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1. 12:42 AM - Re: finally i got my check ride, BUT. (Michel Verheughe)
2. 12:48 AM - ER: gps (Michel Verheughe)
3. 04:55 AM - Re: gps (steve shinabery)
4. 04:56 AM - Re: finally i got my check ride, BUT. (KITFOXZ@aol.com)
5. 05:13 AM - Great Lakes Area,Kitfox Fly In (steve shinabery)
6. 05:48 AM - Re: gps (fox5flyer)
7. 05:49 AM - Re: gps (dave)
8. 05:54 AM - taildragger landing technique. (great bear)
9. 05:56 AM - Re: gps (SkySteve)
10. 06:19 AM - Wing stands? (Harold McConnell)
11. 06:29 AM - Re: Re: gps (bob noffs)
12. 06:50 AM - Re: Kitfox Coeur D' Alene owners (crazyivan)
13. 07:09 AM - pda/gps (bob noffs)
14. 07:09 AM - Re: Wing stands? (Tom Jones)
15. 07:27 AM - Re: gps (dave)
16. 07:29 AM - Re: gps (dave)
17. 08:04 AM - Re: Re: gps (Guy Buchanan)
18. 08:19 AM - Re: Re: gps (Keith C.)
19. 08:44 AM - Re: Kitfox Coeur D' Alene owners (Dale Kister)
20. 08:46 AM - GPS plotting (dave)
21. 08:54 AM - Re: taildragger landing technique. (dave)
22. 08:59 AM - Re: Clipping wing and putting on a Speedster wing tip (dave)
23. 09:00 AM - Re: Great Lakes Area,Kitfox Fly In (dave)
24. 09:01 AM - Re: gps (Lynn Matteson)
25. 09:34 AM - Re: pda/gps (Michel Verheughe)
26. 09:44 AM - Re: Re: taildragger landing technique. (Noel Loveys)
27. 10:04 AM - Re: finally i got my check ride, BUT. (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?=)
28. 10:08 AM - Re: gps (Clint Bazzill)
29. 10:35 AM - gps (bob noffs)
30. 10:39 AM - Re: Re: gps (James Shumaker)
31. 10:56 AM - Weight & Balanace Program (Charles Bloom)
32. 11:18 AM - Re: gps (Michel Verheughe)
33. 11:23 AM - Re: gps (paul wilson)
34. 11:36 AM - Re: Re: gps (paul wilson)
35. 11:36 AM - Newbie with a prop ? (nick4853)
36. 11:48 AM - Re: gps (Lynn Matteson)
37. 12:01 PM - Re: Weight & Balanace Program (Pete Christensen)
38. 01:19 PM - gps (fox5flyer)
39. 01:34 PM - Re: gps/ 3 section panel (RRTRACK@aol.com)
40. 02:18 PM - Re: Newbie with a prop ? (Noel Loveys)
41. 02:59 PM - Re: Weight & Balanace Program (jdmcbean)
42. 03:24 PM - Re: gps (jdmcbean)
43. 03:30 PM - Re: ER: gps (wingnut)
44. 04:03 PM - Re: Re: Great Lakes Area,Kitfox Fly In (steve shinabery)
45. 06:02 PM - Removeable Plastic Film (Charles & Lois Peterson)
46. 06:17 PM - Re: Weight & Balanace Program (Michael Gibbs)
47. 06:18 PM - Re: Newbie with a prop ? (Tom Jones)
48. 09:29 PM - Re: Newbie with a prop ? (Guy Buchanan)
49. 09:29 PM - Re: Re: gps (Guy Buchanan)
50. 10:14 PM - Re: Newbie with a prop ? (James Shumaker)
51. 10:26 PM - finally i got my check ride, BUT. (John Allen)
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| Subject: | finally i got my check ride, BUT. |
> From: Geir Olav =D8ien [geir_olav@c2i.net]
> I got my check ride in my Kitfox IV (speedster!)yesterday. BUT I need som
e
> tip on landing this thing.
Gap seal your elevator, Geir! Try first by using any kind of tape. If you l
ike it, make something more permanent later.
I couldn't do a 3-point landing until I sealed mine. Moving the CoG aft is
IMHO not a very good idea. And yes, I agree with Tom; if you bounce it is b
ecause, by hitting the main gear first, it induced a pitch-up rotation and
you gain lift.
Why don't you come to Jarlsberg and we do some landings together? If you do
n't like asphalt, you can land on the grass shoulders of the runway. I have
asked the airfield manager before and he says it's okay.
Call me at 90206822 and we find a day to do that.
Med vennlig hilsen,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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I have a PocketPC PDA with PocketFMS and I am very pleased with it. I've just puchased
a cheap Mio PND carNav and it runs very well on that unit too. PocketFMS
runs on anything with Windows, Mobile Windows or CE Windows. It means any PC,
UMPC, PDA or PND. You can customize it to do exactly what you want. Even the
label of the buttons can be customized. It's European but it has a well maintained
US database. Check:
www.pocketfms.com
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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bob noffs wrote:
> steve, picture the airmap 2000 as a flush panel mount. i have seen the
> modification and it is slick. nothing to hold, no exposed wires.
> everyone has their favorites, i just wanted to give a heads up to
> anyone interested.
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> bob noffs
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Hi Bob,yes every one has there Favorites..a friend of mine has a Airmap
2000.he does not have the room to mount panel.it is just too big,,he saw
my Garmin 296.that I have in my kitfox 2..and he sold his Airmap and
bought a 296..for the same reason.the 296 does not take much room on the
panel.and you can mount it all most any where.does not take much room..I
too looked at the Airmap,but went with the 296,because of its size and
features..I know the my KF just does not have the room for the airmap.I
have a full panel,and needed some thing that would not take up so much
space.But then again every one has there favorites..and that is why I
went with the 296.. STEVE SHINABERY N554KF KF2
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| Subject: | Re: finally i got my check ride, BUT. |
Yes! I also like the definition of:
"A landing" is defined as: "Where a 30-foot aircraft contacts a sphere
8,000 miles in diameter --after which the pilot smiles knowingly."
John P. Marzluf "John Z"
Columbus, Ohio
Series V Outback (still out back in the garage)
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In a message dated 5/10/2008 10:15:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bnn@nethere.com writes:
"A good landing is one in which you can
use the airplane again!"
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Great Lakes Area,Kitfox Fly In |
Do to the weather here in OHIO.there will be no Fly In at this
time...BUT we will have it at another date soon..The Sky Gods did not
give us blue sky ..instead we got got a Gray Sky,and Windy Day :'( ..So
the Locals will have a large feast today of FOX Burgers and AVID Dogs
;-) and I will spend the rest of the day,cleaning the FOX... 8-) Thanks
for every one that was going to come,, STEVE SHINABERY N554KF KF2
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I have a Garmin 196, much like the 296, except it's monochrome. Rather than
try to mount it on the panel where it takes up space, I used the yoke mount
and mounted it on the stick. It sits nicely between my legs high above my
knees, doesn't contact anything, easy to see, and best of all, if I decide
to upgrade to something else, nothing is permanent. It's also very simple
to pop it out and take it with me when I leave the airplane parked on the
ramp.
My advice to anyone planning to permanently install a GPS in the panel is to
rethink it. The technology changes as fast a home computers and once you
cut that hole you're stuck with it. There are lots of ways to mount it
without having to cut holes.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."
- Joseph Joubert
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>> Checked by AVG.
> Hi Bob,yes every one has there Favorites..a friend of mine has a Airmap
> 2000.he does not have the room to mount panel.it is just too big,,he saw
> my Garmin 296.that I have in my kitfox 2..and he sold his Airmap and
> bought a 296..for the same reason.the 296 does not take much room on the
> panel.and you can mount it all most any where.does not take much room..I
> too looked at the Airmap,but went with the 296,because of its size and
> features..I know the my KF just does not have the room for the airmap.I
> have a full panel,and needed some thing that would not take up so much
> space.But then again every one has there favorites..and that is why I went
> with the 296.. STEVE SHINABERY N554KF KF2
>
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I have a Garmin 196. Works great , simple and cheap
http://cgi.ebay.com/Garmin-196-GPS_W0QQitemZ260237011398QQihZ016QQcategoryZ84075QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
You can buy used for usually about 400$ or so. or new for 799$
If it dies Garmin charges 200$ and they repair of replace it. Good deal imo.
If you want the aviation databases they go with a 196 over a 195. All your airport
data is right there.
Here is a few pics from our short trip yesterday.
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| Subject: | taildragger landing technique. |
Hello all, I was just checking out the list and had to make a post about the fellow
getting a check ride and having difficulties with landings....Go back to
your primary flight training and remember that proper landings begin with holding
the aircraft at three point attitude plus a little more...it does not matter
whether its a trike gear or tail dragger the same rule applies...three point
plus a little at landing....so this means that proper landing flare is three
point plus ..so the tail wheel would touch down slightly first and as the main
gear touches down, the angle of attack decreases and the aircraft will stay
on the ground....conversely if you touch the mains first and then the tailwheel
the angle of attack increases and the aircraft will return to the air and then
the pilot induced oscillation starts....as you become more proficient you will
be able to touch all three wheels at the same time and then move on to wheel
landings...25 year pilot
95% taildragger time...flying a Glasair 1 TD
Now on to my issue...I am building a 5 outback and will be installing an 0-200
cont....any prop recomendations as well as exhaust....leaning towards an IVO magnum
two blade....would like to keep things light as I am building for light
sport. Great forum and good advice....GARY
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Bob,
I am also planning on purchasing a Lowrance 2000c. Sporty's has it for $599.
Who has it for $589 including shipping?
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Huntsville, UT
Kitfox I-IV 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertable Nosewheel & Tailwheel
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Can anyone out there in Kitfox world give me some information on building wing
stands to support the wings while covering and painting the wings on a Kitfox.
My wings have permanently attached droop tips so that needs to be taken into
account. What have you used, what worked well, simple to build... I am re-covering
the wings on my model 3 and was hoping for a better way to handle the wings
during this process. Help!
Harold - N830HM - Kitfox 3 with 582 and tube gear - 760 hours.
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hi steve,
go to www.pilotshop.com
bob noffs
----- Original Message -----
From: "SkySteve" <Wilson@REinfo.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:54 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: gps
>
> Bob,
> I am also planning on purchasing a Lowrance 2000c. Sporty's has it for
> $599. Who has it for $589 including shipping?
>
> --------
> Steve Wilson
> Huntsville, UT
> Kitfox I-IV 85DD
> 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
> Convertable Nosewheel & Tailwheel
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=182468#182468
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Coeur D' Alene owners |
Did you try Spokane for lodging? It's a larger city not too far away. Good luck
to your wife.
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Dave
Speedster 912 UL
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hi michel, a few years ago i downloaded a very cheap program to use my
palm pilot for navigation. no complaints, it worked as advertised. from
somewhere i acquired the wiring harnesses to hook the palm pilot to my
garmin 12. what i ran into with the harness was that although it charged
the gps it didnt charge the palm pilot! that made the harness useless as
far as i was concerned. i have since found a vendor who makes a correct
harness for $65. do you know of any suppliers for the harness that
charges everything? at this point the palm pilot would be a ''backup''.
i am starting to lean towards a used ebay aviation handheld as a backup
rather than dumping $80 on a harness.
bob noffs
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| Subject: | Re: Wing stands? |
kf30hm(at)yahoo.com wrote:
> Can anyone out there in Kitfox world give me some information on building wing
stands to support the wings while covering and painting the wings on a Kitfox.
My wings have permanently attached droop tips so that needs to be taken into
account. What have you used, what worked well, simple to build... I am re-covering
the wings on my model 3 and was hoping for a better way to handle the wings
during this process. Help!
> Harold - N830HM - Kitfox 3 with 582 and tube gear - 760 hours.
>
Harold, here's a link to an easy to build wing painting rotisserie.
http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=1009991609
For covering you can't find an easier or more useful support than the modified
saw horses shown in the Polly Fiber manual.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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Here are some pics of my Garmin 196
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Garmin 196 new 695 $
http://www.canada-shops.com/Stores/vippilotcenter/c26848.2.html
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At 05:42 AM 5/11/2008, fox5flyer wrote:
>My advice to anyone planning to permanently install a GPS in the
>panel is to rethink it. The technology changes as fast a home
>computers and once you cut that hole you're stuck with it. There
>are lots of ways to mount it without having to cut holes.
Are you a techno-junkie Deke? :-) Actually this is a really
good argument for modular face plates on panels. Those of you who are
building should consider making the entire face of the panel modular
and replaceable so you can have things neatly in the panel, but
change with technology. I prefer stuff in the panel, but
unfortunately my panel is not modular, so I'm stuck with it until a
major re-fit. At that time I'll modify it to be modular. Fortunately
I don't care much about new stuff since my needs are really simple.
(VFR + basic GPS + music. And I mostly care about the music. TGFIpod.)
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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Guy,
When I get there (re-fit) where would I look for modular info.
Do not archive
Keith C.
Mod IV 912 IVO
Mather (MHR) CA
> Are you a techno-junkie Deke? :-) Actually this is a really
> good argument for modular face plates on panels. Those of you who are
> building should consider making the entire face of the panel modular
> and replaceable so you can have things neatly in the panel, but
> change with technology. I prefer stuff in the panel, but
> unfortunately my panel is not modular, so I'm stuck with it until a
> major re-fit. At that time I'll modify it to be modular. Fortunately
> I don't care much about new stuff since my needs are really simple.
> (VFR + basic GPS + music. And I mostly care about the music. TGFIpod.)
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Coeur D' Alene owners |
I did live in CDA, but I am located in Phoenix now, so can't help much.
Try Post Falls, they have several motels and they are only 10 miles west
of CDA>
Good luck,
Dale Kister
debrun26@juno.com wrote:
>
> Are there any Kitfox members that live in Coeur D' Alene, Idaho that
> would be able to put my wife, son And I up for the night of May 24th
> (Memorial weekend). We are coming from Alaska for my wife to run the
> marathon in Cueur D' Alene and just checked for lodging, not realizing
> it was memorial weekend, and found everyone already booked. Please
> contact me off line~ Thanks much, Layne Cropper Anchorage, Ak
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Some of the neatest stuff is showing your trip
Here is a few from yesterday as we landed on a narrow beach 20 miles out on a
sand spit near the USA border.
Kitfox is truly an amazing aircraft. I took a passenger out there yesterday and
he was totally amazed at what a Kitfox could do off the tarmac. Soft sand,
shallow water etc. Beach landings were scattered with driftwood and debris from
winter and this is very remote area. My poor little Kitfox IV 582 with 450
hours hauled us both 220 lbs each off the soft sand with really no wind in about
200 feet and we cruised about 90 to 92 mph with the big Kingfox tires. Truly
amazing aircraft.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: taildragger landing technique. |
I have some landing on my Videos here you could search through
http://www.youtube.com/user/kitfoxflyer
Some here for sure http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j7aBw90n9U
I never really pay much attention to how I land on mains or all three or even
on one main. Too much fun flying these Kitfox to think about that stuff :)
Hope these help
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Clipping wing and putting on a Speedster wing tip |
> Have a Classic Kitfox IV 1050lb 100% completed.
> Thinking of clipping the wing and installing a Speedster wing tip.
> Does anyone have a diagram of the Speedster wing measurements?
> Also in the process of installing a radiator scoop for the Rotax 912ul.
> Kitfox has the tips for $170 each, plus $350 for hardware.
>
To clarify-- are Classic IV is a 1200 gross model.
I would think that you have a 1050 Kitfox IV with droop tips. I have pondered
the though of the newer hoerner style tips but I have yet to see and conclusive
proof that I Will gain or lose anything so I still have my droop tips performance
wise.
If you cut your wings shorter you will lose STOL performance and I don't think
the speed gain will be much. You might lose gross weight as well.
Question is what do you really want out of your Kitfox?
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Steve, sorry to hear about the cancellation today.
Always another day !!
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Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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I mounted my 296 in the quick-release mount that came with the unit.
I built a bracket that adapts the quick-release mount to the panel.
It stands just off the panel, so there is no need to cut the panel.
Any future updating will simply require a new bracket.
Lynn Matteson
On May 11, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
>
> At 05:42 AM 5/11/2008, fox5flyer wrote:
>> My advice to anyone planning to permanently install a GPS in the
>> panel is to rethink it. The technology changes as fast a home
>> computers and once you cut that hole you're stuck with it. There
>> are lots of ways to mount it without having to cut holes.
>
> Are you a techno-junkie Deke? :-) Actually this is a really
> good argument for modular face plates on panels. Those of you who
> are building should consider making the entire face of the panel
> modular and replaceable so you can have things neatly in the panel,
> but change with technology. I prefer stuff in the panel, but
> unfortunately my panel is not modular, so I'm stuck with it until a
> major re-fit. At that time I'll modify it to be modular.
> Fortunately I don't care much about new stuff since my needs are
> really simple. (VFR + basic GPS + music. And I mostly care about
> the music. TGFIpod.)
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
>
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> From: bob noffs [icubob@newnorth.net]
> do you know of any suppliers for the harness that charges everything?
Alas, Bob, it's a jungle out there. As you know, the IT has gone wild and competition
is so hard that they confuse you just to be able to do comparison impossible.
That's what my son, who works for the major Norwegian telecom provider,
tells me.
A Palm is not a PocketPC. Different software. PocketFMS, which is what I use and
know well, works on the PocketPC software, which is Microsoft Mobile Windows.
Garmin/Jeppesen is today dominating the market. Good products. But if we - the
pilots - want to be able to choose, we need at least two competing products. If
you buy, e.g. a Lowrance, you still buy the Jeppesen's database. What we need
is someone else who gather all data, those found in the AIPs but also those
from different non-AIP (understand, private) airfields. If you want to do it correctly,
you have to check all the data and update it for every AIRAC, i.e. every
28 days.
To do that for a worldwide database is a Herculean work.
But that's what PocketFMS does. Actually, I am the guy who maintains the Norwegian
part of the database. I am not paid for that, I do it simply because I feel
those guys need a help so that they can get started.
Hardware and software vary. Each product says that their hardware is better (screen
resolution, readability in sunlight) and their software is also better (WX
display, flight planning, etc.)
The truth is that the most important factor is the accuracy of the database. Airspace
infringement is a big problem over here and I think it is too in the US.
When ATC says: Avoid Romeo one two because active, it is not time to answer:
I don't have that Restriced area on my GPS moving map.
PocketFMS used to be 'donationware.' But they had to give up that when the DAFIF
database was no longer available. Everything then had to be done by hand and
at least two persons had to work at maintaining the database on full time basis.
Even if aided by a bunch of helping benevolants.
The main advantage of PocketFMS is that you can run it on the hardware you want
- as long as it is Microsoft compatible. Flight planning is on the PC, then you
sync to your PDA or PND and go and fly. The GPS is incorporated in those units
and if you connect it to your aircraft battery, you are in business.
I have two PDA but I newly bought a cheap Mio PND, the type that you have in your
car. I simply sync the program from the PC on a SD memory card and insert it
in the PND. Lo and behold, instead of the road nagivation software, I have PocketFMS
with all of its functions.
The drawback of PocketFMS is that you must subscribe on a yearly basis. You then
get all the 13 updates from the AIRACs. But, unlike other products, you cannot
buy only one update. That's a policy the founders of PocketFMS have decided:
Safety first. If you fly with e.g. 9 months old data, it may not be accurate;
airspace changes very often, at least here in Europe. With the yearly subscription
that costs 150 Euro, you know that you have the latest data anytime. When
I fly e.g. from Norway to Belgium, crossing Swedish, Danish, German, Dutch
and Belgian airspaces, I want to stay away from problems and fly VFR safely.
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: taildragger landing technique. |
Only problem with your videos is I tend to spend a half hour looking the
rest of them again... and again...and again
They're like chips, one is never enough.
Keep posting.
Noel
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:22 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: taildragger landing technique.
I have some landing on my Videos here you could search through
http://www.youtube.com/user/kitfoxflyer
Some here for sure http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j7aBw90n9U
I never really pay much attention to how I land on mains or all three or
even on one main. Too much fun flying these Kitfox to think about that
stuff :)
Hope these help
Dave
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| Subject: | finally i got my check ride, BUT. |
Michel
I will gap seal my elevator to see if that helps. I will call you soon, and
I will come down to your place and we can do some landings at Jarlsberg
(only soft field landings for me), just need a new radio, or fix the one I
have (ICOM that will not transmit, only receive).
But I see the point where I do not have enough elevator authority and the
main wheels hit the ground before the tail (with the control stick fully
aft). CG is not a issue, because I have a 25lbs chute mounted below the
turtle deck, and my CG is in the aft range.
Thanks for your offer Michel, talk to you later.
Geir
LN-YGR
Kitfox IV (speedster wing)
Jabiru 2200.
http://tinyurl.com/6d245z
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] P vegne av Michel Verheughe
Sendt: 11. mai 2008 09:38
Til: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Emne: RE: Kitfox-List: finally i got my check ride, BUT.
> From: Geir Olav ien [geir_olav@c2i.net]
> I got my check ride in my Kitfox IV (speedster!)yesterday. BUT I need some
> tip on landing this thing.
Gap seal your elevator, Geir! Try first by using any kind of tape. If you
like it, make something more permanent later.
I couldn't do a 3-point landing until I sealed mine. Moving the CoG aft is
IMHO not a very good idea. And yes, I agree with Tom; if you bounce it is
because, by hitting the main gear first, it induced a pitch-up rotation and
you gain lift.
Why don't you come to Jarlsberg and we do some landings together? If you
don't like asphalt, you can land on the grass shoulders of the runway. I
have asked the airfield manager before and he says it's okay.
Call me at 90206822 and we find a day to do that.
Med vennlig hilsen,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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I think that cutting a hole in the panel for a custom mount is ok, But I wo
uld make it square and standard size and then make an adapter to fit the GP
S that way you, or some one else could change units. Clint> Date: Sun, 11
May 2008 08:00:40 -0700> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com; kitfox-list@matroni
cs.com> From: bnn@nethere.com> Subject: Re: Re: Kitfox-List: gps> > --> Kit
fox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>> > At 05:42 AM 5
/11/2008, fox5flyer wrote:> >My advice to anyone planning to permanently in
stall a GPS in the > >panel is to rethink it. The technology changes as fas
t a home > >computers and once you cut that hole you're stuck with it. Ther
e > >are lots of ways to mount it without having to cut holes.> > Are you a
techno-junkie Deke? :-) Actually this is a really > good argument for modu
lar face plates on panels. Those of you who are > building should consider
making the entire face of the panel modular > and replaceable so you can ha
ve things neatly in the panel, but > change with technology. I prefer stuff
in the panel, but > unfortunately my panel is not modular, so I'm stuck wi
th it until a > major re-fit. At that time I'll modify it to be modular. Fo
rtunately > I don't care much about new stuff since my needs are really sim
ple. > (VFR + basic GPS + music. And I mostly care about the music. TGFIpod
.)> > > Guy Buchanan> San Diego, CA> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done,
===========> > >
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hi lynn,
those quick release panel mounts are a slick way to go. if redoing a
panel for a new gps were a problem i would go with the bracket you talk
about. as it is my panel has everything [ engine monitor, flight
instruments switches , etc] but the transponder on the left 18 inches.
i made the panel removeable and in 4 pieces so a new gps would require a
piece of panel i could make in probably 2 hours. the pilot side is a
different matter, it would take several days of layout and a hundred
holes to drill. the fisher dakota hawk is blessed with a lot of panel
space.
i just looked and i have your address, probably from the jab list. i
will send you a pic.
bob noffs
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I just flew with a low end monochrome Lowrance and found it was very BAD. It popped
up warnings every time I turned the plane (you are approaching Monterey
airspace). The warning was right the center of the moving map. A moving map
that is default north up and knots (with no label to tell if it is knots or mph)
and no way to change the start up defaults. Was more of a distraction than
a help.
For the same money you can get Anywhere map loaded on a PDA that is brilliant color,
daylight readable and loads of excellent features. Anywhere map is not
as solidly reliable and easy to use a the Garmin 296, but GPS is definitely a
place where you get what you pay for.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message ----
From: SkySteve <Wilson@REinfo.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 5:54:32 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: gps
Bob,
I am also planning on purchasing a Lowrance 2000c. Sporty's has it for $599.
Who has it for $589 including shipping?
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Huntsville, UT
Kitfox I-IV 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertable Nosewheel & Tailwheel
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| Subject: | Weight & Balanace Program |
About a year ago, in reply to a request, a kind soul sent me a weight
and balance program for their kitfox in Excel format. I worked
beautifully. Unfortuantely it for erased from my file. I would sure like
to get it back.
Thanks
Chuck
Kitfox Model IV
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> From: Clint Bazzill [clint_bazzill@hotmail.com]
> My advice to anyone planning to permanently install a GPS in the
> panel is to rethink it. The technology changes as fast a home
> computers and once you cut that hole you're stuck with it.
I agree 100%. During the five years I've had my Kitfox, I have changed for three
different hardware. I have a hole big enough to have a power cable through it,
then four holes in which I screw homemade aluminium adaptors that match the
supporting bracket of the device.
Here is how my latest Mio PND looks like:
http://home.online.no/~michel/tmp/PocketFMS/Mio.jpg
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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And if you do not like that mount, "RAM" makes universal mounts the
will work any situation. I like the gps very close by to allow ease
of reading and ease of control. The are ball joint adjustable and
the one I use allows the gps to snap in and out.
Here is an example
http://www.gpszone.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=RMGUB138GA7
However your imagination allows nearly unlimited variations. Like
suction cups and longer arms and dual ball joints, etc..
PW
=============
At 09:58 AM 5/11/2008, you wrote:
>
>I mounted my 296 in the quick-release mount that came with the unit.
>I built a bracket that adapts the quick-release mount to the panel.
>It stands just off the panel, so there is no need to cut the panel.
>Any future updating will simply require a new bracket.
>
>
>Lynn Matteson
>
>
>On May 11, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
>
>>
>>At 05:42 AM 5/11/2008, fox5flyer wrote:
>>>My advice to anyone planning to permanently install a GPS in the
>>>panel is to rethink it. The technology changes as fast a home
>>>computers and once you cut that hole you're stuck with it. There
>>>are lots of ways to mount it without having to cut holes.
>>
>> Are you a techno-junkie Deke? :-) Actually this is a really
>>good argument for modular face plates on panels. Those of you who
>>are building should consider making the entire face of the panel
>>modular and replaceable so you can have things neatly in the panel,
>>but change with technology. I prefer stuff in the panel, but
>>unfortunately my panel is not modular, so I'm stuck with it until a
>>major re-fit. At that time I'll modify it to be modular.
>>Fortunately I don't care much about new stuff since my needs are
>>really simple. (VFR + basic GPS + music. And I mostly care about
>>the music. TGFIpod.)
>>
>>
>>Guy Buchanan
>>San Diego, CA
>>K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>>
>>
>
>
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I am surpriesed with your issues with the Lowrance. But good to hear
about them.
My hiking Lowrance allows me to display things like heading, speed,
and many other items either with or without the label. I can define
the units and whether I want to display them and I always delete the
warnings. Of course even if a warning is displayed just touch the
exit button and it goes away. I thought all the Lowrance units used
the same chip? True monochome is not preferred. My color units can be
adjusted for very clear viewing in bright sunlight. Not wise for
hiking due to short battery life.
IMO, From my reading the Garmin is the way to go.
PW
================
At 11:35 AM 5/11/2008, you wrote:
>I just flew with a low end monochrome Lowrance and found it was very
>BAD. It popped up warnings every time I turned the plane (you are
>approaching Monterey airspace). The warning was right the center of
>the moving map. A moving map that is default north up and knots
>(with no label to tell if it is knots or mph) and no way to change
>the start up defaults. Was more of a distraction than a help.
>
>For the same money you can get Anywhere map loaded on a PDA that is
>brilliant color, daylight readable and loads of excellent
>features. Anywhere map is not as solidly reliable and easy to use a
>the Garmin 296, but GPS is definitely a place where you get what you pay for.
>
>Jim Shumaker
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: SkySteve <Wilson@REinfo.org>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 5:54:32 AM
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: gps
>
><<mailto:Wilson@REinfo.org>Wilson@REinfo.org>
>
>Bob,
>I am also planning on purchasing a Lowrance 2000c. Sporty's has it
>for $599. Who has it for $589 including shipping?
>
>--------
>Steve Wilson
>Huntsville, UT
>Kitfox I-IV 85DD
>912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
>Convertable Nosewheel & Tailwheel
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>
><http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
><http://www.matronics.com/contribution>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
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| Subject: | Newbie with a prop ? |
I've been lurking in the shadows for along time. I've been fascinated by this little
airplane and all the talk. I am currently going for my light sport with
17.3 hrs down. So two weeks ago I saw a nice model iv on barnstormers with 102
hrs and a trailer I bit the bullet threw my money down and now I have N433R
sitting in the shop. I've gone over it with a/p friend and everything looks
good but the old gsc prop has got to go (5year, 500hr AD). I ordered a new warp
tapper tip to go in front of the 912ul. My ? is what if anything do I have
to do to keep the Faa happy. Is this considered major under Far 21.93 and if
so what procedure is necessary to keep my certificate valid.
Thanks ,
Nick
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Hi Bob-
You did the panel like I should have....in sections...that's a good
idea. So far I haven't needed to change anything on mine, except for
a change from one type of turn coordinator to another, but in the
same size. How long before the plane is done?
Lynn
On May 11, 2008, at 1:27 PM, bob noffs wrote:
> hi lynn,
> those quick release panel mounts are a slick way to go. if redoing
> a panel for a new gps were a problem i would go with the bracket
> you talk about. as it is my panel has everything [ engine monitor,
> flight instruments switches , etc] but the transponder on the left
> 18 inches. i made the panel removeable and in 4 pieces so a new gps
> would require a piece of panel i could make in probably 2 hours.
> the pilot side is a different matter, it would take several days of
> layout and a hundred holes to drill. the fisher dakota hawk is
> blessed with a lot of panel space.
> i just looked and i have your address, probably from the jab list.
> i will send you a pic.
> bob noffs
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| Subject: | Re: Weight & Balanace Program |
It's on Merle's web site.
Pete
http://murlewilliamsaviation.com/ads.html
----- Original Message -----
From: Charles Bloom
To: Kitfox-List@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:03 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Weight & Balanace Program
About a year ago, in reply to a request, a kind soul sent me a weight
and balance program for their kitfox in Excel format. I worked
beautifully. Unfortuantely it for erased from my file. I would sure like
to get it back.
Thanks
Chuck
Kitfox Model IV
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At one time Skystar was offering a 3-section panel. Very nice unit and if I
was to redo mine, that's the way I would go. Does anybody know if John or
any aftermarket vendors still supply these panels for a Kitfox?
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: gps
>
> Hi Bob-
> You did the panel like I should have....in sections...that's a good idea.
> So far I haven't needed to change anything on mine, except for a change
> from one type of turn coordinator to another, but in the same size. How
> long before the plane is done?
>
> Lynn
> On May 11, 2008, at 1:27 PM, bob noffs wrote:
>
>> hi lynn,
>> those quick release panel mounts are a slick way to go. if redoing a
>> panel for a new gps were a problem i would go with the bracket you talk
>> about. as it is my panel has everything [ engine monitor, flight
>> instruments switches , etc] but the transponder on the left 18 inches.
>> i made the panel removeable and in 4 pieces so a new gps would require a
>> piece of panel i could make in probably 2 hours. the pilot side is a
>> different matter, it would take several days of layout and a hundred
>> holes to drill. the fisher dakota hawk is blessed with a lot of panel
>> space.
>> i just looked and i have your address, probably from the jab list. i
>> will send you a pic.
>> bob noffs
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List_-
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| Subject: | Re: gps/ 3 section panel |
I have the 3 section panel on my Vixen. I really like it. I hope to go to a
glass panel next year and will need new sections to work with. I'd be
interested if they are available as well.
Mark
Kitfox 5 Vixen
912UL IVO
Hartford, Wisconsin
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| Subject: | Newbie with a prop ? |
How is your plane registered? AB? I can't speak for U.S., but I expect you
will be ok to do the swap and if you don't have the repairman cert you can
get your A&P to sign it off.
I expect the folks at Warp have come across this before. Check with them.
Noel Loveys
AME Intern, RPP
Kitfox III-A, 582,B box
Ivo IFA, Aerocet 1100 floats
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nick4853
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:04 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Newbie with a prop ?
I've been lurking in the shadows for along time. I've been fascinated by
this little airplane and all the talk. I am currently going for my light
sport with 17.3 hrs down. So two weeks ago I saw a nice model iv on
barnstormers with 102 hrs and a trailer I bit the bullet threw my money down
and now I have N433R sitting in the shop. I've gone over it with a/p friend
and everything looks good but the old gsc prop has got to go (5year, 500hr
AD). I ordered a new warp tapper tip to go in front of the 912ul. My ? is
what if anything do I have to do to keep the Faa happy. Is this considered
major under Far 21.93 and if so what procedure is necessary to keep my
certificate valid.
Thanks ,
Nick
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| Subject: | Weight & Balanace Program |
Try this link as well for Weight & Balance templates. HYPERLINK
"http://kitfoxaircraft.com/FAQ-Tech.htm"http://kitfoxaircraft.com/FAQ-Tech.h
tm
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
Ph 208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
Checked by AVG.
11:12 AM
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Yes we do...
Actually we can supply most if not all the parts for the Kitfox Models.
Some of the older ones... pre Model IV take a little time but we can usually
help. Safe to say that for the Model IV and newer models we can help with
most any part.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
Ph 208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 2:14 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: gps
At one time Skystar was offering a 3-section panel. Very nice unit and if I
was to redo mine, that's the way I would go. Does anybody know if John or
any aftermarket vendors still supply these panels for a Kitfox?
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: gps
>
> Hi Bob-
> You did the panel like I should have....in sections...that's a good idea.
> So far I haven't needed to change anything on mine, except for a change
> from one type of turn coordinator to another, but in the same size. How
> long before the plane is done?
>
> Lynn
> On May 11, 2008, at 1:27 PM, bob noffs wrote:
>
>> hi lynn,
>> those quick release panel mounts are a slick way to go. if redoing a
>> panel for a new gps were a problem i would go with the bracket you talk
>> about. as it is my panel has everything [ engine monitor, flight
>> instruments switches , etc] but the transponder on the left 18 inches.
>> i made the panel removeable and in 4 pieces so a new gps would require a
>> piece of panel i could make in probably 2 hours. the pilot side is a
>> different matter, it would take several days of layout and a hundred
>> holes to drill. the fisher dakota hawk is blessed with a lot of panel
>> space.
>> i just looked and i have your address, probably from the jab list. i
>> will send you a pic.
>> bob noffs
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List_-
>> ============================================================ _-
>> forums.matronics.com_-
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>> contribution_-
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>
>
>
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I installed a Pocket PC in my plane (Dell Axim X3) with the intention of running
Pocket FMS. This was back when Pocket FMS was free. I was a bit disappointed
with the readability in sunlight and then Pocket FMS stopped being free. In fact,
not only is it not free, you can't buy it. You can only rent it for $210/year
(at the current exchange rate). Once I added up the PDA, the GPS and two
years rent on the software, it was coming out the same price as a reconditioned
Garmin 296. No contest in my mind.
http://www.tropicaero.com/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=296-081
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Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)
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| Subject: | Re: Great Lakes Area,Kitfox Fly In |
dave wrote:
>
> Steve, sorry to hear about the cancellation today.
>
> Always another day !!
>
> --------
> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
> Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
> http://www.cfisher.com/
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=182495#182495
>
>
>
Thanks Dave,,a few brave people did drive in..I did get to fly
today,flying around the rain cells :'( ..BUT Spring Weather here in
OHIO >:o ,right now a little sick,I think I ate too many FOX
burgers+AVID Dogs..Thanks Dave Fisher,,,,but we will have another one at
a later date,when the SKY Gods give us BLUE Skys,,,,STEVE SHINABERY
N554KF KF2
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| Subject: | Removeable Plastic Film |
Thanks to all who responded regarding removing the almost unremoveable
plastic film from my flaperons. After a weeks worth of peeling and
picking, here is what worked for me. I initially tried a heat gun, but
the heat scared me. A calibrated iron was tried. I tried all the
solvents suggested from the list plus more, all the solvents around the
house. None of the solvents really worked. Denatured ethyl alcohol
might have had a minor effect, but not enough to get the job done. Heat
works, but must be carefully controlled. Our hot water heaters are set
about 140 degrees F. I cannot keep my hands under the hot water
spiggot. Figuring that 140 degrees or less is safe (since the epoxy is
labeled to 250) I did a lot of switching the gun on and off and covering
small areas (estimated 10 square inches) and kept my hands on the
treated area. This is to report what worked for me. I used heat on
only the most difficult areas, where crazing and cracks could be
observed in the film. 80% of the film was removed by peeling very
slowly and carefully. When I got to the tough parts, encouragement from
my wife and the heat gun got me through it. The reward for perseverance
and sore fingers is clean flaperons which are now attached to the Lite
and (almost) ready to go.
Charles Peterson
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| Subject: | Re: Weight & Balanace Program |
>It's on Merle's web site.
>Pete
><http://murlewilliamsaviation.com/ads.html>http://murlewilliamsaviation.com/ads.html
The site is right, the URL is wrong. It's on the downloads page (but
I'm sure that Murle appreciates everyone looking at his ads, too!):
http://murlewilliamsaviation.com/ads.html
Mike G.
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie with a prop ? |
nick4853 wrote:
> I've been lurking in the shadows for along time. I've been fascinated by this
little airplane and all the talk. I am currently going for my light sport with
17.3 hrs down. So two weeks ago I saw a nice model iv on barnstormers with
102 hrs and a trailer I bit the bullet threw my money down and now I have N433R
sitting in the shop. I've gone over it with a/p friend and everything looks
good but the old gsc prop has got to go (5year, 500hr AD). I ordered a new
warp tapper tip to go in front of the 912ul. My ? is what if anything do I have
to do to keep the Faa happy. Is this considered major under Far 21.93 and
if so what procedure is necessary to keep my certificate valid.
> Thanks ,
> Nick
Nick, first congratulations on new airplane. Excellent choice.
The "Operating limitations", issued as part of the airworthiness certificate for
your kitfox will explain when you must notify your local FSDO about changes
to the airplane. Installing a different make prop is a major change. It probably
says you must notify them in writing. I would give your local FSDO a call
first and ask what they need/want from you.
For what it is worth. Anyone can work on an experimental aircraft. The only signature
needed in the aircraft log book is for the annual condition inspection.
That must be signed by the original builder who holds a repairman's certificate
for that plane with it's serial number or, an A&P mechanic.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie with a prop ? |
At 11:34 AM 5/11/2008, you wrote:
>Is this considered major under Far 21.93 and if so what procedure is
>necessary to keep my certificate valid.
I agree with Tom, but you really should contact your local
FSDO. Unfortunately there is a depressing lack of uniformity within
the FAA, and you should probably please the folk who are going to be
doing the inspection when you crash. (Actually I think it's the NTSB
that does the inspecting, but the FAA might be there too.)
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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At 08:16 AM 5/11/2008, you wrote:
>When I get there (re-fit) where would I look for modular info.
There's no info, you get to make it up yourself. >:-} I will
cut out sections of the existing panel that I think make sense from a
maintenance standpoint. I will then reinforce the remainder of the
panel to support itself and the cut out "modules". The modules will
then be put back on, (or new plates made,) with hinges and all the
wiring / tubing will be strain relieved at the hinge line. The
opposite end will be fastened with a couple of fasteners, (or more,)
the whole idea being that if I want to get behind the panel I can
very easily. If I want to do a mod, I replace a flat panel plate, a
fairly easy proposition.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie with a prop ? |
Nick
A prop change requires a 5 hour fly off. This will give you a chance to get the
pitch right and do the climb and cruise numbers for the pilots hand book. The
5 hours means no passengers and remaining within 25 miles of the airport.
Also all the required torquing tracking and re-torquing needs to be completed
and logged. The taper tip warp will fly much better than the GSC. More power
and better climb. It was not required to have a re-inspection, only my sign
off as the builder.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message ----
From: nick4853 <nweiskopf@verizon.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 11:34:20 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Newbie with a prop ?
I've been lurking in the shadows for along time. I've been fascinated by this little
airplane and all the talk. I am currently going for my light sport with
17.3 hrs down. So two weeks ago I saw a nice model iv on barnstormers with 102
hrs and a trailer I bit the bullet threw my money down and now I have N433R
sitting in the shop. I've gone over it with a/p friend and everything looks
good but the old gsc prop has got to go (5year, 500hr AD). I ordered a new warp
tapper tip to go in front of the 912ul. My ? is what if anything do I have
to do to keep the Faa happy. Is this considered major under Far 21.93 and if
so what procedure is necessary to keep my certificate valid.
Thanks ,
Nick
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| Subject: | finally i got my check ride, BUT. |
"From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?= <geir_olav@c2i.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: finally i got my check ride, BUT.
I got my check ride in my Kitfox IV (speedster!)yesterday. BUT I need
some tip on landing this thing. When doing a 3 pointer, and stalls out 4=94 above
ground, I easily bounces 2 feet into the air again."
I think you are a little lower than you think you are, thus your mains are hitting
the ground before you are stalled, causing the tail to come down abruptly,
increasing the angle of attack, and throwing your nose back up into the air.
A contributing factor may be that using flaps is reducing your ability to flare.
In mine, it is difficult to get the tail down with flaps.
I don't know about your tires or bungees, because I switched mine from bungees
and square-shouldered trailer tires to Grove gear and 6:00 x 6 airplane tires,
which tamed it. I don't think your approach speed is involved in your boouncing
problem. I think mine stalls at about 45 IAS without flaps and without power.
If I hit the ground in mine and bounce, I just hold the stick full back and keep
on landing. If I drop it in, I do the same thing. Once you learn where the
ground plane is and quit using flaps so you can flare properly, you should not
have that problem any more. That takes lots of practice. After you master
that, you can try it with flaps.
JA Kitfox IV Speedster
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