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1. 04:22 AM - 3163 K Kitfox IV PLAY (Kem Dunnebacke)
2. 05:11 AM - Re: Re: Show us your finished Kitfox (W Duke)
3. 05:20 AM - Re: Re: Show us your finished Kitfox (W Duke)
4. 06:34 AM - Re: Show us your finished Kitfox!! (crazyivan)
5. 08:21 AM - Re: Hanger / workshop photo's... (n85ae)
6. 08:22 AM - STEWART SYSTEM (Harry Cieslar)
7. 09:07 AM - Re: Finished Kitfox (Guy Buchanan)
8. 10:19 AM - Re: STEWART SYSTEM (n85ae)
9. 10:49 AM - Re: Re: Show us your finished Kitfox (Lynn Matteson)
10. 11:52 AM - Re: Show us your finished Kitfox (Michel Verheughe)
11. 12:08 PM - Kitfox series5 bungees (debrun26@juno.com)
12. 12:48 PM - Re: Show us your finished Kitfox (fox5flyer)
13. 01:22 PM - Re: Kitfox series5 bungees (jdmcbean)
14. 02:16 PM - Re: Re: Show us your finished Kitfox (steve shinabery)
15. 02:17 PM - Re: Finished Kitfox (dave)
16. 03:08 PM - Re: Re: Show us your finished Kitfox (Lynn Matteson)
17. 03:45 PM - Re: Kitfox series5 bungees (Pete Christensen)
18. 04:35 PM - Re: Re: Finished Kitfox (James Shumaker)
19. 04:38 PM - Re: Finished Kitfox (James Shumaker)
20. 04:43 PM - Re: Finished Kitfox (James Shumaker)
21. 04:45 PM - Re: Re: Finished Kitfox (James Shumaker)
22. 07:26 PM - Re: Re: STEWART SYSTEM (Harry Cieslar)
23. 07:41 PM - Re: Re: Show us your finished Kitfox (C David Estapa)
24. 07:50 PM - Re: Kitfox series5 bungees (debrun26@juno.com)
25. 09:18 PM - Re: STEWART SYSTEM (Andy Fultz)
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| Subject: | 3163 K Kitfox IV PLAY |
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Show us your finished Kitfox |
I am. If you are coming through Georgia, you are welcome to stop in. GE26 is on
the map near Dublin and 2000 feet. That invitation goes for any of the Kitfox
family.
Maxwell
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Danny <vft@aol.com> wrote:
Gee............................that looks very familiar:) I bet you're having
a ball with it.
Danny Melnik
F1 N14ZM
Rocket Factory
Melbourne, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, 5 May 2008 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: Show us your finished Kitfox
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| Subject: | RE: Show us your finished Kitfox |
No mention of a center support in my manual. I think that may have changed somewhere
in the Series 5 run but I am not certain.
Maxwell
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Duke,
I see you do not have the center support on your skylight, are you running a
heavier windscreen or is it just not required?
Lloyd
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Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: Show us your finished Kitfox
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| Subject: | Re: Show us your finished Kitfox!! |
Quote from Guy Buchanan " What an incredible image. I think you should consider
sending that one in to EAA. You'll win their monthly photo contest for sure"
Great idea but I can't take credit for that picture. While I'm deployed a bud
of mine is keeping her in his hangar and flying her to keep the engine and airframe
from wasting away in storage. As you can see, he got the better end of
the deal.
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| Subject: | Re: Hanger / workshop photo's... |
Tom Jones wrote:
> Here's the outside.
Tom -
Nothing personal, but I feel a deep feeling of animosity towards anybody
so lucky as you to have a facility like that! :)
Going back to my closet ...
Regards,
Jeff
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Anyone have experience with Stewart System Products for covering your KF
or Avid. It is water based, therefore less fumes and no solvents or fire
hazards.I am researching methods. Hype by the manufacturer as cheaper,
faster , lighter, safer than Stitts method.I was considering Hipec,
probably easiest, strong without tape or wing stitching but very toxic
ie isocyanates.Any experience appreciated.
Thanks, Harry Cieslar, Avid Magnum builder, Goderich ,Ontario
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| Subject: | Re: Finished Kitfox |
At 06:36 PM 5/5/2008, you wrote:
>I've seen some beautiful and interesting Kitfoxes under this thread
>so here is my finished Kitfox.
>
>Jim Shumaker
Jim,
Another fun one! Did you waterski in? Or just land a bit
short? I haven't had the courage to try skiing yet, as I only have 5x5 tires.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: STEWART SYSTEM |
I'm painting my CH801 with System Three's Waterborne products, which
are similar BUT WAY cheaper. The drawback, they probably won't work on
Fabric (WR-LPU that is). However it is possible they might.
Having been an Aerothane junky in the past, I have had many frustrating
experiences with the waterborne pain(t). In many ways it is nice, since
it is basically not going to kill you. The bad part is it is touchy to spray
well, too little and it dries instantly and sandy. Too much and it run's
easily, or if it doesn't run tends to develop what I call "foam". Basically
where air from the gun embeds in the paint and doesn't flow out.
Since my wife won't let me use Aerothane anymore I live with the
waterborne stuff.
By the way System Three polyurethane is 50% the cost of AFS
Regards,
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Show us your finished Kitfox |
Whoever said they've seen enough snow, apparently doesn't have
skis.....yet. : )
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/503+ hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Show us your finished Kitfox |
I didn't post anything because ... well, apart from the engine, it's not me who
built my plane. But if you guys are collecting many Kitfox photos, here is my
baby!
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
do not archive
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| Subject: | Kitfox series5 bungees |
What size are the bungees on the series 5, both length & thickness? I'm
going to try and do the dredded replacement. Layne Anchorage, Alaska
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| Subject: | Re: Show us your finished Kitfox |
Looks great Lynn. Who were you visiting down there?
If I might suggest something to the listers. It would be interesting if you
folks added to your photos a few things like total building hours (yes, I
know it never really ends), engine package, month/year completed, etc.
Color me always curious,
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Show us your finished Kitfox
> Whoever said they've seen enough snow, apparently doesn't have
> skis.....yet. : )
>
>
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>
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> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/503+ hrs
>
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| Subject: | Kitfox series5 bungees |
We have them available.. contact us off list..
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
Ph 208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
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Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:04 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox series5 bungees
What size are the bungees on the series 5, both length & thickness? I'm
going to try and do the dredded replacement. Layne Anchorage, Alaska
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| Subject: | Re: Show us your finished Kitfox |
Lynn Matteson wrote:
> Whoever said they've seen enough snow, apparently doesn't have
> skis.....yet. : )
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/503+ hrs
>
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SORRY Lynn,That was me That said that I had to much SNOW this year,,
:-[ your pic of ol no 3 even looks good on skis..STEVE SHINABERY
N554KF KF2
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| Subject: | Re: Finished Kitfox |
Jim, Great pic.!!! At last another Kitfox flier doing it in style.
How bout some videos?
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Show us your finished Kitfox |
Hi Deke-
This was taken at Napoleon Airport (3NP) just a few miles from my
(rented) field.
My build.....from 10% done when I bought it......took me 19 months,
Jabiru 2200, got the Airworthiness Certificate in March 2006, and I
soloed in it in June 2006, after I had the 40 hrs flown off for me,
and then got 2-1/2 months of instruction in it.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/503+ hrs
On May 6, 2008, at 3:43 PM, fox5flyer wrote:
> <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
>
> Looks great Lynn. Who were you visiting down there?
> If I might suggest something to the listers. It would be
> interesting if you folks added to your photos a few things like
> total building hours (yes, I know it never really ends), engine
> package, month/year completed, etc.
> Color me always curious,
> Deke Morisse
> Mikado Michigan
> S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
> "The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but
> progress."
> - Joseph Joubert
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Show us your finished Kitfox
>
>
>> Whoever said they've seen enough snow, apparently doesn't have
>> skis.....yet. : )
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
>
>
>>
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Grass Lake, Michigan
>> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
>> flying w/503+ hrs
>>
>>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox series5 bungees |
Layne,
I'll send you two of them if you pay the postage.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
From: debrun26@juno.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:04 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox series5 bungees
What size are the bungees on the series 5, both length & thickness?
I'm going to try and do the dredded replacement. Layne Anchorage,
Alaska
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| Subject: | Re: Finished Kitfox |
Trained over very shallow water at very high speed to get used to the feel of the
water on the tires. It is actually just like concrete at about 65mph. When
you get slow the tires will sink and try to pitch pole you. This water is about
two inches deep.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message ----
From: Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
Sent: Monday, May 5, 2008 7:11:39 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Finished Kitfox
Jim, how did you train your kitfox? Mine is afraid of the water. do not archive
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Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Finished Kitfox |
This is the Salinas River which is in central Cahlifonya. The water does not even
run year round. We fly the river looking for little sand bars to land on.
The sand can be so soft if will pitch you right over if you are not careful.
Jim Shumaker
Kitfox III
Cahlifonya
----- Original Message ----
From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, May 5, 2008 9:08:45 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Finished Kitfox
Jim, Beautiful picture. Where are you Alaska? Do not archive.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
From: jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Kitfox-List: Finished Kitfox
I've seen some beautiful and interesting Kitfoxes under this thread so here is
my finished Kitfox.
Jim Shumaker
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| Subject: | Re: Finished Kitfox |
Hi Guy,
Yes, I water ski the plane but when landing try to stay off the water until it
is shallow enough that droping through will not be a problem. That is because
the landing speed is much slower than the tire planing speed. Your little tiny
tires would be more of a problem. You would need very smooth and shallow water
to get started at it. Think parking lot with a shimmer of water on it.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message ----
From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2008 8:59:02 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Finished Kitfox
At 06:36 PM 5/5/2008, you wrote:
>I've seen some beautiful and interesting Kitfoxes under this thread
>so here is my finished Kitfox.
>
>Jim Shumaker
Jim,
Another fun one! Did you waterski in? Or just land a bit
short? I haven't had the courage to try skiing yet, as I only have 5x5 tires.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Finished Kitfox |
When we took videos I was the camera plane and a Citabria was the subject plane.
Therefore the video would be slightly off topic. I do have one that runs about
10 minutes.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message ----
From: dave <dave@cfisher.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2008 2:14:54 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Finished Kitfox
Jim, Great pic.!!! At last another Kitfox flier doing it in style.
How bout some videos?
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Re: STEWART SYSTEM |
n85ae; Thanks very much for the info. Will look up System Three on the
net. Harry C, Avid Magnum Project
n85ae wrote:
>
> I'm painting my CH801 with System Three's Waterborne products, which
> are similar BUT WAY cheaper. The drawback, they probably won't work on
> Fabric (WR-LPU that is). However it is possible they might.
>
> Having been an Aerothane junky in the past, I have had many frustrating
> experiences with the waterborne pain(t). In many ways it is nice, since
> it is basically not going to kill you. The bad part is it is touchy to spray
> well, too little and it dries instantly and sandy. Too much and it run's
> easily, or if it doesn't run tends to develop what I call "foam". Basically
> where air from the gun embeds in the paint and doesn't flow out.
>
> Since my wife won't let me use Aerothane anymore I live with the
> waterborne stuff.
>
> By the way System Three polyurethane is 50% the cost of AFS
>
> Regards,
> Jeff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181521#181521
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Show us your finished Kitfox |
I broke my first windshield and when I replaced it I used the one piece
that goes back to the rear spar carry thru. LP Plastics said I did not
need the center support.
David Estapa
Woodstock, Georgia
N97DE S5TD
On Tue, 6 May 2008 05:17:28 -0700 (PDT) W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com> writes:
No mention of a center support in my manual. I think that may have
changed somewhere in the Series 5 run but I am not certain.
Maxwell
Cudnohufsky's <7suds@Chartermi.net> wrote:
Duke,
I see you do not have the center support on your skylight, are you
running a heavier windscreen or is it just not required?
Lloyd
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox series5 bungees |
Pete~ Thanks for the generous offer, and I'll be happy to take you up on
it. I wish I could just change my landing gear out for grove gear but
that'll have to be a few years in the future. Just let me know the ship
ping cost and address and I'll send a check. Are you sure you don't wan
t to come up here to Alaska to help me change the bungees? Thanks agai
n, Layne Cropper
7750
Bethany Circle
Ancho
rage, Alaska 99507
ph: 90
7-360-0430
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Harry,
I'm using the STEWART SYSTEM on my AVID and I love it so far. There are
at least three others on the field I'm on that have covered with other
brands and they have said they will use STEWART Systems on their next
project. In fact two of the three are now covering new projects and are
using the STEWART SYSTEM. There are practically no odors in the glue and it
is MUCH easier to use than STITS. I had a little trouble getting the spray
gun (and me)tuned, but things are turning out good so far. I've painted
several small pieces and plan to start on the fuselage and wings in the next
couple of weeks if all goes well. I went with STEWART SYSTEMS mainly
because it is a non-toxic system. I hung around their booth at OSH last
year and was sold on the product. Their instructional videos will certainly
give you enough knowledge to do a good job covering and painting with their
SYSTEM. If you have any more specific questions please feel free to e-mail
direct and I'll give you my phone number if you wish. If I were to start
another project tomorrow I would certainly choose the same system agian.
Andy F.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Harry
Cieslar
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 10:17 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: STEWART SYSTEM
Anyone have experience with Stewart System Products for covering your KF
or Avid. It is water based, therefore less fumes and no solvents or fire
hazards.I am researching methods. Hype by the manufacturer as cheaper,
faster , lighter, safer than Stitts method.I was considering Hipec,
probably easiest, strong without tape or wing stitching but very toxic
ie isocyanates.Any experience appreciated.
Thanks, Harry Cieslar, Avid Magnum builder, Goderich ,Ontario
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