Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Mon 06/09/08


Total Messages Posted: 22



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     1. 04:03 AM - Wheel Pants (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
     2. 05:17 AM - Re: Re: STalled (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
     3. 06:20 AM - Re: STalled (Michel Verheughe)
     4. 08:36 AM - Re: Re: application of vg (Guy Buchanan)
     5. 09:11 AM - Re: STalled (kitfoxmike)
     6. 10:06 AM - Re: Re: STalled (Noel Loveys)
     7. 10:14 AM - Re: Re: STalled (Noel Loveys)
     8. 10:20 AM - Re: Slow flying... (Noel Loveys)
     9. 10:32 AM - Re: Re: No Title (Noel Loveys)
    10. 10:45 AM - LP windshield installation question (Harold McConnell)
    11. 10:51 AM - top coat (Harry Cieslar)
    12. 11:13 AM - Re: Slow flying... (W Duke)
    13. 11:14 AM - Re: Re: No Title (Lynn Matteson)
    14. 11:15 AM - Re: Re: application of vg (Lynn Matteson)
    15. 11:54 AM - Re: Re: STalled (Lynn Matteson)
    16. 11:57 AM - Re: top coat (Guy Buchanan)
    17. 12:18 PM - Re: LP windshield installation question (Lynn Matteson)
    18. 02:21 PM - Re: STalled (dave)
    19. 02:48 PM - Kitfox V Outback With Lycoming FOR SALE (BRAD MARTIN)
    20. 04:10 PM - Re: Wheel Pants (dave)
    21. 11:33 PM - Fuel injected 912 running (jason Parker)
    22. 11:33 PM - looking for (hansedj)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:03:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Wheel Pants
    From: gary.algate@sandvik.com
    Gents I have purchased a set of Wheel pants and attachment kits from Kitfox LLC but instructions are for the grove gear and I have the tube gear. Can anybody provide photos or instructions "off line" to: gary.algate@sandvik.com Regards Gary Gary Algate Classic 4 jab 2200 Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655 This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may arise as a result of the e-mail transmission.


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    Time: 05:17:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: STalled
    From: gary.algate@sandvik.com
    Michel I use to fly my kitfox on Floats and I also carry some pretty heavy passengers. I use flaps on almost every take off on landing (from about 5 deg to almost full flaps on a short field) I also use combination flaps and slips and love the extra performance I get. I think it's like every stage of learning to fly - first time you do something it's a little scary and then you gradually gain confidence and it becomes a piece of cake. Not using your flaps to me is real mistake as (with practice) it greatly extends the performance envelope of the plane. I honestly know that if you practice this you will love it! Regards Gary Gary Algate Classic 4 Jab2200 Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655 This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may arise as a result of the e-mail transmission. Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com 07/06/2008 04:41 PM Please respond to kitfox-list@matronics.com To <kitfox-list@matronics.com> cc Subject Kitfox-List: Re: STalled Guys, I went for a few traffic pattern yesterday. I needed to check my radio/intercom with the nearby CTR tower. Anyway, since I read about the Kitfox flaps on this list, I thought I should try it. My flaps are adjusted to move only 10 degrees. I never use them because I don't see the point and I don't really like the feeling of it; it pulls the nose downward without really adding much drag. I always adjust speed and altitude with sideslips on final. Anyway, I was on final with 10 degrees flaps and did a sideslip ... oops, it felt like my tail stalled! I am not sure and I didn't want to try again. Are you, guys, sideslipping with the flaps on? Cheers, Michel Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> ">http://forums.matronics.com</a> ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution</a> </b></font></pre>


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    Time: 06:20:51 AM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: STalled
    > From: gary.algate@sandvik.com > I honestly know that if you practice this you will love it! Perhaps, Gary. But I never felt comfortable with flaps. Even less after this last experience fetching an Atec Zephyr from the Czech Republic. We were a bit in a hurry that Saturday evening and although the owner had little time on the plane, we decided to leave at once to stay ahead of the thunderstorms buiding up in the nearby mountains. Once in the air, he asked me: Who's going to land this plane in Germany. I said: I can do it but let me first feel the plane. I went then slow, deployed 10, 20 and 30 degrees flaps and ... didn't like the feel of the plane at all. I then said: You land your plane; I can be your auto-pilot, navigator and ATC communicator! Yes, the Kitfox is certainly different but ... I like so much my Kitfox without flaps! :-) Cheers, Michel Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 Do not archive <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 08:36:06 AM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: application of vg
    At 08:08 AM 6/8/2008, you wrote: >There is no message in this post that I can see. This seems to >happening fairly frequently. Am I doing something wrong. I view >this list on the matronics web site at >http://forums.matronics.com/viewforum.php?f=8&sid=ab1531ee468c5f957cadfc1a88256cd1 Tom, I doubt it, as I get them fairly often too. Sometimes I think people just send at the wrong time, and once it's gone, it's hard to get back. Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.


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    Time: 09:11:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: STalled
    From: "kitfoxmike" <customtrans@qwest.net>
    I find the best way to slow down over the runway is to skip the flaps, I don't like them either, they take away from the use of the ailerons for one, and it's just one more thing to do, and finally you loose the ability to flair, well you get a bunch of nose down pressure. So what do I do, simple, I slip to land and then I maintain the slip over the runway,level flight, cross control, whatever you want to call it until I hit 60mph and than I straighten things out and do a normal landing. talk about fun, if you are well experienced this is a fun one. A lot of times I'll level the wings and leave in full rudder, usually right, mainly so I can see down the runway, in fact I won't use left rudder, you can't see. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186982#186982


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    Time: 10:06:33 AM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: STalled
    The best thing to do with the certified planes is to RTFM before flying. If you find anything you're not sure of ask someone who is familiar with the plane. Either way when flying a new plane read the manual and get a checkout, certified or not. Sigtaturea Noel Loveys Campbellton, NL, Canada CDN AME intern, PP-Rec C-FINB, Kitfox III-A 582 B box, Ivo IFA, Aerocet 1100 floats noelloveys@yahoo.ca -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gibbs Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: STalled Leonard sez: >I would find it hard to believe that air disturbances over the tail >would only effect a Cessna though. I don't think Cessna designed their airplanes with actuators that are too small to do the job. Early models used mechanical flaps with a "Johnson bar" while newer ones use a completely different electric drive, yet they both have the slip-with-flaps limitation. Cessna even reduced the full-flap travel on later models from 40 degrees down to 30 degrees. If there was a design problem, they've had plenty of opportunities to fix. >One would have to think that airflow is airflow and it would effect all >aircraft including dozens of variations of pipers that are side slipped >with full flaps everyday. The geometry of the two designs is quite different so the airflow will be quite different. Imagine the Cessna in a side slip with those huge barn door flaps extended. The nose is down a bit and the airplane is moving sidewise due to the slip. The disturbed airflow from the flaps is striking the tail dead-on. In a low-wing Cherokee with much smaller flaps, the disturbed airflow is passing below the tail surfaces to a greater extent. Remember also, Cherokees use a stabilator with a much larger surface area than the Cessna's elevator. There are plenty of high-wing aircraft, including the Kitfox, in which flap extension and slips get along just fine, but it all has to do with the geometry of the airplane. Mike G. N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster Phoenix, AZ


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    Time: 10:14:39 AM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: STalled
    My instructor had me try a stalls and a slips, at 5000' with full flaps. Yes things did get bouncy, especially when trying to recover from the slip. I wouldn't want to try it close to the ground. The other thing is the flaps on the 172 really slow things down for the last few degrees of operation. The nose drops pretty well and you can do a steep approach without slipping. I used to touch down and stop before passing two dots on the centreline of the runway into less than 19 mph wind... mind you I was solo and very light. Take offs took considerably longer. No noe will accuse the 172 of being STOL. J Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Didier Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:26 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: STalled The 172 POH talks to inducing flutter when slipping with full flaps. SteveD 172N On Jun 8, 2008, at 10:27 AM, dave wrote: > > >> The reason for not slipping a Cessna with flaps deployed is because >> the little control rod that actuates the flaps has been known to >> bend with the induced loads > > > I did not know that. I always thought it was because the airflow > was disturbed over the tail from the 40 degrees of flap deflection. > I have owned several Cessnas and flown 150,152,172,177,180,182 and > 185. > I have just known not to sideslip with full flap deflection. > > -------- > Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada > Flying Videos and Kitfox Info > http://www.cfisher.com/ > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186816#186816 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:20:16 AM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Slow flying...
    In 1974 my father took a flight across Canada in a VJ22 Sportsman Amphib as part of the 25 anniversary of Newfoundland joining Canada. He told me when they were crossing the Lake of the Woods there was a guy in a speed boat that passed them on the water. Later they were passing through the Rockies at one airport tow guys on bicycles left just before they got into the plane... The guys were in Yale some time before the Sportsman, nicknamed =9CThe Newfie Bullet arrived. BTW the Newfie Bullet was the name of our now defunct narrow gauge train. It was famous for being slow and would stop for just about anything... Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of l.morris@tx.rr.com Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 4:33 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Slow flying... Here's a slightly different variation of slow flying. Many times while flying down the autobahn in Germany in a Huey doing 90 knots, I've been passed by BMWs and Mercedes. Do Not Archive Leon Morris/Classic 4 (94)/looking for a Jab/65%/ Flower Mound,TX ---- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote: > > Interesting to hear all the various tales of backwards/reverse > flying, here and in person. Sure opens ones eyes to the various > aspects of putting something up into the elements...thanks folks. > Probably better not to try landing backwards with floats though, eh > Noel. Oh wait a minute, here comes Dave to tell us he's done it! : ) > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster > Jabiru 2200 > Status: flying w/528 hrs > > > > > On Jun 7, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Noel Loveys wrote: > > > Lynn: > > > > > > > > My instructor had me do the flying backwards while training > > (C172N).. We were about 5000=99 over the field when we pulled the > > airspeed back to bout 60 and sure enough slowly but surely we > > drifted backwards enough that it was easy to see. On regular > > intervals he would have me slow the plane down and hang on the prop > > at full throttle until it stalled. > > > > > > > > Wind at the ground was close to 30 and I certainly wouldn=99t have > > been flying solo that day. > > > > > > > > Noel Loveys > > > >


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    Time: 10:32:02 AM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: No Title
    I think it has happened that for some reason or the other a reply gets e-mailed out before the original post. I've noticed this several times. I've replied to questions and noticed other replies came out before mine several hours later. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:41 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: No Title Sometimes this forum is a real mystery to me. Often when I look at a thread there is no message in the first post but other people have replied so I guess they see something. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186916#186916


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    Time: 10:45:55 AM PST US
    From: Harold McConnell <kf30hm@yahoo.com>
    Subject: LP windshield installation question
    Good morning Kitfox group I need some advise on installing the new LP plastics windshield/skylight in my Kitfox model 3. Do you use the tabs on the door posts for attaching the new, thicker windshield? The bottom one seems to be at about the right angle but as I go up to the next ones, they are angled inward more and more and I am afraid to try pulling the plastic in to meet the tabs. Also, does one still use the aluminum angle that went around the door post and windshield, if so it looks like it will need to be bent out some to accomodate the thicker window material. The install kit includes three different length screws, most of which are over an inch long. Where are those longer screws to be used? Looks like a half inch screw would handle everything. Am I missing something? Harold Kitfox 3 with 582 NE North Dakota


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    Time: 10:51:49 AM PST US
    From: Harry Cieslar <hcieslar@cabletv.on.ca>
    Subject: top coat
    Any advice on top coat over epoxy painted cromally steel in cabin area.Ordinary durable non chip pain desired, or can I leave the primer as is? Not Enuro or some hard to find or highly toxic pain ! Thanks, Harry Cieslar ,Avid Magnum, Project, Goderich Ontario


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    Time: 11:13:42 AM PST US
    From: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Slow flying...
    GS is always positive on the GPS.&nbsp; It took the passenger telling me we were going backwards&nbsp; for me to know.&nbsp; I was so focused on the i nstruments&nbsp; I did not notice.&nbsp; I thought the wind was slowing dow n and GS was picking up. do not archive Maxwell Duke S6/TD/IO240 Dublin, GA --- On Fri, 6/6/08, Lynn Matteson &lt;lynnmatt@jps.net&gt; wrote: From: Lynn Matteson &lt;lynnmatt@jps.net&gt; Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Slow flying... --&gt; Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson &lt;lynnmatt@jps.net&gt ; Was the "backwards flying" just an observation, or did you see a reading that was negative? I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious if your GPS or whatever instrument would show a negative speed. Lynn On Jun 6, 2008, at 2:59 PM, W Duke wrote: &gt; I did. Smooth air but strong wind at about 3500 ft. Flaps out &gt; just to see how slow it would go. Very near stall so I was &gt; concentrating on airspeed, altitude, and groundspeed. The &gt; groundspeed started to go up and my passenger said "hey we're going &gt; backwards". &gt; &gt; Maxwell Duke &gt; S6/TD/IO240 &gt; Dublin, GA &gt; &gt; --- On Fri, 6/6/08, Lynn Matteson &lt;lynnmatt@jps.net&gt; wrote: &gt; From: Lynn Matteson &lt;lynnmatt@jps.net&gt; &gt; Subject: Kitfox-List: Slow flying... &gt; To: kitfox-list@matronics.com &gt; Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 12:39 PM &gt; &gt; --&gt; Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson &lt;lynnmatt@jps.net&gt; &gt; I just flew my personal best (or is that worst?) slow ground speed, &gt; covering the ground at an amazing 9 mph. The wind was about 220=B0 @ &gt; 7, according to the local (JXN) ATIS, but up at 3000' MSL, it was &gt; about 37kt, according to Ft. Wayne, IN "winds aloft" reports. At &gt; any rate, I was being blown at 162mph GPS groundspeed (108mph &gt; airspeed) toward the east, when I decided to turn back and see how &gt; slow I could fly groundspeed into the wind. I was at 3000 MSL, &gt; heading about 250=B0, and I started slowing the plane down. I kept &gt; the same 3000 altitude until I got the groundspeed down to 20 mph, &gt; then I started to lose elevation....about 125fpm on the VSI. I kept &gt; throttling back until it got down to 9mph groundspeed, 55mph &gt; airspeed, and I quit playing games when I got down to 2700' MSL. &gt; This was with no flaps, and I think the rpm was about 1900 at that &gt; point...not paying too much attention to that detail. I've heard &gt; about people flying backwards, and I was pretty close to that, but &gt; chickened out before I got over my head. Has anybody slowed their &gt; Kitfox to a negative groundspeed? I'm not trying to claim any &gt; records, but it would be informative to know if anybody has slowed &gt; more than this, and what problems, if any, should one look out for &gt; doing this. Lynn Model IV Speedster, 2200 Jabiru with 520+ hours &gt; ========== &gt; &gt; ======================= =========== ============0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 11:14:38 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: No Title
    Another thing that screws things up...at least for us that choose to receive the forum via email....is the lack of including at least a snippet of the original thread in a persons reply. I think the "rules of the road" put forth by Matronics suggest this so the reader will have a clue why the guy answered, for example: "just screw it in until it stops and back off 1/2 turn." What is he replying to....wheel bearings or carb needle setting? Beats me! Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster Jabiru 2200 Status: flying w/528 hrs On Jun 8, 2008, at 11:11 PM, Tom Jones wrote: > > Sometimes this forum is a real mystery to me. Often when I look at > a thread there is no message in the first post but other people > have replied so I guess they see something. > > -------- > Tom Jones > Classic IV > 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp > Ellensburg, WA > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186916#186916 > >


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    Time: 11:15:37 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: application of vg
    I rest my case....: ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster Jabiru 2200 Status: flying w/528 hrs On Jun 8, 2008, at 11:49 PM, rufas wrote: > > I have noticed that also . > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186918#186918 > >


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    Time: 11:54:35 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: STalled
    After returning one day from training in my Kitfox, my instructor took over during the landing, slipped it to within 30-40 feet of the runway, then gave it back to me. I landed and asked him if he thought I was too high on approach, and he said "No, I was just f- - - ing with you." I was paying attention to my landing at that point for sure, but I don't think his hand was very far from the stick when he gave it back. : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster Jabiru 2200 Status: flying w/528 hrs do not archive On Jun 9, 2008, at 1:12 PM, Noel Loveys wrote: > My instructor had me try a stalls and a slips, at 5000 with full > flaps. Yes things did get bouncy, especially when trying to > recover from the slip. I wouldnt want to try it close to the > ground. The other thing is the flaps on the 172 really slow things > down for the last few degrees of operation. The nose drops pretty > well and you can do a steep approach without slipping. I used to > touch down and stop before passing two dots on the centreline of > the runway into less than 19 mph wind... mind you I was solo and > very light. Take offs took considerably longer. No noe will > accuse the 172 of being STOL. J > > > Noel > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox- > list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Didier > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:26 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: STalled > > > <steve.didier@gmail.com> > > > The 172 POH talks to inducing flutter when slipping with full flaps. > > > SteveD > > 172N > > On Jun 8, 2008, at 10:27 AM, dave wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> The reason for not slipping a Cessna with flaps deployed is because > > >> the little control rod that actuates the flaps has been known to > > >> bend with the induced loads > > > > > > > > > I did not know that. I always thought it was because the airflow > > > was disturbed over the tail from the 40 degrees of flap deflection. > > > I have owned several Cessnas and flown 150,152,172,177,180,182 and > > > 185. > > > I have just known not to sideslip with full flap deflection. > > > > > > -------- > > > Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada > > > Flying Videos and Kitfox Info > > > http://www.cfisher.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186816#186816 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to browse > > Un/Subscription, > > Browse, Chat, FAQ, > > more: > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List > > > Web Forums! > > http://forums.matronics.com > > > support! > > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > ============================================================ _- > contribution_- > ===========================================================


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    Time: 11:57:33 AM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: top coat
    At 10:49 AM 6/9/2008, you wrote: >Any advice on top coat over epoxy painted cromally steel in cabin >area.Ordinary durable non chip pain desired, or can I leave the >primer as is? Not Enuro or some hard to find or highly toxic pain ! I wouldn't leave the primer, as it marks easily. It's possible to paint with just about anything: latex, (yes, house paint,) epoxy, LP, urethane, Aerothane, and others. I think people here have used just about everything. I used LP, which is hard to find, toxic, and expensive, but it gives a great shine and is very hard. Others will chime in with their experiences. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.


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    Time: 12:18:44 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: LP windshield installation question
    I have a Model IV that I installed an LP windshield on, and I bent the door post tabs to more closely match the windshield angle. I did use the aluminum angle (channel, actually) and admittedly, it's bear to line it all up, especially being thicker and stronger, but it can be done. I used the longer bolts to help draw the windshield into place, and when it was all to my satisfaction, installed the correct length bolts as needed. Remember, you are trying to make the windshield fit snug up against the door post, and if the tab doesn't exactly contact the 'shield, it doesn't really matter, because you are installing self-locking nuts, which will hold the 'shield to the post. Certainly don't just draw the nuts down until they squeeze everything together, because the windshield might crack. If the windshield is flat/flush against the post, that's all that matters. When the aluminum channel is installed, you'll have a very smooth transition from the channel to the windshield, and the windshield will be flat against the post, the nuts will be tight and you'll be done. When I did mine, I had the additional problem of installing clips on the bolts to hold my wiring and pitot tubing secure, so some of those longer bolts will be utilized...six hands helps, too. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster Jabiru 2200 Status: flying w/528 hrs On Jun 9, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Harold McConnell wrote: > > Good morning Kitfox group > I need some advise on installing the new LP plastics windshield/ > skylight in my Kitfox model 3. > Do you use the tabs on the door posts for attaching the new, > thicker windshield? The bottom one seems to be at about the right > angle but as I go up to the next ones, they are angled inward more > and more and I am afraid to try pulling the plastic in to meet the > tabs. Also, does one still use the aluminum angle that went around > the door post and windshield, if so it looks like it will need to > be bent out some to accomodate the thicker window material. The > install kit includes three different length screws, most of which > are over an inch long. Where are those longer screws to be used? > Looks like a half inch screw would handle everything. Am I missing > something? > Harold > Kitfox 3 with 582 > NE North Dakota > >


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    Time: 02:21:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: STalled
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    > Not using your flaps to me is real mistake as (with practice) it greatly extends the performance envelope of the plane. > > I honestly know that if you practice this you will love it! > > Regards > > Gary > Gary, Well said -- !! I been trying to emphasize this point to this list without much success. I like to know every edge of everything i touch from Skis doos to airplanes to women If you don't go there you will never get to be more competent. Dave Ps you obviously have found what a differance it makes but I will say Models 1, 2 and 3 will give you less gain than a IV from my experience. -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187020#187020


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    Time: 02:48:38 PM PST US
    From: "BRAD MARTIN" <fly2wb@dishmail.net>
    Subject: Kitfox V Outback With Lycoming FOR SALE
    It is with regret that I must sell my fox. I have not been able to fly since January---the future does not look good for continued flying for me. Do not just want to let it set. Priced to sell at $36,000---much more invested. You will not find another with lycoming at this price. You would have a hard time building one for this price. 2005 Series V Outback 65 hours TT airframe. Lycoming 0-235L2C, 65 hours SMOH. Taildragger with Maule tailwheel. Strobes, landing light, taxi light. Electric trim. Low fuel warning light. Extra set of 800 Tundra tires. Quad EGT, CHT guages. Icom transceiver. Narco transponder. Intercom with stereo MP3 input. Dual brakes,,adjustable rudder pedals. Factory powdercoated. Sensenich wood climb/cruise combo. Garmin 196 moving map GPS. 4 videos on U-TUBE under "kitfox 5" of this aircraft flying. Can send pictures. E-mail me OFF LIST if interested. Thanks, Brad Martin K50 Kansas


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    Time: 04:10:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wheel Pants
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Gary, I just took my large wheel pants outta the barn. The house my wheels nicely and retractable as well. should look like this soon :-) -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187034#187034 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pics_014_185.jpg


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    Time: 11:33:44 PM PST US
    From: jason Parker <litesellme@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Fuel injected 912 running
    Read about how I fuel injected my Titan Tornado in 3 weeks. Ialso have a customer with a kitfox 7 who has one of my 914's. He will be ready to fire up his engine in a month or two. mine is runningGreat! I'll add some videos on UTUBE and a link on my site.www.experimentalfuelinjection.com/wst_page4Jason


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    Time: 11:33:44 PM PST US
    Subject: looking for
    From: "hansedj" <daryl.hansen@atk.com>
    Looking for George Michials on the list Email me at Daryl.Hansen@atk.com -------- Dj, Series 6 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187084#187084




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