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1. 03:52 AM - Re: Wing Inspection Hole Locations? (fox5flyer)
2. 06:06 AM - Re: Wing Inspection Hole Locations? (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
3. 06:10 AM - Re: Wing Inspection Hole Locations? (Cudnohufsky's)
4. 06:23 AM - Re: Wing Inspection Hole Locations? (Roger McConnell)
5. 06:47 AM - Comparing the Kitfox 4 Classic with the Avid MK IV HH??? (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
6. 07:09 AM - Re: Life Insurance (moosepileit)
7. 09:09 AM - Re: Wing Inspection Hole Locations? (Beemer)
8. 09:12 AM - Re: Wing Inspection Hole Locations? (darinh)
9. 10:06 AM - Re: Proposed Sport Pilot and LSA rule changes (Lynn Matteson)
10. 01:55 PM - Elevator Trim (Cudnohufsky's)
11. 05:44 PM - Re: Re: Life Insurance (Dan Billingsley)
12. 06:50 PM - Re: Proposed Sport Pilot and LSA rule changes (vetdrem)
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Inspection Hole Locations? |
Place them pretty much anywhere you might possibly, in the future, need to
get in for access. One is on the belly below the elevator pushrod bearing.
There are also a couple places below the control linkage on the belly below
the baggage area. Any place else you might need future access. You don't
need to actually cut the holes until you need access. Just the
reinforcement rings are all that are needed.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."
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From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 2:30 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Wing Inspection Hole Locations?
>
> I am curious where you guys have place inspection holes in your wings. I
> have placed one for access to the plumbing for the pitot tube and another
> for an OAT probe sensor for my Dynon but can't think of any other reason I
> need more. These wings don't have any moving linkages that are inside so
> can anyone tell me why I need any additional inspection holes? What has
> everyone else done?
>
> --------
> Darin Hawkes
> Series 7 (Painting)
> 914 Turbo
> Kaysville, Utah
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=177812#177812
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| Subject: | Wing Inspection Hole Locations? |
Hi Darin, I know where I would like to have one on my Avid MK IV. Some mi
ce built a nest out near the wingtip, you can feel it when you tap on the b
ottom. Last summer when I was putting the Jabiru engine in, I saw some mic
e running up and into the front wing spar. I set traps and cought about h
alf a dozen but I guess they had allready built the house. Just rethinking
this, I suppose on the Kitfox you can pull off the wingtips to get at the
end of the wing, on the Avid the tip is covered with fabric. I'm going to
have to add some inspection rings now after the fact. The other place I ne
ed one is so I can reach the top of the tailwheel spring bolt. I guess the
y say put in a lot of rings and don't cut them out until or if you need to.
Jim Chuk Avids Kitfox 4 Mn> Subject: Kitfox-List: Wing Inspection Hol
e Locations?> From: gerns25@netscape.net> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:30:00 -
darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>> > I am curious where you guys have place in
spection holes in your wings. I have placed one for access to the plumbing
for the pitot tube and another for an OAT probe sensor for my Dynon but can
't think of any other reason I need more. These wings don't have any moving
linkages that are inside so can anyone tell me why I need any additional i
nspection holes? What has everyone else done?> > --------> Darin Hawkes> Se
ries 7 (Painting)> 914 Turbo> Kaysville, Utah> > > > > Read this topic onli
ne here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=177812#177812> >
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| Subject: | Wing Inspection Hole Locations? |
Darin,
I would place two each on the bottom of the main wings adjacent to the wing
strut attachment brackets. The reason you would want them there is to be
able to inspect this area for corrosion during annuals or signs of
separation / stressing should you have a mishap. If you have a tailwheel you
will want to consider one for access to the forward bolt on the tail spring.
I also made my wingtips removable to allow for better annual inspections of
the inside of the wings.
Lloyd C
N Mich
Model 5 912UL
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Wing Inspection Hole Locations?
Place them pretty much anywhere you might possibly, in the future, need to
get in for access. One is on the belly below the elevator pushrod bearing.
There are also a couple places below the control linkage on the belly below
the baggage area. Any place else you might need future access. You don't
need to actually cut the holes until you need access. Just the
reinforcement rings are all that are needed.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."
- Joseph Joubert
----- Original Message -----
From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 2:30 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Wing Inspection Hole Locations?
>
> I am curious where you guys have place inspection holes in your wings. I
> have placed one for access to the plumbing for the pitot tube and another
> for an OAT probe sensor for my Dynon but can't think of any other reason I
> need more. These wings don't have any moving linkages that are inside so
> can anyone tell me why I need any additional inspection holes? What has
> everyone else done?
>
> --------
> Darin Hawkes
> Series 7 (Painting)
> 914 Turbo
> Kaysville, Utah
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=177812#177812
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Wing Inspection Hole Locations? |
The pitot tube is a good place. I would also put one next to the strut
attach brackets on the spars to get a better look at the brackets.
Roger McConnell, Duncan, OK
Model 7 Trigear, Rotax 912uls
Flying sense Jan. 06
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of darinh
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:30 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Wing Inspection Hole Locations?
I am curious where you guys have place inspection holes in your wings. I
have placed one for access to the plumbing for the pitot tube and another
for an OAT probe sensor for my Dynon but can't think of any other reason I
need more. These wings don't have any moving linkages that are inside so
can anyone tell me why I need any additional inspection holes? What has
everyone else done?
--------
Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (Painting)
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Comparing the Kitfox 4 Classic with the Avid MK IV HH??? |
Hi all, back again, thanks to those that did reply when I posted this que
stion earlier, I was hopeing for more first hand reports from those that
have flown both planes. (Paul Seehaufer perhaps is one who comes to mind)
anyway I was doing some comparing yesterday and found this out. The Kitfo
x 4 has 2" more headroom, and it is also 9" longer, measureing from the fro
nt wing attach point to the elevator hinge. I suppose that length should g
ive the tail surfaces more leverage and control in flight. Thanks, Jim C
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| Subject: | Re: Life Insurance |
At a certain income level/net worth- folks wind up self-insuring for recreational/experimental
type aviation flying. Occasionally in aerobatics you'll see someone
have to buy a factory built and certified model and sell their Experimental
Amatuer built..
For most of us- aviation exclusions are normal in insurance and you are looking
for a policy that does not exclude aviation. It also used to be easy to find
a "smooth" policy for the operating insurance, but no longer- separate subject.
The EAA should be a good place to start if not then AOPA.
Rich Klarich
Wyoming, DE
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Inspection Hole Locations? |
One other thing to consider: During my 'fox's stint with it's previous owner, wasps
built nests inside the wing. It would have been good to have and access hole
in each rib bay to clean such things out. Maybe overkill, but you can decide.
Bradley
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Beemer
KF2 (and now an M3!)
Middle Georgia
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Inspection Hole Locations? |
I have them all over the bottom of the fuse...static ports, pushrod bearing, etc.
Its just the wings that I am having a hard time deciding what, if any, additional
locations need access holes. I like the spar attachment points to check
for corrosion and separation at the lift struts. Maybe I will add an inspection
plate at each of the jury strut attachment points also. My wingtips are
removable so I have that taken care of. Thanks guys for the advice.
--------
Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (Painting)
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah
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| Subject: | Re: Proposed Sport Pilot and LSA rule changes |
Well, by golly, they must've read my mind......"Sir, I'd like one
bottle of oxygen and a Sectional chart for Leadville, Colorado,
please....and take your time on the delivery, as the rule is not in
place yet." But I can hope. : )
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/490+ hrs
do not archive
On Apr 18, 2008, at 10:26 PM, avidfox wrote:
>
> Proposed change #9.... is for Lynns next west coast trip. ; )
>
> http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/pdf/08-1127.pdf
>
> Me,... I'm just happy flying a Series 5 up to the Maximum Takeoff
> Weight of 1320 lbs. under sport pilot privileges.
>
> Steve
> 84KF
> KF5912UL
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=177791#177791
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> Attachments:
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Group,
Fabricating a trim tab into my elevator on my 5, will be on pilot side only,
looking for input on the amount of travel I should expect to need up & down.
Lloyd C
N Mich
5 - 912UL
Checked by AVG.
11:31 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Life Insurance |
Thanks to those who gave some help.
Dan
moosepileit <rklarich@msn.com> wrote:
At a certain income level/net worth- folks wind up self-insuring for recreational/experimental
type aviation flying. Occasionally in aerobatics you'll see someone
have to buy a factory built and certified model and sell their Experimental
Amatuer built..
For most of us- aviation exclusions are normal in insurance and you are looking
for a policy that does not exclude aviation. It also used to be easy to find
a "smooth" policy for the operating insurance, but no longer- separate subject.
The EAA should be a good place to start if not then AOPA.
Rich Klarich
Wyoming, DE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=177840#177840
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| Subject: | Re: Proposed Sport Pilot and LSA rule changes |
The 10,000 ft limit is being addressed in the new revision that is being routed
through the system. It will be 10,000 ft MSL or 2,000 ft AGL which ever is higher.
You can read about the proposed change at http://www.eaa.org/news/2008/2008-04-11_sport_pilot.asp
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