Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Tue 07/29/08


Total Messages Posted: 24



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:03 AM - Rain ... but no longer actual (Michel Verheughe)
     2. 08:01 AM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (akflyer)
     3. 08:27 AM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (fox5flyer)
     4. 08:42 AM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (JetPilot)
     5. 09:06 AM - Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling (A H)
     6. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: Muchael (paul wilson)
     7. 09:34 AM - Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling (fox5flyer)
     8. 09:57 AM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (JetPilot)
     9. 10:03 AM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (john taylor)
    10. 10:33 AM - Re: Re: Muchael (fox5flyer)
    11. 10:57 AM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs (dcsfoto)
    12. 11:25 AM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (Keith C.)
    13. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs (Bob Brennan)
    14. 12:13 PM - Re: Kitfox III Hardware (john beirne)
    15. 12:53 PM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (Tom Jones)
    16. 03:09 PM - Re: Floats for Kitfox II (Ken Potter)
    17. 03:21 PM - Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling (Ken Potter)
    18. 03:53 PM - Re: Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling (Bob Brennan)
    19. 04:02 PM - Re: Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground. (Pete Christensen)
    20. 04:19 PM - Re: Floats for Kitfox II (akflyer)
    21. 04:26 PM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
    22. 04:59 PM - Aluminum Wing Tanks (Dee Young)
    23. 05:25 PM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (Roger McConnell)
    24. 07:23 PM - Re: Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs (Larry Huntley)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:03:40 AM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Rain ... but no longer actual
    > From: John Allen [kitfoxfugit@yahoo.com] > I have flown in rain many times. Thank you for your answer, John. Friends, Sunday was a hot day and I was out with our sailboat when I got a heart attack followed by a cardiac arrest in the ambulance. In two days, I'll get a pacemaker. I am afraid that it looks like my flying days are over. Still - better alive on the ground that death ... under the ground. Best regards, Michel Verheughe Do not archive <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 08:01:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rain ... but no longer actual
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    Holy crap! Sorry to hear that you are having health issues, but DONT give up on flying this easy. You love it way to much to talk about tossing in the towel. Keep your spirits up and you will be back in the left seat in no time! -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195548#195548


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    Time: 08:27:01 AM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Re: Rain ... but no longer actual
    Hey, Michel. You should have stayed in bed! I'm really sorry to hear about the attack, but glad to hear that you'll still be able to talk to us here on the list. Those pacemakers work pretty well now that they have the bugs worked out of them. Now, if you can just get used to having a laptop hooked up to you every so often... Good luck, my friend. Deke do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:00 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Rain ... but no longer actual >> From: John Allen [kitfoxfugit@yahoo.com] >> I have flown in rain many times. > > Thank you for your answer, John. > > Friends, Sunday was a hot day and I was out with our sailboat when I got a > heart attack followed by a cardiac arrest in the ambulance. In two days, > I'll get a pacemaker. I am afraid that it looks like my flying days are > over. Still - better alive on the ground that death ... under the ground. > > Best regards, > Michel Verheughe > > Do not archive > > > <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com</a> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution</a> > > </b></font></pre>


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    Time: 08:42:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rain ... but no longer actual
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    Michael, I am very sorry to hear about that, from your posts here on the list it is clear that you are very passionate about flying. Having something like this is bad enough, but fortunately you don't have to let it end your flying. Trying to get a medical back from the FAA after something like this takes a long time, One could be dead of old age before getting his mecial back :( The good news is that you are still legal to fly Ultralights ! The Skyraider is a 103 legal ultralight that is basically a single seat scaled down Kitfox. You could legally fly one without a medical and it is a wonderful flying plane like the Kitfox is :) http://www.skyraiderllc.com/aircraft.htm Best of luck to you, and don't let this setback keep you down. Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195560#195560


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    Time: 09:06:51 AM PST US
    From: A H <lowandslow1@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling
    Just as a note for those with older wing tanks. My tanks were manufactured in Aug/95 and the internal slosh/sealer coating applied by the manufacture r is coming off in large pieces. Some are small flakes others are 3" x 4". My tanks have never had any fuel in them as the I am still under constructi on:(( . I noticed the peeling when I got one of the tanks out Friday to lo ok at it. Last year when I looked at the tanks=2C the coating was still ad hered=2C as far as I could tell. You can see through the semi-opaque fiber glass and see the flakes and hear them when you move the tank around. Check your finger strainers!!! Andy Series 5 TD _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile=2C your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_ 072008


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    Time: 09:27:22 AM PST US
    From: paul wilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
    Subject: Re: Muchael
    My tech councilor had thing same thing happen to him. He decided to have bypass surgery. He was grounded for about 6 months after the surgery. And had the EAA go to bat for him with the FAA. After more medical tests he got his license back. He drives a scratch built single seater. Don't give up on flying just yet. We know you can still fly given prudent med tests and proper care. Regards, Paul =====================


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    Time: 09:34:28 AM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling
    Andy, this is a very old problem and there are tons of entries in the archives. While you're checking those out, you needn't worry too much. What has happened is the old Kreem has delaminated because the mold release wasn't cleaned off before the tanks were factory sloshed. There's a fix (s). You're likely to get several different methods and opinions on what to do, but the bottom line is that you're OK, especially since you haven't installed the tanks. The simple fix is to use Acetone or MEK to remove the old Kreem slosh. Just put a couple gallons in the tank, plug the holes, and give it a good tumble. It'll take awhile, but the sheets of Kreem will dissolve. Here's where the options come in. You can reslosh with various products out there. Randolph and Kreem are both good ones. Try to find one that is impervious to ethanol. When you do the slosh, ensure it's thinned out so that it'll flow to all corners and crevices. Let it dry and you're good to go. Another method is to not reslosh at all! Some have done it that way and I haven't heard of any problems. In the archives, use key words like "slosh, kreem, etc." Good luck, Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: A H To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:03 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling Just as a note for those with older wing tanks. My tanks were manufactured in Aug/95 and the internal slosh/sealer coating applied by the manufacturer is coming off in large pieces. Some are small flakes others are 3" x 4". My tanks have never had any fuel in them as the I am still under construction:(( . I noticed the peeling when I got one of the tanks out Friday to look at it. Last year when I looked at the tanks, the coating was still adhered, as far as I could tell. You can see through the semi-opaque fiberglass and see the flakes and hear them when you move the tank around. Check your finger strainers!!! Andy Series 5 TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. Connect on the go.


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    Time: 09:57:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rain ... but no longer actual
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    Michael, One other thing that just came to mind... There are always lots of new kids with private pilots licenses that just want to fly, and build time. Just go to the local flight schools and put the word out that you lost your medical and that you are looking for a pilot to fly with you. They will be beating a path to your door, and you will be back flying your Kitfox by the end of the week :) Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195583#195583


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    Time: 10:03:24 AM PST US
    From: john taylor <jtayloraaf@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Rain ... but no longer actual
    hey michel, so sorry to hear this news. one never knows. probably get me ev en before i get my avid in the air. i know ur rules are different over ther e, but here's hoping u find a way back, if that's what u want. i echo the o ther coon ass on this list, leni, -now up in alaska, hang in there. i gre atly enjoyed reading ur varied & informative posts. pls keep us posted.- john bowman (prairieville, la- bldg avid) =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Messag e ----=0AFrom: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>=0ATo: kitfox-list@matron ics.com=0ASent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:00:00 AM=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: R ain ... but no longer actual=0A=0A> From: John Allen [kitfoxfugit@yahoo.com ] =0A> I have flown in rain many times. =0A=0AThank you for your answer, Jo hn.=0A=0AFriends, Sunday was a hot day and I was out with our sailboat when I got a heart attack followed by a cardiac arrest in the ambulance. In two days, I'll get a pacemaker. I am afraid that it looks like my flying days are over. Still - better alive on the ground that death ... under the groun d.=0A=0ABest regards,=0AMichel Verheughe=0A=0ADo not archive=0A=0A=0A<pre>< - --> <a href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com =====0A=0A</b></font></pre>=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 10:33:23 AM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Re: Muchael
    One thing you guys need to remember, Michel is from Norway. Different rules. Deke do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "paul wilson" <pwmac@sisna.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Muchael > > My tech councilor had thing same thing happen to him. He decided to have > bypass surgery. He was grounded for about 6 months after the surgery. And > had the EAA go to bat for him with the FAA. After more medical tests he > got his license back. He drives a scratch built single seater. > Don't give up on flying just yet. We know you can still fly given prudent > med tests and proper care. > Regards, Paul > ===================== > > >


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    Time: 10:57:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs
    From: "dcsfoto" <david@kelm.com>
    For a lot of us DARs it is a business. That is hoy I make my living. lets do not forget, we also pay taxes. in fact about 55% of what I charge goes to the state and uncle sam. That does not include the $1200 or so each year for the required FAA training. Also, when there is an accident the first to get called is the DAR who has to hear the FAA monday morning QB every detail of the certification. Getting my airplane certified was still cheaper than having my car AC repaired gust a few days ago. David Kitfox 7 & 3 FAA DAR Maintenance & Manufacturing Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195589#195589


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    Time: 11:25:40 AM PST US
    From: "Keith C." <kcflys@pacbell.net>
    Subject: Re: Rain ... but no longer actual
    Michel, I am extremely glad to hear you are still communicating with us. Your input and insight have always been a productive part of this list. You should know that wherever you go that there is a "Fox" from this list you will be welcome as a passenger at minimum. It should make us all aware of how fragile our situations can be. It is my hope and prayer that the medical powers that be can find a way to correct what is needed and get you back in the left seat. Keith C. Mod IV 912 IVO Mather (MHR) CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Rain ... but no longer actual >> From: John Allen [kitfoxfugit@yahoo.com] >> I have flown in rain many times. > > Thank you for your answer, John. > > Friends, Sunday was a hot day and I was out with our sailboat when I got a > heart attack followed by a cardiac arrest in the ambulance. In two days, > I'll get a pacemaker. I am afraid that it looks like my flying days are > over. Still - better alive on the ground that death ... under the ground. > > Best regards, > Michel Verheughe > > Do not archive > > > <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com</a> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution</a> > > </b></font></pre>


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    Time: 11:44:12 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
    Subject: Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs
    Thanks for that perspective Dave. I have decided not to question my DAR's fees, as I said he is well respected by everyone I spoke to. At the moment I am waiting for him to get confirmation from the CAA (UK FAA) that my plane has never had an Airworthiness Certificate (one of the requirements for getting Light Sport). I had already gotten this information for him but he needs it first hand to file with the documentation. So far he seems to be of the attitude "do whatever needs to be done", and I may not find that in a DAR who doesn't do it for a living. Of course there are those parts for his old Fleet biplane he is restoring... No doubt soon to be paid for by me! Hope he at least gives me a ride in it... ;-) Bob Brennan 1991 UK Model 2 Kitfox Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop Wrightsville Pa -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dcsfoto Sent: 29 July 2008 1:54 pm Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs For a lot of us DARs it is a business. That is hoy I make my living. lets do not forget, we also pay taxes. in fact about 55% of what I charge goes to the state and uncle sam. That does not include the $1200 or so each year for the required FAA training. Also, when there is an accident the first to get called is the DAR who has to hear the FAA monday morning QB every detail of the certification. Getting my airplane certified was still cheaper than having my car AC repaired gust a few days ago. David Kitfox 7 & 3 FAA DAR Maintenance & Manufacturing Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195589#195589


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    Time: 12:13:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kitfox III Hardware
    From: "john beirne" <jmcb@oceanfree.net>
    Many thanks for the replies guys, To determine the part no of each rod end would require removal and measuring Perhaps there s someone who has done this already and still has the part Nos handy? Many thanks in advance. John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195597#195597


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    Time: 12:53:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rain ... but no longer actual
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    Michael, Sorry to hear you are having this problem. I remember well all the trials and tribulations you went through when you first bought your kitfox. You know you and your stories on this list were the inspiration for me to finally get the training and start flying my Kitfox. I waited six years after I finished building it to finally fly. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195601#195601


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    Time: 03:09:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Floats for Kitfox II
    From: "Ken Potter" <kjpotter@sympatico.ca>
    Thanks for the replies folks. Akflyer I have heard similar comments about performance at full gross from one of our EAA chapter members who has a similar Kitfox to mine. While I do plan to upgrade the engine (probably to a Jabiru 2200) it won't be until daughter # 2 completes college in 5 years. Anyways, the search for floats continues. A couple of weeks ago I just missed a set of Zenair (Czech) 950 amphibs on Barnstormers.com. My calculations show that 950's would be enough for a Kitfox II however these seem small in comparison to other peoples experience. Does anyone have any experience with floats other than Full Lotus??? Cheers and thanks in advance Ken Potter Kitfox II Rotax 582 C box 98% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195627#195627


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    Time: 03:21:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling
    From: "Ken Potter" <kjpotter@sympatico.ca>
    Now I'm a little worried. I bought my kitfox II last year about 90% complete. The tanks were installed by the previous builder in 1994. I will be ready for test flying in early spring 09. Should I be worried; ie; should I borascope the tanks??? Ken Potter Kitfox II 483 Rotax 582 c box Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195628#195628


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    Time: 03:53:26 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
    Subject: Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling
    Ken - I have a similar Model 2 but it's been flying since 1991. Do you know if the wing tank(s) is aluminum or plastic? The aluminum (mine) tanks all fail on the leading edge and leak, and Kitfox even had a trade-in program to replace them. I recently acid-etched and "Kreem"ed mine, and I expect to have to do it on a regular basis. Mine had many areas flaked off and the tank leaked when I bought the plane, the previous owner simply said "I don't use the wing tank". Bob Brennan 1991 UK Model 2 Kitfox Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop Wrightsville Pa -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Potter Sent: 29 July 2008 6:18 pm Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling Now I'm a little worried. I bought my kitfox II last year about 90% complete. The tanks were installed by the previous builder in 1994. I will be ready for test flying in early spring 09. Should I be worried; ie; should I borascope the tanks??? Ken Potter Kitfox II 483 Rotax 582 c box Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195628#195628


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    Time: 04:02:26 PM PST US
    From: "Pete Christensen" <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground.
    Jeff, There is a Kitfox I on Barnstormers right now. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Dill" <1dillfamily@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 3:39 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground. > <1dillfamily@comcast.net> > > The damage to my airplane includes both gear and substantial damage to the > lower fuselage. The wings did not touch. The prop = smithereens. I towed > it to a local A&P welder today and he felt the fuselage repair was beyond > his scope due to not having a jig to assure all is straight when finished. > Besides the obvious, the right door does not clear the post when closing > like it used to, so we know there are issues of straightness. It is > looking like the pragmatic thing to do does not include fixing that > fuselage. Maybe there is a straight one around, or maybe I will just take > the insurance check and turn around and buy another ready to go. I have to > think that given enough bananas ... > > -------- > Jeff Dill > Model 2 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193693#193693 > > >


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    Time: 04:19:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Floats for Kitfox II
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    We originally flew my brothers KF II on a set of Northstar clones that were scaled down and built with fiberglass. I did a 3D model of them and they showed about 880# each. They did OK until one of them took on a little water and got the foam heavy. They would get you out of the water quicker than the full lotus, but one little bump and they took on water.. I would much rather have too much float than not enough. I saw a set of zenair 1150 on barnstormers that look good. Also a set of puddle jumpers that would be great if you only want to play on water. I like the ruggedness of the full lotus and will take the hit on performance for safety. I am biased as I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I owe my life to a set of them. Without 16 airbags under me I would have been planted in a frozen field. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195644#195644


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    Time: 04:26:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rain ... but no longer actual
    From: gary.algate@sandvik.com
    Michel About 1 week before we were scheduled to leave Canada for Australia my wife (50yrs old) suffered a heart attack and ended up having an emergency triple by-pass. She was, and still is an active jogger and in great health. She recovered fully and leads a total normal life now - she also doesn't fly now - but then again she couldn't before! Hopefully this will just be a glitch in your recreational flying. Best wishes and get well soon Gary Gary Algate SMC, Exploration Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655 This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may arise as a result of the e-mail transmission. Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com 29/07/2008 11:44 PM Please respond to kitfox-list@matronics.com To <kitfox-list@matronics.com> cc Subject Kitfox-List: Rain ... but no longer actual > From: John Allen [kitfoxfugit@yahoo.com] > I have flown in rain many times. Thank you for your answer, John. Friends, Sunday was a hot day and I was out with our sailboat when I got a heart attack followed by a cardiac arrest in the ambulance. In two days, I'll get a pacemaker. I am afraid that it looks like my flying days are over. Still - better alive on the ground that death ... under the ground. Best regards, Michel Verheughe Do not archive <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> ">http://forums.matronics.com</a> ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution</a> </b></font></pre>


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    Time: 04:59:55 PM PST US
    From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
    Subject: Aluminum Wing Tanks
    I built my Model II with aluminum tanks and they are fine and require no sloshing compound. Inspect the plane but don't be afraid of aluminum tanks. If they are not leaking you may never have a problem. I was told by the "boys at the factory" that many of the problems with the aluminum tanks were self inflicted by the builders. I had both aluminum and fiberglass with the kit. I sold the fiberglass tanks on Ebay. Dee Young Model II N345DY Do not archive


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    Time: 05:25:16 PM PST US
    From: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
    Subject: Rain ... but no longer actual
    Michel, I too am truly sorry to hear of your health issues. Please don't give up too quick on flying. We all know how much you love it. I will say a special prayer for you at my church this Sunday. Best Wishes Roger McConnell, Duncan, OK Model 7 Trigear, Rotax 912uls Flying sense Jan. 06 DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel Verheughe Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:00 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Rain ... but no longer actual > From: John Allen [kitfoxfugit@yahoo.com] > I have flown in rain many times. Thank you for your answer, John. Friends, Sunday was a hot day and I was out with our sailboat when I got a heart attack followed by a cardiac arrest in the ambulance. In two days, I'll get a pacemaker. I am afraid that it looks like my flying days are over. Still - better alive on the ground that death ... under the ground. Best regards, Michel Verheughe Do not archive <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com</a> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri bution</a> </b></font></pre>


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    Time: 07:23:57 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Huntley" <asq@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs
    Well stated David. It would do many of us well to think about that. Larry (who is about to have his a/c fixed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "dcsfoto" <david@kelm.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:54 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs > > For a lot of us DARs it is a business. That is hoy I make my living. > lets do not forget, we also pay taxes. in fact about 55% of what I charge > goes to the state and uncle sam. > That does not include the $1200 or so each year for the required FAA > training. > Also, when there is an accident the first to get called is the DAR who has > to hear the FAA monday morning QB every detail of the certification. > > Getting my airplane certified was still cheaper than having my car AC > repaired > gust a few days ago. > > > David > Kitfox 7 & 3 > FAA DAR Maintenance & Manufacturing > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195589#195589 > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > 5:26 PM > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com




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