Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Wed 04/02/08


Total Messages Posted: 33



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     1. 06:08 AM - Re: Re: skis (Noel Loveys)
     2. 06:10 AM - Re: Re: skis (Noel Loveys)
     3. 06:46 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (FlyboyTR)
     4. 06:46 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (FlyboyTR)
     5. 07:04 AM - Re: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (Sbennett3@aol.com)
     6. 07:16 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (FlyboyTR)
     7. 07:49 AM - Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (kitfoxjunky)
     8. 08:08 AM - Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (dcsfoto)
     9. 08:10 AM - Re: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (Ted Palamarek)
    10. 08:28 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (FlyboyTR)
    11. 08:50 AM - Re: Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (kitfoxjunky)
    12. 09:27 AM - Re: Need Grove Axles P/N 5011 (Southern Skies)
    13. 12:56 PM - Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (Fred Shiple)
    14. 01:07 PM - Weight and Balance Excel program (kj7sr@earthlink.net)
    15. 01:21 PM - Bungees (Tom Jones)
    16. 01:52 PM - Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (Pete Christensen)
    17. 02:07 PM - Re: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (Lynn Matteson)
    18. 02:46 PM - Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (Noel Loveys)
    19. 03:37 PM - TCP (Pete Christensen)
    20. 05:06 PM - Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
    21. 05:12 PM - Re: TCP (Rick)
    22. 06:00 PM - Re: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (Mdkitfox)
    23. 06:12 PM - Bungee Gear Leg (corbob13)
    24. 06:59 PM - Re: Weight and Balance Excel program (Michael Gibbs)
    25. 07:24 PM - Re: Weight and Balance Excel program ()
    26. 07:41 PM - Re: Bungee Gear Leg (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
    27. 08:07 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (FlyboyTR)
    28. 08:57 PM - Re: Bungee Gear Leg (Michael Gibbs)
    29. 09:37 PM - Re: Bungee Gear Leg (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
    30. 09:42 PM - CAMPING AT AIRVENTURE OSHKOSHRe: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (Robert Harris)
    31. 10:45 PM - Desert Fox Squadron Fly-in Photos (Michael Gibbs)
    32. 11:19 PM - EFIS One Price Slashed!! (cdwambolt)
    33. 11:23 PM - Re: CAMPING AT AIRVENTURE OSHKOSHRe: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (william Mills)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:08:16 AM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: skis
    I'll check and see if I can come up with something for you. Noel From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Daughenbaugh Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:53 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: skis Noel, Do you know the part number and source of the appropriate valve? I have pestered people at parts stores and parts departments and have not found any that work. I plumbed my cabin heat core in parallel with the radiator and have a shut off valve that stops the flow to the heater core. There is still a lot of coolant that goes to the radiator. I have thought of a restriction in front of the radiator, but it is a safety issue. Randy - kinda cold in the winter. .. _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:01 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: skis To get the most heat out of a liquid cooling system you need to be able to divert coolant from the radiator to the heater, just as is done in cars. This means another special valve and re-plumbing the cooling system. When that is done there is obviously less cooling area in operation so even in winter the coolant will achieve hotter temperatures and you will get much hotter temperatures in your cockpit. I expect without a thermostat you will be taking a chance on cold shocking your engine if you turn off the interior heat while in flight. Even with a thermostat I'd operate that heat control very slowly, keeping an eye on the temperature gauge. Also put the control on the left side of the cockpit so a passenger won't have access to it You can also try plumbing your heater in series with the radiator that way the hottest water, leaving the engine will pass through your heater core before the radiator. Doing that will save weight but you won't have any control over the heat other than the fan. It will allow the whole system to operate more efficiently but in the summer, more sq inches of radiator in operation, but you may want to fly with the doors left back on the ground.


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    Time: 06:10:29 AM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: skis
    In the meantime you could use two simple ball valves, one each on the rad and the heater. Noel From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Daughenbaugh Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:53 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: skis Noel, Do you know the part number and source of the appropriate valve? I have pestered people at parts stores and parts departments and have not found any that work. I plumbed my cabin heat core in parallel with the radiator and have a shut off valve that stops the flow to the heater core. There is still a lot of coolant that goes to the radiator. I have thought of a restriction in front of the radiator, but it is a safety issue. Randy - kinda cold in the winter. .. _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:01 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: skis To get the most heat out of a liquid cooling system you need to be able to divert coolant from the radiator to the heater, just as is done in cars. This means another special valve and re-plumbing the cooling system. When that is done there is obviously less cooling area in operation so even in winter the coolant will achieve hotter temperatures and you will get much hotter temperatures in your cockpit. I expect without a thermostat you will be taking a chance on cold shocking your engine if you turn off the interior heat while in flight. Even with a thermostat I'd operate that heat control very slowly, keeping an eye on the temperature gauge. Also put the control on the left side of the cockpit so a passenger won't have access to it You can also try plumbing your heater in series with the radiator that way the hottest water, leaving the engine will pass through your heater core before the radiator. Doing that will save weight but you won't have any control over the heat other than the fan. It will allow the whole system to operate more efficiently but in the summer, more sq inches of radiator in operation, but you may want to fly with the doors left back on the ground.


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    Time: 06:46:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
    From: "FlyboyTR" <flyboytr@bellsouth.net>
    Update on our SNF plans. We will depart Mobile, AL Thursday afternoon 4/10/08, and fly to Quincy, FL (2J9) northwest of Tallahassee and spend the night. Hotel is about a mile from the airport...not a bad walk! Depart early Friday morning for the last leg to SNF. Again, we will be landing/camping in the UL area. Just look for "Hotel Vixen!" (picture attached). Let's try to get a fix on exactly who is going to be there! ...Hope we're not alone! Travis :D -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop IFR with Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174325#174325 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/snf_07_around_our_camp06_197.jpg


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    Time: 06:46:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
    From: "FlyboyTR" <flyboytr@bellsouth.net>
    Bump for SNF -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop IFR with Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174326#174326


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    Time: 07:04:19 AM PST US
    From: Sbennett3@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
    Travis, My friend Luis and I are flying down fron NC/SC in our 4-1200's on 4/8. We'll also be camping in the ultalight side. Steve Bennett Durham NC. **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)


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    Time: 07:16:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
    From: "FlyboyTR" <flyboytr@bellsouth.net>
    Steve, Glad to hear it! Send me a PM is you would like to swap cell numbers. Look forward to meeting you! Travis :D -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop IFR with Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174334#174334


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    Time: 07:49:25 AM PST US
    From: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
    Subject: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder
    Airplane has been encased in ice of late. Life in the Great White North...sigh. Yesterday was warm so I went out to fire up the engine. Turning the prop by hand showed more resistance on one of the compression strokes. I pulled the plugs and one cylinder had oil in it...about a half a cup or so. I have seen this before when the plane sat for awhile. Oil seems to seep into the cylinders...probably because the oil tank is on the top of the engine and it syphons into the crankcase and it seeps past the rings over time. Last time it was one of the rear cylinders..but I was on wheels then. This time a front...on anphibs it sits slightly nose down. Anyone else see this kind of thing? Hopefully so. I am hoping I do not have a ring issue or something like that. Gary Walsh KF IV Anphib 912S C-GOOT www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox do not archive


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    Time: 08:08:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder
    From: "dcsfoto" <david@kelm.com>
    the airplane dealer across from me some time ago when I got a Model 3 with a 912 uls that it is important to hand prop as this is a common problem when the oil tank is mounted high. David Model 7/ 912S and 3/ 912 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174343#174343


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    Time: 08:10:32 AM PST US
    From: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
    Subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
    Hello Travis Out of curiosity --- what is the orange thing hanging under the wing visible in the picture? DO NOT Archive Ted Palamarek Edmonton Ab KF IV1200/912ul -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FlyboyTR Sent: April 2, 2008 7:43 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? Update on our SNF plans. We will depart Mobile, AL Thursday afternoon 4/10/08, and fly to Quincy, FL (2J9) northwest of Tallahassee and spend the night. Hotel is about a mile from the airport...not a bad walk! Depart early Friday morning for the last leg to SNF. Again, we will be landing/camping in the UL area. Just look for "Hotel Vixen!" (picture attached). Let's try to get a fix on exactly who is going to be there! ...Hope we're not alone! Travis :D -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop IFR with Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174325#174325 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/snf_07_around_our_camp06_197.jpg


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    Time: 08:28:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
    From: "FlyboyTR" <flyboytr@bellsouth.net>
    Ted, It is a short section of orange noodle with orange ribbon attached (a noodle like you use in a swimming pool). It is split on one side and slides over the pitot tube. The pitot tube is in the perfect location to be accidentally walked into. We carry it when we know the plane will be parked where there is the potential for folks to stroll by! I have added another pictures that shows it a little better. Better safe than sorry! Travis :D -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop IFR with Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174355#174355 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/snf_07_around_our_camp09_161.jpg


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    Time: 08:50:00 AM PST US
    From: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder
    Thanks David. Makes me feel better. Gary Walsh KF IV Anphib 912S C-GOOT www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox do not archive the airplane dealer across from me some time ago when I got a Model 3 with a 912 uls that it is important to hand prop as this is a common problem when the oil tank is mounted high. David Model 7/ 912S and 3/ 912 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174343#174343


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    Time: 09:27:32 AM PST US
    From: Southern Skies <chris@southernskies.net>
    Subject: Re: Need Grove Axles P/N 5011
    Grove Gear is currently sold out of this Axle: http://www.groveaircraft.com/5011.html Kitfox is also sold out. Grove says they need 3 month to make more. I need two of them as I am converting from the 6" Matco Wheels to the original 8" Atv Wheels and the existing Axles are too short. I don't want to wait this long. Please contact me directly if you have 2 of these- the long, Grove Axles for ATV wheels from the link above- I'll buy them. Thank you Chris Bowles Kitfox III N727PD chris@southernskies.net (828) 632-6000


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    Time: 12:56:42 PM PST US
    From: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder
    Gary, I experienced the same thing on floats. No oil as tail dragger, resistance and oil in a cylinder after sitting on floats (wintertime). Like you, i remember to pull thru before starting. Fred Airplane has been encased in ice of late. Life in the Great White


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    Time: 01:07:19 PM PST US
    From: "kj7sr@earthlink.net" <kj7sr@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Weight and Balance Excel program
    About a year ago someone sent me an Excel program they used to compute theCG in their Kitfox. Would you please share it again. Do not archive Chuck Bloom Model IV Missoula, MT kj7sr@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.


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    Time: 01:21:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Bungees
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    It is time for a condition inspection on my Classic 4 already. I want to make my own landing gear bungees this time. It seems like I found the procedure for making the end loops using either rib lacing cord or safety wire and filed it away where I can't find it now. I think it was in AC43.13-1B. Can someone point me to where it was I saw it or describe the procedure? I could be wrong about it being in AC43.13-1B because I sure can't find it there now. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174390#174390


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    Time: 01:52:34 PM PST US
    From: Pete Christensen <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder
    I'm a new owner and just had main annualed by Murle Williams. I had oil in my cyl's and Murle said it was common from sitting. Pete Kitfox III N73BH kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com> wrote: Airplane has been encased in ice of late. Life in the Great White North...sigh. Yesterday was warm so I went out to fire up the engine. Turning the prop by hand showed more resistance on one of the compression strokes. I pulled the plugs and one cylinder had oil in it...about a half a cup or so. I have seen this before when the plane sat for awhile. Oil seems to seep into the cylinders...probably because the oil tank is on the top of the engine and it syphons into the crankcase and it seeps past the rings over time. Last time it was one of the rear cylinders..but I was on wheels then. This time a front...on anphibs it sits slightly nose down. Anyone else see this kind of thing? Hopefully so. I am hoping I do not have a ring issue or something like that. Gary Walsh KF IV Anphib 912S C-GOOT www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox do not archive


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    Time: 02:07:12 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
    Leaving here (Mich) Sat or Sun, 5th or 6th, camping in Homebuilt. Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual do not archive On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:42 AM, FlyboyTR wrote: > > Update on our SNF plans. We will depart Mobile, AL Thursday > afternoon 4/10/08, and fly to Quincy, FL (2J9) northwest of > Tallahassee and spend the night. Hotel is about a mile from the > airport...not a bad walk! Depart early Friday morning for the last > leg to SNF. > > Again, we will be landing/camping in the UL area. Just look for > "Hotel Vixen!" (picture attached). > > Let's try to get a fix on exactly who is going to be > there! ...Hope we're not alone! > > Travis :D > > -------- > Travis Rayner > Mobile, AL > Skystar Vixen, N-789DF > Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop > IFR with Autopilot > AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174325#174325 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/snf_07_around_our_camp06_197.jpg > >


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    Time: 02:46:42 PM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder
    With the radial engines, also dry sump, they used to say to wait until twelve blades (four blade prop) passed the window before turning on the mags. The phenomenon called hydraulic lock where lower cylinders can fill with oil and can actually have the cylinders blown off the engine when other cylinders fire. You are doing good... keep checking before each start. Noel From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxjunky Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:17 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder Airplane has been encased in ice of late. Life in the Great White North...sigh. Yesterday was warm so I went out to fire up the engine. Turning the prop by hand showed more resistance on one of the compression strokes. I pulled the plugs and one cylinder had oil in it...about a half a cup or so. I have seen this before when the plane sat for awhile. Oil seems to seep into the cylinders...probably because the oil tank is on the top of the engine and it syphons into the crankcase and it seeps past the rings over time. Last time it was one of the rear cylinders..but I was on wheels then. This time a front...on anphibs it sits slightly nose down. Anyone else see this kind of thing? Hopefully so. I am hoping I do not have a ring issue or something like that. Gary Walsh KF IV Anphib 912S C-GOOT www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox do not archive


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    Time: 03:37:18 PM PST US
    From: Pete Christensen <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: TCP
    I read that Marvel Mystery oil is a substitute for TCP. Any experience out there? Pete Christensen Kitfox III N73BH http://www.pipercubforum.com/marvel.htm


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    Time: 05:06:17 PM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder


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    Time: 05:12:16 PM PST US
    From: "Rick" <wingsdown@verizon.net>
    Subject: TCP
    I actually used both but they do totally different things. Marvel is a lubricant and the TCP works to keep lead deposits soft and blown out. At leasts that's how I understand it. I now prefer the Lucas fuel treatment to the marvel and I have no need of the TCP. There is also another product that's does the same thing as TCP. I do not recall the name though. If you are using auto fuel you do not need the TCP. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete Christensen Sent: 2008-04-02 15:34 Subject: Kitfox-List: TCP I read that Marvel Mystery oil is a substitute for TCP. Any experience out there? Pete Christensen Kitfox III N73BH http://www.pipercubforum.com/marvel.htm


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    Time: 06:00:59 PM PST US
    From: Mdkitfox <mdkitfox@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
    Lynn, Travis. others, I'll be at SNF (working) from Wednesday PM thru Saturday. If you are in the FAA building please stop by. I'll be working for them in the ADS-B booth. Would like to make contact and see some Kifoxes while I'm there. Later, Rick Weiss Series V Speedster, 912S Daytona Beach cell: 301-502-8029 In a message dated 04/02/08 17:08:22 Eastern Daylight Time, lynnmatt@jps.net writes: Leaving here (Mich) Sat or Sun, 5th or 6th, camping in Homebuilt. Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual do not archive On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:42 AM, FlyboyTR wrote: > > Update on our SNF plans. We will depart Mobile, AL Thursday > afternoon 4/10/08, and fly to Quincy, FL (2J9) northwest of > Tallahassee and spend the night. Hotel is about a mile from the > airport...not a bad walk! Depart early Friday morning for the last > leg to SNF. > > Again, we will be landing/camping in the UL area. Just look for > "Hotel Vixen!" (picture attached). > > Let's try to get a fix on exactly who is going to be > there! ...Hope we're not alone! > > Travis :D > > -------- > Travis Rayner > Mobile, AL > Skystar Vixen, N-789DF > Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop > IFR with Autopilot > AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174325#174325 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/snf_07_around_our_camp06_197.jpg > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:12:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Bungee Gear Leg
    From: "corbob13" <corbob13@netnet.net>
    Guys, I recent bought and, just on Sunday, started flying a Kitfox Model II. I've flown in it a few times, but no take-offs or landings. On Sunday I was out with my instructor (working on my tailwheel endorsement) and on our first landing the left side gear leg collapsed during roll out. The field was soft, as was the landing, but the plane just tipped onto its side. Luckily no damage other than the gear. I assume it is the result of fatigue from earlier poor landings. I looked the plane over quite thoroughly before buying and noticed nothing, as well as during the preflight. Has there been an issue with the gear on the Model IIs? Most importantly is there someone out there who has a set of legs, or just the left, and would be willing to sell it? Kitfox Aircraft can't help, I've already called them; all they can offer is a new spring gear, for which I currently don't have the money. If no one has a used gear available are there any other sources of parts for me? My last resort is fabricating a new leg, which I can do if I must, but I'd prefer to buy something complete. -------- Cory N906DB Kitfox Model II, Rotax 582 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174461#174461


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    Time: 06:59:35 PM PST US
    From: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Weight and Balance Excel program
    Chuck sez: >About a year ago someone sent me an Excel program they used to >compute theCG in their Kitfox. Would you please share it again. You can download one from Murle Williams' web site. Visit <http://murlewilliamsaviation.com/> and click the "Downloads" under the picture of his Series 5 Kitfox. Mike G. N728KF Phoenix, AZ


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    Time: 07:24:41 PM PST US
    From: <frank.phyllis@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Weight and Balance Excel program
    Chuck Attached is an excel program someone shared with me. Frank N5929 -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kj7sr@earthlink.net Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:05 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Weight and Balance Excel program About a year ago someone sent me an Excel program they used to compute theCG in their Kitfox. Would you please share it again. Do not archive Chuck Bloom Model IV Missoula, MT kj7sr@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.


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    Time: 07:41:59 PM PST US
    From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk <thesupe@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Bungee Gear Leg
    You might try Airdale/Avid, the early Kitfox was an Avid copy (here we go again) and perhaps the gear legs are the same. Leave Steve a message and he should get back to you. Their number is 1-208-459-6254 Jim Chuk Avid s Mn.> Subject: Kitfox-List: Bungee Gear Leg> From: corbob13@netnet.net> D ate: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:09:48 -0700> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > --> K itfox-List message posted by: "corbob13" <corbob13@netnet.net>> > Guys,> I recent bought and, just on Sunday, started flying a Kitfox Model II. I've f lown in it a few times, but no take-offs or landings. On Sunday I was out w ith my instructor (working on my tailwheel endorsement) and on our first la nding the left side gear leg collapsed during roll out. The field was soft, as was the landing, but the plane just tipped onto its side. Luckily no da mage other than the gear.> > I assume it is the result of fatigue from earl ier poor landings. I looked the plane over quite thoroughly before buying a nd noticed nothing, as well as during the preflight. Has there been an issu e with the gear on the Model IIs?> > Most importantly is there someone out there who has a set of legs, or just the left, and would be willing to sell it? Kitfox Aircraft can't help, I've already called them; all they can off er is a new spring gear, for which I currently don't have the money. If no one has a used gear available are there any other sources of parts for me? My last resort is fabricating a new leg, which I can do if I must, but I'd prefer to buy something complete.> > --------> Cory> > N906DB> Kitfox Model II, Rotax 582> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matro ===================> > > _________________________________________________________________ Pack up or back up'use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. L earn how. hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Ref resh_skydrive_packup_042008


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    Time: 08:07:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
    From: "FlyboyTR" <flyboytr@bellsouth.net>
    Rick, I'll keep your cell # handy. Look forward to meeting you. Travis :) -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop IFR with Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174501#174501


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    Time: 08:57:41 PM PST US
    From: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
    Subject: Bungee Gear Leg
    Jim sez: >...the early Kitfox was an Avid copy (here we go again)... Then why start it again? Mike G.


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    Time: 09:37:55 PM PST US
    From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk <thesupe@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Bungee Gear Leg
    Don't mean to start a fight, he seemed new to Kitfoxes and might wonder why I said try Avid for a Kitfox gear leg. Do not archive Jim Chuk Avids Mn> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:54:34 -0700> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> F rom: MichaelGibbs@cox.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Bungee Gear Leg> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>> > Jim sez:> > >...the early Kitfox was an Avid copy (here we go again)...> > The =============> > > _________________________________________________________________ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refr esh_instantaccess_042008


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    Time: 09:42:08 PM PST US
    From: Robert Harris <kitfox_robert@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What
    are your plans? Does any one know if you can camp at Airventure in Okskosh if your drive in? Wish I could fly but my family of six will not fit in my Kitfox. Robert San Diego V/0200 ----- Original Message ---- From: "Sbennett3@aol.com" <Sbennett3@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 7:00:41 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? Travis, My friend Luis and I are flying down fron NC/SC in our 4-1200's on 4/8. We'll also be camping in the ultalight side. Steve Bennett Durham NC. Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com


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    Time: 10:45:06 PM PST US
    From: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
    Subject: Desert Fox Squadron Fly-in Photos
    Hi all, I thought there might be some interest in these photos from the 8th annual Desert Fox Squadron fly-in this last weekend. Enjoy! Mike G. N728KF Phoenix, AZ


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    Time: 11:19:50 PM PST US
    Subject: EFIS One Price Slashed!!
    From: "cdwambolt" <cdwambolt@cox.net>
    Well OK, I dropped it a little, and added OBO. BLUE MOUNTAIN EFIS ONE $7,200 OBO FOR SALE Never flown, just back from BMA with memory upgrade and a clean bill of health. This unit provides: Autopilot (servos sold separately), ADI/HSI, compass, Airspeed, Altimeter, Altitude alerter, encoder, VSI, Slip/Skid, Turn and Bank, Clock, OAT, GPS, Moving map, Navigation database, Fuel totalizer, Flight data recorder, Fuel Level, Fuel Flow, Tachometer, Manifold Press, Coolant Temp, Voltmeter, Oil Press, Oil Temp, CHT, EGT, Ammeter, no need for vacuum system Asking less than 1/2 price of new, $7200 OBO Thanks Larry 602-363-2888 Charlie 602-763-7131 -------- C D Wambolt RV-8 Fastback (Showplanes) N8390 CHD (Chandler AZ) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174522#174522


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    Time: 11:23:01 PM PST US
    From: "william Mills" <wtrooper@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008:
    What are your plans? Robert - Camp Scholler is a drive-in campground. See: http://www.airventure.org/2007/news/061213_housing.html Bill On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Robert Harris <kitfox_robert@yahoo.com> wrote: > Does any one know if you can camp at Airventure in Okskosh if your drive > in? Wish I could fly but my family of six will not fit in my Kitfox. > > > Robert > San Diego > V/0200 > >




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