---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/02/08: 24 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:55 AM - Rotary engine in a Kitfox? (WurlyBird) 2. 05:58 AM - Prop for sale (Jim Gilliatt) 3. 08:34 AM - Re: Re: Ethanol? (Clint Bazzill) 4. 08:46 AM - STalled (jareds) 5. 09:30 AM - 914 Install (dcsfoto) 6. 09:49 AM - Re: N914KF has a new home (kerrjohna@comcast.net) 7. 09:52 AM - BACK IN THE AIR (n61kf) 8. 10:03 AM - Re: Re: Ethanol? (K&MCozik) 9. 11:27 AM - Re: N914KF has a new home (darinh) 10. 11:38 AM - Re: Re: Ethanol? (Clint Bazzill) 11. 01:40 PM - Re: STalled (Guy Buchanan) 12. 02:03 PM - Re: BACK IN THE AIR (Lynn Matteson) 13. 02:54 PM - Re: N914KF has a new home (Dan Billingsley) 14. 03:07 PM - Re: BACK IN THE AIR (Dacha) 15. 03:07 PM - Re: Ethanol? (Tom Jones) 16. 03:09 PM - Re: STalled (Tom Jones) 17. 04:21 PM - Re: Stalled (gary.algate@sandvik.com) 18. 06:42 PM - Re: Re: Ethanol? (Frank Miles) 19. 07:01 PM - Re: STalled (LarryM) 20. 07:15 PM - Re: Re: Ethanol? (K&MCozik) 21. 07:48 PM - Re: STalled (kitfoxmike) 22. 09:02 PM - Re: BACK IN THE AIR (steve shinabery) 23. 09:04 PM - Re: BACK IN THE AIR (steve shinabery) 24. 11:31 PM - Re: Ethanol? (Michel Verheughe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:55:34 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotary engine in a Kitfox? From: "WurlyBird" I have been doing some research on engines and came across Rotamax. Does anyone know of a Kitfox flying with one of these, or any plane for that matter? I am curious about burn rate, operation cost (including TBO), and any other useful information. Thanks. -------- Prospective Kitfox buyer Here for information on airframes and engines Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185836#185836 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:58:52 AM PST US From: Jim Gilliatt Subject: Kitfox-List: Prop for sale Hi All, A friend of mine, Oscar Calderon, has a new Ultra Prop, pusher, 54 , for sale. If interested, contact him at ocalderon1@cox.net . Jim Gilliatt S7 IO240 87.27% done ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:26 AM PST US From: Clint Bazzill Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol? What brand of fuel was it? Clint> From: kcozik@cablespeed.com> To: kitfox- list@matronics.com> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol?> Date: Sun, 1 Ju k@cablespeed.com>> > > Hi all,> This is perfect timing for this issue. Sinc e I began flying my kitfox last fall I have > used nothing but 100LL w/TCP. About 5 days ago my tanks were low so I put 10 gals of 92oct > premium aut o fuel from the local station. I flew the airplane about 45 mins with no > noticable diffrence except the temps seemed to be slightly higher than norm al. The > airplane sat on my beach since then and when I preflighted today I got a nasty brown slurry > when I sumped the tanks. It wasn't trace amoun ts, it was a couple ounces. When I took the > fuel off the top I dipped my finger in the brown fluid and rubbed it between my fingers, > sure enough i t was sticky....resin? I think so. I drained my tanks and will refill with > 100LL tomorrow. I'm not sure how other guys are using auto fuel with no s ign of resin? My > tanks are from late 2000 with no coating.> > Looks like Avgas for me. > Kevin C> Series 6-7> Rotax 914 turbo w/100LL> Czech floats> ===============> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:09 AM PST US From: jareds Subject: Kitfox-List: STalled The other day i was landing on the missouri river here in SD to fish and had never pulled the flap handle all the way up when taking off. Fortunately i had plenty of room but on a 80 degree day with thin air the left wing stalled and i nearly wrecked had i not aborted the landing. How does one know what "full flaps" are on the model IV and where is the full flap setting? ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:56 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: 914 Install From: "dcsfoto" Need photos of 914 install. looking at a 914 at runout time on my 912S David KF & and 3 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185878#185878 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:41 AM PST US From: kerrjohna@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: N914KF has a new home Darin, I had better come down to see that bad boy in person. John -------------- Original message -------------- From: "darinh" > > Just wanted to share my excitement with the group...over the weekend, I moved my > 7 to its new home at OGD. It is a 60' x 60' brand new hangar with an smooth as > glass (well almost but just enough roughness to not slip around) epoxy floor and > a huge hydro-swing door on the north and south ends. I will be sharing it with > two other planes...a Citabria and an RV4 but I am the only one there now. > > I also started the final assembly process! I can't wait for that first engine > start and first flight! Here is a picture of both wings and the tail on > together for the first time. > > The move went beautifully thanks to a couple friends and a giant 24' long x 102" > wide flatbed trailer. > > Lowell, I should be able to get to those louvers sometime soon. > > -------- > Darin Hawkes > Series 7 (Final Assembly) > 914 Turbo > Kaysville, Utah > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185829#185829 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscf2209_1024x768_174.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscf2225_1024x768_120.jpg > > > > > > >
Darin, I had better come down to see that bad boy in person.
 
John
 
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From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>

> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "darinh"
>
> Just wanted to share my excitement with the group...over the weekend, I moved my
> 7 to its new home at OGD. It is a 60' x 60' brand new hangar with an smooth as
> glass (well almost but just enough roughness to not slip around) epoxy floor and
> a huge hydro-swing door on the north and south ends. I will be sharing it with
> two other planes...a Citabria and an RV4 but I am the only one there now.
>
> I also started the final assembly process! I can't wait for that first engine
> start and first flight! Here is a picture of both wings and the tail on
> together for the first time.
>
> The move went beautifully thanks to a couple frien
________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:52:06 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: BACK IN THE AIR From: "n61kf" After a bit more work, and a lot more time than I had estimated, I have my Kitfox- 4-1200, N 61KF back in the air. I purchased her from the Insurance company on a bid about two years ago. It had sustained enough damage to the landing gear and fuselage from a hard landing, for them to total it. I replaced the tube gear with Grove gear, and repaired the fuselage, plus lots of other odds and ends, mostly just to satisfy myself. I had never flown or even ridden in a Kitfox before buying this one. I must say I am very pleased with how it performs. I am looking forward to making it to some gatherings this Summer and Fall. Maybe Steve will get his flyin at Grand Lake Saint Marys rescheduled soon. Im about 80 miles south of there at Red Stewart Airfield, near Waynesville Oh. I have been on the List during the rebuild process, and would like to thank every one for all the helpful info and entertainment! Keith Schneider Kitfox IV-1200 Rotax 912 ul Waynesville Ohio do not archive -------- Keith Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185882#185882 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kf1403_163.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:53 AM PST US From: K&MCozik Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol? Clint, It was supplied by a company called Scotland oil company. They supply gas to BP/Amoco, Marathon and a few local independents which is were I bought my supply. Kevin C Rotax 914 Series 6-7 Czech floats Laingsburg Michigan On Mon Jun 2 11:30 , Clint Bazzill sent: > > >What brand of fuel was it? Clint > >> From: kcozik@cablespeed.com >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol? >> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:15:35 -0400 >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> This is perfect timing for this issue. Since I began flying my kitfox last fall I have >> used nothing but 100LL w/TCP. About 5 days ago my tanks were low so I put 10 gals of 92oct >> premium auto fuel from the local station. I flew the airplane about 45 mins with no >> noticable diffrence except the temps seemed to be slightly higher than normal. The >> airplane sat on my beach since then and when I preflighted today I got a nasty brown slurry >> when I sumped the tanks. It wasn't trace amounts, it was a couple ounces. When I took the >> fuel off the top I dipped my finger in the brown fluid and rubbed it between my fingers, >> sure enough it was sticky....resin? I think so. I drained my tanks and will refill with >> 100LL tomorrow. I'm not sure how other guys are using auto fuel with no sign of resin? My >> tanks are from late 2000 with no coating. >> >> Looks like Avgas for me. >> Kevin C >> Series 6-7 >> Rotax 914 turbo w/100LL >> Czech floats >> Laingsburg MI >> >> >> >> >> > >> &g=========== >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:27:56 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: N914KF has a new home From: "darinh" Yes, I agree. Hangar is N999 on the south side. I will be spending quite a bit of time there (especially in the evenings) for the next couple months. -------- Darin Hawkes Series 7 (Final Assembly) 914 Turbo Kaysville, Utah Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185895#185895 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:38:16 AM PST US From: Clint Bazzill Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol? That is very interesting. I use auto fuel all the time in my 912ULS. I on ly use Hi Test Chevron. Am careful at not using anything else except 100 L L.. Do you know if it was the tank or reaction to fuel line or ?? clint> From: kcozik@cablespeed.com> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> Subject: RE: Ki tfox-List: Re: Ethanol?> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:00:50 -0400> > --> Kitfox -List message posted by: K&MCozik > > > Clint,> It w as supplied by a company called Scotland oil company. They supply gas to > BP/Amoco, Marathon and a few local independents which is were I bought my s upply.> Kevin C> Rotax 914> Series 6-7> Czech floats> Laingsburg Michigan> > On Mon Jun 2 11:30 , Clint Bazzill sent:> > > > >> >> >> >> >What brand of fuel was it? Clint> >> >> From: kcozik@cables peed.com> >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> >> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re : Ethanol?> >> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:15:35 -0400> >> > >> --> Kitfox-Lis t message posted by: K&MCozik > >> > >> > >> Hi all, > >> This is perfect timing for this issue. Since I began flying my kitfox last fall > I have > >> used nothing but 100LL w/TCP. About 5 days ago my t anks were low so I put 10 > gals of 92oct > >> premium auto fuel from the l ocal station. I flew the airplane about 45 mins with > no > >> noticable di ffrence except the temps seemed to be slightly higher than normal. > The > >> airplane sat on my beach since then and when I preflighted today I got a nasty > brown slurry > >> when I sumped the tanks. It wasn't trace amounts , it was a couple ounces. When I > took the > >> fuel off the top I dipped my finger in the brown fluid and rubbed it between my > fingers, > >> sure enough it was sticky....resin? I think so. I drained my tanks and will > re fill with > >> 100LL tomorrow. I'm not sure how other guys are using auto f uel with no sign of > resin? My > >> tanks are from late 2000 with no coati ng.> >> > >> Looks like Avgas for me. > >> Kevin C> >> Series 6-7> >> Rotax 914 turbo w/100LL> >> Czech floats> >> Laingsburg MI> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> &g============> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ====> > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:40:38 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: STalled At 08:40 AM 6/2/2008, you wrote: >How does one know what "full flaps" are on the model IV and where is >the full flap setting? I set mine so maximum flap just allows full aileron travel both ways. With this setting I've never had a premature stall. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:03:27 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: BACK IN THE AIR Speaking of Grand Lake, I'm going to fly in there on Wednesday, weather willing, and try to hitch a ride down to Eldora Speedway for the races there that night. No previous planning, no ticket, no renting a car...just get up in the morning and go. What the hell, you're only young once, and they can't jail you for trying to do something on the spur of the moment. Lynn do not archive On Jun 2, 2008, at 12:49 PM, n61kf wrote: > > After a bit more work, and a lot more time than I had estimated, I > have my Kitfox- 4-1200, N 61KF back in the air. I purchased her > from the Insurance company on a bid about two years ago. It had > sustained enough damage to the landing gear and fuselage from a > hard landing, for them to total it. I replaced the tube gear with > Grove gear, and repaired the fuselage, plus lots of other odds and > ends, mostly just to satisfy myself. > I had never flown or even ridden in a Kitfox before buying this > one. I must say I am very pleased with how it performs. > I am looking forward to making it to some gatherings this Summer > and Fall. Maybe Steve will get his flyin at Grand Lake Saint Marys > rescheduled soon. Im about 80 miles south of there at Red Stewart > Airfield, near Waynesville Oh. I have been on the List during the > rebuild process, and would like to thank every one for all the > helpful info and entertainment! > > Keith Schneider > Kitfox IV-1200 > Rotax 912 ul > Waynesville Ohio > > do not archive > > -------- > Keith > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185882#185882 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/kf1403_163.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:54:56 PM PST US From: Dan Billingsley Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: N914KF has a new home Darin, Nice job on the paint and congratulations on the progress. Dan B Mesa darinh wrote: Just wanted to share my excitement with the group...over the weekend, I moved my 7 to its new home at OGD. It is a 60' x 60' brand new hangar with an smooth as glass (well almost but just enough roughness to not slip around) epoxy floor and a huge hydro-swing door on the north and south ends. I will be sharing it with two other planes...a Citabria and an RV4 but I am the only one there now. I also started the final assembly process! I can't wait for that first engine start and first flight! Here is a picture of both wings and the tail on together for the first time. The move went beautifully thanks to a couple friends and a giant 24' long x 102" wide flatbed trailer. Lowell, I should be able to get to those louvers sometime soon. -------- Darin Hawkes Series 7 (Final Assembly) 914 Turbo Kaysville, Utah Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185829#185829 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscf2209_1024x768_174.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscf2225_1024x768_120.jpg ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:07:24 PM PST US From: "Dacha" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: BACK IN THE AIR Lynn, I love your attitude. If you are ever down Wheatland,Mo. way for the Lucas Oil track, the diamond of dirt tracks, I will put you up and take you to the races. LeRoy Kitfox 5 Not flown enough. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:07:32 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol? From: "Tom Jones" > About 5 days ago my tanks were low so I put 10 gals of 92oct > premium auto fuel from the local station. Kevin, if you still have that 92 oct fuel on hand could you test it for alcohol and let us know for sure if it does contain it? I have been using 92 oct auto fuel for the past year and have had no problems. My wing tank is from 1994 and has the white kreme sloshing inside. I do test my fuel and have not found any alcohol. last fill up was two days ago. I use Chevron and 76. I am in Ellensburg WA. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185932#185932 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:12 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: STalled From: "Tom Jones" I put a stop on my flap handle at 20 degrees. I used an angle finder on the flaperon to find the 20 degree setting. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185933#185933 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:21:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Stalled From: gary.algate@sandvik.com I carried out some flap tests a few years ago and gradually increased the flap setting on approach from nil to full to see effects. At full flap setting ie) handle up as far as it would go I didn't have any problems with a premature stall but found that when I touched down I couldn't get the tail top come down and I bounced along on the main gear a few times with the tail high in the air. The aileron movement was a bit restricted with the flaps full down. Is their any chance that with full flaps you lifted off early and then stalled the wing once you were out of ground effect? I have used full flaps on floats and wheels Take off and landing with no real problems however when I am landing I lift the flaps just before touch down on a short field approach - serves two purposes as it gives you better elevator authority once you lift the flaps and it also dumps lift so that you can land really short. Gary Gary Algate Classic 4 Jab 2200 Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655 This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may arise as a result of the e-mail transmission. jareds Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com 03/06/2008 01:24 AM Please respond to kitfox-list@matronics.com To kitfox-list@matronics.com cc Subject Kitfox-List: STalled The other day i was landing on the missouri river here in SD to fish and had never pulled the flap handle all the way up when taking off. Fortunately i had plenty of room but on a 80 degree day with thin air the left wing stalled and i nearly wrecked had i not aborted the landing. How does one know what "full flaps" are on the model IV and where is the full flap setting? ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:27 PM PST US From: "Frank Miles" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol? Tom, No doubt the fuel that you have been burning did not have ethanol in it however I am told that all Washington fueling stations must have ethanol blend in their tanks by July 1. We have no gas stations in our area now that do not have ethanol in ALL of their fuels. Now what? Some minor exceptions are the smaller stations that have not accepted deliveries in the last few weeks but that will change with their next shipments. I seem to recall that when the State of Washington was haggling over this piece of legislation that some fuel was to be made available without ethanol but all of the distributors that I have talked with seem to be oblivious to anything about this. I think that it is because they do not want the hassle of carrying another grade of fuel and most are not set up with enough tanks and pumps to handle it. Frank Miles Clarkston, Wash. K-III w/582 -----Originl Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 3:05 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol? > About 5 days ago my tanks were low so I put 10 gals of 92oct > premium auto fuel from the local station. Kevin, if you still have that 92 oct fuel on hand could you test it for alcohol and let us know for sure if it does contain it? I have been using 92 oct auto fuel for the past year and have had no problems. My wing tank is from 1994 and has the white kreme sloshing inside. I do test my fuel and have not found any alcohol. last fill up was two days ago. I use Chevron and 76. I am in Ellensburg WA. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185932#185932 Checked by AVG. 7:12 AM ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:01:48 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: STalled From: "LarryM" I also. [/quote] I set mine so maximum flap just allows full aileron travel both ways. With this setting I've never had a premature stall. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.[/quote] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185973#185973 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:15:44 PM PST US From: K&MCozik Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol? Clint It was the tank only. I flew the day the fuel was added and then the plane sat for a few days. The filters looked clear, the only bad stuff was coming out of the tank drain. Tom I did not have to test it, the station owner confirmed it had "at least" 6% and as much as 10%. My plastic sump tool seemed soft from the fuel. By the reaction of the station owner and the damage to the tank I'm wondering if something is going on here and that maybe this wasn't normal premium auto fuel but a mixture stronger than 10%. Is there a simple way to test the level? Kevin C Series 6-7 Rotax 914 Turbo Czech floats Laingsburg MI On Mon Jun 2 14:35 , Clint Bazzill sent: > > >That is very interesting. I use auto fuel all the time in my 912ULS. I only use Hi Test Chevron. Am careful at not using anything else except 100 LL.. Do you know if it was the tank or reaction to fuel line or ?? clint ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:20 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: STalled From: "kitfoxmike" At this point I'm going to have to disagree that the flap angle is what caused you to stall. I've taken off with full flaps and done correctly the airplane sort of just shoots up in the air and feels like it's level. You have to resist the urge to pull back on the stick, just let it lift off on its own, you might even have to push forward on the stick. the key here is NOT to lift off with a bunch of up angle on the wings, that will stall you. If you are in a float plane and want to get off sooner, you will need to cross control and lift one of the floats out of the water as well as keeping in ground effect until air speed allows for lifting off. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185986#185986 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:02:31 PM PST US From: steve shinabery Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: BACK IN THE AIR Lynn Matteson wrote: > > Speaking of Grand Lake, I'm going to fly in there on Wednesday, > weather willing, and try to hitch a ride down to Eldora Speedway for > the races there that night. No previous planning, no ticket, no > renting a car...just get up in the morning and go. What the hell, > you're only young once, and they can't jail you for trying to do > something on the spur of the moment. > > Lynn > do not archive > On Jun 2, 2008, at 12:49 PM, n61kf wrote: > >> >> After a bit more work, and a lot more time than I had estimated, I >> have my Kitfox- 4-1200, N 61KF back in the air. I purchased her from >> the Insurance company on a bid about two years ago. It had sustained >> enough damage to the landing gear and fuselage from a hard landing, >> for them to total it. I replaced the tube gear with Grove gear, and >> repaired the fuselage, plus lots of other odds and ends, mostly just >> to satisfy myself. >> I had never flown or even ridden in a Kitfox before buying this one. >> I must say I am very pleased with how it performs. >> I am looking forward to making it to some gatherings this Summer and >> Fall. Maybe Steve will get his flyin at Grand Lake Saint Marys >> rescheduled soon. Im about 80 miles south of there at Red Stewart >> Airfield, near Waynesville Oh. I have been on the List during the >> rebuild process, and would like to thank every one for all the >> helpful info and entertainment! >> >> Keith Schneider >> Kitfox IV-1200 >> Rotax 912 ul >> Waynesville Ohio >> >> do not archive >> >> -------- >> Keith >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185882#185882 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/kf1403_163.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Lynn,if you come down to Lake Field airport Wed for the race we have a car there that you can use.a crew car.the keys are on the back of the desk.all you have to do is sign for it..you may want to call first airport 419-268-2190 and talk to Scott.tell him that you know me..may be if I am not busey to call my cell 419-305-5587 and I can come to the airport and meet you there...Eldora Speed Way.is app less than 10 miles down st rt 127 to a little town of North Star,turn left head west,you can not miss it..at the airport you may even see Toney's jet there for the race..Steve Shinabery N554KF KF2 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:04:28 PM PST US From: steve shinabery Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: BACK IN THE AIR Lynn Matteson wrote: > > Speaking of Grand Lake, I'm going to fly in there on Wednesday, > weather willing, and try to hitch a ride down to Eldora Speedway for > the races there that night. No previous planning, no ticket, no > renting a car...just get up in the morning and go. What the hell, > you're only young once, and they can't jail you for trying to do > something on the spur of the moment. > > Lynn > do not archive > On Jun 2, 2008, at 12:49 PM, n61kf wrote: > >> >> After a bit more work, and a lot more time than I had estimated, I >> have my Kitfox- 4-1200, N 61KF back in the air. I purchased her from >> the Insurance company on a bid about two years ago. It had sustained >> enough damage to the landing gear and fuselage from a hard landing, >> for them to total it. I replaced the tube gear with Grove gear, and >> repaired the fuselage, plus lots of other odds and ends, mostly just >> to satisfy myself. >> I had never flown or even ridden in a Kitfox before buying this one. >> I must say I am very pleased with how it performs. >> I am looking forward to making it to some gatherings this Summer and >> Fall. Maybe Steve will get his flyin at Grand Lake Saint Marys >> rescheduled soon. Im about 80 miles south of there at Red Stewart >> Airfield, near Waynesville Oh. I have been on the List during the >> rebuild process, and would like to thank every one for all the >> helpful info and entertainment! >> >> Keith Schneider >> Kitfox IV-1200 >> Rotax 912 ul >> Waynesville Ohio >> >> do not archive >> >> -------- >> Keith >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185882#185882 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/kf1403_163.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Keith what is you phone no??Steve Shinabery N554KF KF2 cell ph 419-305-5587 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 11:31:31 PM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol? > From: K&MCozik [kcozik@cablespeed.com] > By the reaction of > the station owner and the damage to the tank I'm wondering if something is going > on ... what I am wondering is what they have in their tanks at the station. Because, as I understand it, it is also fiberglass tanks. Norway will introduce 5% ethanol in Mogas later this year. I asked Shell what they intended to do to protect their own underground tank and ... no one could answer. Cheers, Michel Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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