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     1. 06:08 AM - Re: Re: skis (Noel Loveys)
     2. 06:10 AM - Re: Re: skis (Noel Loveys)
     3. 06:46 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (FlyboyTR)
     4. 06:46 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (FlyboyTR)
     5. 07:04 AM - Re: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (Sbennett3@aol.com)
     6. 07:16 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (FlyboyTR)
     7. 07:49 AM - Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (kitfoxjunky)
     8. 08:08 AM - Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (dcsfoto)
     9. 08:10 AM - Re: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (Ted Palamarek)
    10. 08:28 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (FlyboyTR)
    11. 08:50 AM - Re: Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (kitfoxjunky)
    12. 09:27 AM - Re: Need Grove Axles P/N 5011 (Southern Skies)
    13. 12:56 PM - Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (Fred Shiple)
    14. 01:07 PM - Weight and Balance Excel program (kj7sr@earthlink.net)
    15. 01:21 PM - Bungees (Tom Jones)
    16. 01:52 PM - Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (Pete Christensen)
    17. 02:07 PM - Re: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (Lynn Matteson)
    18. 02:46 PM - Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (Noel Loveys)
    19. 03:37 PM - TCP (Pete Christensen)
    20. 05:06 PM - Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
    21. 05:12 PM - Re: TCP (Rick)
    22. 06:00 PM - Re: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (Mdkitfox)
    23. 06:12 PM - Bungee Gear Leg (corbob13)
    24. 06:59 PM - Re: Weight and Balance Excel program (Michael Gibbs)
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    26. 07:41 PM - Re: Bungee Gear Leg (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
    27. 08:07 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (FlyboyTR)
    28. 08:57 PM - Re: Bungee Gear Leg (Michael Gibbs)
    29. 09:37 PM - Re: Bungee Gear Leg (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
    30. 09:42 PM - CAMPING AT AIRVENTURE OSHKOSHRe: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (Robert Harris)
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      I'll check and see if I can come up with something for you.
      
      
      Noel
      
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
      Daughenbaugh
      Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:53 PM
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: skis
      
      
      Noel,
      
      Do you know the part number and source of the appropriate valve?  I have
      pestered people at parts stores and parts departments and have not found any
      that work.  I plumbed my cabin heat core in parallel with the radiator and
      have a shut off valve that stops the flow to the heater core.  There is
      still a lot of coolant that goes to the radiator.  I have thought of a
      restriction in front of the radiator, but it is a safety issue.
      
      
      Randy - kinda cold in the winter.
      
      
      ..           
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
      Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:01 AM
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: skis
      
      
      To get the most heat out of a liquid cooling system you need to be able to
      divert coolant from the radiator to the heater, just as is done in cars.
      This means another special valve and re-plumbing the cooling system.  When
      that is done there is obviously less cooling area in operation so even in
      winter the coolant will achieve hotter temperatures and you will get much
      hotter temperatures in your cockpit.  I expect without a thermostat you will
      be taking a chance on cold shocking your engine if you turn off the interior
      heat while in flight.  Even with a thermostat I'd operate that heat control
      very slowly, keeping an eye on the temperature gauge.  Also put the control
      on the left side of the cockpit so a passenger won't have access to it
      
      
      You can also try plumbing your heater in series with the radiator that way
      the hottest water, leaving the engine will pass through your heater core
      before the radiator.  Doing that will save weight but you won't have any
      control over the heat other than the fan.  It will allow the whole system to
      operate more efficiently but in the summer, more sq inches of radiator in
      operation, but you may want to fly with the doors left back on the ground.
      
      
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      In the meantime you could use two simple ball valves, one each on the rad
      and the heater.
      
      
      Noel
      
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
      Daughenbaugh
      Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:53 PM
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: skis
      
      
      Noel,
      
      Do you know the part number and source of the appropriate valve?  I have
      pestered people at parts stores and parts departments and have not found any
      that work.  I plumbed my cabin heat core in parallel with the radiator and
      have a shut off valve that stops the flow to the heater core.  There is
      still a lot of coolant that goes to the radiator.  I have thought of a
      restriction in front of the radiator, but it is a safety issue.
      
      
      Randy - kinda cold in the winter.
      
      
      ..           
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
      Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:01 AM
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: skis
      
      
      To get the most heat out of a liquid cooling system you need to be able to
      divert coolant from the radiator to the heater, just as is done in cars.
      This means another special valve and re-plumbing the cooling system.  When
      that is done there is obviously less cooling area in operation so even in
      winter the coolant will achieve hotter temperatures and you will get much
      hotter temperatures in your cockpit.  I expect without a thermostat you will
      be taking a chance on cold shocking your engine if you turn off the interior
      heat while in flight.  Even with a thermostat I'd operate that heat control
      very slowly, keeping an eye on the temperature gauge.  Also put the control
      on the left side of the cockpit so a passenger won't have access to it
      
      
      You can also try plumbing your heater in series with the radiator that way
      the hottest water, leaving the engine will pass through your heater core
      before the radiator.  Doing that will save weight but you won't have any
      control over the heat other than the fan.  It will allow the whole system to
      operate more efficiently but in the summer, more sq inches of radiator in
      operation, but you may want to fly with the doors left back on the ground.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? | 
      
      
      Update on our SNF plans.  We will depart Mobile, AL Thursday afternoon 4/10/08,
      and fly to Quincy, FL (2J9) northwest of Tallahassee and spend the night. Hotel
      is about a mile from the airport...not a bad walk!  Depart early Friday morning
      for the last leg to SNF.
      
      Again, we will be landing/camping in the UL area.  Just look for "Hotel Vixen!"
      (picture attached).
      
      Let's try to get a fix on exactly who is going to be there!  ...Hope we're not
      alone!
      
      Travis   :D
      
      --------
      Travis Rayner
      Mobile, AL
      Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
      Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop
      IFR with Autopilot
      AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174325#174325
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/snf_07_around_our_camp06_197.jpg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? | 
      
      
      Bump for SNF
      
      --------
      Travis Rayner
      Mobile, AL
      Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
      Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop
      IFR with Autopilot
      AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174326#174326
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? | 
      
      Travis, My friend Luis and I are flying down fron NC/SC in our  4-1200's on 
      4/8. We'll also be camping in the ultalight side.  Steve  Bennett  Durham NC.
      
      
      **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL 
      Home.      
      (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? | 
      
      
      Steve,
      Glad to hear it!  Send me a PM is you would like to swap cell numbers.  Look forward
      to meeting you!
      
      Travis  :D
      
      --------
      Travis Rayner
      Mobile, AL
      Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
      Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop
      IFR with Autopilot
      AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174334#174334
      
      
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| Subject:  | Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder | 
      
      Airplane has been encased in ice of late.  Life in the Great White 
      North...sigh.
      
      Yesterday was warm so I went out to fire up the engine.   Turning the prop 
      by hand showed more resistance on one of the compression strokes. I pulled 
      the plugs and one cylinder had oil in it...about a half a cup or so.  I 
      have seen this before when the plane sat for awhile. Oil seems to seep 
      into the cylinders...probably because the oil tank is on the top of the 
      engine and it syphons into the crankcase and it seeps past the rings over 
      time.   Last time it was one of the rear cylinders..but I was on wheels 
      then. This time a front...on anphibs it sits slightly nose down. 
      
      Anyone else see this kind of thing?   Hopefully so.   I am hoping I do not 
      have a ring issue or something like that. 
      
      
      Gary Walsh
      KF IV  Anphib 912S
      C-GOOT
      www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
      
      do not archive
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder | 
      
      
      the airplane dealer across from me some time ago when I got a Model 3 with a 912
      uls  that it is important to hand prop as this is a common problem when the
      oil tank is mounted high.
      
      David  Model 7/ 912S and 3/ 912
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174343#174343
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? | 
      
      
      Hello Travis
      
      Out of curiosity --- what is the orange thing hanging under the wing visible
      in the picture?
      
      DO NOT Archive
      
      Ted Palamarek
      Edmonton Ab
      KF IV1200/912ul
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FlyboyTR
      Sent: April 2, 2008 7:43 AM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
      
      
      Update on our SNF plans.  We will depart Mobile, AL Thursday afternoon
      4/10/08, and fly to Quincy, FL (2J9) northwest of Tallahassee and spend the
      night. Hotel is about a mile from the airport...not a bad walk!  Depart
      early Friday morning for the last leg to SNF.
      
      Again, we will be landing/camping in the UL area.  Just look for "Hotel
      Vixen!" (picture attached).
      
      Let's try to get a fix on exactly who is going to be there!  ...Hope we're
      not alone!
      
      Travis   :D
      
      --------
      Travis Rayner
      Mobile, AL
      Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
      Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop
      IFR with Autopilot
      AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174325#174325
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/snf_07_around_our_camp06_197.jpg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? | 
      
      
      Ted,
      It is a short section of orange noodle with orange ribbon attached (a noodle like
      you use in a swimming pool).  It is split on one side and slides over the pitot
      tube.  The pitot tube is in the perfect location to be accidentally walked
      into.  We carry it when we know the plane will be parked where there is the
      potential for folks to stroll by!  I have added another pictures that shows it
      a little better.
      
      Better safe than sorry!
      
      Travis   :D
      
      --------
      Travis Rayner
      Mobile, AL
      Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
      Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop
      IFR with Autopilot
      AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174355#174355
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/snf_07_around_our_camp09_161.jpg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder | 
      
      Thanks David. Makes me feel better.
      
      Gary Walsh
      KF IV  Anphib 912S
      C-GOOT
      www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
      
      do not archive
      
      
      
      the airplane dealer across from me some time ago when I got a Model 3 with 
      a 912 uls  that it is important to hand prop as this is a common problem 
      when the oil tank is mounted high.
      
      David  Model 7/ 912S and 3/ 912
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174343#174343
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Need Grove Axles P/N 5011 | 
      
      
      Grove Gear is currently sold out of this Axle:
      
      http://www.groveaircraft.com/5011.html
      
      Kitfox is also sold out. Grove says they need 3 month to make more.
      
      I need two of them as I am converting from the 6" Matco Wheels to the original
      8" Atv Wheels and the existing Axles are too short. I don't want to wait this
      long.
      
      Please contact me directly if you have 2 of these- the long, Grove Axles for ATV
      wheels from the link above- I'll buy them.
      
      Thank you
      
      Chris Bowles
      Kitfox III  N727PD
      chris@southernskies.net
      (828) 632-6000
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder | 
      
      Gary, 
      I experienced the same thing on floats. No oil as tail dragger, resistance and
      oil in a cylinder after sitting on floats (wintertime).  Like you, i remember
      to pull thru before starting. 
      Fred
      
      
      Airplane has been encased in ice of late.  Life in the Great White 
      
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| Subject:  | Weight and Balance Excel program | 
      
      About a year ago someone sent me an Excel program they used to compute theCG in
      their Kitfox. Would you please share it again.
      
      Do not archive
      
      Chuck Bloom
      Model IV
      Missoula, MT
      
      
      kj7sr@earthlink.net
      EarthLink Revolves Around You.
      
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      It is time for a condition inspection on my Classic 4 already. I want to make my
      own landing gear bungees this time. It seems like I found the procedure for
      making the end loops using either rib lacing cord or safety wire and filed it
      away where I can't find it now. I think it was in AC43.13-1B. Can someone point
      me to where it was I saw it or describe the procedure? I could be wrong about
      it being in AC43.13-1B because I sure can't find it there now.
      
      --------
      Tom Jones
      Classic IV
      503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
      Ellensburg, WA
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174390#174390
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder | 
      
      I'm a new owner and just had main annualed by Murle Williams.  I had oil in my
      cyl's and Murle said it was common from sitting.
         
        Pete
        Kitfox III N73BH
      
      kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com> wrote:
      
      Airplane has been encased in ice of late.  Life in the Great White North...sigh.
      
      
      Yesterday was warm so I went out to fire up the engine.   Turning the prop by hand
      showed more resistance on one of the compression strokes. I pulled the plugs
      and one cylinder had oil in it...about a half a cup or so.  I have seen this
      before when the plane sat for awhile. Oil seems to seep into the cylinders...probably
      because the oil tank is on the top of the engine and it syphons into
      the crankcase and it seeps past the rings over time.   Last time it was one of
      the rear cylinders..but I was on wheels then. This time a front...on anphibs
      it sits slightly nose down. 
      
      Anyone else see this kind of thing?   Hopefully so.   I am hoping I do not have
      a ring issue or something like that. 
      
      
      Gary Walsh
      KF IV  Anphib 912S
      C-GOOT
      www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? | 
      
      
      Leaving here (Mich) Sat or Sun, 5th or 6th, camping in Homebuilt.
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Grass Lake, Michigan
      Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200
      flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
      do not archive
      
      
      On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:42 AM, FlyboyTR wrote:
      
      >
      > Update on our SNF plans.  We will depart Mobile, AL Thursday  
      > afternoon 4/10/08, and fly to Quincy, FL (2J9) northwest of  
      > Tallahassee and spend the night. Hotel is about a mile from the  
      > airport...not a bad walk!  Depart early Friday morning for the last  
      > leg to SNF.
      >
      > Again, we will be landing/camping in the UL area.  Just look for  
      > "Hotel Vixen!" (picture attached).
      >
      > Let's try to get a fix on exactly who is going to be  
      > there!  ...Hope we're not alone!
      >
      > Travis   :D
      >
      > --------
      > Travis Rayner
      > Mobile, AL
      > Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
      > Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop
      > IFR with Autopilot
      > AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174325#174325
      >
      >
      > Attachments:
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      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/snf_07_around_our_camp06_197.jpg
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder | 
      
      With the radial engines, also dry sump, they used to say to wait until
      twelve blades (four blade prop) passed the window before turning on the
      mags.  The phenomenon called hydraulic lock where lower cylinders can fill
      with oil and can actually have the cylinders blown off the engine when other
      cylinders fire.  You are doing good... keep checking before each start.
      
      
      Noel
      
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxjunky
      Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:17 PM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder
      
      
      Airplane has been encased in ice of late.  Life in the Great White
      North...sigh. 
      
      Yesterday was warm so I went out to fire up the engine.   Turning the prop
      by hand showed more resistance on one of the compression strokes. I pulled
      the plugs and one cylinder had oil in it...about a half a cup or so.  I have
      seen this before when the plane sat for awhile. Oil seems to seep into the
      cylinders...probably because the oil tank is on the top of the engine and it
      syphons into the crankcase and it seeps past the rings over time.   Last
      time it was one of the rear cylinders..but I was on wheels then. This time a
      front...on anphibs it sits slightly nose down. 
      
      Anyone else see this kind of thing?   Hopefully so.   I am hoping I do not
      have a ring issue or something like that. 
      
      
      Gary Walsh
      KF IV  Anphib 912S
      C-GOOT
      www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
      
      do not archive
      
      
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      I read that Marvel Mystery oil is a substitute for TCP.  Any experience out there?
      
         
         
        Pete Christensen
        Kitfox III N73BH
         
        http://www.pipercubforum.com/marvel.htm
      
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| Subject:  | Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder | 
      
      
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      I actually used both but they do totally different things. Marvel is a
      lubricant and the TCP works to keep lead deposits soft and blown out. At
      leasts that's how I understand it. I now prefer the Lucas fuel treatment
      to the marvel and I have no need of the TCP. There is also another
      product that's does the same thing as TCP. I do not recall the name
      though. If you are using auto fuel you do not need the TCP.
      
      Rick
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete
      Christensen
      Sent: 2008-04-02 15:34
      Subject: Kitfox-List: TCP
      
      
      I read that Marvel Mystery oil is a substitute for TCP.  Any experience
      out there?  
      
      
      Pete Christensen
      Kitfox III N73BH
      
      http://www.pipercubforum.com/marvel.htm
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? | 
      
      Lynn, Travis. others,
      
      I'll be at SNF (working) from Wednesday PM thru Saturday.  If you are in the FAA
      building please stop by.  I'll be working for them in the ADS-B booth.  Would
      like to make contact and see some Kifoxes while I'm there.
      
      Later,
      
      Rick Weiss
      Series V Speedster, 912S
      Daytona Beach
      cell: 301-502-8029
      
      
      In a message dated 04/02/08 17:08:22 Eastern Daylight Time, lynnmatt@jps.net writes:
      
      Leaving here (Mich) Sat or Sun, 5th or 6th, camping in Homebuilt. 
      
      Lynn Matteson 
      Grass Lake, Michigan 
      Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200 
      flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual 
      do not archive 
      
      
      On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:42 AM, FlyboyTR wrote: 
      
      > 
      > Update on our SNF plans.  We will depart Mobile, AL Thursday   
      > afternoon 4/10/08, and fly to Quincy, FL (2J9) northwest of   
      > Tallahassee and spend the night. Hotel is about a mile from the   
      > airport...not a bad walk!  Depart early Friday morning for the last   
      > leg to SNF. 
      > 
      > Again, we will be landing/camping in the UL area.  Just look for   
      > "Hotel Vixen!" (picture attached). 
      > 
      > Let's try to get a fix on exactly who is going to be   
      > there!  ...Hope we're not alone! 
      > 
      > Travis   :D 
      > 
      > -------- 
      > Travis Rayner 
      > Mobile, AL 
      > Skystar Vixen, N-789DF 
      > Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop 
      > IFR with Autopilot 
      > AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here: 
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174325#174325 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Attachments: 
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/snf_07_around_our_camp06_197.jpg 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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      Guys,
      I recent bought and, just on Sunday, started flying a Kitfox Model II.  I've flown
      in it a few times, but no take-offs or landings.  On Sunday I was out with
      my instructor (working on my tailwheel endorsement) and on our first landing
      the left side gear leg collapsed during roll out.  The field was soft, as was
      the landing, but the plane just tipped onto its side.  Luckily no damage other
      than the gear.
      
      I assume it is the result of fatigue from earlier poor landings.  I looked the
      plane over quite thoroughly before buying and noticed nothing, as well as during
      the preflight.  Has there been an issue with the gear on the Model IIs?
      
      Most importantly is there someone out there who has a set of legs, or just the
      left, and would be willing to sell it?  Kitfox Aircraft can't help, I've already
      called them; all they can offer is a new spring gear, for which I currently
      don't have the money.    If no one has a used gear available are there any other
      sources of parts for me?  My last resort is fabricating a new leg, which I
      can do if I must, but I'd prefer to buy something complete.
      
      --------
      Cory
      
      N906DB
      Kitfox Model II, Rotax 582
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174461#174461
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Weight and Balance Excel program | 
      
      
      Chuck sez:
      
      >About a year ago someone sent me an Excel program they used to 
      >compute theCG in their Kitfox. Would you please share it again.
      
      You can download one from Murle Williams' web site.  Visit 
      <http://murlewilliamsaviation.com/> and click the "Downloads" under 
      the picture of his Series 5 Kitfox.
      
      Mike G.
      N728KF
      Phoenix, AZ
      
      
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| Subject:  | Weight and Balance Excel program | 
      
      Chuck
      Attached is an excel program someone shared with me.
      Frank
      N5929
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      kj7sr@earthlink.net
      Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:05 PM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Weight and Balance Excel program
      
      About a year ago someone sent me an Excel program they used to compute
      theCG in their Kitfox. Would you please share it again.
      
      Do not archive
      
      Chuck Bloom
      Model IV
      Missoula, MT
      
      
      kj7sr@earthlink.net
      EarthLink Revolves Around You.
      
      
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      You might try Airdale/Avid,  the early Kitfox was an Avid copy (here we go 
      again)  and perhaps the gear legs are the same.  Leave Steve a message and 
      he should get back to you. Their number is 1-208-459-6254    Jim Chuk  Avid
      s  Mn.> Subject: Kitfox-List: Bungee Gear Leg> From: corbob13@netnet.net> D
      ate: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:09:48 -0700> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > --> K
      itfox-List message posted by: "corbob13" <corbob13@netnet.net>> > Guys,> I 
      recent bought and, just on Sunday, started flying a Kitfox Model II. I've f
      lown in it a few times, but no take-offs or landings. On Sunday I was out w
      ith my instructor (working on my tailwheel endorsement) and on our first la
      nding the left side gear leg collapsed during roll out. The field was soft,
       as was the landing, but the plane just tipped onto its side. Luckily no da
      mage other than the gear.> > I assume it is the result of fatigue from earl
      ier poor landings. I looked the plane over quite thoroughly before buying a
      nd noticed nothing, as well as during the preflight. Has there been an issu
      e with the gear on the Model IIs?> > Most importantly is there someone out 
      there who has a set of legs, or just the left, and would be willing to sell
       it? Kitfox Aircraft can't help, I've already called them; all they can off
      er is a new spring gear, for which I currently don't have the money. If no 
      one has a used gear available are there any other sources of parts for me? 
      My last resort is fabricating a new leg, which I can do if I must, but I'd 
      prefer to buy something complete.> > --------> Cory> > N906DB> Kitfox Model
       II, Rotax 582> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matro
      ===================> > > 
      _________________________________________________________________
      Pack up or back up'use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. L
      earn how.
      hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Ref
      resh_skydrive_packup_042008
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? | 
      
      
      Rick,
      I'll keep your cell # handy.  Look forward to meeting you.
      
      Travis  :)
      
      --------
      Travis Rayner
      Mobile, AL
      Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
      Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop
      IFR with Autopilot
      AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174501#174501
      
      
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      Jim sez:
      
      >...the early Kitfox was an Avid copy (here we go again)...
      
      Then why start it again?
      
      Mike G.
      
      
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      Don't mean to start a fight, he seemed new to Kitfoxes and might wonder why
       I said try Avid for a Kitfox gear leg.     Do not archive  Jim Chuk Avids 
       Mn> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:54:34 -0700> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> F
      rom: MichaelGibbs@cox.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Bungee Gear Leg> > -->
       Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>> > Jim
       sez:> > >...the early Kitfox was an Avid copy (here we go again)...> > The
      =============> > > 
      _________________________________________________________________
      More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger.
      http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refr
      esh_instantaccess_042008
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What | 
      are your plans?
      
      Does any one know if you can camp at Airventure in Okskosh if your drive in? Wish
      I could fly but my family of six will not fit in my Kitfox.
      
      
      Robert
      San Diego
      V/0200
      
      ----- Original Message ----
      From: "Sbennett3@aol.com" <Sbennett3@aol.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 7:00:41 AM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
      
      
      Travis, My friend Luis and I are flying down fron NC/SC in our 4-1200's on 4/8.
      We'll also be camping in the ultalight side.  Steve Bennett  Durham NC.
      
      
      Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home.
      
      
      You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total
      Access, No Cost.  
      http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
      
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| Subject:  | Desert Fox Squadron Fly-in Photos | 
      
      Hi all,
      
      I thought there might be some interest in these photos from the 8th 
      annual Desert Fox Squadron fly-in this last weekend.  Enjoy!
      
      Mike G.
      N728KF
      Phoenix, AZ
      
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| Subject:  | EFIS One Price Slashed!! | 
      
      
      Well OK, I dropped it a little, and added OBO.
      
      BLUE MOUNTAIN EFIS ONE  $7,200 OBO  FOR SALE  Never flown, just back from BMA with
      memory upgrade and a clean bill of health. This unit provides: Autopilot (servos
      sold separately), ADI/HSI, compass, Airspeed, Altimeter, Altitude alerter,
      encoder, VSI, Slip/Skid, Turn and Bank, Clock, OAT, GPS, Moving map, Navigation
      database, Fuel totalizer, Flight data recorder, Fuel Level, Fuel Flow, Tachometer,
      Manifold Press, Coolant Temp, Voltmeter, Oil Press, Oil Temp, CHT,
      EGT, Ammeter, no need for vacuum system Asking less than 1/2 price of new, $7200
      OBO Thanks Larry 602-363-2888 Charlie 602-763-7131
      
      
      --------
      C D Wambolt
      RV-8 Fastback (Showplanes)
      N8390
      CHD (Chandler AZ)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174522#174522
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: | 
      What are your plans?
      
      Robert -
      
      Camp Scholler is a drive-in campground. See:
      http://www.airventure.org/2007/news/061213_housing.html
      
      Bill
      
      
      On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Robert Harris <kitfox_robert@yahoo.com>
      wrote:
      
      > Does any one know if you can camp at Airventure in Okskosh if your drive
      > in? Wish I could fly but my family of six will not fit in my Kitfox.
      >
      >
      > Robert
      > San Diego
      > V/0200
      >
      >
      
 
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