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1. 01:30 AM - Re: Bungee Gear Leg (dave)
2. 05:23 AM - Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (Catz631@AOL.COM)
3. 05:57 AM - Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder (Keith C.)
4. 06:20 AM - Re: Desert Fox Squadron Fly-in Photos (Lynn Matteson)
5. 06:46 AM - Re: Bungee Gear Leg (Tom Jones)
6. 06:53 AM - Re: Weight and Balance Excel program (jdmcbean)
7. 07:05 AM - Re: Re: Bungee Gear Leg (Wahlquist, Dave)
8. 07:33 AM - Re: Bungee Gear Leg (jdmcbean)
9. 08:08 AM - Re: Desert Fox Squadron Fly-in Photos (Michel Verheughe)
10. 09:27 AM - Re: Desert Fox Squadron Fly-in Photos (Michael Gibbs)
11. 01:41 PM - Re: Bungee Gear Leg (dave)
12. 02:49 PM - Re: CAMPING AT AIRVENTURE OSHKOSHRe: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (kirk hull)
13. 03:05 PM - Re: TCP (Noel Loveys)
14. 04:24 PM - 912s at Sun n Fun (Chenoweth)
15. 04:25 PM - Re: CAMPING AT AIRVENTURE OSHKOSHRe: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (Jerry Hancock)
16. 05:05 PM - Sun-n-Fun 2008 (RONAL SMITH)
17. 05:29 PM - Re: TCP (Mnflyer)
18. 06:32 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (FlyboyTR)
19. 06:33 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? (FlyboyTR)
20. 06:38 PM - Re: Sun-n-Fun 2008 (FlyboyTR)
21. 06:39 PM - Re: Desert Fox Squadron Fly-in Photos (FlyboyTR)
22. 06:39 PM - Re: 912s at Sun n Fun (FlyboyTR)
23. 07:08 PM - Re: Bungee Gear Leg (corbob13)
24. 07:16 PM - CAMPING AT AIRVENTURE OSHKOSH Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What ar (corbob13)
25. 07:18 PM - Re: Re: 912s at Sun n Fun (Lynn Matteson)
26. 07:33 PM - Re: TCP (ronlee)
27. 09:24 PM - Re: Re: TCP (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
28. 10:02 PM - Re: Re: TCP (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
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| Subject: | Re: Bungee Gear Leg |
> Quote:
> ...the early Kitfox was an Avid copy (here we go again)...
>
>
> Then why start it again?
>
> Mike G.
>
What is the point ? The posting was about Gear Leg so why go on your banter about
the Kitfox /Avid story ? Just ask Dean Wilson how it started he willl give
you an honest answer?
Seems like since Mc Bean has no interest in helping out then I would bet Steve
Winder at Airdale would. I thought Murle Williams was a well rounded Kitfox
guy too?
I have a set of KF 2 Gear on hand here now but IT a customers and I could certainly
make a new gear for him if no one else can. What would a fair price be
for a Tube gear ?
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Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder |
Gary,
It's perfectly normal to have oil siphon from a high oil tank into the
cylinders over time. My Kitfox does it all the time.It's just like a radial
engine I used to have on a Waco.That is why you turn the prop thru so as to prevent
a "hydraulic lock" which will do a number on your engine.
If you check your oil level without turning the prop,you can see the
quantity go down on the dipstick for each day that you do not rotate the prop.
Mine
goes from max to below min in a week.
Nature of the beast I guess
Dick Maddux
Fox 4-1200
Rotax 912 Ul
Pensacola,Fl
(http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder |
Dick and all,
In addition to that, after trailering mine 1700 mi, a theory not proven,
it drains faster bouncing on the trailer. A short trip to the airport
could require a couple of rotations.
Keith C.
Mod IV 912
Mather (MHR) CA
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From: Catz631@aol.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912S - oil in cylinder
Gary,
It's perfectly normal to have oil siphon from a high oil tank into
the cylinders over time. My Kitfox does it all the time.It's just like a
radial engine I used to have on a Waco.That is why you turn the prop
thru so as to prevent a "hydraulic lock" which will do a number on your
engine.
If you check your oil level without turning the prop,you can see
the quantity go down on the dipstick for each day that you do not rotate
the prop. Mine goes from max to below min in a week.
Nature of the beast I guess
Dick Maddux
Fox 4-1200
Rotax 912 Ul
Pensacola,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: Desert Fox Squadron Fly-in Photos |
Nice...I'm jealous!
Lynn
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On Apr 3, 2008, at 1:41 AM, Michael Gibbs wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I thought there might be some interest in these photos from the 8th
> annual Desert Fox Squadron fly-in this last weekend. Enjoy!
>
> Mike G.
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| Subject: | Re: Bungee Gear Leg |
corbob13 wrote:
> Guys,
> I recent bought and, just on Sunday, started flying a Kitfox Model II. I've
flown in it a few times, but no take-offs or landings. On Sunday I was out with
my instructor (working on my tailwheel endorsement) and on our first landing
the left side gear leg collapsed during roll out. The field was soft, as was
the landing, but the plane just tipped onto its side. Luckily no damage other
than the gear.
>
> I assume it is the result of fatigue from earlier poor landings. I looked the
plane over quite thoroughly before buying and noticed nothing, as well as during
the preflight. Has there been an issue with the gear on the Model IIs?
>
Cory,
Is your instructor experienced with landing the Kitfox. The tube gear is prone
to breaking if the plane is landed in a crab. The engine cowl tapers significantly
from the rear to the nose and gives the pilot the impression the plane
is in a crab when it is straight and vise versa. being a relatively new kitfox
pilot myself I can attest that this illusion is real. There was a post a few
years ago from a Kitfox owner that was taking a flight review in his own kitfox
and had to make a few landings to convince his instructor and even then the
instructor tried to touch down with the plane in a crab.
Before I flew my kitfox the first time I stood behind it and lined the centerline
up with a water tower about 200 yards away. I then sat in the seat and made
a mark on the windshield that lined up on the water tower. When landing this
line must be lined up on the runway centerline.
A picture of my "Kitfox landing site line is attached".
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Weight and Balance Excel program |
Chuck,
You may want to try the Kitfox Aircraft web.. Technical info
link
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
kj7sr@earthlink.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:05 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Weight and Balance Excel program
About a year ago someone sent me an Excel program they used to compute theCG
in their Kitfox. Would you please share it again.
Do not archive
Chuck Bloom
Model IV
Missoula, MT
kj7sr@earthlink.net <mailto:kj7sr@earthlink.net>
EarthLink Revolves Around You.
Checked by AVG.
5:37 PM
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| Subject: | Re: Bungee Gear Leg |
Cory,
Cory or others,
If you could post some pictures of the broken gear it may help others
when we double check our own gear legs for problems.
Dave Wahlquist
Marshall WI
Kitfox Model III
Rotax 582
N844KF
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:43 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Bungee Gear Leg
corbob13 wrote:
> Guys,
> I recent bought and, just on Sunday, started flying a Kitfox Model II.
I've flown in it a few times, but no take-offs or landings. On Sunday I
was out with my instructor (working on my tailwheel endorsement) and on
our first landing the left side gear leg collapsed during roll out. The
field was soft, as was the landing, but the plane just tipped onto its
side. Luckily no damage other than the gear.
>
> I assume it is the result of fatigue from earlier poor landings. I
looked the plane over quite thoroughly before buying and noticed
nothing, as well as during the preflight. Has there been an issue with
the gear on the Model IIs?
>
Cory,
Is your instructor experienced with landing the Kitfox. The tube gear
is prone to breaking if the plane is landed in a crab. The engine cowl
tapers significantly from the rear to the nose and gives the pilot the
impression the plane is in a crab when it is straight and vise versa.
being a relatively new kitfox pilot myself I can attest that this
illusion is real. There was a post a few years ago from a Kitfox owner
that was taking a flight review in his own kitfox and had to make a few
landings to convince his instructor and even then the instructor tried
to touch down with the plane in a crab.
Before I flew my kitfox the first time I stood behind it and lined the
centerline up with a water tower about 200 yards away. I then sat in
the seat and made a mark on the windshield that lined up on the water
tower. When landing this line must be lined up on the runway
centerline.
A picture of my "Kitfox landing site line is attached".
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174570#174570
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Cory,
I apologize if there was a miss understanding... We can help.. I would be
nice to have your collapsed gear so that we could verify what you have.
Contact me off list.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of corbob13
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 7:10 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Bungee Gear Leg
Guys,
I recent bought and, just on Sunday, started flying a Kitfox Model II. I've
flown in it a few times, but no take-offs or landings. On Sunday I was out
with my instructor (working on my tailwheel endorsement) and on our first
landing the left side gear leg collapsed during roll out. The field was
soft, as was the landing, but the plane just tipped onto its side. Luckily
no damage other than the gear.
I assume it is the result of fatigue from earlier poor landings. I looked
the plane over quite thoroughly before buying and noticed nothing, as well
as during the preflight. Has there been an issue with the gear on the Model
IIs?
Most importantly is there someone out there who has a set of legs, or just
the left, and would be willing to sell it? Kitfox Aircraft can't help, I've
already called them; all they can offer is a new spring gear, for which I
currently don't have the money. If no one has a used gear available are
there any other sources of parts for me? My last resort is fabricating a
new leg, which I can do if I must, but I'd prefer to buy something complete.
--------
Cory
N906DB
Kitfox Model II, Rotax 582
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Checked by AVG.
5:37 PM
Checked by AVG.
10:48 AM
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| Subject: | Desert Fox Squadron Fly-in Photos |
> From: Lynn Matteson [lynnmatt@jps.net]
> Nice...I'm jealous!
So am I. And, Mike, can you send me some of that blue stuff over the horizon and
the yellow disk in it. We haven't seen that for weeks, over here! :-(
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Desert Fox Squadron Fly-in Photos |
Michel sez:
>...And, Mike, can you send me some of that blue stuff over the
>horizon and the yellow disk in it. We haven't seen that for weeks,
>over here! :-(
For you, Michel, anything!
Mike G.
N728KF
Phoenix, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Bungee Gear Leg |
> Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:33 am Post subject: Bungee Gear Leg
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Cory,
> I apologize if there was a miss understanding... We can help.. I would be
> nice to have your collapsed gear so that we could verify what you have.
>
> Contact me off list.
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
>
>
Glad to hear you can help John. I thought it was odd that you were not supporting
Kitfox parts.
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: |
What are your plans?
Yes you can but I would suggest camping at the YMCA about 3 miles away. You
camp on an air-conditioned and heated and dry indoor soccer field. The run a
bus to the show daily and the facilities are great. Indoor pool, weight
room ,kids area etc.
_____
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Harris
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:37 PM
Subject: CAMPING AT AIRVENTURE OSHKOSHRe: Kitfox-List: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008:
What are your plans?
Does any one know if you can camp at Airventure in Okskosh if your drive in?
Wish I could fly but my family of six will not fit in my Kitfox.
Robert
San Diego
V/0200
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From: "Sbennett3@aol.com" <Sbennett3@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 7:00:41 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
Travis, My friend Luis and I are flying down fron NC/SC in our 4-1200's on
4/8. We'll also be camping in the ultalight side. Steve Bennett Durham NC.
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Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch
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Considering MMO is mostly Stoddard solvent It may work as well on the upper
cylinder... I doubt it will do the square root of sweet nothing to protect
your main bearings from lead plating if you use 100LL.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete
Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:04 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: TCP
I read that Marvel Mystery oil is a substitute for TCP. Any experience out
there?
Pete Christensen
Kitfox III N73BH
http://www.pipercubforum.com/marvel.htm
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| Subject: | 912s at Sun n Fun |
I'm going to be converting my IV-1200 from 582 to 912S this summer and
will be at Sun n Fun next week (Thursday thru Saturday). If there are
any of you with 912s in model IVs who will be there and would be willing
to discuss their installations and, perhaps, let me take a few pictures
please contact me off list.
Thanks very much.
Bill Chenoweth
Albion, Maine
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: |
What are your plans?
Robert,
The simple answer is yes. They have camping to tents or RV's but RV space
is limited. Here is the link to review your options
http://www.airventure.org/2008/planning/where_to_stay.html
Have a great time. I have been their twice. Flown in once and camped and
then stayed at one the universites the second time.
On 4/3/08, Robert Harris <kitfox_robert@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Does any one know if you can camp at Airventure in Okskosh if your drive
> in? Wish I could fly but my family of six will not fit in my Kitfox.
>
>
> Robert
> San Diego
> V/0200
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Sbennett3@aol.com" <Sbennett3@aol.com>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 7:00:41 AM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?
>
> Travis, My friend Luis and I are flying down fron NC/SC in our 4-1200's on
> 4/8. We'll also be camping in the ultalight side. Steve Bennett Durham NC.
>
>
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I too am flying down to S-n-F in my Kitfox 4, from Delaware. It looks
like the weather is dictating a Sunday (6th) departure. I plan to spend
Sunday nite in Walterboro, SC, and then arrive at Lakeland on Monday
afternoon. Will be camping in the homebuilt area. Cell no. is
302-381-5105. Hope to meet some of you people.
Ron Smith, KF 4 with Jabiru 2200.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: TCP
Considering MMO is mostly Stoddard solvent It may work as well on the upper cylinder...
I doubt it will do the square root of sweet nothing to protect your main
bearings from lead plating if you use 100LL.
Noel So what proof can you offer that MMO is mostly Stoddard solvent?
I,m curious have never seen it listed as part of the formula.
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GB
MNFlyer
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? |
I just sent Lynn some info and thought I would post it here as well. For those
first-timers flying into the UL area and camping, this should help give a little
more guidance. ATTACHED!
We now have 3 SNF threads going. I will bump them to try to keep all the info
together. Sorry for the clutter!
Travis :D
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Travis Rayner
Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
IFR with Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans? |
Another Shameless Bump [Embarassed]
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Travis Rayner
Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
IFR with Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-n-Fun 2008 |
Ron,
Please read the two other SNF threads. Have you considered landing/camping in
the UL area? It looks like we are going to have a Kitfox show there!
Travis :D
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Travis Rayner
Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
IFR with Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
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| Subject: | Re: Desert Fox Squadron Fly-in Photos |
Great Pictures! Thanks!
Travis :D
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Travis Rayner
Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
IFR with Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
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| Subject: | Re: 912s at Sun n Fun |
Bill,
I don't have a Rotax in my plane...but feel free to visit the UL/Camping area.
Looks like it will be the Kitfox corner of the world! Hopefully we'll get to
meet you!
Travis
:D
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Travis Rayner
Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
IFR with Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
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| Subject: | Re: Bungee Gear Leg |
Some pics attached.
It was pretty strange. As I said, the landing was not bad, and the field was pretty
soft, but right after touching down we heard a snap and the plane just kind
of leaned over.
You can see in the pictures that the tube on the leading edge of the leg is bent
and the strut that reaches up toward the bungees is cracked near its confluence
with the rest of the gear. The fabric damage is the result of our official
investigation, not the incident itself. No corrosion was found, and the crack
in the strut appears fresh.
Luckily that's all that broke; we could have pretty easily wiped the radiator off
the bottom of the plane or had a prop strike.
Cory
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Cory
N906DB
Kitfox Model II, Rotax 582
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| Subject: | Re: CAMPING AT AIRVENTURE OSHKOSH Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What ar |
Robert,
Yes you can camp at Camp Scholler as was already suggested. I usually stay the
week in an old camper I tow down (I live pretty close) and it's a pretty good
time. It does lack the amenities of the Y but it's convenient.
Cory
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N906DB
Kitfox Model II, Rotax 582
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I don't either, Bill, but I'd be glad to let you shoot pictures of my
engine installation and help you change your mind about engine
choices. : ) That is, if the weather cooperates.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual
do not archive
On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:35 PM, FlyboyTR wrote:
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> Bill,
> I don't have a Rotax in my plane...but feel free to visit the UL/
> Camping area. Looks like it will be the Kitfox corner of the
> world! Hopefully we'll get to meet you!
>
> Travis
> :D
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I have the same question. How do you know MMO is Stoddard solvent? Where did you
find that information or is just a guess or hearsay?
The mining companies use it by the 55 gallon barrels for many applications including
all air tools. The military also uses barrels of the stuff. In view of
this I wouldn't think it is Stoddard solvent.
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Ron Lee
Tucson, Arizona
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Here is something I read a few years ago, it is an accident report on the N
STB site that mentions MMO and in the 5th paragraph up from the bottom, it
says that MMO is mineral oil, stoddard solvent, and lard (75%, 24%, 1%) I
can't say for sure this is true, it is an official gov. document though, s
o who knows. Hope this long link comes out okey. I found it again on the
web by searching Marvel mystery oil FAA and found it on the second page I
think. Jim Chuk Avids Mn
http://www.nstb.gov/nstb/brief2.asp?ev_id 020916X01610&nstbno=NYC0LA1
81&akey=1
if that isn't the right link, maybe this is (not sure if the 0 in NYCOLA
is a letter or #)
http://www.nstb.gov/nstb/brief2.asp?ev_id 020916X01610&nstbno=NYCOLA1
81&akey=1> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: TCP> From: rlee468@comcast.net> Date
: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 19:29:36 -0700> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > --> Kitf
ox-List message posted by: "ronlee" <rlee468@comcast.net>> > I have the sam
e question. How do you know MMO is Stoddard solvent? Where did you find tha
t information or is just a guess or hearsay?> The mining companies use it b
y the 55 gallon barrels for many applications including all air tools. The
military also uses barrels of the stuff. In view of this I wouldn't think i
t is Stoddard solvent.> > --------> Ron Lee> Tucson, Arizona> > > > > Read
this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=17
=========> > >
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Those long links are hard to get right. If it doesn't work, google Marvel
mystery oil FAA and it will be on the first page, 9th item down titled NY
CO2LA I'll try the link again, left out a 2 last time
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id 020916X01610&ntsbno=NYC02LA
181&akey=1
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ist: Re: TCPDate: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 04:21:33 +0000
Here is something I read a few years ago, it is an accident report on the N
STB site that mentions MMO and in the 5th paragraph up from the bottom, it
says that MMO is mineral oil, stoddard solvent, and lard (75%, 24%, 1%) I
can't say for sure this is true, it is an official gov. document though, s
o who knows. Hope this long link comes out okey. I found it again on the
web by searching Marvel mystery oil FAA and found it on the second page I
think. Jim Chuk Avids Mn http://www.nstb.gov/nstb/brief2.asp?ev_id 0
20916X01610&nstbno=NYC0LA181&akey=1 if that isn't the right link, may
be this is (not sure if the 0 in NYCOLA is a letter or #)http://www.nstb.g
ov/nstb/brief2.asp?ev_id 020916X01610&nstbno=NYCOLA181&akey=1> Subj
ect: Kitfox-List: Re: TCP> From: rlee468@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008
19:29:36 -0700> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > --> Kitfox-List message p
osted by: "ronlee" <rlee468@comcast.net>> > I have the same question. How d
o you know MMO is Stoddard solvent? Where did you find that information or
is just a guess or hearsay?> The mining companies use it by the 55 gallon b
arrels for many applications including all air tools. The military also use
s barrels of the stuff. In view of this I wouldn't think it is Stoddard sol
vent.> > --------> Ron Lee> Tucson, Arizona> > > > > Read this topic online
here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174719#174719> &g
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