done a few things
You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung
Low in the sunlit pastures. Hov'ring there
I've chased the mooing cow along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up and down the fields, rivers, lakes,
I've topped the windswept bushes with easy grace
Where every lark, or even sparrow flew -
And, while with silent giddy mind I've trod
The low oft tresspassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.
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Kitfox II, 582, Tundra Tires,
rusty pilot.
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperons with Vortex Generators How about this Guy Buchanan |
I put on Vgs last fall, really not alot of gain but I have not taken them off
yet . I have on Wings only. I will tell you that they have reduced the buffet
prior to power on stalls and made power off stalls pretty well just a controlled
mush.
Kitfox is pretty well equipped with stock wings, VGs ok but not nesessary for great
STOL performance.
You guys should get some videos of your Kitfox in Action no matter if a 100 foot
take off or 700 foot like some of the heavy ones.
VGs http://www.cfisher.com/vg.html
Videos on Skis with VGs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H6fr1d4m5A
VGs to reduce Coolant temps http://www.cfisher.com/cowl.html
Another VG video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itqyBYxU0lU
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Re: FL Dept Rev - Sales and Use Tax on Aircraft Owners and |
Purch..
You know this thing has gotten a little out of hand. I live in Pensacola Fl
and bought my Kitfox in November. I trailered it in from Mass. and paid the
sales tax to Fl on my purchase price of $30000. (that hurt)
The tax, like most other states, is on aircraft,boats,etc that are based in
the state. Up in this area, a lot of people go to Alabama, buy their stuff and
come back to Fl where they live. Alabama charges very little if any tax for
anything.(maybe that might be part of the reason they got the Air Force tanker
contract ?)
Anyway, Florida had only one guy in the tax dept. that handled aviation.
His name was Bo but he recently retired so another guy took over (no, his name
is not Bubba) I talked with him directly when I paid my taxes. Nice guy but of
course, pay up so as to avoid penalties.
If you live and are based in Michigan, as an example, and come to Sun and
Fun don't expect to get a tax bill. Now if you base your aircraft here (had a
condo or something) and decided to buy a new airplane in another state to avoid
paying Fl sales taxes, now that is another story.
Now with all this said, I am not a fan of any tax, but after the state of
California drug me into court to pay sales tax on another aircraft and the only
way I got out of it was because I was in the military (years ago), I pay up.
It isn't worth the lawyers,etc.to avoid paying the correct tax.
Bottom line, enjoy sun and fun.
Dick Maddux
Fox4-1200
Pensacola,Fl
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How does the King Fox Tires hold up to runway use??I have the tires,and
the rims are comming from Matco..so I am wondering how they will hold
up.on runway use.STEVE SHINABERY N554KF KF2
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Pat,
Rather that an intercom, I installed a Micro-Air M720 radio with side-tone that
serves as an intercom. The unit is tiny, fits into a 2" hole and works great.
The only disadvantage is that with the side-tone, the intercom mic is always
"hot" can result in alot of background noise. To counter this I have a toggle
switch to turn the intercom off/on. I advise passengers, "if you have to talk
to me, flip this switch." Keeps the chit-chat down.
Pat Reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com> wrote:
Kitfoxers, I am rebuilding a Mod 3 with a 582 Rotax engine and want to
know what panel mounted intercom to install. I will be using an Icom A200 radio
if that makes any difference. I am concerned about high noise level and squelech
ability. What one should I use? Anybody out there have a good used one
for sale?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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Marco, Thanks for the info. I am still selecting intercoms to match up with
my Icom IC-A200. Are you the Kitfoxer located in Puerto Rico?
Do not archive
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
itfox-List: IntercomTo: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Pat,
Rather that an intercom, I installed a Micro-Air M720 radio with side-tone
that serves as an intercom. The unit is tiny, fits into a 2" hole and works
great. The only disadvantage is that with the side-tone, the intercom mic
is always "hot" can result in alot of background noise. To counter this I h
ave a toggle switch to turn the intercom off/on. I advise passengers, "if y
ou have to talk to me, flip this switch." Keeps the chit-chat down.Pat Reil
ly <patreilly43@hotmail.com> wrote:
Kitfoxers, I am rebuilding a Mod 3 with a 582 Rotax engine and want to know
what panel mounted intercom to install. I will be using an Icom A200 radio
if that makes any difference. I am concerned about high
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| Subject: | Re: cowling camloc |
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| Subject: | Re: King Fox Tires |
we flew the KF tires off black top quite a bit this spring and summer with no noticeable
wear. We ran them at 6-8 PSI with no issues. For true hardcore off
airport flying you need to be able to get them down to 2-3 PSI to soak up the
bumps / rocks.
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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| Subject: | aerocet 1000 amphibs |
I bought a set of used aerocet amphibs for my model 3, and I'm getting them ready
to install. During this process, I realized that the brake calipers are mounted
on the left side of the wheel for both mains. Is this the correct way
to install them, or was something installed incorrectly? I also am in need of
the fuselage brace that is needed for the model 3 but not needed for later models.
If anyone has one, or even a picture and can tell me what to make it out
of, let me know.
Thanks,
Louie
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| Subject: | Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs |
of course I blew it in the title, they are actually 1100's
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| Subject: | Re: OT- Re: Sky King.... |
Funny thing: Being a photographer you may have noticed this. I looked
through a catalogue of the flags of the world... there are several tri
colours...France, Germany, the Vatican etc. There are several what I call
geometric designs... Japan, Canada, Newfoundland. But there are two flags
that stand out strictly form a design point. These flags are easily
recognizable even if the colours were completely washed out. They are the
Union Jack and the U.S. Flag. I find it interesting that Englishmen,
separated by a little scuffle in the mid 18th century, were behind the
design of both flags.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: OT- Re: Sky King....
Once upon a time at a Nascar race here in Michigan, they were playing
our National Anthem, followed by "O, Canada", (because Canada is
close-by) and I made the remark "I think I like the sound of O Canada
better than I do our Anthem"....man, you'da thought I set fire to our
flag! A couple of my veteran buddies climbed all over me. I told them
all I meant was the tune, not what it stood for...sheeesh!
Lynn
do not archive
On Mar 21, 2008, at 6:10 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
> Back in the fifties our TV station played, "The Ode to
> Newfoundland", our national anthem before confederation, followed
> by O' Canada. We still are proud of the fact we are the only part
> of Canada that was it's own dominion before confederation.
>
>
> Since the late sixties our private station has been 24 hr with very
> few shutdowns.
>
>
> Do not archive.
>
>
> Noel
>
>
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 84KF
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 6:59 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Sky King....
>
>
> "The channels signed off at midnight and posted a "test pattern". "
>
>
> Right after they played the "Star Spangled Banner"..... Bring back
> memories??
>
>
> ....and as far as Roy Rogers.....
>
>
> Happy Trails...
>
>
> steve benesh
>
> KF5 012UL
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-Listhttp://
> forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List_-
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Reminds me of the French language test they have in Quebec... Apparently
there are Franco phones from France who flunked the test.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Onus or Otis?
No problem, John, and just to show how the English language is all
messed up, take this example:
If you take your sentence below...."Here's a URL".....and mentally
said the word URL as "earl" then the word "an" should have preceded
it, as in "here's an earl" , but if you say each letter of the
acronym "URL" individually, then the sentence needs the word/letter
"a" proceeding the "you" "are" "ell", as in "Here's a you-are-ell"
It's no wonder that this language that we speak is so convoluted and
hard to learn.
Do you suppose that the extra year extension of this requirement will
see millions of us running to get educated so as to meet that
requirement? : )
Lynn
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On Mar 18, 2008, at 6:18 PM, John W. Hart wrote:
> <helili@chahtatushka.net>
>
> Lynn,
> Here's a URL
> (http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/
> english_profi
> ciency/) that says, "The ability to read, speak, write, and understand
> English is already a U.S. regulatory eligibility requirement." To
> operate
> internationally with a US pilot certificate of Private, Commercial,
> or ATP,
> beginning March 5, 2008 we now are required to have that "English
> proficient" endorsement on our pilot certificates. The US has filed a
> difference with ICAO to extend that requirement to March 5, 2009.
>
> I just threw this in for humor, and to show the irony that exists in
> aviation. It is not meant to nitpick or sharpshoot.
> John Hart
> Wilburton, OK
> Model IV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn
> Matteson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:37 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Onus or Otis?
>
>
> If I only had a nickel for every time I had to bite my tongue over
> some of the wording, misspelling, punctuation, etc., of some of the
> posts I've read here, and I know I've added a few myself. Sometimes I
> wonder how some of us got to be pilots...thank God the knowledge test
> didn't require proper English, or writing skills. Wait a
> minute....maybe if it did, they'd weed out a few more pilots. : )
>
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/480+ hrs
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs |
> During this process, I realized that the brake calipers are mounted on the left
side of the wheel for both mains. Is this the correct way to install them,
or was something installed incorrectly?
Yes this is correct. Also check both trailing arms and all SS parts for cracks
or fatigue. They will bend and crack in time. good design but poor strength with
the SS used. If you operate off grass strips and use seaplane ramps expect
more repairs but they still quite usable. I have them on mine and they are
a very aerodynamic float.
I have a IV so I have no idea on the fuselage brace you mention.
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Re: King Fox Tires |
King fox tires seem ok to me for the 1/2 dozen times that i landed at a International
Airport.
Sand ,snow,, mud and water show no wear :)
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Sky King.... |
At 12:32 AM 3/22/2008, you wrote:
>And, while with silent giddy mind I've trod
>The low oft tresspassed sanctity of space,
>Put out my hand and touched the face of God.
Is it Henry?
Please put your full name in your signature so you can get
full credit. Yes the Sky King thread was dead but your's was an
excellent "Kitfox related" post. Nice job.
Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: King Fox Tires |
Timely posts. A friend stopped by today and saw my King Fox tires and now has
"tire envy". Does anyone know where they can now be purchased?
John Kerr
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From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
>
> King fox tires seem ok to me for the 1/2 dozen times that i landed at a
> International Airport.
>
> Sand ,snow,, mud and water show no wear :)
>
> --------
> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
> Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
> http://www.cfisher.com/
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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Pat,
I have no idea what the trade difference might be but Icom has a newer
version of your radio that has several new bells and whistles. Among them
is a built in voice activated intercom and dual watch. I think it's the
IC-A210. NO new holes needed in the panel.
Andy F.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of patrick reilly
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 10:18 AM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Intercom
Marco, Thanks for the info. I am still selecting intercoms to match up
with my Icom IC-A200. Are you the Kitfoxer located in Puerto Rico?
Do not archive
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 07:42:13 -0700
From: msm_9949@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Intercom
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Pat,
Rather that an intercom, I installed a Micro-Air M720 radio with
side-tone that serves as an intercom. The unit is tiny, fits into a 2" hole
and works great. The only disadvantage is that with the side-tone, the
intercom mic is always "hot" can result in alot of background noise. To
counter this I have a toggle switch to turn the intercom off/on. I advise
passengers, "if you have to talk to me, flip this switch." Keeps the
chit-chat down.
Pat Reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com> wrote:
Kitfoxers, I am rebuilding a Mod 3 with a 582 Rotax engine and want to
know what panel mounted intercom to install. I will be using an Icom A200
radio if that makes any difference. I am concerned about high
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| Subject: | Re: King Fox Tires |
Do you use inner tubes to run that low pressure?
Thanks Mark Summers
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of akflyer
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 3:15 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: King Fox Tires
we flew the KF tires off black top quite a bit this spring and summer
with no noticeable wear. We ran them at 6-8 PSI with no issues. For
true hardcore off airport flying you need to be able to get them down to
2-3 PSI to soak up the bumps / rocks.
--------
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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Found out today my tach is not accurate and will need to be replaced as it cannot
be adjusted (through the hole in the back) far enough. It is the 2 1/4" Rotax
tach.
What tach do you guys use for the Rotrax 912 (80hp) that fits the 2 1/4" panel
hole? What do you like about yours? What do you dislike about yours? Where
did you get yours?
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Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox I-IV 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertable Nosewheel & Tailwheel
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| Subject: | Re: King Fox Tires |
http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/nankang_atv/NK%20N800.jpg
Nankang makes them gee the price is quite low also only 27.95 plus shipping .
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FLY FUN FLY LOW FLY SLOW
John Perry
Kitfox 2 N718PD
582 cbox 2:62-1 IVO IFA
Leni's FULL-LOTUS floats on MY plane forever
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Had a UMA 2 1/4" worked okay. Now have EFIS. Not sure of the best price but Aircraft
Spruce has traditional looking UMA for 912 $112.00 or lighted $132.00.
----- Original Message ----
From: SkySteve <Wilson@REinfo.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:37:26 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tachometer
Found out today my tach is not accurate and will need to be replaced as it cannot
be adjusted (through the hole in the back) far enough. It is the 2 1/4" Rotax
tach.
What tach do you guys use for the Rotrax 912 (80hp) that fits the 2 1/4" panel
hole? What do you like about yours? What do you dislike about yours? Where
did you get yours?
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Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox I-IV 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertable Nosewheel & Tailwheel
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From: andynfultz@bellsouth.netTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Kit
fox-List: IntercomDate: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:37:51 -0500
Pat,
I have no idea what the trade difference might be but Icom has a newer ve
rsion of your radio that has several new bells and whistles. Among them is
a built in voice activated intercom and dual watch. I think it's the IC-A2
10. NO new holes needed in the panel.
Andy F.
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Saturday, March 22, 2008 10:18 AMTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: RE:
Kitfox-List: IntercomMarco, Thanks for the info. I am still selecting inte
rcoms to match up with my Icom IC-A200. Are you the Kitfoxer located in Pu
erto Rico? Do not archive Pat ReillyMod 3 RebuildRockford, IL
itfox-List: IntercomTo: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Pat,
Rather that an intercom, I installed a Micro-Air M720 radio with side-tone
that serves as an intercom. The unit is tiny, fits into a 2" hole and works
great. The only disadvantage is that with the side-tone, the intercom mic
is always "hot" can result in alot of background noise. To counter this I h
ave a toggle switch to turn the intercom off/on. I advise passengers, "if y
ou have to talk to me, flip this switch." Keeps the chit-chat down.Pat Reil
ly <patreilly43@hotmail.com> wrote:
Kitfoxers, I am rebuilding a Mod 3 with a 582 Rotax engine and want to know
what panel mounted intercom to install. I will be using an Icom A200 radio
if that makes any difference. I am concerned about high
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less than a new one so that's the way I went. I doubt if you will find a us
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| Subject: | Warp drive size? |
Simple question:
What's best on a Series 7 with a 912s?
70" or 72"?
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