---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/22/08: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:53 AM - HKS (Heinz Lang) 2. 06:08 AM - Show us your panel!! (jlfernan) 3. 06:35 AM - Looking for Tim Foss from Minnesota (Firm) 4. 06:40 AM - Re: Show us your panel!! (K&MCozik) 5. 06:56 AM - Re: HKS (bob noffs) 6. 07:05 AM - Re: Show us your panel!! (Don & Betty Stevenson) 7. 08:08 AM - Fw: Re: Kitfox for sale (Jerry) 8. 10:43 AM - Re: Show us your panel!! (Guy Buchanan) 9. 10:49 AM - Re: Show us your panel!! (K&MCozik) 10. 11:36 AM - Re: Planning Trip to High Valley Resort (north Georgia) (FlyboyTR) 11. 12:06 PM - Vixen (series 5) Cracked Engine Mount (FlyboyTR) 12. 12:17 PM - Re: Show us your panel!! (FlyboyTR) 13. 02:11 PM - Re: Vixen (series 5) Cracked Engine Mount (jdmcbean) 14. 02:35 PM - Re: Vixen (series 5) Cracked Engine Mount (FlyboyTR) 15. 02:45 PM - Re: Show us your panel!! (Dacha) 16. 03:48 PM - Re: Show us your panel!! (kirk hull) 17. 03:50 PM - Re: Show us your panel!! (kirk hull) 18. 03:52 PM - Re: Re: Vixen (series 5) Cracked Engine Mount (jdmcbean) 19. 05:11 PM - VG's for Series-7 (Rich L) 20. 06:30 PM - Fw: Re: Show us your panel!! (Don & Betty Stevenson) 21. 08:24 PM - Re: VG's for Series-7 (darinh) 22. 09:16 PM - Re: Re: Show us your panel!! (Guy Buchanan) 23. 09:16 PM - Re: Show us your panel!! (Guy Buchanan) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:53:32 AM PST US From: "Heinz Lang" Subject: Kitfox-List: HKS Anybody knows about a producer of FF parts, e.g. engine mount for HKS engin es into Kitfox, exept greensky and lost hill=3F Thanks: Heinz with Ktfox IV, #1856 -- Ich verwende die kostenlose Version von SPAMfighter f=FCr private Anwender, die bei mir bis jetzt 321 Spammails entfernt hat. Bezahlende Anwender haben diesen Hinweis nicht in ihren E-Mails. Laden Sie SPAMfighter kostenlos herunter: http://www.spamfighter.com/lde ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:34 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Show us your panel!! From: "jlfernan" I originally started the "Show us your finished Kitfox" and received a great response. Thanks guys! Now I'm looking for panel shots. One thing I'm looking for is instrumentation. I'll be using a Rotax 912 and want to see how people are monitoring their engines. I'm not real wild about the EIS engine monitors, they don't seem very intuitive to me and want to see what others have done.. -------- Jorge Fernandez Supersport Waiting on delivery Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184339#184339 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:30 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Looking for Tim Foss from Minnesota From: "Firm" Is he still on this list? Or does anyone have any contact info? TIA Howard Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184346#184346 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:32 AM PST US From: K&MCozik Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Show us your panel!! Here is my Kitfox and my new Sport Cruiser. The Kitfox has Dual Dynons, Ga rmin 327 transponder, Icom radio and 396 gps. The SC has dual Dynons, Garmin 330 mo des s transponder, Trutrak auto pilot and a Garmin 430. Kevin C Kitfox 6-7 914 Turbo Czech floats Lansing Michigan On Thu May 22 9:05 , 'jlfernan' sent: > >I originally started the "Show us your finished Kitfox" and received a gre at response. Thanks guys! Now I'm looking for panel shots. One thing I'm looking for is instrumentation. I'll be using a Rotax 912 and want to see how people are monitoring their engines. I'm not real wild about the EIS engine monitors, they don't seem very intuitive to me and want to see what others have done.. > >-------- >Jorge Fernandez >Supersport >Waiting on delivery > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php\?p=184339#184339 > > ========== ========== ========== ========== > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:29 AM PST US From: "bob noffs" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: HKS heinz, there is a shop in wis. that does welding for aviation called specialty welding. they fabricate parts for at least several well known kits. i have been in their facility and have seen the bins to hold the many products their welding booths crank out for kits. they welded my exhaust pipes to my muffler for my 3300 and built a mount for my dakota hawk. it was truly beautiful. max. strength for wt. they keep the mount attach points for jabiru in stock for making mounts. you supply the drawing of your firewall attach points, the engine or a drawing of its attach points, distance to firewall, center of thrust, and degrees offset of thrust and they will crank out a beautiful mount. at the time the cost was 1/2 of a jabiru factory mount. if you need a phone number let me know, i will dig it up. bob noffs ----- Original Message ----- From: Heinz Lang To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 3:50 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: HKS Anybody knows about a producer of FF parts, e.g. engine mount for HKS engines into Kitfox, exept greensky and lost hill? Thanks: Heinz with Ktfox IV, #1856 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Ich verwende die kostenlose Version von SPAMfighter, die bei mir bis jetzt 321 Spammails entfernt hat. F=FCr private Anwender ist SPAMfighter v=F6llig kostenlos! Jetzt gratis testen: hier klicken. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:39 AM PST US From: Don & Betty Stevenson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Show us your panel!! Hi All, Here are a couple of shots of my panel, I have this project up for sale right now, needs about 200 hrs. work to finish, if anyone is interested please contact me off list, Thanks, Don Don Stevenson Caledon Ontario Canada 905-838-5283 shericom@rogers.com I originally started the "Show us your finished Kitfox" and received a great response. Thanks guys! Now I'm looking for panel shots. One thing I'm looking for is instrumentation. I'll be using a Rotax 912 and want to see how people are monitoring their engines. I'm not real wild about the EIS engine monitors, they don't seem very intuitive to me and want to see what others have done.. -------- Jorge Fernandez Supersport Waiting on delivery Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184339#184339 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:30 AM PST US From: "Jerry" Subject: Fw: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox for sale ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:53 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox for sale It would take awhile to list, 12 gallon wing tanks, wings, larger tail surface. It was ground looped at about 220 hours. wing damage, landing gear damage, etc. This was all removed and new tubing welded in, new wings, etc. I really dont know how to cover it all. It is a real nice flying airplane, I just didnt like the 582 reliability here in Idaho. I have had recent heart and back surgery, am 67 and just think it is time to quit. Thanks for asking, if you could give me specifics I could research them, here is a couple of picts, with 582 still in. ----- Original Message ----- From: SkySteve To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox for sale What modifications have been made? -------- Steve Wilson Huntsville, UT Kitfox I-IV 85DD 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive Convertable Nosewheel & Tailwheel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184205#184205 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG. 5/21/2008 7:21 AM ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:01 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Show us your panel!! At 06:37 AM 5/22/2008, you wrote: >Here is my Kitfox and my new Sport Cruiser. Kevin, Nice panel! What's the thing that looks like a pump base down by the left stick? Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:11 AM PST US From: K&MCozik Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Show us your panel!! Thanks Guy. That's the parker hand pump for the float amphib gear. Kevin Series 6-7 914 Turbo Czech floats Lansing MI On Thu May 22 11:01 , Guy Buchanan sent: > >At 06:37 AM 5/22/2008, you wrote: >>Here is my Kitfox and my new Sport Cruiser. > >Kevin, > Nice panel! What's the thing that looks like a pump base >down by the left stick? > > >Guy Buchanan >San Diego, CA >K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:36:08 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Planning Trip to High Valley Resort (north Georgia) From: "FlyboyTR" Nope...don't think it's a bust! ...I will be there! We will arrive High Valley Resort Saturday morning, 05//24/08. For convenience, we will plan to eat at Lenny's (local shack a couple of miles away...good food!). Maybe on another trip, with a larger number of folks attending we can plan a "food thing!" We are friends with the owners and they have a full commercial kitchen in Franks Place. If we had a bunch of folks we could use that. Louis, looking forward to seeing you. We will be on 122.750 while in flight. 122.800 is the CTAF for High Valley. I have attached an information sheet I made for the HVR folks. It is a Word document. Travis :) -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop ADI-II Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184402#184402 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/high_valley_airpark_132.doc ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:06:04 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Vixen (series 5) Cracked Engine Mount From: "FlyboyTR" My Vixen has 409 hours total. On Monday I did an oil change and during inspection noted the firewall engine mount was cracked in two places. The Vixen is a nose dragger. There are two tubes that come from the engine mount down to the nose gear suspension support. That area also bolts through the firewall. The cracks were just above the weld on both down-tubes. During repair, a gusset plate was installed between the two down-tubes and a small rib gusset was also added to allow another welding point between the tubes/gusset and their attach point. It was decided upon completion that the repaired area is "now" much stronger than the original configuration. I have also found that if the nosewheel swivels easily, it will shake violently when landing on a hard surface runway (probably also does it on grass a little bit...you just can't tell it!). I tighten this part regularly so it does not swivel freely...although this does make ground steering a little more difficult. This could have been a causal factor...or landing frequently on rough grass strips. I have attached a few pictures. I encourage all Vixen owners to inspect this part ASAP. Travis :? -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop ADI-II Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184406#184406 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/motor_mount_cracked_577.doc ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:17:12 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Show us your panel!! From: "FlyboyTR" Attached are pictures of our Vixen's panel. Please note the comments on the attachment. Travis :D -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop ADI-II Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184410#184410 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/vixen_panel2_153.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/vixen_panel1_175.jpg ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:11:48 PM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Vixen (series 5) Cracked Engine Mount Travis, Good catch.. Be sure to check the nose gear strut as well... There ARE probably a couple things at play here... One.. The Nose Gear Fork should be tightened so that a minimum of 13 lbs of pressure needs to be applied to start the pivot of the fork. In other words... With the tail down and the nose in the air... If you were to grab the aft of the tire is should take a minimum of 13 lbs before the tire starts to pivot. This will seem very tight... but much less and it will shimmy. Two.. Refer to the manual for the nose gear pivot installation.. A common issue is not allowing for enough free movement of the piston and it will get on a bind.. possibly cracking the nose gear strut or the mount. Suggest referring to Service Bulletin #58 for more info. Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean Ph 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FlyboyTR Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Vixen (series 5) Cracked Engine Mount My Vixen has 409 hours total. On Monday I did an oil change and during inspection noted the firewall engine mount was cracked in two places. The Vixen is a nose dragger. There are two tubes that come from the engine mount down to the nose gear suspension support. That area also bolts through the firewall. The cracks were just above the weld on both down-tubes. During repair, a gusset plate was installed between the two down-tubes and a small rib gusset was also added to allow another welding point between the tubes/gusset and their attach point. It was decided upon completion that the repaired area is "now" much stronger than the original configuration. I have also found that if the nosewheel swivels easily, it will shake violently when landing on a hard surface runway (probably also does it on grass a little bit...you just can't tell it!). I tighten this part regularly so it does not swivel freely...although this does make ground steering a little more difficult. This could have been a causal factor...or landing frequently on rough grass strips. I have attached a few pictures. I encourage all Vixen owners to inspect this part ASAP. Travis :? -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop ADI-II Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184406#184406 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/motor_mount_cracked_577.doc Checked by AVG. 7:06 AM Checked by AVG. 7:06 AM ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:35:08 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Vixen (series 5) Cracked Engine Mount From: "FlyboyTR" John, Thanks for the reply. I find that I have to frequently (20 hours or so...) make an adjustment to the nose wheel pivot to keep it under tension. One click of the castellated nut is too tight, the other is too loose. I have two different thickness shims I use as needed. Is there a better solution to maintaining the rotational tension? I have reviewed bulletin number 58. Thanks for the heads-up...don't remember reading that one! I have about 5/8" vertical clearance/freeplay in the nose wheel pivot assembly. However, when it's hot (motor been running/flying) there is no freeplay at all. ...I assume it is from the rubber/elastomer puck/spring swelling when it gets hot. I also noted the stainless steel friction washers had been digging into the pivot assembly center rod. I lubed this when I put things back together and it felt a lot smoother. I am concerned about continued wear between the stainless and the steel. Travis :? -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop ADI-II Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184426#184426 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:45:47 PM PST US From: "Dacha" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Show us your panel!! Looks like a Garmin 195 attached to your panel. How did you do this? Nice looking job. LeRoy ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:48:37 PM PST US From: "kirk hull" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Show us your panel!! Close up of the flight inst _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dacha Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:39 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Show us your panel!! Looks like a Garmin 195 attached to your panel. How did you do this? Nice looking job. LeRoy ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:50:48 PM PST US From: "kirk hull" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Show us your panel!! Classic 4 panel still under construction with no radios yet _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dacha Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:39 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Show us your panel!! Looks like a Garmin 195 attached to your panel. How did you do this? Nice looking job. LeRoy ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:52:44 PM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Vixen (series 5) Cracked Engine Mount Travis, It may be time to change the washers and elastomers... There are also the spring tension washers for the fork.. they may be worn out as well.. contact us off-list. Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean Ph 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FlyboyTR Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 3:33 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Vixen (series 5) Cracked Engine Mount John, Thanks for the reply. I find that I have to frequently (20 hours or so...) make an adjustment to the nose wheel pivot to keep it under tension. One click of the castellated nut is too tight, the other is too loose. I have two different thickness shims I use as needed. Is there a better solution to maintaining the rotational tension? I have reviewed bulletin number 58. Thanks for the heads-up...don't remember reading that one! I have about 5/8" vertical clearance/freeplay in the nose wheel pivot assembly. However, when it's hot (motor been running/flying) there is no freeplay at all. ...I assume it is from the rubber/elastomer puck/spring swelling when it gets hot. I also noted the stainless steel friction washers had been digging into the pivot assembly center rod. I lubed this when I put things back together and it felt a lot smoother. I am concerned about continued wear between the stainless and the steel. Travis :? -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop ADI-II Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184426#184426 Checked by AVG. 7:06 AM Checked by AVG. 7:06 AM ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:52 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: VG's for Series-7 From: "Rich L" I am installing VG's on my 7 and wonder if anyone has done it yet. I would like to compare the distance from the leading edge and the number you put on each wing. They are the ones made by Harrison Designs. I did what the instructions said but don't have the nerve to GLUE yet. (not testing first) Any pictures would be greatly appreciated.... thanks Rich Bonners Ferry,ID Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184442#184442 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:30:04 PM PST US From: Don & Betty Stevenson Subject: Fwd: Re: Kitfox-List: Show us your panel!! Don & Betty Stevenson wrote: Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:03:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Don & Betty Stevenson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Show us your panel!! Hi All, Here are a couple of shots of my panel, I have this project up for sale right now, needs about 200 hrs. work to finish, if anyone is interested please contact me off list, Thanks, Don Don Stevenson Caledon Ontario Canada 905-838-5283 shericom@rogers.com I originally started the "Show us your finished Kitfox" and received a great response. Thanks guys! Now I'm looking for panel shots. One thing I'm looking for is instrumentation. I'll be using a Rotax 912 and want to see how people are monitoring their engines. I'm not real wild about the EIS engine monitors, they don't seem very intuitive to me and want to see what others have done.. -------- Jorge Fernandez Supersport Waiting on delivery Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184339#184339 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:41 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: VG's for Series-7 From: "darinh" Rich, Sorry I don't have any information for you but I would also like to add VGs to my 7 so keep us posted on what you find out. -------- Darin Hawkes Series 7 (Final Assembly) 914 Turbo Kaysville, Utah Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184461#184461 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:16:30 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Show us your panel!! At 12:14 PM 5/22/2008, you wrote: >Attached are pictures of our Vixen's panel. Please note the >comments on the attachment. Travis, It's beautiful! What engine monitor do you have? And what's the round LCD instrument under the transponder? Thanks, Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:16:30 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Show us your panel!! At 06:05 AM 5/22/2008, you wrote: >Thanks guys! Now I'm looking for panel shots. One thing I'm looking >for is instrumentation. I'll be using a Rotax 912 and want to see >how people are monitoring their engines. I'm not real wild about >the EIS engine monitors, they don't seem very intuitive to me and >want to see what others have done.. Here's mine! Basic VFR. The best thing about it is the EIS! How's that for a difference of opinion! The only other "unique" thing is the Becker transponder. I paid a little extra for a minimum weight unit; as you can see, I have a major in minimum weight, with a minor in aesthetics. (The original builder had a T&B and VSI which I didn't install because I didn't think I'd ever use them and I saved a little weight.) By the way, the panel's carbon with a wood veneer clear coated with semi-gloss Sterling. [] Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.