Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Sun 03/23/08


Total Messages Posted: 50



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     1. 05:11 AM - Re: Warp drive size? (JC Propeller Design)
     2. 06:21 AM - Re: King Fox Tires (Catz631@aol.com)
     3. 06:39 AM - Re: King Fox Tires (EWadsworth@aol.com)
     4. 06:39 AM - Re: King Fox Tires (dave)
     5. 06:44 AM - Re: King Fox Tires (dave)
     6. 06:46 AM - Re: King Fox Tires (dave)
     7. 06:47 AM - Re: King Fox Tires (dave)
     8. 07:16 AM - Re: King Fox Tires (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
     9. 07:29 AM - Re: Re: Flaperons with Vortex Generators How about this Guy Buchanan (Robert Harris)
    10. 07:56 AM - Re: King Fox Tires (akflyer)
    11. 08:07 AM - Re: King Fox Tires (steve shinabery)
    12. 08:24 AM - Re: King Fox Tires (akflyer)
    13. 08:26 AM - Re: Flaperons with Vortex Generators How about this Guy Buchanan (akflyer)
    14. 08:51 AM - Re: King Fox Tires (eskflyer)
    15. 08:51 AM - Re: Re: King Fox Tires (steve shinabery)
    16. 08:54 AM - Re: Flaperons with Vortex Generators How about this Guy Buchanan (dave)
    17. 09:42 AM - Re: King Fox Tires (dave)
    18. 09:42 AM - Re: King Fox Tires (akflyer)
    19. 10:40 AM - electric flaps (kitfoxjim)
    20. 11:24 AM - Re: Intercom (Marco Menezes)
    21. 11:50 AM - Thanks to All (Jimmie Blackwell)
    22. 01:17 PM - Re: Warp drive size? (dcsfoto)
    23. 02:41 PM - Re: Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs (Noel Loveys)
    24. 02:58 PM - Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs (vetdrem)
    25. 03:12 PM - Re: Re: Flaperons with Vortex Generators How about this Guy Buchanan (Clint Bazzill)
    26. 03:18 PM - Re: Tachometer (Clint Bazzill)
    27. 03:48 PM - Re: Tachometer (fox5flyer)
    28. 04:30 PM - Re: Tachometer (paul wilson)
    29. 04:52 PM - Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs (dave)
    30. 04:53 PM - Re: Flaperons with Vortex Generators How about this Guy Buchana (akflyer)
    31. 04:54 PM - Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs (dave)
    32. 04:57 PM - Re: Tachometer (akflyer)
    33. 05:01 PM - Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs (dave)
    34. 05:03 PM - Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs (dave)
    35. 05:16 PM - first flight (Eric)
    36. 05:38 PM - Re: Re: engine surge (Marco Menezes)
    37. 05:39 PM - Re: Thanks to All (Marco Menezes)
    38. 05:40 PM - Re: first flight (RAY Gignac)
    39. 06:04 PM - Re: Re: Tachometer (84KF)
    40. 06:40 PM - Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs (vetdrem)
    41. 06:51 PM - Re: first flight (Eric)
    42. 07:23 PM - Re: Tachometer (akflyer)
    43. 07:40 PM - Re: Warp drive size? (SUE MICHAELS)
    44. 07:50 PM - Re: Re: Tachometer (84KF)
    45. 08:16 PM - Re: Tachometer (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
    46. 08:25 PM - Re: Re: Tachometer (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
    47. 08:29 PM - Re: Warp drive size? (vetdrem)
    48. 09:12 PM - Re: first flight (jeff puls)
    49. 09:53 PM - Inspecting Spars & Struts (tinnemaha)
    50. 10:16 PM - Plane washinng? (Frank Miles)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:11:31 AM PST US
    From: "JC Propeller Design" <propellerdesign@tele2.se>
    Subject: Re: Warp drive size?
    Top speed? Gear ratio? Nr of blades? Desire? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "wadegreaves" <reinagreaves@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:45 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Warp drive size? > <reinagreaves@comcast.net> > > Simple question: > What's best on a Series 7 with a 912s? > 70" or 72"? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171881#171881 > > > __________ NOD32 2838 (20080131) Information __________ > > >


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    Time: 06:21:57 AM PST US
    From: Catz631@aol.com
    Subject: Re: King Fox Tires
    Where can you get King Fox tires.I keep reading about them and I am looking for a set of Tundra tires to replace my original shaved ATV tires which are on my original chrome wheels.I think the size of my tires is 20 x 8 x7 and the wheels are one piece. Any ideas would sure be appreciated ! Dick Maddux Fox 4-1200 Pensacola,Fl **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)


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    Time: 06:39:08 AM PST US
    From: EWadsworth@aol.com
    Subject: Re: King Fox Tires
    The last I knew Dave had them. Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ In a message dated 3/23/2008 9:24:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Catz631@aol.com writes: Where can you get King Fox tires.I keep reading about them and I am looking for a set of Tundra tires to replace my original shaved ATV tires which are on my original chrome wheels.I think the size of my tires is 20 x 8 x7 and the wheels are one piece. Any ideas would sure be appreciated ! Dick Maddux Fox 4-1200 Pensacola,Fl ____________________________________ Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. _Watch the video on AOL Home_ (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom0003000000000 1) . **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)


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    Time: 06:39:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: King Fox Tires
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    I got a truck load of them from Kevin at Mippi. All sold out now for 40$ each. Awesome tires. http://www.cfisher.com/kingfox.html -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171920#171920 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture_026_127.jpg


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    Time: 06:44:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: King Fox Tires
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Tires leave virtually no foot print on the beach. This pic is taken 23 miles off the mainland in Lake Erie at tip of Long Point . -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171924#171924 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1020721_112.jpg


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    Time: 06:46:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: King Fox Tires
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    to show you how far out on Lake Erie we were look in background Pics taken by Gary Walsh from his Kitfox Amphib -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171925#171925 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1020723_134.jpg


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    Time: 06:47:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: King Fox Tires
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Here is Gary in the Cold water a few weeks after Ice out last year -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171926#171926 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture_021_245.jpg


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    Time: 07:16:48 AM PST US
    From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk <thesupe@hotmail.com>
    Subject: King Fox Tires
    Go to http://www.tiresunlimited.com look at the nankang ATV tires. Last one shown if I remember right. Jim Chuk Avids Mn From: Catz631@aol.comDate: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:18:49 -0400Subject: Re: Kitf ox-List: King Fox TiresTo: kitfox-list@matronics.com Where can you get King Fox tires.I keep reading about them and I am looking for a set of Tundra tires to replace my original shaved ATV tires which ar e on my original chrome wheels.I think the size of my tires is 20 x 8 x7 an d the wheels are one piece. Any ideas would sure be appreciated ! Dick Maddux Fox 4-1200 Pensacola,Fl Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. _________________________________________________________________ Test your Star IQ http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_HMTAGMAR


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    Time: 07:29:58 AM PST US
    From: Robert Harris <kitfox_robert@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Flaperons with Vortex Generators How about this Guy
    Buchanan Dave these are great video's. Is the Fox on skies a model II? I love it. Robert ----- Original Message ---- From: dave <dave@cfisher.com> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:14:07 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Flaperons with Vortex Generators How about this Guy Buchanan I put on Vgs last fall, really not alot of gain but I have not taken them off yet . I have on Wings only. I will tell you that they have reduced the buffet prior to power on stalls and made power off stalls pretty well just a controlled mush. Kitfox is pretty well equipped with stock wings, VGs ok but not nesessary for great STOL performance. You guys should get some videos of your Kitfox in Action no matter if a 100 foot take off or 700 foot like some of the heavy ones. VGs http://www.cfisher.com/vg.html Videos on Skis with VGs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H6fr1d4m5A VGs to reduce Coolant temps http://www.cfisher.com/cowl.html Another VG video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itqyBYxU0lU -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171675#171675 Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs


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    Time: 07:56:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: King Fox Tires
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    [quote="Catz631(at)aol.com"]Where can you get King Fox tires.I keep reading about them and I am looking for a set of Tundra tires to replace my original shaved ATV tires which are on my original chrome wheels.I think the size of my tires is 20 x 8 x7 and the wheels are one piece. Any ideas would sure be appreciated ! ? ? ? ? Dick Maddux ? ? ? ? Fox 4-1200 ? ? ? ? Pensacola,Fl [quote] Dick, A buddy bought these tires and side by side with the king fox they are identical, except they dont say king fox on them. The mold lines and little rubber tits are in the exact same places as the KF tires. http://www.tiresunlimited.com/nankang_atv_tires.htm you want the N800 at the bottom of the list. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171939#171939


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    Time: 08:07:55 AM PST US
    From: steve shinabery <shinco@bright.net>
    Subject: Re: King Fox Tires
    Catz631@aol.com wrote: > Where can you get King Fox tires.I keep reading about them and I am > looking for a set of Tundra tires to replace my original shaved ATV > tires which are on my original chrome wheels.I think the size of my > tires is 20 x 8 x7 and the wheels are one piece. Any ideas would sure > be appreciated ! > Dick Maddux > Fox 4-1200 > Pensacola,Fl > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home > <http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001>. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Checked by AVG. > Got my tires from Dave Fisher,and rims comming from Matco mfg.com....rims were $622.26.for bothPlus S+H..I have a KF2..matco part no you need 2 qt. MHMHE8B.75-8" Wheel+Break,E SERIES .I hope this will help you.I went through a lot of searching to find this set up.MY rims are on the way should be here soon...STEVE SHINABERY N554KF KF2 little 582


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    Time: 08:24:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: King Fox Tires
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    shinco(at)bright.net wrote: > Catz631@aol.com wrote: > > > Where can you get King Fox tires.I keep reading about them and I am > > looking for a set of Tundra tires to replace my original shaved ATV > > tires which are on my original chrome wheels.I think the size of my > > tires is 20 x 8 x7 and the wheels are one piece. Any ideas would sure > > be appreciated ! > > Dick Maddux > > Fox 4-1200 > > Pensacola,Fl > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home > > . > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Checked by AVG. > > > > Got my tires from Dave Fisher,and rims comming from Matco > > > > mfg.com....rims were $622.26.for bothPlus S+H..I have a KF2..matco part > no you need 2 qt. MHMHE8B.75-8" Wheel+Break,E SERIES .I hope this > will help you.I went through a lot of searching to find this set up.MY > rims are on the way should be here soon...STEVE SHINABERY N554KF KF2 > little 582 Steve, it is alot cheaper to go with the original KF hubs and Douglas 8" wheels. I found hubs for about 40.00 each, a set of hubs for 50.00 and used the brakes from the original Matco Wheels. You just have to get little lugs welded to the wheels to bolt the brakes on. All up with tires I have less than 300 into them. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171947#171947


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    Time: 08:26:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flaperons with Vortex Generators How about this Guy Buchanan
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    are you talking about actually putting the VGs on the flaperons in addition to putting them on the wings? I wonder if that would do anything to help the control reversal? -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171948#171948


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    Time: 08:51:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: King Fox Tires
    From: "eskflyer" <eskflyer@yahoo.com>
    King fox tires are the same as the NANKANG N 800 tires . and Nankang are only 27.95 each versus what what some others were charging much more. FOR THE PEOPLE WHO KEEP ASKING WHERE CAN I GET KINGFOX TIRES READ THE POSTS ABOUT THEM AND YOU WILL SEE THE ANSWER HAS BEEN GIVEN ALREADY. www.tiresunlimited.com nankang n800 tires slicks -------- FLY FUN FLY LOW FLY SLOW John Perry Kitfox 2 N718PD 582 cbox 2:62-1 IVO IFA 1220 Full Lotus Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171956#171956


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    Time: 08:51:30 AM PST US
    From: steve shinabery <shinco@bright.net>
    Subject: Re: King Fox Tires
    akflyer wrote: > > > shinco(at)bright.net wrote: > >> Catz631@aol.com wrote: >> >> >>> Where can you get King Fox tires.I keep reading about them and I am >>> looking for a set of Tundra tires to replace my original shaved ATV >>> tires which are on my original chrome wheels.I think the size of my >>> tires is 20 x 8 x7 and the wheels are one piece. Any ideas would sure >>> be appreciated ! >>> Dick Maddux >>> Fox 4-1200 >>> Pensacola,Fl >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home >>> . >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Checked by AVG. >>> >>> Got my tires from Dave Fisher,and rims comming from Matco >>> >>> >> mfg.com....rims were $622.26.for bothPlus S+H..I have a KF2..matco part >> no you need 2 qt. MHMHE8B.75-8" Wheel+Break,E SERIES .I hope this >> will help you.I went through a lot of searching to find this set up.MY >> rims are on the way should be here soon...STEVE SHINABERY N554KF KF2 >> little 582 >> > > > Steve, it is alot cheaper to go with the original KF hubs and Douglas 8" wheels. I found hubs for about 40.00 each, a set of hubs for 50.00 and used the brakes from the original Matco Wheels. You just have to get little lugs welded to the wheels to bolt the brakes on. All up with tires I have less than 300 into them. > > -------- > DO NOT ARCHIVE > Leonard Perry > Soldotna AK > Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA > Full Lotus 1260 > 95% complete > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171947#171947 > > > DARN. a day Late//////STEVE SHINABERY N554KF


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    Time: 08:54:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flaperons with Vortex Generators How about this Guy Buchanan
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    > Dave these are great video's. Is the Fox on skies a model II? I love it. > > Robert Model IV Glad you enjoyed -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171958#171958


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    Time: 09:42:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: King Fox Tires
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    > King fox tires are the same as the NANKANG N 800 tires . and Nankang are only 27.95 each versus what what some others were charging much more. > FOR THE PEOPLE WHO KEEP ASKING WHERE CAN I GET KINGFOX TIRES READ THE POSTS ABOUT THEM AND YOU WILL SEE THE ANSWER HAS BEEN GIVEN ALREADY. > > www.tiresunlimited.com > nankang n800 tires slicks Never tried these ones. Likely work -- have you used them ? Kingfox have proven them selves time and time agin. I am sold out of King fox tires now. -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171966#171966


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    Time: 09:42:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: King Fox Tires
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    eskflyer wrote: > King fox tires are the same as the NANKANG N 800 tires . and Nankang are only 27.95 each versus what what some others were charging much more. > FOR THE PEOPLE WHO KEEP ASKING WHERE CAN I GET KINGFOX TIRES READ THE POSTS ABOUT THEM AND YOU WILL SEE THE ANSWER HAS BEEN GIVEN ALREADY. > > www.tiresunlimited.com > nankang n800 tires slicks Dont be a grumpy guss or I will send the kids across the street to beat you down... or make good use of the easter eggs. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171967#171967


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    Time: 10:40:53 AM PST US
    Subject: electric flaps
    From: "kitfoxjim" <jim@franchise-u.com>
    Does anyone know if an electric flap kit exists for a Kitfox Series 5 or if one can be rigged up to work? Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171979#171979


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    Time: 11:24:20 AM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Intercom
    No, sadly, I'm in Michigan wishing I was in Puerto Rico. do not archive Marco, Thanks for the info. I am still selecting intercoms to match up with my Icom IC-A200. Are you the Kitfoxer located in Puerto Rico? Do not archive Pat Reilly Mod 3 Rebuild Rockford, IL --------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 07:42:13 -0700 From: msm_9949@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Intercom Pat, Rather that an intercom, I installed a Micro-Air M720 radio with side-tone that serves as an intercom. The unit is tiny, fits into a 2" hole and works great. The only disadvantage is that with the side-tone, the intercom mic is always "hot" can result in alot of background noise. To counter this I have a toggle switch to turn the intercom off/on. I advise passengers, "if you have to talk to me, flip this switch." Keeps the chit-chat down. Pat Reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com> wrote: Kitfoxers, I am rebuilding a Mod 3 with a 582 Rotax engine and want to know what panel mounted intercom to install. I will be using an Icom A200 radio if that makes any difference. I am concerned about high arget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution Andy, I saw the new Icon A210 but purchased the 200 slaghtly used for $200 less than a new one so that's the way I went. I doubt if you will find a used 210 for awhile. Pat Reilly Mod 3 Rebuild Rockford, IL Do not archive href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ============== x-List" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List ============== blank>http://forums.matronics.com ============== ==========" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution Marco Menezes Model 2 582 N99KX --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.


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    Time: 11:50:14 AM PST US
    From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <JimmieBlackwell@austin.rr.com>
    Subject: Thanks to All
    I am leaving the Kitfox list for now and wanted to say that I wish everyone the very best and safe and fun flying. A special thanks to those of you that have helped me enjoy my Kitfox over the past years. Jimmie Blackwell Cedar Park, Texas


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    Time: 01:17:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Warp drive size?
    From: "dcsfoto" <david@kelm.com>
    my IVO is 72" David Model 7 912S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172007#172007


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    Time: 02:41:00 PM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs
    Dave: There is a V shaped brace of around 1/2" tubing tha connects between the front left ( pilot side) forward gear attach point and the same point on the right side. It then forms a "V" with another tube going back to the second landing gear take off point on the left side.. This strengthened the frame of the plane while on floats... I was going to take a picture of the one on my plane today bur was out for most of the morning. If there isn't a picture posted by tomorrow I'll take one and post it. Noel Loveys AME Intern, PP-Rec Kitfox III-A, 582,B box Ivo IFA, Aerocet 1100 floats -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 10:12 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs > During this process, I realized that the brake calipers are mounted on the left side of the wheel for both mains. Is this the correct way to install them, or was something installed incorrectly? Yes this is correct. Also check both trailing arms and all SS parts for cracks or fatigue. They will bend and crack in time. good design but poor strength with the SS used. If you operate off grass strips and use seaplane ramps expect more repairs but they still quite usable. I have them on mine and they are a very aerodynamic float. I have a IV so I have no idea on the fuselage brace you mention. -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171816#171816


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    Time: 02:58:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs
    From: "vetdrem" <vetdrem@hotmail.com>
    I really appreciate both of you guys for your responses. I am looking forward to seeing the pictures, if it isn't too much trouble. If you can determine the material, too, (steel, aluminum, unobtainuim, or whatever) that would really help. Thanks again, Louie Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172021#172021


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    Time: 03:12:58 PM PST US
    From: Clint Bazzill <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Flaperons with Vortex Generators How about this
    Guy Buchanan Please tell me more about this control reversal? Clint> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Flaperons with Vortex Generators How about this Guy Buchanan> From: akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 08 :24:02 -0700> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > --> Kitfox-List message post ed by: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>> > are you talking about actually putting the VGs on the flaperons in addition to putting them on the wings? I wonder if that would do anything to help the control reversal?> > ------ --> DO NOT ARCHIVE> Leonard Perry> Soldotna AK> Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA> Full Lotus 1260> 95% complete> > > > > Read this topic onlin e here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171948#171948> > > ====> > >


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    Time: 03:18:30 PM PST US
    From: Clint Bazzill <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Tachometer
    UMA With color marking. Had UMA regular for years and worked great. Sold it on Ebay and bought one with color markings, wouldn't leave home without it. Clint> Subject: Kitfox-List: Tachometer> From: Wilson@REinfo.org> Date: Sat , 22 Mar 2008 20:37:26 -0700> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > --> Kitfox-L ist message posted by: "SkySteve" <Wilson@REinfo.org>> > Found out today my tach is not accurate and will need to be replaced as it cannot be adjusted (through the hole in the back) far enough. It is the 2 1/4" Rotax tach.> > What tach do you guys use for the Rotrax 912 (80hp) that fits the 2 1/4" p anel hole? What do you like about yours? What do you dislike about yours? W here did you get yours?> > --------> Steve Wilson> Huntsville, UT> Kitfox I -IV 85DD> 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive > Convertable Nosewheel &amp; Tailwheel > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewt ===============> > >


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    Time: 03:48:53 PM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Re: Tachometer
    Anybody know a source for the colored tape -- Yellow, red, green, white -- (or suitable alternative) to mark the airspeed indicator? Prefer something I don't have to mail order for. Thanks, Deke Morisse Mikado Michigan S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT "The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress." - Joseph Joubert ----- Original Message ----- From: Clint Bazzill To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:16 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Tachometer UMA With color marking. Had UMA regular for years and worked great. Sold it on Ebay and bought one with color markings, wouldn't leave home without it. Clint > Subject: Kitfox-List: Tachometer > From: Wilson@REinfo.org > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:37:26 -0700 > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > Found out today my tach is not accurate and will need to be replaced as it cannot be adjusted (through the hole in the back) far enough. It is the 2 1/4" Rotax tach. > > What tach do you guys use for the Rotrax 912 (80hp) that fits the 2 1/4" panel hole? What do you like about yours? What do you dislike about yours? Where did you get yours? > > -------- > Steve Wilson > Huntsville, UT > Kitfox I-IV 85DD > 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive > Convertable Nosewheel &amp; Tailwheel > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171859#171859 > &========= > > >


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    Time: 04:30:57 PM PST US
    From: paul wilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
    Subject: Re: Tachometer
    Auto detailers, Auto Zone, Checker. Paint from the hobby store. Electrical tape. I have used all of these for years on my various auto projects. Paint is best the tape will fall off after several years in the hot sun. Regards, Paul ==================== At 03:40 PM 3/23/2008, you wrote: >Anybody know a source for the colored tape -- Yellow, red, green, >white -- (or suitable alternative) to mark the airspeed >indicator? Prefer something I don't have to mail order for. >Thanks, >Deke Morisse >Mikado Michigan >S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT >"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress." >- Joseph Joubert > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>Clint Bazzill >To: <mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>kitfox-list@matronics.com >Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:16 PM >Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Tachometer > >UMA With color marking. Had UMA regular for years and worked >great. Sold it on Ebay and bought one with color markings, wouldn't >leave home without it. > >Clint > > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Tachometer > > From: <mailto:Wilson@REinfo.org>Wilson@REinfo.org > > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:37:26 -0700 > > To: <mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > > > > Found out today my tach is not accurate and will need to be > replaced as it cannot be adjusted (through the hole in the back) > far enough. It is the 2 1/4" Rotax tach. > > > > What tach do you guys use for the Rotrax 912 (80hp) that fits the > 2 1/4" panel hole? What do you like about yours? What do you > dislike about yours? Where did you get yours? > > > > -------- > > Steve Wilson > > Huntsville, UT > > Kitfox I-IV 85DD > > 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive > > Convertable Nosewheel &amp; Tailwheel > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171859#171859 > > >&========= > > > > > > > > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > >href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >


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    Time: 04:52:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Here is what a IV looks like inside. I made all hardware except the actual cables and the yellow johnson bar. -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172042#172042 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/aerocet1a_007_920.jpg


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    Time: 04:53:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flaperons with Vortex Generators How about this Guy Buchana
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    According to the Avid flight manual, after 23 degrees of flap when you input aileron, the down aileron creates too much drag and will pull the plane around to that side. you input left aileron and the plane goes right... When I an at low speeds and pulling flaps must turning is with the rudder anyway. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172043#172043


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    Time: 04:54:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Here is why you should check your Aerocet Gear . If it is not re-enforced it will break in time . -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172044#172044 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/aerocetbusted_007_774.jpg


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    Time: 04:57:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tachometer
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    [quote="Fox5flyer"]Anybody know a source for the colored tape -- Yellow, red, green, white -- (or suitable alternative) to mark the airspeed indicator? Prefer something I don't have to mail order for. Thanks, Deke Morisse Mikado Michigan S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT "The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress." - Joseph Joubert > --- Fingernail polish.. I have seen many A&P's use it. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172045#172045


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    Time: 05:01:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Here is what to look for tiny cracks will propagate eventually -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172047#172047 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/aerocetfixedright_002_120.jpg


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    Time: 05:03:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Once you got the trailing arms looked at ,well pull your linkages out and inspect. Here is a pic of what you might find. -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172048#172048 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/aerocetfixedright_007_347.jpg


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    Time: 05:16:20 PM PST US
    From: "Eric" <iworonko@cox.net>
    Subject: first flight
    Hi Gang, after two years of rebuilding and a wide body and a nose gear conversion mod, N58EW took to the air today. It flew nicely but since I have not flown a Kitfox or the like before I see that the light controls will get some getting use to. The little black ball looked like I was playing PinBall with it. However , I did have one serious issue that I need to resolve before further flights. When I reduce power to about 4500 RPM the engine starts shaking badly and it continues to shake down to about 3500 RPM. Below and above that range it runs fine. On the ground it seems to run fine. During mag check, one side drops more just a little more then the other and shakes a bit. Oh yes, the engine is a 912UL with a IFA Ivo. any ideas? Eric N58EW speedster


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    Time: 05:38:55 PM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: engine surge
    Sorry Frank. Leading Edge Airfoils out of Lyons, WI. Rotax sales, parts, service and more. www.leadingedgeairfoils.com Frank Miles <f.miles.tcp.833@clearwire.net> wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Excuse my ignorance but what/who is LEAF? Frank Miles K-fox III W/ 582 --------------------------------- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marco Menezes Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 6:55 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: engine surge Don, I had that happen to me during a full-power run-up of the 582 while on the ground. Engine was 12 years old with about 10 hours then. It screamed like a banshee, red-lined the tach and scared the bejeezus outta me. And I was on the ground! Checked out the archives and Rotax materials as Tom suggests and sure enough, there it was. Gearbox came off, went out to LEAF for the mod and about $500 later, no more problem. Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net> wrote: Don, The rotax gear boxes have several service letters/bulletins issued to prevent the cone that connects the crank shaft to the gears from slipping. Those people that have experienced this report that that the engine seemed to be surging or slipping. Go to the Rotax owners --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and Don, Excuse my ignorance http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG. 3/19/2008 9:54 AM Checked by AVG. 3/20/2008 8:10 PM Marco Menezes Model 2 582 N99KX ---------------------------------


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    Time: 05:39:42 PM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Thanks to All
    Adios Jimmy. Thanks for your contributions. Jimmie Blackwell <JimmieBlackwell@austin.rr.com> wrote: I am leaving the Kitfox list for now and wanted to say that I wish everyone the very best and safe and fun flying. A special thanks to those of you that have helped me enjoy my Kitfox over the past years. Jimmie Blackwell Cedar Park, Texas Marco Menezes Model 2 582 N99KX ---------------------------------


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    Time: 05:40:42 PM PST US
    From: RAY Gignac <kitfoxpilot@msn.com>
    Subject: first flight
    Did you make sure both carbs were sync'ed, I would start with that. Ray From: iworonko@cox.netTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: Kitfox-List: fi rst flightDate: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:12:46 -0500 Hi Gang, after two years of rebuilding and a wide body and a nose gear conversion mo d, N58EW took to the air today. It flew nicely but since I have not flown a Kitfox or the like before I see that the light controls will get some gett ing use to. The little black ball looked like I was playing PinBall with it . However , I did have one serious issue that I need to resolve before furthe r flights. When I reduce power to about 4500 RPM the engine starts shaking badly and it continues to shake down to about 3500 RPM. Below and above th at range it runs fine. On the ground it seems to run fine. During mag check , one side drops more just a little more then the other and shakes a bit. Oh yes, the engine is a 912UL with a IFA Ivo. any ideas? Eric N58EW speedster _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGL M_Mobile_Zune_V3


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    Time: 06:04:23 PM PST US
    From: 84KF <avidfox@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Tachometer
    > > > *"Fingernail polish.. I have seen many A&P's use it."* ....to mark the instrument....right? Leni, tell me that's what you meant. : ) Steve, ahh...., an A&P.


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    Time: 06:40:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: aerocet 1000 amphibs
    From: "vetdrem" <vetdrem@hotmail.com>
    Dave, GREAT info. I called Jim Fahey the other day. He owns the rights to the aerocet 1100's and has all the forms, molds,jigs etc. for them and has some new parts. The first thing he asked was if I had a "channel type" or a "box type" trailing arm. I looked and mine is the box type. He said that the failure that your pics show are likely with the channel style, so I was aware of the concern. The process that I am going through right now is to identify these problems and fix them. I have looked over the left main pretty good and only found one bolt that needed attention. I didn't do a dye-penetrate test (don't have the "stuff") but I looked it over real good. I even put on my glasses. Tomorrow I move to the right side. By the way, Mr. Fahey would like to sell the rights, equipment, and supplies for the aerocet 1100's if anyone would like to go into the float business. Again, thanks for the info. Louie Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172081#172081


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    Time: 06:51:51 PM PST US
    From: "Eric" <iworonko@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: first flight
    Yes, the carbs were synched at idle, dont remember checking them in 3500-4500 RPM range Eric


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    Time: 07:23:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tachometer
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    you got me... yes i ment that you use the fingernail polish to to mark the instruments, unless you are in seattle or california, in which case, your A&P may, better appreciate, the use of neon green, snow white, pimping yellow and super succulent red. Make sure you get an extra bottle of each to leave with the mechanic. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172095#172095


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    Time: 07:40:14 PM PST US
    From: SUE MICHAELS <michaega@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Warp drive size?
    Had a chat with the Kitfox people at air adventure last year in regards to that very question. They tried both 70 and 72" on their factory plane an said the 70" is faster at cruise and the 72" better at climb. 72" if your thinking about floats. I should have contacted the Ivoprop to see if they would cut a 71". That would be interesting! I just received my new 70" electric Ivoprop this month and would love to try / buy a 72" cut down to 71". Anyone interested in a 70" electric Ivoprop. I believe they are about 3 months behind on orders. ----- Original Message ---- From: wadegreaves <reinagreaves@comcast.net> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 10:45:09 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Warp drive size? Simple question: What's best on a Series 7 with a 912s? 70" or 72"? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171881#171881


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    Time: 07:50:15 PM PST US
    From: 84KF <avidfox@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Tachometer
    Thanks for the clarification.... : ) Actually..., we *do *use clear nail polish in the restoration shop. Wires are often wrapped an\or bundled using the old fashion "friction tape"..., you know, the sticky black stuff that we used as kids to re-wrap worn baseballs. After the wraping\bundeling is complete, the tape is coated with the clear polish to seal the tape from moisture. Looks good, and lasts for years. This is standard in the military maintenance manuals from the '40's, except they specify clear industrial lacquer. No tie-wraps in an "original" Stearman or T-6 The little bottle of polish is easier to work with, and lives in the tool box quite nice. Steve Benesh A&P,I.A. KF5\912UL


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    Time: 08:16:01 PM PST US
    From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk <thesupe@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Tachometer
    I bought a pack of different colored tape at Walmart. Green, red, yellow, white. It actually is electical tape. Hope that helps, Jim Chuk Avids, Mn From: fox5flyer@idealwifi.netTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: Re: Kitf ox-List: TachometerDate: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:40:47 -0400 Anybody know a source for the colored tape -- Yellow, red, green, white -- (or suitable alternative) to mark the airspeed indicator? Prefer something I don't have to mail order for. Thanks, Deke MorisseMikado MichiganS5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."- Joseph Joubert ----- Original Message ----- From: Clint Bazzill Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:16 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Tachometer UMA With color marking. Had UMA regular for years and worked great. Sold it on Ebay and bought one with color markings, wouldn't leave home without it. Clint> Subject: Kitfox-List: Tachometer> From: Wilson@REinfo.org> Dat e: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:37:26 -0700> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > --> Ki tfox-List message posted by: "SkySteve" <Wilson@REinfo.org>> > Found out to day my tach is not accurate and will need to be replaced as it cannot be ad justed (through the hole in the back) far enough. It is the 2 1/4" Rotax ta ch.> > What tach do you guys use for the Rotrax 912 (80hp) that fits the 2 1/4" panel hole? What do you like about yours? What do you dislike about yo urs? Where did you get yours?> > --------> Steve Wilson> Huntsville, UT> Ki tfox I-IV 85DD> 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive > Convertable Nosewheel &amp; Tai lwheel> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com /viewtopic.php?p=171859#171859> &==========> > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhr ef="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c _________________________________________________________________ Test your Star IQ http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_HMTAGMAR


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    Time: 08:25:59 PM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Tachometer
    on my first effort I used striping tape from the auto paint store The next time around I baought a packet of curved stripes from acs. John Kerr -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> > > [quote="Fox5flyer"]Anybody know a source for the colored tape -- Yellow, red, > green, white -- (or suitable alternative) to mark the airspeed indicator? > Prefer something I don't have to mail order for. > Thanks, > Deke Morisse > Mikado Michigan > S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT > "The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress." > - Joseph Joubert > > > > > > --- > > > > Fingernail polish.. I have seen many A&P's use it. > > -------- > DO NOT ARCHIVE > Leonard Perry > Soldotna AK > Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA > Full Lotus 1260 > 95% complete > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172045#172045 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:29:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Warp drive size?
    From: "vetdrem" <vetdrem@hotmail.com>
    I might be interested in the blades, if you are staying with IVOPROP electric you can probably use the same hub. Give me a call any time and we can talk about it. (989) 387-4662 Louie Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172112#172112


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    Time: 09:12:46 PM PST US
    From: "jeff puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: first flight
    Eric, Did you follow the service bulletin from Skystar to shorten the isolator spacers on the engine mounts? Jeff Classic IV ----- Original Message ----- From: RAY Gignac To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:37 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: first flight Did you make sure both carbs were sync'ed, I would start with that. Ray ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: iworonko@cox.net To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: first flight Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:12:46 -0500 Hi Gang, after two years of rebuilding and a wide body and a nose gear conversion mod, N58EW took to the air today. It flew nicely but since I have not flown a Kitfox or the like before I see that the light controls will get some getting use to. The little black ball looked like I was playing PinBall with it. However , I did have one serious issue that I need to resolve before further flights. When I reduce power to about 4500 RPM the engine starts shaking badly and it continues to shake down to about 3500 RPM. Below and above that range it runs fine. On the ground it seems to run fine. During mag check, one side drops more just a little more then the other and shakes a bit. Oh yes, the engine is a 912UL with a IFA Ivo. any ideas? Eric N58EW speedster arget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. Enter for your chance to win.


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    Time: 09:53:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Inspecting Spars & Struts
    From: "tinnemaha" <tinnemaha@hotmail.com>
    Hello list, I'm deep into my first annual (condition) inspection (TT = 167 hrs!) and am having trouble figuring out how to inspect the wing spar and/or lift struts, other than just looking from the outside. The lift struts are buried in their fairings and, of course, the spars are under the fabric. Sure, I can see the ends & outsides, but is that enough? What do you all do? Sorry if this is a repeat subject.......I couldn't find it in the archives. Thanks, Grant Krueger Series 5 TD w/Lyc O-235 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172127#172127


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    Time: 10:16:34 PM PST US
    From: "Frank Miles" <f.miles.tcp.833@clearwire.net>
    Subject: Plane washinng?
    This is off the Kitfox topic but I am posting on behalf of a couple of grandkids that think that they want to start a plane washing biz. Do any of you know what the charge for such is in your area if it is available? When I was in Phoenix a few years ago it was $75 for just a simple wash job anything more was extra. I.E. wax or vacuum. Frank Miles Kitfox III w/582 Do not archive Checked by AVG. 4:43 PM




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