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1. 10:52 AM - Safety Wire (Bob Brennan)
2. 11:18 AM - Re: Safety Wire (Rick Frederick)
3. 11:22 AM - Re: Safety Wire (steve eccles)
4. 11:41 AM - Rudder pulley's (Clint Bazzill)
5. 11:54 AM - Re: Safety Wire (n85ae)
6. 12:34 PM - Re: Safety Wire (Bob Brennan)
7. 12:41 PM - Re: Rudder pulley's (Lynn Matteson)
8. 01:24 PM - Re: Re: Safety Wire (Rick Frederick)
9. 01:33 PM - Re: Rudder pulley's (jdmcbean)
10. 01:33 PM - Re: Re: Safety Wire (Bob Brennan)
11. 02:46 PM - Re: Rudder pulley's (Lynn Matteson)
12. 06:20 PM - Re: Safety Wire (vetdrem)
13. 06:53 PM - Re: Rudder seems stiff (nick4853)
14. 06:57 PM - Re: Re: Safety Wire (Bob Brennan)
15. 10:36 PM - 912S Oil and Coolant (wadegreaves)
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Hi all,
I am doing some repairs that require undoing some "safety wire". Where does
one get replacement "safety wire" and if it's at the local hardware store
what are the specs?
I also notice that the existing wire is *very* neatly twisted and tucked
away, is there a special tool for this or was the builder just really good
with pliers?
Thanks in advance,
Bob Brennan
1991 Model 2 Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
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Hi Bob ,
There are many sources for safety wire and pliers.
I got mine from spruce:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/wireTwister.php
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/safetywire.php
The size of wire depends on your application.
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Rick Kitfox IV/ 912ul 50%
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Brennan
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:48 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Safety Wire
Hi all,
I am doing some repairs that require undoing some "safety wire". Where
does one get replacement "safety wire" and if it's at the local hardware
store what are the specs?
I also notice that the existing wire is *very* neatly twisted and
tucked away, is there a special tool for this or was the builder just
really good with pliers?
Thanks in advance,
Bob Brennan
1991 Model 2 Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
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Aircraft Spruce ,, Aviall, local airport ,
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Brennan
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:49 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Safety Wire
Hi all,
I am doing some repairs that require undoing some "safety wire". Where does
one get replacement "safety wire" and if it's at the local hardware store
what are the specs?
I also notice that the existing wire is *very* neatly twisted and tucked
away, is there a special tool for this or was the builder just really good
with pliers?
Thanks in advance,
Bob Brennan
1991 Model 2 Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
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Does anyone know the number of the rudder pulley for the Model IV?
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Safety wire pliers are not needed at all, I did Zillions without any in the
Navy once you get the technique you will find that you can hand twist
very easily. Less chance of breaking the wire as well. It's great for
building callouses as well. The cost of the pliers just to maintain a
single small plane isn't worth it.
The wire does not need to be guitar string tight, it just needs to be snug
enough to prevent the fastener from coming undone.
Regards,
Jeff
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190135#190135
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Thanks Rick,
I have ordered the special pliers and both sizes of 25ft wire, cheap enough.
Bob Brennan
1991 Model 2 Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Frederick
Sent: 27 June 2008 2:16 pm
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Safety Wire
Hi Bob ,
There are many sources for safety wire and pliers.
I got mine from spruce:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/wireTwister.php
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/safetywire.php
The size of wire depends on your application.
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Rick Kitfox IV/ 912ul 50%
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Brennan <mailto:matronics@bob.brennan.name>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:48 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Safety Wire
Hi all,
I am doing some repairs that require undoing some "safety wire". Where does
one get replacement "safety wire" and if it's at the local hardware store
what are the specs?
I also notice that the existing wire is *very* neatly twisted and tucked
away, is there a special tool for this or was the builder just really good
with pliers?
Thanks in advance,
Bob Brennan
1991 Model 2 Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder pulley's |
Yes.
Oh, I'll bet you wanted to KNOW the number, eh Clint? Sorry, I
couldn't resist...my parts book shows it to be 93015.000. Now that is
Skystar's part number, but in the description of the part it is
"Pulley ; A223 / Rudder Cable Guide"
Spruce shows a #A223 as "with plain phenolic bore..." I'd go to
their page 143 and check it out before buying to be sure it's the
same size, because SS might have "switched boats in the middle of the
stream."
John McBean probably has them, and would know if a change had been made.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying w/538 hrs
On Jun 27, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Clint Bazzill wrote:
> Does anyone know the number of the rudder pulley for the Model IV?_
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Hi Bob,
Jeff is absolutely correct. You can do a very nice job of twisting safety
wire without the special pliers (probably using some tool to clamp the wire
ends; like vice grips).
I should have prefaced my post by saying that I am a novice and mostly do
work on my Mooney and now building my Kitfox.
I happen to find the cost of the pliers well worth it, i think i paid about
$20 for mine and it came with 2 spools of wire.
Regards, Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "n85ae" <n85ae@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:52 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Safety Wire
>
> Safety wire pliers are not needed at all, I did Zillions without any in
> the
> Navy once you get the technique you will find that you can hand twist
> very easily. Less chance of breaking the wire as well. It's great for
> building callouses as well. The cost of the pliers just to maintain a
> single small plane isn't worth it.
>
> The wire does not need to be guitar string tight, it just needs to be snug
> enough to prevent the fastener from coming undone.
>
> Regards,
> Jeff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190135#190135
>
>
>
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93015.000 in stock.. $4.51
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
Ph 208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clint Bazzill
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:39 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Rudder pulley's
Does anyone know the number of the rudder pulley for the Model IV?
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I am more than a novice, at least when it comes to doing repairs on an
aircraft, this being my first encounter with safety wires. I am no novice to
safety though, and when I see neatly twisted and tucked SAFETY wires I do my
best to make sure my replacement is at least as good. And SAFE!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Frederick
Sent: 27 June 2008 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Safety Wire
Hi Bob,
Jeff is absolutely correct. You can do a very nice job of twisting safety
wire without the special pliers (probably using some tool to clamp the wire
ends; like vice grips).
I should have prefaced my post by saying that I am a novice and mostly do
work on my Mooney and now building my Kitfox.
I happen to find the cost of the pliers well worth it, i think i paid about
$20 for mine and it came with 2 spools of wire.
Regards, Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "n85ae" <n85ae@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:52 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Safety Wire
>
> Safety wire pliers are not needed at all, I did Zillions without any in
> the
> Navy once you get the technique you will find that you can hand twist
> very easily. Less chance of breaking the wire as well. It's great for
> building callouses as well. The cost of the pliers just to maintain a
> single small plane isn't worth it.
>
> The wire does not need to be guitar string tight, it just needs to be snug
> enough to prevent the fastener from coming undone.
>
> Regards,
> Jeff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190135#190135
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder pulley's |
There ya go, Clint....right from the preferred source, and without
all the smart-alec remarks from the listers....(me). : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying w/538 hrs
do not archive
On Jun 27, 2008, at 4:28 PM, jdmcbean wrote:
> 93015.000 in stock.. $4.51
>
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> Ph 208.337.5111
> www.kitfoxaircraft.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
>
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clint Bazzill
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:39 PM
> To: Kitfox list
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Rudder pulley's
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> Does anyone know the number of the rudder pulley for the Model IV?
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Pretty is nice, but if it isn't done correctly, you might as well not do it.
Here is a link that does a pretty good job of showing the correct way to safety
wire things.
http://www.whizwheels.com/Tips/safetywiring.html
It REALLY is important to do it right.
Louie
model 3 912ul
soon to be on aerocet 1100 amphibs
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190180#190180
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder seems stiff |
Thanks for all the suggestions. I Jacked the tail up everything seemed pretty
easy and smooth no noticeable binding or friction. I took the pedals off and
gusseted with 4130. Going to install tomorrow. After I took the pedals off I
was able to pull the rudder easily with my hands using the cables. Another
question What should I lubricate the rudder pedal pivot bushings with?
--------
kitfox !V-1200
Rotax 912ul
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Thanks Louie - that link is excellent and I couldn't agree more about doing
the job as best as possible.
Bob Brennan
1991 Model 2 Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of vetdrem
Sent: 27 June 2008 9:18 pm
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Safety Wire
Pretty is nice, but if it isn't done correctly, you might as well not do it.
Here is a link that does a pretty good job of showing the correct way to
safety wire things.
http://www.whizwheels.com/Tips/safetywiring.html
It REALLY is important to do it right.
Louie
model 3 912ul
soon to be on aerocet 1100 amphibs
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190180#190180
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| Subject: | 912S Oil and Coolant |
About ready to fire up my 912S.
Even though Rotax publishes a list of recommended oils, what are people using that
are the most readily available without having to have them shipped? Looking
for one of the ones on the list that can be bought at the auto parts store
level (Napa, etc...)
Also, the same question goes for coolant.
Thanks!
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