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     2. 06:19 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Model II - Light Sport or Experimental or both? (bob noffs)
     3. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Model II - Light Sport or Experimental or both? (Bob Brennan)
     4. 07:04 AM - Re: Re: Model 2 fuel gauge (Bob Brennan)
     5. 07:14 AM - Re: Model 2 fuel gauge (Bob Brennan)
     6. 08:07 AM - Re: Model 2 fuel gauge (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
     7. 08:31 AM - Re: Model 2 fuel gauge (Bob Brennan)
     8. 08:36 AM - Airshows - Fly-ins WAS W/B issues (jdmcbean)
     9. 10:51 AM - Re: Model 2 fuel gauge (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
    10. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message) (mic thiessen)
    11. 11:49 AM - Re: Airshows - Fly-ins WAS W/B issues (Frank Miles)
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    13. 03:47 PM - Re: Rudder seems stiff (dave)
    14. 04:03 PM - Re: Rudder seems stiff (n85ae)
    15. 04:20 PM - Re: Re: Rudder seems stiff (Pete Christensen)
    16. 07:03 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message) (Rick)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message) | 
      
      
      I'm running an EA 81 T in my Series 5 and very pleased with it. 2.2:1 PSRU and
      performs very well. 72" WD prop and intercooler.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189883#189883
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kitfox Model II - Light Sport or Experimental or | 
      both?
      
      
      the reservation is an annual fee.
                                                       bob noffs
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
      Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:48 PM
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Model II - Light Sport or Experimental 
      or both?
      
      
      > <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
      >
      > Rick,
      >
      > You can reserve an available N-number online for $10 at
      > http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft_reg
      > istry/n_numbers/, find more info at http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/.
      >
      > Bob Brennan
      > 1991 Model 2 Kitfox
      > Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
      > Wrightsville Pa
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick 
      > Frederick
      > Sent: 24 June 2008 1:43 pm
      > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Model II - Light Sport or 
      > Experimental
      > or both?
      >
      >
      > Hi David,
      > I saw this thread and figured I should ask the question...
      > I have a Kitfox IV with a rotax 912.
      > I'm about 50% done with; about to paint.
      > Is there anything special involved in getting an N-number?
      > It would be nice to be light sport but I was just planning to apply for
      > experimental (amature built).
      >
      > Thanks Rick.
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "dcsfoto" <david@kelm.com>
      > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:44 AM
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Model II - Light Sport or Experimental or
      > both?
      >
      >
      >>
      >> wow what  fun    My Kitfox 7 is " Experimental Liglt Sport"
      >> Got my N number prior to the original Jan 31 08 deadline.
      >>
      >> Import Aircraft are new aircraft manufactured outside the US to a US FAA
      >> TCDS
      >> example Falcon 900EX coming to the US the first time,it arrives with a
      >> French DGAC issued Export Certificate of Airworthiness.
      >>
      >> a Kitfox 2 only needs proof that it meets experimental amateur built
      >> requirements and make application to FAA to certificate it.
      >>
      >> contact me offline if you need help
      >>
      >> David  FAA DAR
      >> Kitfox 3 and 7
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kitfox Model II - Light Sport or Experimental or | 
      both?
      
      
      It's only an annual fee to hold the number in reserve. I reserved mine in
      advance and even though the registration (import from the UK) process took 9
      months I was able to finally get the N number I wanted. I only paid one fee
      because the number is now registered to me, or more specifically my Kitfox.
      
      Bob Brennan
      1991 Model 2 Kitfox
      Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
      Wrightsville Pa
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob noffs
      Sent: 26 June 2008 9:08 am
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Model II - Light Sport or Experimental
      or both?
      
      
      the reservation is an annual fee.
                                                       bob noffs
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
      Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:48 PM
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Model II - Light Sport or Experimental 
      or both?
      
      
      > <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
      >
      > Rick,
      >
      > You can reserve an available N-number online for $10 at
      >
      http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft_reg
      > istry/n_numbers/, find more info at http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/.
      >
      > Bob Brennan
      > 1991 Model 2 Kitfox
      > Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
      > Wrightsville Pa
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick 
      > Frederick
      > Sent: 24 June 2008 1:43 pm
      > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Model II - Light Sport or 
      > Experimental
      > or both?
      >
      >
      > Hi David,
      > I saw this thread and figured I should ask the question...
      > I have a Kitfox IV with a rotax 912.
      > I'm about 50% done with; about to paint.
      > Is there anything special involved in getting an N-number?
      > It would be nice to be light sport but I was just planning to apply for
      > experimental (amature built).
      >
      > Thanks Rick.
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "dcsfoto" <david@kelm.com>
      > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:44 AM
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Model II - Light Sport or Experimental or
      > both?
      >
      >
      >>
      >> wow what  fun    My Kitfox 7 is " Experimental Liglt Sport"
      >> Got my N number prior to the original Jan 31 08 deadline.
      >>
      >> Import Aircraft are new aircraft manufactured outside the US to a US FAA
      >> TCDS
      >> example Falcon 900EX coming to the US the first time,it arrives with a
      >> French DGAC issued Export Certificate of Airworthiness.
      >>
      >> a Kitfox 2 only needs proof that it meets experimental amateur built
      >> requirements and make application to FAA to certificate it.
      >>
      >> contact me offline if you need help
      >>
      >> David  FAA DAR
      >> Kitfox 3 and 7
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Model 2 fuel gauge | 
      
      
      Thanks Cory - I had noticed that sunlight shining through the tank was the
      only time I could actually see the fuel level accurately, but in the UK a
      sunny day is not a normal thing!
      
      Bob
      
      Bob Brennan
      1991 Model 2 Kitfox
      Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
      Wrightsville Pa
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of corbob13
      Sent: 25 June 2008 1:52 pm
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Model 2 fuel gauge
      
      
      Bob,
      On my model II there's a light installed behind the tank near the sight
      gage.  To see the fuel level I flip a switch on the panel, the light comes
      on, and it's easy to see the level of the fuel.  I prefer this method to
      drilling holes in the tank then sealing tubes, etc. for fear of leaks.  
      
      Cory
      
      --------
      Cory
      
      N903DB
      Kitfox Model II, Rotax 582
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189783#189783
      
      
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| Subject:  | Model 2 fuel gauge | 
      
      Thanks Jim - I think that is what I will do, although I will (somehow) make
      sure the top of the tube returns to the top of the fuel tank. Somehow the
      thought of having an unusual attitude incident is scary enough, having one
      with fuel possibly spilling inside the cabin is *really* scary.
      
      One thought though - my Kitfox is a taildragger and the amount of fuel shown
      on the ground would be very different to that shown in level flight if the
      tube is any distance aft of the tank. I suppose 2 scales on either side of
      the tube should solve that problem.
      
      One more general question to the group - are these sorts of modifications
      technically legal on an Experimental Aircraft by the own who is not the
      builder? On a Light Sport? I am still researching what "type" to certify my
      UK-built Kitfox II as (pardon the dangling participle).
      
      Bob
      
      Bob Brennan
      
      1991 Model 2 Kitfox
      
      Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
      
      Wrightsville Pa
      
      
        _____  
      
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      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim_and_Lucy
      Chuk
      Sent: 25 June 2008 11:45 am
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Model 2 fuel gauge
      
      
      On my B model Avid, I put a T in the fuel line under the tank and ran a
      clear plastic hose up the door post on the left side.  The fuel seeks it's
      own level and so I can see the fuel level in the hose.  I added fuel one
      gallon at a time and marked that level so I see the fuel amount there.  The
      hose is open at the top though so if I rolled the plane onto it's top I
      would have fuel comming out of it which would not be good.  If you wnted to
      drill a hole in the tank near the top, you could put the hose into that hole
      with the right rubber seal in the hole.  Hope this helps,  Jim Chuk  Avids,
      Kitfox 4  Mn
      
      > From: matronics@bob.brennan.name
      > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 2 fuel gauge
      > Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:11:54 -0400
      > 
      <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
      > 
      > My 1991 Model II has the plastic fuel tank behind the instrument panel
      with
      > slits in the panel to see the fuel level. Over time the tank has yellowed
      > and is pretty much the color of the fuel, so it is pretty difficult, to
      > nearly impossible, to see the level.
      > 
      > The obvious question - is there a fuel gauge retrofit of any kind
      available?
      > Putting a clear fuel "tube" on the panel, connected to the top and bottom
      of
      > the tank, is what comes to mind. Does anyone have a good solution, with
      > details?
      > 
      > Bob Brennan
      > 1991 Model 2 Kitfox
      > Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop 
      > Wrightsville Pa
      > 
      &===================
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Model 2 fuel gauge | 
      
      
      Just looked in my newest (2002) CPS catalog and found what you need to plug
       the hose back into the tank.  Rubber tank 
      grommet ($.95) and an elbow tank fitting ($1.95)  Price is no doubt higher 
      now, but it shouldn't break the bank.  I should 
      have had the parts available when I changed the windshield, it would have b
      een a lot easier to drill the hole in the tank
      near the very top of the tank.  On an experimental aircraft, anyone can do 
      any of the work on the plane, except for the 
      yearly conditional inspection.  If the original builder has the repairmans 
      certifcate for that plane, he can also do the insp.
      Hope this helps,  Jim Chuk  Avids  Kitfox 4  Mn 
      
      
      From: matronics@bob.brennan.nameTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: K
      itfox-List: Model 2 fuel gaugeDate: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:11:36 -0400
      
      
      Thanks Jim - I think that is what I will do, although I will (somehow) make
       sure the top of the tube returns to the top of the fuel tank. Somehow the 
      thought of having an unusual attitude incident is scary enough, having one 
      with fuel possibly spilling inside the cabin is *really* scary.
      
      One thought though - my Kitfox is a taildragger and the amount of fuel show
      n on the ground would be very different to that shown in level flight if th
      e tube is any distance aft of the tank. I suppose 2 scales on either side o
      f the tube should solve that problem.
      
      One more general question to the group - are these sorts of modifications t
      echnically legal on an Experimental Aircraft by the own who is not the buil
      der? On a Light Sport? I am still researching what "type" to certify my UK-
      built Kitfox II as (pardon the dangling participle).
      
      Bob
      
      
      Bob Brennan
      1991 Model 2 Kitfox
      Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
      Wrightsville Pa
      
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv
      er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim_and_Lucy ChukSent: 25 June 2008 11:45 am
      On my B model Avid, I put a T in the fuel line under the tank and ran a cle
      ar plastic hose up the door post on the left side.  The fuel seeks it's own
       level and so I can see the fuel level in the hose.  I added fuel one gallo
      n at a time and marked that level so I see the fuel amount there.  The hose
       is open at the top though so if I rolled the plane onto it's top I would h
      ave fuel comming out of it which would not be good.  If you wnted to drill 
      a hole in the tank near the top, you could put the hose into that hole with
       the right rubber seal in the hole.  Hope this helps,  Jim Chuk  Avids,  Ki
      tfox 4  Mn> From: matronics@bob.brennan.name> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 2 fuel gauge> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:11:54
      rennan.name>> > My 1991 Model II has the plastic fuel tank behind the instr
      ument panel with> slits in the panel to see the fuel level. Over time the t
      ank has yellowed> and is pretty much the color of the fuel, so it is pretty
       difficult, to> nearly impossible, to see the level.> > The obvious questio
      n - is there a fuel gauge retrofit of any kind available?> Putting a clear 
      fuel "tube" on the panel, connected to the top and bottom of> the tank, is 
      what comes to mind. Does anyone have a good solution, with> details?> > Bob
       Brennan> 1991 Model 2 Kitfox> Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop > Wrightsville P
      a> &====================> > > 
      
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| Subject:  | Model 2 fuel gauge | 
      
      Thanks again Jim - you also mentioned "changed the windshield" below which
      brings up another important point. My windshield stress-cracked at the bend
      point in the top corner so I drilled a small hole at the end to stop further
      cracking and covered the crack with prop tape. Now the other side has
      cracked in the same way which is why I was looking for a source for prop
      tape several emails ago - which I will now buy from the McBeans. 
      
      The repair passed the UK Permit To Fly annual inspection and I will find out
      next week if my Airworthiness inspector will accept it, but assuming not -
      how difficult was it to replace the windshield and where did you get it? I
      suspect you have to template and bend it yourself, and a previous owner
      didn't heat the bend properly to relieve stress, but that's a detail I will
      ask about as needs be.
      
      Bob
      
      Bob Brennan
      1991 Model 2 Kitfox
      Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
      Wrightsville Pa
      
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      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim_and_Lucy
      Chuk
      Sent: 26 June 2008 11:05 am
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Model 2 fuel gauge
      
      
      Just looked in my newest (2002) CPS catalog and found what you need to plug
      the hose back into the tank.  Rubber tank 
      grommet ($.95) and an elbow tank fitting ($1.95)  Price is no doubt higher
      now, but it shouldn't break the bank.  I should 
      have had the parts available when I changed the windshield, it would have
      been a lot easier to drill the hole in the tank
      near the very top of the tank.  On an experimental aircraft, anyone can do
      any of the work on the plane, except for the 
      yearly conditional inspection.  If the original builder has the repairmans
      certifcate for that plane, he can also do the insp.
      Hope this helps,  Jim Chuk  Avids  Kitfox 4  Mn 
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: matronics@bob.brennan.name
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Model 2 fuel gauge
      
      
      Thanks Jim - I think that is what I will do, although I will (somehow) make
      sure the top of the tube returns to the top of the fuel tank. Somehow the
      thought of having an unusual attitude incident is scary enough, having one
      with fuel possibly spilling inside the cabin is *really* scary.
      
      One thought though - my Kitfox is a taildragger and the amount of fuel shown
      on the ground would be very different to that shown in level flight if the
      tube is any distance aft of the tank. I suppose 2 scales on either side of
      the tube should solve that problem.
      
      One more general question to the group - are these sorts of modifications
      technically legal on an Experimental Aircraft by the own who is not the
      builder? On a Light Sport? I am still researching what "type" to certify my
      UK-built Kitfox II as (pardon the dangling participle).
      
      Bob
      
      Bob Brennan
      1991 Model 2 Kitfox
      Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
      Wrightsville Pa
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim_and_Lucy
      Chuk
      Sent: 25 June 2008 11:45 am
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Model 2 fuel gauge
      
      
      On my B model Avid, I put a T in the fuel line under the tank and ran a
      clear plastic hose up the door post on the left side.  The fuel seeks it's
      own level and so I can see the fuel level in the hose.  I added fuel one
      gallon at a time and marked that level so I see the fuel amount there.  The
      hose is open at the top though so if I rolled the plane onto it's top I
      would have fuel comming out of it which would not be good.  If you wnted to
      drill a hole in the tank near the top, you could put the hose into that hole
      with the right rubber seal in the hole.  Hope this helps,  Jim Chuk  Avids,
      Kitfox 4  Mn
      
      > From: matronics@bob.brennan.name
      > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 2 fuel gauge
      > Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:11:54 -0400
      > 
      <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
      > 
      > My 1991 Model II has the plastic fuel tank behind the instrument panel
      with
      > slits in the panel to see the fuel level. Over time the tank has yellowed
      > and is pretty much the color of the fuel, so it is pretty difficult, to
      > nearly impossible, to see the level.
      > 
      > The obvious question - is there a fuel gauge retrofit of any kind
      available?
      > Putting a clear fuel "tube" on the panel, connected to the top and bottom
      of
      > the tank, is what comes to mind. Does anyone have a good solution, with
      > details?
      > 
      > Bob Brennan
      > 1991 Model 2 Kitfox
      > Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop 
      > Wrightsville Pa
      > 
      &===================
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Airshows - Fly-ins   WAS   W/B issues | 
      
      On that note. Hope to see many of you at our Fly-In Labor Day Weekend.
      http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/kaflyin%202008.htm 
      
      
      We will also be at Arlington and Oshkosh.. North Aircraft display at
      Oshkosh.  We are planning on a informal gathering of Kitfoxer's or
      interested parties at Oshkosh.. July 31st, Thursday at the Charcoal pit from
      6 pm til... 
      
      
      Fly Safe !!
      John & Debra McBean
      Ph 208.337.5111
      www.kitfoxaircraft.com 
      "The Sky is not the Limit...  It's a Playground" 
      
      
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      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reilly
      Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:10 PM
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: W/B issues
      
      
      John & Deb, Thanks for the info. See you in Oshkosh.
      
      Do not archive
      
      Pat Reilly
      mod 3 582 Rebuild
      Rockford, IL
      
      
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| Subject:  | Model 2 fuel gauge | 
      
      
      I changed the windshield out in one afternoon.  I bought some .60 lexan fro
      m a local commercial glass installer.  It actually 
      cost me half of what it would have been from ACS.  I used the old windshiel
      d for a pattern and cut and drilled the new one 
      and used large head aluminum pop rivets with a small washer under the rib s
      o it wouldn't pull through.  Worked fine for me.
      I didn't use any heat to form the compound bends either.  Jim Chuk  Avids  
      Kitfox 4  Mn
      
      
      From: matronics@bob.brennan.nameTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: K
      itfox-List: Model 2 fuel gaugeDate: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:27:21 -0400
      
      
      Thanks again Jim - you also mentioned "changed the windshield" below which 
      brings up another important point. My windshield stress-cracked at the bend
       point in the top corner so I drilled a small hole at the end to stop furth
      er cracking and covered the crack with prop tape. Now the other side has cr
      acked in the same way which is why I was looking for a source for prop tape
       several emails ago - which I will now buy from the McBeans. 
      
      The repair passed the UK Permit To Fly annual inspection and I will find ou
      t next week if my Airworthiness inspector will accept it, but assuming not 
      - how difficult was it to replace the windshield and where did you get it? 
      I suspect you have to template and bend it yourself, and a previous owner d
      idn't heat the bend properly to relieve stress, but that's a detail I will 
      ask about as needs be.
      
      Bob
      
      
      Bob Brennan1991 Model 2 KitfoxRotax 582 with 3 blade propWrightsville Pa
      
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv
      er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim_and_Lucy ChukSent: 26 June 2008 11:05 am
      Just looked in my newest (2002) CPS catalog and found what you need to plug
       the hose back into the tank.  Rubber tank grommet ($.95) and an elbow tank
       fitting ($1.95)  Price is no doubt higher now, but it shouldn't break the 
      bank.  I should have had the parts available when I changed the windshield,
       it would have been a lot easier to drill the hole in the tanknear the very
       top of the tank.  On an experimental aircraft, anyone can do any of the wo
      rk on the plane, except for the yearly conditional inspection.  If the orig
      inal builder has the repairmans certifcate for that plane, he can also do t
      he insp.Hope this helps,  Jim Chuk  Avids  Kitfox 4  Mn 
      
      
      From: matronics@bob.brennan.nameTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: K
      itfox-List: Model 2 fuel gaugeDate: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:11:36 -0400
      
      
      Thanks Jim - I think that is what I will do, although I will (somehow) make
       sure the top of the tube returns to the top of the fuel tank. Somehow the 
      thought of having an unusual attitude incident is scary enough, having one 
      with fuel possibly spilling inside the cabin is *really* scary.
      
      One thought though - my Kitfox is a taildragger and the amount of fuel show
      n on the ground would be very different to that shown in level flight if th
      e tube is any distance aft of the tank. I suppose 2 scales on either side o
      f the tube should solve that problem.
      
      One more general question to the group - are these sorts of modifications t
      echnically legal on an Experimental Aircraft by the own who is not the buil
      der? On a Light Sport? I am still researching what "type" to certify my UK-
      built Kitfox II as (pardon the dangling participle).
      
      Bob
      
      Bob Brennan1991 Model 2 KitfoxRotax 582 with 3 blade propWrightsville Pa
      
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv
      er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim_and_Lucy ChukSent: 25 June 2008 11:45 am
      On my B model Avid, I put a T in the fuel line under the tank and ran a cle
      ar plastic hose up the door post on the left side.  The fuel seeks it's own
       level and so I can see the fuel level in the hose.  I added fuel one gallo
      n at a time and marked that level so I see the fuel amount there.  The hose
       is open at the top though so if I rolled the plane onto it's top I would h
      ave fuel comming out of it which would not be good.  If you wnted to drill 
      a hole in the tank near the top, you could put the hose into that hole with
       the right rubber seal in the hole.  Hope this helps,  Jim Chuk  Avids,  Ki
      tfox 4  Mn> From: matronics@bob.brennan.name> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 2 fuel gauge> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:11:54
      rennan.name>> > My 1991 Model II has the plastic fuel tank behind the instr
      ument panel with> slits in the panel to see the fuel level. Over time the t
      ank has yellowed> and is pretty much the color of the fuel, so it is pretty
       difficult, to> nearly impossible, to see the level.> > The obvious questio
      n - is there a fuel gauge retrofit of any kind available?> Putting a clear 
      fuel "tube" on the panel, connected to the top and bottom of> the tank, is 
      what comes to mind. Does anyone have a good solution, with> details?> > Bob
       Brennan> 1991 Model 2 Kitfox> Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop > Wrightsville P
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| Subject:  | Re: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message) | 
      
      
      to al subaru runners
      
      I am also running an EA81 with a 2.17 : 1 gear redrive (ross aero)....I jus
      t had Ram Engines from Ohio work on my engine and bumped it up to 113 hp...
      since getting it back and put back in I have been plaqued with over heating
       probalems...both oil and water,,, The water rad is under the belly just ba
      ck from the seat....i moved the oil rad to the same place hoping to get som
      e extra cooling for the oil...it helped but not enough...my temp is running
       about 200-210 for the water and 210-220 for the oil...any ideas or suggest
      ions....Ram engines thinks that with the extra power the redrive is the cul
      prit(they probably want to sell me theirs)...I run an Ivo medium 2 blade in
       flight adjustable...cruise rpm is 4-4400...Ideas???????????????????
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message)> From: janderso
      n412@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:28:52 -0700> To: kitfox-list@ma
      hotmail.com>> > I'm running an EA 81 T in my Series 5 and very pleased with
       it. 2.2:1 PSRU and performs very well. 72" WD prop and intercooler.> > > >
       > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.ph
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| Subject:  | Airshows - Fly-ins   WAS   W/B issues | 
      
      John,
      
      
      You are still planning to be at Lewiston, Idaho September 13th for our Air
      Fair?  I know that some are looking forward to seeing you here..
      
      
      Frank
      
      
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      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
      Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:34 AM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Airshows - Fly-ins WAS W/B issues
      
      
      On that note. Hope to see many of you at our Fly-In Labor Day Weekend.
      http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/kaflyin%202008.htm 
      
      
      We will also be at Arlington and Oshkosh.. North Aircraft display at
      Oshkosh.  We are planning on a informal gathering of Kitfoxer's or
      interested parties at Oshkosh.. July 31st, Thursday at the Charcoal pit from
      6 pm til... 
      
      
      Fly Safe !!
      John & Debra McBean
      Ph 208.337.5111
      www.kitfoxaircraft.com 
      "The Sky is not the Limit...  It's a Playground" 
      
      
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      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reilly
      Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:10 PM
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: W/B issues
      
      
      John & Deb, Thanks for the info. See you in Oshkosh.
      
      Do not archive
      
      Pat Reilly
      mod 3 582 Rebuild
      Rockford, IL
      
      Release Date: 6/25/2008 4:13 PM 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder seems stiff | 
      
      
      I have a Vixen (Series 5).  When I purchased the plane I felt the rudder was a
      bit tight.  I guess I got used to it.  Over time my rudder started getting stiffer
      and stiffer.  It turned out to be the rudder pedal bushings.  They were almost
      locked in place.  I had to actually machine them down a little bit to make
      them fit without binding.  The difference was amazing.  ...smooth an easy!
      
      Travis :D
      
      --------
      Travis Rayner
      Mobile, AL
      Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
      Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop
      ADI-II Autopilot
      AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189973#189973
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder seems stiff | 
      
      
      like I said  a few days  a go.....
      
      
      > Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject: Re: Rudder seems stiff    
      > 
      > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      >  
      > on the ground all controls should be free and easy. 
      > elevator should fall with gravity. Rudder should be totally free. IF not something
      is binding and that is not good. 
      > 
      > In the air all controls will get "stiffer" with speed.
      >  
      > 
      
      
      --------
      Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
      Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
      http://www.cfisher.com/
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189978#189978
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder seems stiff | 
      
      
      If you have a Maule tailwheel it might have too many friction washers in it.
      See if the tailwheel is the culprit.
      
      Jeff
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder seems stiff | 
      
      
      If your rudder is stiff for more than 4 hours, please see a doctor.
      
      Sorry I couldnt resist.
      
      Pete
      Kitfox III
      912 ul
      Hell Paso, TX
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message) | 
      
      Can you post a pic of your current set up along with some reference for
      measurements?
      
      Rick
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mic
      thiessen
      Sent: 2008-06-26 11:32
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message)
      
      
      to al subaru runners
      
      I am also running an EA81 with a 2.17 : 1 gear redrive (ross aero)....I
      just had Ram Engines from Ohio work on my engine and bumped it up to 113
      hp...since getting it back and put back in I have been plaqued with over
      heating probalems...both oil and water,,, The water rad is under the
      belly just back from the seat....i moved the oil rad to the same place
      hoping to get some extra cooling for the oil...it helped but not
      enough...my temp is running about 200-210 for the water and 210-220 for
      the oil...any ideas or suggestions....Ram engines thinks that with the
      extra power the redrive is the culprit(they probably want to sell me
      theirs)...I run an Ivo medium 2 blade in flight adjustable...cruise rpm
      is 4-4400...Ideas???????????????????
      
      
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message)
      > From: janderson412@hotmail.com
      > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:28:52 -0700
      > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > 
      <janderson412@hotmail.com>
      > 
      > I'm running an EA 81 T in my Series 5 and very pleased with it. 2.2:1
      PSRU and performs very well. 72" WD prop and intercooler.
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189883#189883
      > 
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      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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