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1. 07:56 AM - Re: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message) (Lynn Matteson)
2. 08:02 AM - Re: Re: STalled (jareds)
3. 08:15 AM - Re: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message) (fox5flyer)
4. 08:33 AM - Re: Re: STalled (Michael Gibbs)
5. 09:42 AM - Slow flying... (Lynn Matteson)
6. 10:22 AM - Re: Slow flying... (n85ae)
7. 11:27 AM - Re: Slow flying... (wingnut)
8. 11:59 AM - Re: Re: Slow flying... (Lynn Matteson)
9. 12:01 PM - Re: Slow flying... (W Duke)
10. 12:14 PM - Re: Re: Slow flying... ()
11. 12:19 PM - Re: Slow flying... (Michel Verheughe)
12. 02:14 PM - Re: STalled (dave)
13. 02:17 PM - Re: Slow flying... (dave)
14. 02:18 PM - Re: Slow flying... (Lynn Matteson)
15. 02:23 PM - Re: Re: Slow flying... (Lynn Matteson)
16. 02:39 PM - Re: Re: Slow flying... (Lynn Matteson)
17. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: Slow flying... (skyflyte@comcast.net)
18. 03:39 PM - Re: Re: Slow flying... (John W. Hart)
19. 03:40 PM - Re: Slow flying... (Guy Buchanan)
20. 04:16 PM - Re: Re: Slow flying... (Ted Palamarek)
21. 04:20 PM - Re: Slow flying... (SkySteve)
22. 06:10 PM - Redoing Panel IV (frank)
23. 08:36 PM - removing plastic cover on flaperons (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
24. 08:39 PM - Tank coatings (A H)
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message) |
Just for my curiosity, Deke, is there only one plug per cylinder on
the EA81?
Lynn
do not archive
On Jun 5, 2008, at 9:38 PM, fox5flyer wrote:
> Barrie, yes the Ellison having a very small needle and seat can
> sometimes leak gas into the intake manifold that can migrate down
> into the engine oil pan. The manual specifically states to use the
> fuel shut off valve to kill the engine and leave it off until next
> engine start.
> It's possible that's what happened in your case.
> If you have the normally aspirated EA81, those compression numbers
> seem a bit low. Try a complete oil change, warm the engine up to
> at least 150 degrees, shut it down, then do another compression
> check using a good quality tester. Ensure that ignitions are off,
> all plugs removed, and use wide open throttle with at least ten
> prop blades per cylinder. Let us know what numbers you get.
> Deke Morisse
> Mikado Michigan
> S5/Subaru/CAP 375+ TT
> "The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but
> progress."
> - Joseph Joubert
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Barrie Hussey
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:22 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message)
>
> Plane had TT 329hr. A friend coached me on the tailwheel and other
> traits of the Kitfox and I finished the year with 20 hours total.
> The previous owner stated he checked the compression in Jan 07
> cold at 142,151,140 and 132. There was no work done on the plane
> from time of purchase until I drained the oil Tuesday past. I
> removed the filter today and when checking it the oil seemed to
> have a different smell and was very thin. Seems like gas may have
> got into it. I was not told to shut the fuel supply off and it was
> on until it was noted when going through the manual during the
> winter. Did anyone ever hear of the Ellison
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At this point i am leaning towards the fact that originally skystar
apparently had a sticker for flaperon handle that indicated an upper limit.
Full up on handle is just too far on a take off.
But a comment in one of the responses about the flaperons being "out of
rig" made me wonder.
If a flaperon is out of rig, wouldnt the plane drift or have a tendancy
to tip if they were not set evenly?
How about the twist of the wing?
Comments welcome.
LarryM wrote:
>
>I also.
>
>[/quote]
>I set mine so maximum flap just allows full aileron travel both ways.
>With this setting I've never had a premature stall.
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>Guy Buchanan
>San Diego, CA
>K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.[/quote]
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message) |
Yes. Dual ignition, single plug.
Deke
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message)
>
> Just for my curiosity, Deke, is there only one plug per cylinder on
> the EA81?
> Lynn
> do not archive
> On Jun 5, 2008, at 9:38 PM, fox5flyer wrote:
>
>> Barrie, yes the Ellison having a very small needle and seat can
>> sometimes leak gas into the intake manifold that can migrate down
>> into the engine oil pan. The manual specifically states to use the
>> fuel shut off valve to kill the engine and leave it off until next
>> engine start.
>> It's possible that's what happened in your case.
>> If you have the normally aspirated EA81, those compression numbers
>> seem a bit low. Try a complete oil change, warm the engine up to
>> at least 150 degrees, shut it down, then do another compression
>> check using a good quality tester. Ensure that ignitions are off,
>> all plugs removed, and use wide open throttle with at least ten
>> prop blades per cylinder. Let us know what numbers you get.
>> Deke Morisse
>> Mikado Michigan
>> S5/Subaru/CAP 375+ TT
>> "The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but
>> progress."
>> - Joseph Joubert
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Barrie Hussey
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:22 PM
>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message)
>>
>> Plane had TT 329hr. A friend coached me on the tailwheel and other
>> traits of the Kitfox and I finished the year with 20 hours total.
>> The previous owner stated he checked the compression in Jan 07
>> cold at 142,151,140 and 132. There was no work done on the plane
>> from time of purchase until I drained the oil Tuesday past. I
>> removed the filter today and when checking it the oil seemed to
>> have a different smell and was very thin. Seems like gas may have
>> got into it. I was not told to shut the fuel supply off and it was
>> on until it was noted when going through the manual during the
>> winter. Did anyone ever hear of the Ellison
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The construction manual details the procedure for rigging proper
flaperon travel. I have seen quite a few Kitfoxes that were not set
per the instructions or were done by other seat-of-the-pants methods.
You should get the instructions out and set them properly.
After I started flying mine I ended up making several adjustments to
the lift strut rod ends to get the wing twist right, independent of
the flaperon rigging.
Mike G.
N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
Phoenix, AZ
>At this point i am leaning towards the fact that originally skystar
>apparently had a sticker for flaperon handle that indicated an upper
>limit.
>Full up on handle is just too far on a take off.
>But a comment in one of the responses about the flaperons being "out
>of rig" made me wonder.
>If a flaperon is out of rig, wouldnt the plane drift or have a
>tendancy to tip if they were not set evenly?
>How about the twist of the wing?
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I just flew my personal best (or is that worst?) slow ground speed,
covering the ground at an amazing 9 mph. The wind was about 220 @ 7,
according to the local (JXN) ATIS, but up at 3000' MSL, it was about
37kt, according to Ft. Wayne, IN "winds aloft" reports. At any rate,
I was being blown at 162mph GPS groundspeed (108mph airspeed) toward
the east, when I decided to turn back and see how slow I could fly
groundspeed into the wind. I was at 3000 MSL, heading about 250, and
I started slowing the plane down. I kept the same 3000 altitude until
I got the groundspeed down to 20 mph, then I started to lose
elevation....about 125fpm on the VSI. I kept throttling back until it
got down to 9mph groundspeed, 55mph airspeed, and I quit playing
games when I got down to 2700' MSL. This was with no flaps, and I
think the rpm was about 1900 at that point...not paying too much
attention to that detail.
I've heard about people flying backwards, and I was pretty close to
that, but chickened out before I got over my head. Has anybody slowed
their Kitfox to a negative groundspeed? I'm not trying to claim any
records, but it would be informative to know if anybody has slowed
more than this, and what problems, if any, should one look out for
doing this.
Lynn
Model IV Speedster, 2200 Jabiru with 520+ hours
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| Subject: | Re: Slow flying... |
I once bounced on takeoff because my plane got airborne so fast that
the mains were off before I realized it, and I pushed the stick forward
a bit to lift the tail and the already flying mains hit the ground. It was
about a 20KT headwind straight down the runway.
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Slow flying... |
> I've heard about people flying backwards, and I was pretty close to
> that, but chickened out before I got over my head. Has anybody slowed
> their Kitfox to a negative groundspeed? I'm not trying to claim any
> records, but it would be informative to know if anybody has slowed
> more than this, and what problems, if any, should one look out for
> doing this.
I've never flown backwards but I've gotten close to zero with no loss in altitude.
I was in the middle of a long cross country at 8000ft when I noticed my ground
speed was pushing 150. I just did a 180 and trimmed for level flight at 50mph.
I don't see why you'd have to look out for anything in particular though.
You could be flying backwards at 100mph but as long as there's no turbulence
and your airspeed is above stall then you're OK right?
--------
Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)
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| Subject: | Re: Slow flying... |
It seems that way to me, Luis.
Lynn
On Jun 6, 2008, at 2:24 PM, wingnut wrote:
> You could be flying backwards at 100mph but as long as there's no
> turbulence and your airspeed is above stall then you're OK right?
>
> --------
> Luis Rodriguez
> Model IV 1200
> Rotax 912UL
> Flying Weekly
> Laurens, SC (34A)
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slow flying... |
I did. Smooth air but strong wind at about 3500 ft. Flaps out j
ust to see how slow it would go. Very near stall so I was concen
trating on airspeed, altitude, and groundspeed. The groundspeed
started to go up and my passenger said "hey we're going backwards".
Maxwell Duke
S6/TD/IO240
Dublin, GA
--- On Fri, 6/6/08, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Slow flying...
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
;
I just flew my personal best (or is that worst?) slow ground speed,
covering the ground at an amazing 9 mph. The wind was about 220=B0 @ 7,
according to the local (JXN) ATIS, but up at 3000' MSL, it was about
37kt, according to Ft. Wayne, IN "winds aloft" reports. At any rate,
I was being blown at 162mph GPS groundspeed (108mph airspeed) toward
the east, when I decided to turn back and see how slow I could fly
groundspeed into the wind. I was at 3000 MSL, heading about 250=B0, and
I started slowing the plane down. I kept the same 3000 altitude until
I got the groundspeed down to 20 mph, then I started to lose
elevation....about 125fpm on the VSI. I kept throttling back until it
got down to 9mph groundspeed, 55mph airspeed, and I quit playing
games when I got down to 2700' MSL. This was with no flaps, and I
think the rpm was about 1900 at that point...not paying too much
attention to that detail.
I've heard about people flying backwards, and I was pretty close to
that, but chickened out before I got over my head. Has anybody slowed
their Kitfox to a negative groundspeed? I'm not trying to claim any
records, but it would be informative to know if anybody has slowed
more than this, and what problems, if any, should one look out for
doing this.
Lynn
Model IV Speedster, 2200 Jabiru with 520+ hours
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| Subject: | Re: Slow flying... |
Years ago there was an article (I think it was in Sport Aviation... can't be sure)
about a guy who flew backwards down the runway at a local airshow at about
10 kts... it was thought at the time the article was written to be the only guy
to have accomplished the feat (at least at a public event).
> I've heard about people flying backwards, and I was pretty close to
> that, but chickened out before I got over my head. Has anybody slowed
> their Kitfox to a negative groundspeed? I'm not trying to claim any
> records, but it would be informative to know if anybody has slowed
> more than this, and what problems, if any, should one look out for
> doing this.
<<I've never flown backwards but I've gotten close to zero with no ...>>
John Sandt, Kitfox 7 project, Ridgecrest, CA
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| Subject: | RE: Slow flying... |
> From: Lynn Matteson [lynnmatt@jps.net]
> I've heard about people flying backwards
Not a Kitfox, Lynn, but in our club, a Rans S5 took off from runway 36 and did
a traffic pattern without changing heading! At about 800 ft, it went backward
and landed on the same runway with the nose still pointing to the north.
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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> Full up on handle is just too far on a take off.
Says who? I can show you a full flap take off anytime that will get your weight
from gear/floats to wings quicker that without full flaps. Mine go 33 Degrees
down , some I understand set a limit to only 20 degrees down. The extra few
degrees will make a huge difference. ASk any bushpilot or other experienced
pilot he will tell you the same thing.
You wing stalled from too high of an angle off attack, sure there is the small
amounts thast can be added up from washout, flapperon rigging etc but correct
me please , who stalled the airplane ? The pilot or the airpane ? PIC is
in charge ?
Dave
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Slow flying... |
> I got over my head. Has anybody slowed
> their Kitfox to a negative groundspeed
Yes I have flown my Kitfox backwards. You GPS will not show a negative number
though. You have to look at the ground in relatation to your strut or your landing
gear to see it . Next Time I will take a movie for you.
winds here over 20 knots on ground today maybe higher up higher --maybe I will
try to break away today for a backwards flight aloft ?
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Slow flying... |
Was the "backwards flying" just an observation, or did you see a
reading that was negative? I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious if
your GPS or whatever instrument would show a negative speed.
Lynn
On Jun 6, 2008, at 2:59 PM, W Duke wrote:
> I did. Smooth air but strong wind at about 3500 ft. Flaps out
> just to see how slow it would go. Very near stall so I was
> concentrating on airspeed, altitude, and groundspeed. The
> groundspeed started to go up and my passenger said "hey we're going
> backwards".
>
> Maxwell Duke
> S6/TD/IO240
> Dublin, GA
>
> --- On Fri, 6/6/08, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
> From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Slow flying...
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 12:39 PM
>
> I just flew my personal best (or is that worst?) slow ground speed,
> covering the ground at an amazing 9 mph. The wind was about 220 @
> 7, according to the local (JXN) ATIS, but up at 3000' MSL, it was
> about 37kt, according to Ft. Wayne, IN "winds aloft" reports. At
> any rate, I was being blown at 162mph GPS groundspeed (108mph
> airspeed) toward the east, when I decided to turn back and see how
> slow I could fly groundspeed into the wind. I was at 3000 MSL,
> heading about 250, and I started slowing the plane down. I kept
> the same 3000 altitude until I got the groundspeed down to 20 mph,
> then I started to lose elevation....about 125fpm on the VSI. I kept
> throttling back until it got down to 9mph groundspeed, 55mph
> airspeed, and I quit playing games when I got down to 2700' MSL.
> This was with no flaps, and I think the rpm was about 1900 at that
> point...not paying too much attention to that detail. I've heard
> about people flying backwards, and I was pretty close to that, but
> chickened out before I got over my head. Has anybody slowed their
> Kitfox to a negative groundspeed? I'm not trying to claim any
> records, but it would be informative to know if anybody has slowed
> more than this, and what problems, if any, should one look out for
> doing this. Lynn Model IV Speedster, 2200 Jabiru with 520+ hours
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Slow flying... |
Ok, Michel....that's pretty dramatic proof of backwards flying. I had
a friend say he took off on a runway, lifted up a bit, and found
himself looking at the spot he departed from....the start of the
runway. Thanks...
Lynn
On Jun 6, 2008, at 3:15 PM, Michel Verheughe wrote:
>> From: Lynn Matteson [lynnmatt@jps.net]
>> I've heard about people flying backwards
>
> Not a Kitfox, Lynn, but in our club, a Rans S5 took off from runway
> 36 and did a traffic pattern without changing heading! At about 800
> ft, it went backward and landed on the same runway with the nose
> still pointing to the north.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel Verheughe
> Norway
> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
> Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Slow flying... |
How did I just KNOW that you'd have done it, Dave : )
On Jun 6, 2008, at 5:14 PM, dave wrote:
>
>
>> I got over my head. Has anybody slowed
>> their Kitfox to a negative groundspeed
>
>
> Yes I have flown my Kitfox backwards. You GPS will not show a
> negative number though. You have to look at the ground in
> relatation to your strut or your landing gear to see it . Next
> Time I will take a movie for you.
>
> winds here over 20 knots on ground today maybe higher up higher --
> maybe I will try to break away today for a backwards flight aloft ?
>
> --------
> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
> Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
> http://www.cfisher.com/
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186576#186576
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| Subject: | Re: Slow flying... |
I have flown backwards too! I took off, flew streight ahead for about 10 minutes,
decended and landed on the departure end of the runway I departed! Not in
my Kitfox, but a weight shift Quicksilver in the early days of ultralighting.
Mike
Model II N490MC
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> How did I just KNOW that you'd have done it, Dave : )
>
> On Jun 6, 2008, at 5:14 PM, dave wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >> I got over my head. Has anybody slowed
> >> their Kitfox to a negative groundspeed
> >
> >
> > Yes I have flown my Kitfox backwards. You GPS will not show a
> > negative number though. You have to look at the ground in
> > relatation to your strut or your landing gear to see it . Next
> > Time I will take a movie for you.
> >
> > winds here over 20 knots on ground today maybe higher up higher --
> > maybe I will try to break away today for a backwards flight aloft ?
> >
> > --------
> > Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
> > Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
> > http://www.cfisher.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186576#186576
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<DIV>I have flown backwards too! I took off, flew streight ahead for about 10 minutes,
decended and landed on the departure end of the runway I departed!
Not in my Kitfox, but a weight shift Quicksilver in the early days of ultralighting.</DIV>
<DIV>Mike</DIV>
<DIV>Model II N490MC</DIV>
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solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: Lynn Matteson
<lynnmatt@jps.net> <BR><BR>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by:
Lynn Matteson <LYNNMATT@JPS.NET><BR>> <BR>> How did I just KNOW that you'd
have done it, Dave : ) <BR>> <BR>> On Jun 6, 2008, at 5:14 PM, dave wrote:
<BR>> <BR>> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dave" <DAVE@CFISHER.COM><BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> >> I got over my head.
Has anybody slowed <BR>> >> their Kitfox to a negative groundspeed
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Yes I have flown my Kitfox backwards.
You GPS will not show a <BR>> > negative number though. You have to look
at the ground in <BR>> > relatation to your strut or your landing gear
to see it . Next <BR>> > Time I will take a movie for you. <BR>> >
<BR>> > winds here over 20 knots on ground t
oday m
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| Subject: | Re: Slow flying... |
Rearward flight, or flying backwards, is no chore at all. Ask any helicopter pilot.
John Hart
KF IV
Wilburton, OK
Retired US Army Helicopter pilot
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of josandt@verizon.net
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Slow flying...
Years ago there was an article (I think it was in Sport Aviation... can't be sure)
about a guy who flew backwards down the runway at a local airshow at about
10 kts... it was thought at the time the article was written to be the only guy
to have accomplished the feat (at least at a public event).
> I've heard about people flying backwards, and I was pretty close to
> that, but chickened out before I got over my head. Has anybody slowed
> their Kitfox to a negative groundspeed? I'm not trying to claim any
> records, but it would be informative to know if anybody has slowed
> more than this, and what problems, if any, should one look out for
> doing this.
<<I've never flown backwards but I've gotten close to zero with no ...>>
John Sandt, Kitfox 7 project, Ridgecrest, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Slow flying... |
At 09:39 AM 6/6/2008, you wrote:
>I'm not trying to claim any
>records, but it would be informative to know if anybody has slowed
>more than this, and what problems, if any, should one look out for
>doing this.
Well. . . landing will be a little tricky. ;-)
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Slow flying... |
Dave
You are quite right the GPS will not register backwards --- but all you have
to do is look at it and it will tell you that you have now turned 180
degrees and going at some speed ""Backwards"" As you accelerate from
backwards it will again swing towards you heading. Nuf said.
Ted
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: June 6, 2008 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Slow flying...
How did I just KNOW that you'd have done it, Dave : )
On Jun 6, 2008, at 5:14 PM, dave wrote:
>
>
>> I got over my head. Has anybody slowed
>> their Kitfox to a negative groundspeed
>
>
> Yes I have flown my Kitfox backwards. You GPS will not show a
> negative number though. You have to look at the ground in
> relatation to your strut or your landing gear to see it . Next
> Time I will take a movie for you.
>
> winds here over 20 knots on ground today maybe higher up higher --
> maybe I will try to break away today for a backwards flight aloft ?
>
> --------
> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
> Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
> http://www.cfisher.com/
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186576#186576
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slow flying... |
Here's a Husky flying backwards.
http://www.youtube.com/v/c99ZHZw97rU&hl
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Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox I-IV 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertable Nosewheel & Tailwheel
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186596#186596
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| Subject: | Redoing Panel IV |
Hello fellow KFr's. I've had the pleasure of reading your very helpful
posts
over the past year but this is the first time I have actively
participated
in the forum. By way of introduction my name is Frank Gallagher and I
reside
in Phoenix. I am the proud owner (not builder) of a Classic IV 93CM.
I had been away from flying for about seven years and began again last
year.
I have been very fortunate in meeting some truly wonderful people over
the
past year who have helped me get KitFox oriented and who have always
been
kind and patient when responding to my questions about the KF and the
Rotax
912. I am currently in the process of adding some new color and decals
to
93CM and will submit some before and after pictures for your kind
comments.
I am also redoing my panel and have removed most all of my avionics and
instrumentation and would like to offer all of them for $800 & shipping
(firm) to anyone who might need them for their project. I don't want to
piece them out so will sell all as one lot. They were all working prior
to
my removing them. They are as follows:
Narco AT150 TSO Txpdr with tray (encoder not included), Terra 760D Com
with
tray, Radair 200 Nav receiver with tray, Radair VOR/Localizer
indicator,
Altimeter (Inst & Flight Research Inc.), ASI KitFox to 100mph (Aerocraft
Co.), Tachometer, Westech quad gauge with Oil T-Oil P-Wtr Temp-EGT
(senders
not included), Slip/Skid Indicator, Hobbs Meter. The Tach and Westech
will
be removed next week. If you're interested please contact me via my
email at
fgsynergy@qwest.net. Thanks and have a great weekend.
Frank Gallagher
Phoenix
93CM
fgsynergy@qwest.net
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| Subject: | removing plastic cover on flaperons |
Well today I finally got that blasted stuff off!!! I think what bakes it o
n is probably light. one side was much worse than the other on both flaper
ons. I think I tried just about everything to loosen it and this is what I
found really worked. I read your post Lynn about the paint stripper so I
tried it. I bought a can of Klean-Strip KS-3 Premium Stripper, it comes in
a copper colored can. Put it on fairly thick and then covered it with som
e plastic to keep it from drying out. Left it for an hour or more dependin
g on what side I was working on. On the easier side, it would come off in
big sheets, on the bad side, I scrapped it with a piece of wood and the wor
st bits I used my fingernails. I tried some of the stripper on a bit of fo
am from the strut fairing and it didn't seem to hurt that foam at all so I
was a bit less worried about the foam in the flaperons. When I was done, I
washed the flaperons with soap and water and then rinsed them real well.
Bare aluminum never looked so nice!! Hope this is a help to others, it sur
e worked for me. Jim Chuk Avids Kitfox 4 Mn
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Has anyone had success with any of these coatings:
KBS Gold Standard Tank Sealer
PRC-DeSoto (PPG) IFT HS coating- High Solids 2 part chemically cured polyur
eathane tank coating
Caswell Phenol Novolac Epoxy Gas Tank Sealer
POR-15 Tank Sealer
Bridgeport Armor Glass 27P Epoxy Lining -What underground fiberglass storag
e tanks are being coated with to tolerate the alcohol in the fuel.
My fuel tanks were "topped" incorrectly. Basically, with the washout the r
ight tank fits in the left wing, but the fittings/fuel caps are on the wron
g side, etc. I have new filler flanges and caps and will patch and redrill
/tap for the fuel fittings, but figured while I am in there I will make sur
e all is well inside.
Andy
Series 5, 0-200
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