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1. 01:56 AM - [off-topic] Simulator WAS: Black paint (Michel Verheughe)
2. 05:58 AM - electrical problem (Dee Young)
3. 06:45 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Adjustment? (Dan Billingsley)
4. 06:57 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Adjustment? (dcsfoto)
5. 07:52 AM - Making Bungees (Tom Jones)
6. 08:13 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Adjustment? (Lynn Matteson)
7. 08:36 AM - Re: Black paint (off topic) (Lynn Matteson)
8. 08:46 AM - Re: gas door struts install? (Lynn Matteson)
9. 08:51 AM - Re: [off-topic] Simulator WAS: Black paint (Lynn Matteson)
10. 08:58 AM - Re: [off-topic] Simulator WAS: Black paint (Rexinator)
11. 09:15 AM - Re: [off-topic] Simulator WAS: Black paint (Lynn Matteson)
12. 09:30 AM - Bing carbs (Lynn Matteson)
13. 09:48 AM - Re: [off-topic] Simulator WAS: Black paint (patrick reilly)
14. 10:06 AM - Re: [off-topic] Simulator WAS: Black paint (Steven Didier)
15. 10:55 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Adjustment? (darinh)
16. 11:29 AM - Re: [off-topic] Simulator (Michel Verheughe)
17. 11:50 AM - Re: Bing carbs (akflyer)
18. 12:46 PM - Re: Re: Bing carbs (Lynn Matteson)
19. 12:54 PM - Re: Re: Rudder Cable Adjustment? (Dan Billingsley)
20. 01:58 PM - Re: Re: Bing carbs (samscycles@juno.com)
21. 02:54 PM - Re: Re: Bing carbs (patrick reilly)
22. 03:13 PM - New windshield material (Pat Reilly)
23. 03:16 PM - Re: Re: skis (patrick reilly)
24. 03:36 PM - Re: Rudder Cable Adjustment? (darinh)
25. 05:36 PM - Re: Bing carbs (RAY Gignac)
26. 06:11 PM - Re: Re: Bing carbs (Lynn Matteson)
27. 07:17 PM - Re: Re: Bing carbs (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
28. 07:44 PM - Re: Bing carbs (Lynn Matteson)
29. 08:04 PM - Re: Re: Bing carbs (Lynn Matteson)
30. 09:01 PM - Re: Re: skis (84KF)
31. 09:27 PM - Re: gas door struts install? (jerry evans)
32. 10:57 PM - Cowling spacing (wadegreaves)
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| Subject: | [off-topic] Simulator WAS: Black paint |
> From: Lynn Matteson [lynnmatt@jps.net]
> Yup, that's the one. Shows a picture of your plane landing amidst a
> flock of seagulls, and mentions landing at ENFB, and you informing
> him of the difficulty of landing there now that it has closed.
Do you mean, my simulator replica of my model 3? Coool! I am now famous! :-) Yes,
ENFB is now closed and, actually, my son works for a telecom company that has
its main office where the old runway was. So ... kids, don't do this in real
life! :-)
Here is a screenshot of my my digital Kitfox ... with the door open and me, smiling!
:-)
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | electrical problem |
I need some serious help from someone who knows about ignition systems
etc. Please respond off list. Thanks
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Cable Adjustment? |
Darin,
How are things going up in Utah? Sounds like you are making good progress.
I decided to put these turnbuckles... http://www.azshowersolutions.com/Fuselage11.html on the back of the rudder cables. I used the brackets at the front. I found everything I needed at Spruce.
Dan B
Mesa, AZ KF-IV 912s
darinh <gerns25@netscape.net> wrote:
What have you guys done for adjustment in the rudder cables? My kit comes with
a set of rudder brackets that have a seriies of holes for adjustment but they
are rather course adjustments. What about fine adjustment for cable stretch and
small adjustments in rudder centering? has anyone used clip locking or safety
wire turnbuckles? If so, where did you locate the turnbuckles? Pics would be
great if you have them.
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Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (Painting)
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Cable Adjustment? |
model 7 has the handles in the center console for adjust,brackets for fine adjust.
rudder should center if done by the manual.
I would not mess with turnbuckels.
David Model 7 & 3
Do not arcive
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It is time for a condition inspection on my Classic 4 already. I want to make
my own landing gear bungees this time. It seems like I found the procedure for
securing the end loops with either rib lacing cord or safety wire and filed
it away where I can't find it now. I think it was in AC43.13-1B. Can someone
point me to where it was I saw it? I could be wrong about it being in AC43.13-1B
because I sure can't find it there now.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Cable Adjustment? |
I thought that there should be a finer adjustment than the coarse
1/2" or whatever those straps/links would provide, too. So I went
with turnbuckles at the front inside the cabin. Since I installed
them, I've never had to touch them. I used a clean-looking fork at
the back swaged onto the cable.
After flying the thing for two years, I've found that the adjustment
is all in the feet of the pilot...yes, get the initial setting done
right so that the pedals are correctly placed, and that's it. At
least that's what worked for me with a Model IV, maybe/probably not
the same for the 7.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
On Mar 29, 2008, at 10:29 PM, darinh wrote:
>
> What have you guys done for adjustment in the rudder cables? My
> kit comes with a set of rudder brackets that have a seriies of
> holes for adjustment but they are rather course adjustments. What
> about fine adjustment for cable stretch and small adjustments in
> rudder centering? has anyone used clip locking or safety wire
> turnbuckles? If so, where did you locate the turnbuckles? Pics
> would be great if you have them.
>
> --------
> Darin Hawkes
> Series 7 (Painting)
> 914 Turbo
> Kaysville, Utah
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173597#173597
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Black paint (off topic) |
Man I dunno if I can handle all this fan mail. : )
Yes, Roger, that's it. It's a good thing somebody else tipped me off
that it was in there...I mighta had heart failure if I turned a page
and there it was.
I could think of a picture better suited for that particular article,
though....see below.
This was back on the ground at home from Oshkosh. I had a 9' x 11'
screen room, two folding chairs, a folding table, two tiki lamps,
sleeping bag, air mattress, air pump, clothes, a folding cooler, left-
over beer that I couldn't give away, full tanks of fuel minus about
75 miles worth, and a bunch of misc. stuff, all weighed before
leaving home initially, and all within the CG envelope. I think this
picture would have suited the gist of the article they wrote better,
but what the heck.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
do not archive
On Mar 29, 2008, at 10:36 PM, Roger McConnell wrote:
> <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
>
> Hey Lynn,
> Is that your plane on page 62 of the April issue of the EAA Sport
> Pilot magazine??
> Roger McConnell, Duncan, OK
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| Subject: | Re: gas door struts install? |
Matter of fact, the doors came powder coated, and I had to paint the
little brackets myself with Polyfiber enamel. And yeah, I had all the
structural work done before I riveted the glass on.
As I'm sure you found, Noel, it must be a bugger to do some of that
attaching work after the fact.
I'd like to paint the glass on the edges, so that clear edge is
covered with orange, over to the middle of the door framework. It
looks a bit strange when you're looking at it and see that clear area
all around the door, but I just haven't got to it yet.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
On Mar 29, 2008, at 10:50 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
>
> Your installation is so much cleaner than mine! Judging by the
> paint you
> must have done the braces before putting the glass on the doors.
>
> Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn
> Matteson
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 3:04 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: gas door struts install?
>
> Here's the pics, Jerry.
> I've got instructions if you'd like, but it's pretty simple to
> do...just a
> matter of figuring out where to locate the brackets so that they
> allow the
> strut/spring to go over center when closed, but don't allow the
> door to go
> up high enough to hit the wing. Some folks use a cable restraint to
> do this,
> but with the proper bracket locating method, this isn't necessary.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: [off-topic] Simulator WAS: Black paint |
Ok, Michel, I just gotta critique ya on this picture/
drawing....where's the shadows under the tires, or did you just lift
off? : ) And if you just lifted off, I gotta bust you for not looking
down the runway. : ) : ) (double smiley)
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
do not archive
On Mar 30, 2008, at 4:52 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote:
>> From: Lynn Matteson [lynnmatt@jps.net]
>> Yup, that's the one. Shows a picture of your plane landing amidst a
>> flock of seagulls, and mentions landing at ENFB, and you informing
>> him of the difficulty of landing there now that it has closed.
>
> Do you mean, my simulator replica of my model 3? Coool! I am now
> famous! :-) Yes, ENFB is now closed and, actually, my son works for
> a telecom company that has its main office where the old runway
> was. So ... kids, don't do this in real life! :-)
> Here is a screenshot of my my digital Kitfox ... with the door open
> and me, smiling! :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Michel Verheughe
> Norway
> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
> Do not archive
> <LNYLT.jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: [off-topic] Simulator WAS: Black paint |
Surely someone could help Michel out with a scan of the Kitplane
article? I'll do it, but from where I live I have to drive over 80 miles
round trip to find a newsstand with that magazine. My schedule will
delay it a few days since I want to make most efficient use of the
ethanol in my car. :-)
--
Rex Hefferan
SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>>From: Lynn Matteson [lynnmatt@jps.net]
>>It looks pretty visible to me, Michel, as viewed on page 45 of
>>Kitplanes, April 2008 issue. : )
>>
>>
>
>... now you got me really puzzled, Lynn. We can't get Kitplanes in the newsstands,
here in Norway, so I have no way to find out myself. Yesterday, I received
an email from Chuck Bodeen, an old friend from the X-Plane simulator, mentionning
the new issue of Kitplanes and his article about safety by simulation, if
I remember correctly. Is it what you refer to?
>
>Cheers,
>Michel Verheughe
>Norway
>Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
>Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: [off-topic] Simulator WAS: Black paint |
Maybe even better, the magazine should send him a few copies for
including him in it, or perhaps the author of the article should?
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
do not archive
On Mar 30, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Rexinator wrote:
>
> Surely someone could help Michel out with a scan of the Kitplane
> article? I'll do it, but from where I live I have to drive over 80
> miles round trip to find a newsstand with that magazine. My
> schedule will delay it a few days since I want to make most
> efficient use of the ethanol in my car. :-)
>
> --
> Rex Hefferan
> SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs
>
>
> Michel Verheughe wrote:
>
>>> From: Lynn Matteson [lynnmatt@jps.net] It looks pretty visible to
>>> me, Michel, as viewed on page 45 of Kitplanes, April 2008
>>> issue. : )
>>>
>>
>> ... now you got me really puzzled, Lynn. We can't get Kitplanes in
>> the newsstands, here in Norway, so I have no way to find out
>> myself. Yesterday, I received an email from Chuck Bodeen, an old
>> friend from the X-Plane simulator, mentionning the new issue of
>> Kitplanes and his article about safety by simulation, if I
>> remember correctly. Is it what you refer to?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Michel Verheughe
>> Norway
>> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
>> Do not archive
>>
>
>
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Has anybody found the need to change the diaphragm in their Bing
carbs? I just started to have a mid-range fuel problem, and I'm
wondering if it could be the problem. The history is that I changed
the needle jet from 2.76 to 2.78, and the rpm's around 1500-2000
became sluggish and it would die. This is during a ground run-up.
Going back to the 2.76 jet didn't help, and it probably shouldn't
have. If I pull the "choke" on, it helps to get through this "mid-
range crisis" and will rev up to 2750, the normal static WOT for me
in these atmospheric conditions.
So it seems like it is lean, and in want of more fuel as shown by the
better performance by applying choke, but nothing else has changed to
cause it to become lean, or am I overlooking something?
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
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| Subject: | [off-topic] Simulator WAS: Black paint |
Michel, If you send me your address I willl send you a copy of the Kitplane
s mag you are featured in.
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Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL> From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: [off-topic]
Simulator WAS: Black paint> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:46:28 -0400> To: kit
<lynnmatt@jps.net>> > Ok, Michel, I just gotta critique ya on this picture/
> drawing....where's the shadows under the tires, or did you just lift > o
ff? : ) And if you just lifted off, I gotta bust you for not looking > down
the runway. : ) : ) (double smiley)> > Lynn Matteson> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200> flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual> do
not archive> > > On Mar 30, 2008, at 4:52 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote:> > >>
From: Lynn Matteson [lynnmatt@jps.net]> >> Yup, that's the one. Shows a pi
cture of your plane landing amidst a> >> flock of seagulls, and mentions la
nding at ENFB, and you informing> >> him of the difficulty of landing there
now that it has closed.> >> > Do you mean, my simulator replica of my mode
l 3? Coool! I am now > > famous! :-) Yes, ENFB is now closed and, actually,
my son works for > > a telecom company that has its main office where the
old runway > > was. So ... kids, don't do this in real life! :-)> > Here is
a screenshot of my my digital Kitfox ... with the door open > > and me, sm
iling! :-)> >> > Cheers,> > Michel Verheughe> > Norway> > Kitfox 3 - Jabiru
========================> _
===============> > >
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| Subject: | Re: [off-topic] Simulator WAS: Black paint |
Michel, attached is a jpeg of the page that has the reference to your
simulator shot. BTW it is the May 2008 issue!
Cheers,
Steve Didier
>>
>>
>> Michel Verheughe wrote:
>>
>>>> From: Lynn Matteson [lynnmatt@jps.net] It looks pretty visible to
>>>> me, Michel, as viewed on page 45 of Kitplanes, April 2008 issue.
>>>> : )
>>>>
>>>
>>> ... now you got me really puzzled, Lynn. We can't get Kitplanes in
>>> the newsstands, here in Norway, so I have no way to find out
>>> myself. Yesterday, I received an email from Chuck Bodeen, an old
>>> friend from the X-Plane simulator, mentionning the new issue of
>>> Kitplanes and his article about safety by simulation, if I remember
>>> correctly. Is it what you refer to?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Michel Verheughe
>>> Norway
>>> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
>>> Do not archive
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Cable Adjustment? |
Dan,
It is going great up here...making good progress but still a ways to go. I looked
at those same turnbuckles...can you tell me the overall lenght from end to
end with the cable hardware?
I have set the rudder per the manual and all is as it should be now but in my experience
(which is not much I must admit) cable systems tend to relax or break
in over time and the turnbuckles would allow for this small amount of slop to
be adjusted out. As far as the center console adjustment goes, this only changes
peddle location and has nothing to do with the length of the cables...the
"fine" adjustment in the brackets is not very fine. I think I will leave them
as is now and if the cables stretch over time, I will install the turnbuckles
like Lynn did...in the center console in the cabin.
--------
Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (Painting)
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah
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| Subject: | [off-topic] Simulator |
> From: Steven Didier [steve.didier@gmail.com]
> Michel, attached is a jpeg of the page that has the reference to your
> simulator shot. BTW it is the May 2008 issue!
Thank you very much Steve and Pat; thanks for the offer, much appreciated, but
Steve scan is enough. Lynn, the reason I don't have a shadow under the wheels
is that I use a good digital eraser ... :-)
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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Make sure the jets do not have any blockage. if you go up or down on the jetting
and it does not change, that would point towards a blockage in the circuit.
A fine piece of wire may do it for you.
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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Thanks Leonard, but I'm pretty confident there's no blockage or dirt
in the jets that I just changed. In all the carbs I've dealt with,
I've never seen a carb as clean as this carb...nothing but pretty
blue 100LL in the bowl. All jets are clean clear through. The
perplexing thing is that the engine was running fine, but I wanted to
get the EGT's down a few degrees, so I went up to the next size
needle jet, and it balked at running in the mid-range, so I went back
to the original jet, and it still balked. Obviously I screwed
something up in the mid-range transition area of the carb, but this
thing is so wonderfully simple that it's hard to see what could have
gone wrong. I can't wait until Bing opens it's phone lines tomorrow
so I can get some suggestions.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
On Mar 30, 2008, at 2:45 PM, akflyer wrote:
>
> Make sure the jets do not have any blockage. if you go up or down
> on the jetting and it does not change, that would point towards a
> blockage in the circuit. A fine piece of wire may do it for you.
>
> --------
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
> Leonard Perry
> Soldotna AK
> Avid "C" / Mk IV
> 582 IVO IFA
> Full Lotus 1260
> 95% complete
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173706#173706
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Cable Adjustment? |
Darin,
With the turnbuckle closed, it measures 3.75" from nose to tail.... If I measure
it all including the cable swag hardware it is 5"
It looks like the turnbuckles will give somewhere between 1 and 1.5" of adjustment.
Dan B Mesa, AZ
KF-IV 912s
darinh <gerns25@netscape.net> wrote:
Dan,
It is going great up here...making good progress but still a ways to go. I looked
at those same turnbuckles...can you tell me the overall lenght from end to
end with the cable hardware?
I have set the rudder per the manual and all is as it should be now but in my experience
(which is not much I must admit) cable systems tend to relax or break
in over time and the turnbuckles would allow for this small amount of slop to
be adjusted out. As far as the center console adjustment goes, this only changes
peddle location and has nothing to do with the length of the cables...the
"fine" adjustment in the brackets is not very fine. I think I will leave them
as is now and if the cables stretch over time, I will install the turnbuckles
like Lynn did...in the center console in the cabin.
--------
Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (Painting)
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah
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Make sure you don't have a vacume leak near the carb fittings. You can
spray some carb cleaner around the fittings and listen for a change in e
ngine if the fittings are leaking.
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Lynn, Someone already mentioned it, But are you sure you aren't leaking air
in around the carb boots. Also, you mentioned "diaphram" I have never been
in a bing carb, at least not since I fooled with BSA's 100 years ago, but
an early Honda interceptor gave me fits because I was't gluing the diaphram
s down in the carbs that I had cleaned and was distorting them when screwin
g the carb top back on. I don't know, maybe?
do not archive
Pat Reilly > From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Bing car
bs> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:39:29 -0400> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> >
nks Leonard, but I'm pretty confident there's no blockage or dirt > in the
jets that I just changed. In all the carbs I've dealt with, > I've never se
en a carb as clean as this carb...nothing but pretty > blue 100LL in the bo
wl. All jets are clean clear through. The > perplexing thing is that the en
gine was running fine, but I wanted to > get the EGT's down a few degrees,
so I went up to the next size > needle jet, and it balked at running in the
mid-range, so I went back > to the original jet, and it still balked. Obvi
ously I screwed > something up in the mid-range transition area of the carb
, but this > thing is so wonderfully simple that it's hard to see what coul
d have > gone wrong. I can't wait until Bing opens it's phone lines tomorro
w > so I can get some suggestions.> > Lynn Matteson> Grass Lake, Michigan>
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200> flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual> > > >
On Mar 30, 2008, at 2:45 PM, akflyer wrote:> > > --> Kitfox-List message p
osted by: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>> >> > Make sure the jets do no
t have any blockage. if you go up or down > > on the jetting and it does no
t change, that would point towards a > > blockage in the circuit. A fine pi
ece of wire may do it for you.> >> > --------> > DO NOT ARCHIVE> > Leonard
Perry> > Soldotna AK> > Avid "C" / Mk IV> > 582 IVO IFA> > Full L
otus 1260> > 95% complete> >> >> >> >> > Read this topic online here:> >> >
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173706#173706> >> >> >> >> >
=======> > >
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| Subject: | New windshield material |
Who asked a month ago about a new plexiglass material supplied out of
Ohio? I bought a sheet, have some experience to share. And, I can't
believe I can't find any of the paperwork on the material and don't
remember the supplier .
do not archive
Pat Reilly
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Steve, Why no thermostat? Wouldn't a thermostat be necessary to run in wint
er in a cold climate?
Pat Reilly
do not archive
@matronics.comSubject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: skis
Pat,
The Series 5 I have is equipped with a heater core. Referring to the origi
nal Skystar packing list, dated 01/23/95, it was part of "Heater Kit, Singl
e, 912 #69014.000 ". The "Radiator, Cabin Heater" is part #15044.000. The
included fan was a 4"
All other parts and part #'s are included in the list also.
The heater does work. But, you wouldn't know it unless you stick your hand
under it.
The total efficiency is going to be determined by actual coolant temps and
how air tight you cabin is.
I do not have a thermostat in the system so coolant temps are at the mercy
of ambient air temps and my cabin has a lot of drafts so, in my particular
plane, it's just about useless. With some work (read $$), maybe.
I'm talking about flying in 35' 'F or less, and when you consider wind chil
l and any altitude, It gets cold. Gloves were mandatory for me this winter.
I am not saying it couldn't be better... it is all due to the individual co
nstruction of the plane, and mine has not been modified from the original d
esign.
Steve
84KF
KF5\912UL
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Cable Adjustment? |
Thanks Dan, these should fit just fine in the center console.
--------
Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (Painting)
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah
Read this topic online here:
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> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com; jabiruengines@yahoogroups.com> From: lynnm
att@jps.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Bing carbs> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:26
.net>> > Has anybody found the need to change the diaphragm in their Bing >
carbs? I just started to have a mid-range fuel problem, and I'm > wonderin
g if it could be the problem. The history is that I changed > the needle je
t from 2.76 to 2.78, and the rpm's around 1500-2000 > became sluggish and i
t would die. This is during a ground run-up. > Going back to the 2.76 jet d
idn't help, and it probably shouldn't > have. If I pull the "choke" on, it
helps to get through this "mid- > range crisis" and will rev up to 2750, th
e normal static WOT for me > in these atmospheric conditions.> So it seems
like it is lean, and in want of more fuel as shown by the > better performa
nce by applying choke, but nothing else has changed to > cause it to become
lean, or am I overlooking something?> > Lynn Matteson> Grass Lake, Michiga
n> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200> flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual> >
-========================
==> > > Hi Lynn, Ray Gignac here and I just had both of my carbs cleane
d and overhauled at Lockwood, and the diaphram was not replaced! if it is
not cracked torn or dryrot it's ok. I did have a few bad O-rings!!
Ray
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Well, the boot looks good at this time. And the fact that this
problem just started when I swapped jets makes one think that's the
area to be looking for the cure. The diaphragm is not glued in my
carb, and this is the first time I've been into the carb this far. I
will get the lowdown on the carb tomorrow, I hope, when I talk to the
techs at Bing. I'm not sure, but it seems like a test of some sort
could be performed on the diaphragm without the spring in place,
letting you know whether or not the diaphragm was able to hold air
without leaking. Just for the record, there is a spring that holds
the diaphragm and the sliding piston in its lowest position. It seems
to me that if this spring was removed temporarily, a test could be
made to show the "health" of the diaphragm. It seems like I read
somewhere that the diaphragms need to be glued in, but not sure.
I'm hoping to buy the DVD that Bing sells on overhauling the CV
carbs. I only hope it's better than the aircraft carb tuning and
parts manual I bought....dark pictures with arrows that point into
the picture, supposedly showing a particular part, but the arrow gets
lost in the dark picture, so you don't know where it's pointing. And
it was mostly geared toward ultralight carbs...very little on the CV
carbs.
I see that Bing offers a service of correcting distortion in certain
parts, so this must be a common problem.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
On Mar 30, 2008, at 5:49 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> Lynn, Someone already mentioned it, But are you sure you aren't
> leaking air in around the carb boots. Also, you mentioned
> "diaphram" I have never been in a bing carb, at least not since I
> fooled with BSA's 100 years ago, but an early Honda interceptor
> gave me fits because I was't gluing the diaphrams down in the carbs
> that I had cleaned and was distorting them when screwing the carb
> top back on. I don't know, maybe?
>
> do not archive
>
> Pat Reilly
>
> > From: lynnmatt@jps.net
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Bing carbs
> > Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:39:29 -0400
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> > Thanks Leonard, but I'm pretty confident there's no blockage or dirt
> > in the jets that I just changed. In all the carbs I've dealt with,
> > I've never seen a carb as clean as this carb...nothing but pretty
> > blue 100LL in the bowl. All jets are clean clear through. The
> > perplexing thing is that the engine was running fine, but I
> wanted to
> > get the EGT's down a few degrees, so I went up to the next size
> > needle jet, and it balked at running in the mid-range, so I went
> back
> > to the original jet, and it still balked. Obviously I screwed
> > something up in the mid-range transition area of the carb, but this
> > thing is so wonderfully simple that it's hard to see what could have
> > gone wrong. I can't wait until Bing opens it's phone lines tomorrow
> > so I can get some suggestions.
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Grass Lake, Michigan
> > Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> > flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 30, 2008, at 2:45 PM, akflyer wrote:
> >
> <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > Make sure the jets do not have any blockage. if you go up or down
> > > on the jetting and it does not change, that would point towards a
> > > blockage in the circuit. A fine piece of wire may do it for you.
> > >
> > > --------
> > > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> > > Leonard Perry
> > > Soldotna AK
> > > Avid "C" / Mk IV
> > > 582 IVO IFA
> > > Full Lotus 1260
> > > 95% complete
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Read this topic online here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173706#173706
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ><============
> >
> >
> >
>
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Lynn, did you disassemble the carb from the top or just change the main jet from
the bowl?
If from the top is is critical that the diaphra be oriented properly with the index
nub properly seated in the appropriate indentation.
Applying the enrichener for improvement does speak to being lean for some reason.
Sorry not to be more helpful
John Kerr
912ul, rotek 3600 with 40mm Bing
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> Well, the boot looks good at this time. And the fact that this
> problem just started when I swapped jets makes one think that's the
> area to be looking for the cure. The diaphragm is not glued in my
> carb, and this is the first time I've been into the carb this far. I
> will get the lowdown on the carb tomorrow, I hope, when I talk to the
> techs at Bing. I'm not sure, but it seems like a test of some sort
> could be performed on the diaphragm without the spring in place,
> letting you know whether or not the diaphragm was able to hold air
> without leaking. Just for the record, there is a spring that holds
> the diaphragm and the sliding piston in its lowest position. It seems
> to me that if this spring was removed temporarily, a test could be
> made to show the "health" of the diaphragm. It seems like I read
> somewhere that the diaphragms need to be glued in, but not sure.
>
> I'm hoping to buy the DVD that Bing sells on overhauling the CV
> carbs. I only hope it's better than the aircraft carb tuning and
> parts manual I bought....dark pictures with arrows that point into
> the picture, supposedly showing a particular part, but the arrow gets
> lost in the dark picture, so you don't know where it's pointing. And
> it was mostly geared toward ultralight carbs...very little on the CV
> carbs.
>
> I see that Bing offers a service of correcting distortion in certain
> parts, so this must be a common problem.
>
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
>
>
> On Mar 30, 2008, at 5:49 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
>
> > Lynn, Someone already mentioned it, But are you sure you aren't
> > leaking air in around the carb boots. Also, you mentioned
> > "diaphram" I have never been in a bing carb, at least not since I
> > fooled with BSA's 100 years ago, but an early Honda interceptor
> > gave me fits because I was't gluing the diaphrams down in the carbs
> > that I had cleaned and was distorting them when screwing the carb
> > top back on. I don't know, maybe?
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> > Pat Reilly
> >
> > > From: lynnmatt@jps.net
> > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Bing carbs
> > > Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:39:29 -0400
> > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Leonard, but I'm pretty confident there's no blockage or dirt
> > > in the jets that I just changed. In all the carbs I've dealt with,
> > > I've never seen a carb as clean as this carb...nothing but pretty
> > > blue 100LL in the bowl. All jets are clean clear through. The
> > > perplexing thing is that the engine was running fine, but I
> > wanted to
> > > get the EGT's down a few degrees, so I went up to the next size
> > > needle jet, and it balked at running in the mid-range, so I went
> > back
> > > to the original jet, and it still balked. Obviously I screwed
> > > something up in the mid-range transition area of the carb, but this
> > > thing is so wonderfully simple that it's hard to see what could have
> > > gone wrong. I can't wait until Bing opens it's phone lines tomorrow
> > > so I can get some suggestions.
> > >
> > > Lynn Matteson
> > > Grass Lake, Michigan
> > > Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> > > flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 30, 2008, at 2:45 PM, akflyer wrote:
> > >
> > <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
> > > >
> > > > Make sure the jets do not have any blockage. if you go up or down
> > > > on the jetting and it does not change, that would point towards a
> > > > blockage in the circuit. A fine piece of wire may do it for you.
> > > >
> > > > --------
> > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> > > > Leonard Perry
> > > > Soldotna AK
> > > > Avid "C" / Mk IV
> > > > 582 IVO IFA
> > > > Full Lotus 1260
> > > > 95% complete
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Read this topic online here:
> > > >
> > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173706#173706
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ><============
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Hi Ray-
Jeez, you must have bucks to burn, getting Lockwood to do the work. : )
I'm probably not going to find any fault with my diaphragm, but in
the "Bing Carburetors Aircraft Tuning and Parts Manual", on the page
where they talk about "recommendations and tips on CV carbs" the
first thing they say is "You should replace the diaphragm in your CV
carb every two years regardless of hours." This may be to sell some
parts, but it may be good advice. My diaphragm looks perfect, but if
there were invisible pinholes, now would be good time to change it,
even at $60 a pop! At this point, I'm willing to throw good money
after a cure for my carb woes. It just takes too much effort to get
at my carb to remove it, and I'd like to know it's right when it goes
back in.
The timing couldn't have been worse for this problem to come up,
wanting to leave later this week for Sun 'n' Fun. : (
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
On Mar 30, 2008, at 8:33 PM, RAY Gignac wrote:
> >
> > Has anybody found the need to change the diaphragm in their Bing
> > carbs?
> > Lynn Matteson
>
> Hi Lynn, Ray Gignac here and I just had both of my carbs cleaned
> and overhauled at Lockwood, and the diaphram was not replaced! if
> it is not cracked torn or dryrot it's ok. I did have a few bad O-
> rings!!
>
> Ray
>
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Hi John-
After this problem came up, I pulled the carb off the engine and went
into the top to see what shape the diaphragm was in...it looks great.
It wasn't the main jet that I changed, but the needle jet. This is
the "cruise jet" more or less. It's the one that sits just above the
main jet on what they call the Mixing Tube (a/k/a Jet Stock), and
it's the one that the needle slides in and out of, changing the mid-
range mixture. I had read earlier that there was a tab that must be
oriented correctly into the indentation, and of course it was. If
this were to be assembled out of line, I'd think that a vacuum leak
would exist, and running the engine might not happen...not well anyway.
I've also heard of gluing this diaphragm in place, but this wasn't
done on my carb that I could detect anyway. I'll get Bing's take on
this practice, unless somebody can tell me otherwise.
Right now I've got the carb sitting in front of a picture of Dale
Earnhardt, hoping that the Intimidator's glare will whip the carb
into shape. : )
What have you got the Rotec in, John? A Kitfox? I met Joe Meyeres
from Olathe, KS at last year's Oshkosh, and he has a 7 cyl Rotec in a
'fox. I just googled his site:
www.rotecradialengines.com/customers/joemeyeres.htm
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
On Mar 30, 2008, at 10:09 PM, kerrjohna@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Lynn, did you disassemble the carb from the top or just change the
> main jet from the bowl?
>
> If from the top is is critical that the diaphra be oriented
> properly with the index nub properly seated in the appropriate
> indentation.
>
> Applying the enrichener for improvement does speak to being lean
> for some reason.
>
> Sorry not to be more helpful
>
> John Kerr
> 912ul, rotek 3600 with 40mm Bing
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>>
>> Well, the boot looks good at this time. And the fact that this
>> problem just started when I swapped jets makes one think that's the
>> area to be looking for the cure. The diaphragm is not glued in my
>> carb, and this is the first time I've been into the carb this far. I
>> will get the lowdown on the carb tomorrow, I hope, when I talk to the
>> techs at Bing. I'm not sure, but it seems like a test of some sort
>> could be performed on the diaphragm without the spring in place,
>> letting you know whether or not the diaphragm was able to hold air
>> without leaking. Just for the record, there is a spring that holds
>> the diaphragm and the sliding piston in its lowest position. It seems
>> to me that if this spring was removed temporarily, a test could be
>> made to show the "health" of the diaphragm. It seems like I read
>> somewhere that the diaphragms need to be glued in, but not sure.
>>
>> I'm hoping to buy the DVD that Bing sells on overhauling the CV
>> carbs. I only hope it's better than the aircraft carb tuning and
>> parts manual I bought....dark pictures with arrows that point into
>> the picture, supposedly showing a particular part, but the arrow gets
>> lost in the dark picture, so you don't know where it's pointing. And
>> it was mostly geared toward ultralight carbs...very little on the CV
>> carbs.
>>
>> I see that Bing offers a service of correcting distortion in certain
>> parts, so this must be a common problem.
>>
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Grass Lake, Michigan
>> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
>> flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
>>
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2008, at 5:49 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
>>
>>> Lynn, Someone already mentioned it, But are you sure you aren't
>>> leaking air in around the carb boots. Also, you mentioned
>>> "diaphram" I have never been in a bing carb, at least not since I
>>> fooled with BSA's 100 years ago, but an early Honda interceptor
>>> gave me fits because I was't gluing the diaphrams down in the carbs
>>> that I had cleaned and was distorting them when screwing the carb
>>> top back on. I don't know, maybe?
>>>
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>> Pat Reilly
>>>
>>>> From: lynnmatt@jps.net
>>>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Bing carbs
>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:39:29 -0400
>>>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Leonard, but I'm pretty confident there's no blockage or
>>>> dirt
>>>> in the jets that I just changed. In all the carbs I've dealt with,
>>>> I've never seen a carb as clean as this carb...nothing but pretty
>>>> blue 100LL in the bowl. All jets are clean clear through. The
>>>> perplexing thing is that the engine was running fine, but I
>>> wanted to
>>>> get the EGT's down a few degrees, so I went up to the next size
>>>> needle jet, and it balked at running in the mid-range, so I went
>>> back
>>>> to the original jet, and it still balked. Obviously I screwed
>>>> something up in the mid-range transition area of the carb, but this
>>>> thing is so wonderfully simple that it's hard to see what could
>>>> have
>>>> gone wrong. I can't wait until Bing opens it's phone lines tomorrow
>>>> so I can get some suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn Matteson
>>>> Grass Lake, Michigan
>>>> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
>>>> flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 30, 2008, at 2:45 PM, akflyer wrote:
>>>>
>>> <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Make sure the jets do not have any blockage. if you go up or down
>>>>> on the jetting and it does not change, that would point towards a
>>>>> blockage in the circuit. A fine piece of wire may do it for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------
>>>>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>>>> Leonard Perry
>>>>> Soldotna AK
>>>>> Avid "C" / Mk IV
>>>>> 582 IVO IFA
>>>>> Full Lotus 1260
>>>>> 95% complete
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173706#173706
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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"....Wouldn't a (coolant) thermostat be necessary to run in winter in a cold
climate?"
Necessary? No.
Desired for comfort? Perhaps.
The engine was not designed with one, not necessary..., and there is no
minimum head temp given in the Operations Manual, (10.1 General operating
Limitations)....just the max.
Nothing wrong with running cool cylinders, and low head temps in cold
weather is just a direct reflection of coolant temps at the cylinders.
(Note: coolant temp is not being displayed on the gauge, it's head temp..)
Steve
84KF
KF5\912UL
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| Subject: | Re: gas door struts install? |
Thanks lynn that made it easier to build ones to fit mine they work great thanks
Jerry
Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote: Here's the pics, Jerry.
I've got instructions if you'd like, but it's pretty simple to
do...just a matter of figuring out where to locate the brackets so
that they allow the strut/spring to go over center when closed, but
don't allow the door to go up high enough to hit the wing. Some folks
use a cable restraint to do this, but with the proper bracket
locating method, this isn't necessary.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
On Mar 28, 2008, at 6:57 PM, jerry evans wrote:
> How are you guys installing the strut to the door frames and inside
> the plane ANY pictures? Thanks Jerry
>
> Jerry Evans
> 96% done 582
> Magalia Calif.
> N582'er'
> kitfox 555
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Jerry Evans
96% done 582
Magalia Calif.
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kitfox 555
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Lookin to get rolling on my cowl mounting before my prop and spinner are delivered.
I have a Series 7 with a 912s using a 2" extension. I am going to use a
Warp Drive prop and an 11" UHS spinner. I am just wondering if the the rear
rim of the spinner is flush with the front face of the 2" prop extension. If
so, I could make a plate the diameter of the spinner at its base to situate/center
my cowl. If you know off hand, let me know!
Thanks
Wade
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