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1. 07:03 AM - Rain ... but no longer actual (Michel Verheughe)
2. 08:01 AM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (akflyer)
3. 08:27 AM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (fox5flyer)
4. 08:42 AM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (JetPilot)
5. 09:06 AM - Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling (A H)
6. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: Muchael (paul wilson)
7. 09:34 AM - Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling (fox5flyer)
8. 09:57 AM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (JetPilot)
9. 10:03 AM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (john taylor)
10. 10:33 AM - Re: Re: Muchael (fox5flyer)
11. 10:57 AM - Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs (dcsfoto)
12. 11:25 AM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (Keith C.)
13. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs (Bob Brennan)
14. 12:13 PM - Re: Kitfox III Hardware (john beirne)
15. 12:53 PM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (Tom Jones)
16. 03:09 PM - Re: Floats for Kitfox II (Ken Potter)
17. 03:21 PM - Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling (Ken Potter)
18. 03:53 PM - Re: Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling (Bob Brennan)
19. 04:02 PM - Re: Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground. (Pete Christensen)
20. 04:19 PM - Re: Floats for Kitfox II (akflyer)
21. 04:26 PM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
22. 04:59 PM - Aluminum Wing Tanks (Dee Young)
23. 05:25 PM - Re: Rain ... but no longer actual (Roger McConnell)
24. 07:23 PM - Re: Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs (Larry Huntley)
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Subject: | Rain ... but no longer actual |
> From: John Allen [kitfoxfugit@yahoo.com]
> I have flown in rain many times.
Thank you for your answer, John.
Friends, Sunday was a hot day and I was out with our sailboat when I got a heart
attack followed by a cardiac arrest in the ambulance. In two days, I'll get
a pacemaker. I am afraid that it looks like my flying days are over. Still - better
alive on the ground that death ... under the ground.
Best regards,
Michel Verheughe
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Subject: | Re: Rain ... but no longer actual |
Holy crap! Sorry to hear that you are having health issues, but DONT give up on
flying this easy. You love it way to much to talk about tossing in the towel.
Keep your spirits up and you will be back in the left seat in no time!
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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Subject: | Re: Rain ... but no longer actual |
Hey, Michel. You should have stayed in bed! I'm really sorry to hear about
the attack, but glad to hear that you'll still be able to talk to us here on
the list. Those pacemakers work pretty well now that they have the bugs
worked out of them. Now, if you can just get used to having a laptop hooked
up to you every so often...
Good luck, my friend.
Deke
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:00 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Rain ... but no longer actual
>> From: John Allen [kitfoxfugit@yahoo.com]
>> I have flown in rain many times.
>
> Thank you for your answer, John.
>
> Friends, Sunday was a hot day and I was out with our sailboat when I got a
> heart attack followed by a cardiac arrest in the ambulance. In two days,
> I'll get a pacemaker. I am afraid that it looks like my flying days are
> over. Still - better alive on the ground that death ... under the ground.
>
> Best regards,
> Michel Verheughe
>
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Subject: | Re: Rain ... but no longer actual |
Michael,
I am very sorry to hear about that, from your posts here on the list it is clear
that you are very passionate about flying. Having something like this is bad
enough, but fortunately you don't have to let it end your flying. Trying to
get a medical back from the FAA after something like this takes a long time,
One could be dead of old age before getting his mecial back :( The good news
is that you are still legal to fly Ultralights ! The Skyraider is a 103 legal
ultralight that is basically a single seat scaled down Kitfox. You could legally
fly one without a medical and it is a wonderful flying plane like the Kitfox
is :)
http://www.skyraiderllc.com/aircraft.htm
Best of luck to you, and don't let this setback keep you down.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
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Subject: | Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling |
Just as a note for those with older wing tanks. My tanks were manufactured
in Aug/95 and the internal slosh/sealer coating applied by the manufacture
r is coming off in large pieces. Some are small flakes others are 3" x 4".
My tanks have never had any fuel in them as the I am still under constructi
on:(( . I noticed the peeling when I got one of the tanks out Friday to lo
ok at it. Last year when I looked at the tanks=2C the coating was still ad
hered=2C as far as I could tell. You can see through the semi-opaque fiber
glass and see the flakes and hear them when you move the tank around.
Check your finger strainers!!!
Andy
Series 5 TD
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My tech councilor had thing same thing happen to him. He decided to
have bypass surgery. He was grounded for about 6 months after the
surgery. And had the EAA go to bat for him with the FAA. After more
medical tests he got his license back. He drives a scratch built single seater.
Don't give up on flying just yet. We know you can still fly given
prudent med tests and proper care.
Regards, Paul
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Subject: | Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling |
Andy, this is a very old problem and there are tons of entries in the
archives. While you're checking those out, you needn't worry too much.
What has happened is the old Kreem has delaminated because the mold
release wasn't cleaned off before the tanks were factory sloshed.
There's a fix (s). You're likely to get several different methods and
opinions on what to do, but the bottom line is that you're OK,
especially since you haven't installed the tanks. The simple fix is to
use Acetone or MEK to remove the old Kreem slosh. Just put a couple
gallons in the tank, plug the holes, and give it a good tumble. It'll
take awhile, but the sheets of Kreem will dissolve. Here's where the
options come in. You can reslosh with various products out there.
Randolph and Kreem are both good ones. Try to find one that is
impervious to ethanol. When you do the slosh, ensure it's thinned out
so that it'll flow to all corners and crevices. Let it dry and you're
good to go. Another method is to not reslosh at all! Some have done it
that way and I haven't heard of any problems. In the archives, use key
words like "slosh, kreem, etc."
Good luck,
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: A H
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:03 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling
Just as a note for those with older wing tanks. My tanks were
manufactured in Aug/95 and the internal slosh/sealer coating applied by
the manufacturer is coming off in large pieces. Some are small flakes
others are 3" x 4".
My tanks have never had any fuel in them as the I am still under
construction:(( . I noticed the peeling when I got one of the tanks out
Friday to look at it. Last year when I looked at the tanks, the coating
was still adhered, as far as I could tell. You can see through the
semi-opaque fiberglass and see the flakes and hear them when you move
the tank around.
Check your finger strainers!!!
Andy
Series 5 TD
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Subject: | Re: Rain ... but no longer actual |
Michael,
One other thing that just came to mind... There are always lots of new kids with
private pilots licenses that just want to fly, and build time. Just go to
the local flight schools and put the word out that you lost your medical and that
you are looking for a pilot to fly with you. They will be beating a path
to your door, and you will be back flying your Kitfox by the end of the week
:)
Mike
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have !!!
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Subject: | Re: Rain ... but no longer actual |
hey michel, so sorry to hear this news. one never knows. probably get me ev
en before i get my avid in the air. i know ur rules are different over ther
e, but here's hoping u find a way back, if that's what u want. i echo the o
ther coon ass on this list, leni, -now up in alaska, hang in there. i gre
atly enjoyed reading ur varied & informative posts. pls keep us posted.-
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ain ... but no longer actual=0A=0A> From: John Allen [kitfoxfugit@yahoo.com
] =0A> I have flown in rain many times. =0A=0AThank you for your answer, Jo
hn.=0A=0AFriends, Sunday was a hot day and I was out with our sailboat when
I got a heart attack followed by a cardiac arrest in the ambulance. In two
days, I'll get a pacemaker. I am afraid that it looks like my flying days
are over. Still - better alive on the ground that death ... under the groun
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One thing you guys need to remember, Michel is from Norway. Different
rules.
Deke
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----- Original Message -----
From: "paul wilson" <pwmac@sisna.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Muchael
>
> My tech councilor had thing same thing happen to him. He decided to have
> bypass surgery. He was grounded for about 6 months after the surgery. And
> had the EAA go to bat for him with the FAA. After more medical tests he
> got his license back. He drives a scratch built single seater.
> Don't give up on flying just yet. We know you can still fly given prudent
> med tests and proper care.
> Regards, Paul
> =====================
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs |
For a lot of us DARs it is a business. That is hoy I make my living.
lets do not forget, we also pay taxes. in fact about 55% of what I charge goes
to the state and uncle sam.
That does not include the $1200 or so each year for the required FAA training.
Also, when there is an accident the first to get called is the DAR who has to hear
the FAA monday morning QB every detail of the certification.
Getting my airplane certified was still cheaper than having my car AC repaired
gust a few days ago.
David
Kitfox 7 & 3
FAA DAR Maintenance & Manufacturing
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Subject: | Re: Rain ... but no longer actual |
Michel,
I am extremely glad to hear you are still communicating with us. Your input
and insight have always been a productive part of this list.
You should know that wherever you go that there is a "Fox" from this list
you will be welcome as a passenger at minimum.
It should make us all aware of how fragile our situations can be.
It is my hope and prayer that the medical powers that be can find a way to
correct what is needed and get you back in the left seat.
Keith C.
Mod IV 912 IVO
Mather (MHR) CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Rain ... but no longer actual
>> From: John Allen [kitfoxfugit@yahoo.com]
>> I have flown in rain many times.
>
> Thank you for your answer, John.
>
> Friends, Sunday was a hot day and I was out with our sailboat when I got a
> heart attack followed by a cardiac arrest in the ambulance. In two days,
> I'll get a pacemaker. I am afraid that it looks like my flying days are
> over. Still - better alive on the ground that death ... under the ground.
>
> Best regards,
> Michel Verheughe
>
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Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs |
Thanks for that perspective Dave. I have decided not to question my DAR's
fees, as I said he is well respected by everyone I spoke to. At the moment I
am waiting for him to get confirmation from the CAA (UK FAA) that my plane
has never had an Airworthiness Certificate (one of the requirements for
getting Light Sport). I had already gotten this information for him but he
needs it first hand to file with the documentation. So far he seems to be of
the attitude "do whatever needs to be done", and I may not find that in a
DAR who doesn't do it for a living. Of course there are those parts for his
old Fleet biplane he is restoring... No doubt soon to be paid for by me!
Hope he at least gives me a ride in it... ;-)
Bob Brennan
1991 UK Model 2 Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dcsfoto
Sent: 29 July 2008 1:54 pm
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs
For a lot of us DARs it is a business. That is hoy I make my living.
lets do not forget, we also pay taxes. in fact about 55% of what I charge
goes to the state and uncle sam.
That does not include the $1200 or so each year for the required FAA
training.
Also, when there is an accident the first to get called is the DAR who has
to hear the FAA monday morning QB every detail of the certification.
Getting my airplane certified was still cheaper than having my car AC
repaired
gust a few days ago.
David
Kitfox 7 & 3
FAA DAR Maintenance & Manufacturing
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Subject: | Re: Kitfox III Hardware |
Many thanks for the replies guys,
To determine the part no of each rod end would require removal and measuring
Perhaps there s someone who has done this already and still has the part Nos handy?
Many thanks in advance.
John
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Subject: | Re: Rain ... but no longer actual |
Michael,
Sorry to hear you are having this problem. I remember well all the trials and
tribulations you went through when you first bought your kitfox. You know you
and your stories on this list were the inspiration for me to finally get the
training and start flying my Kitfox. I waited six years after I finished building
it to finally fly.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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Subject: | Re: Floats for Kitfox II |
Thanks for the replies folks.
Akflyer I have heard similar comments about performance at full gross from one
of our EAA chapter members who has a similar Kitfox to mine. While I do plan
to upgrade the engine (probably to a Jabiru 2200) it won't be until daughter #
2 completes college in 5 years. Anyways, the search for floats continues.
A couple of weeks ago I just missed a set of Zenair (Czech) 950 amphibs on Barnstormers.com.
My calculations show that 950's would be enough for a Kitfox II
however these seem small in comparison to other peoples experience. Does anyone
have any experience with floats other than Full Lotus???
Cheers and thanks in advance
Ken Potter
Kitfox II
Rotax 582 C box
98% complete
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Subject: | Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling |
Now I'm a little worried. I bought my kitfox II last year about 90% complete.
The tanks were installed by the previous builder in 1994. I will be ready for
test flying in early spring 09. Should I be worried; ie; should I borascope
the tanks???
Ken Potter
Kitfox II 483
Rotax 582 c box
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Subject: | Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling |
Ken - I have a similar Model 2 but it's been flying since 1991. Do you know
if the wing tank(s) is aluminum or plastic? The aluminum (mine) tanks all
fail on the leading edge and leak, and Kitfox even had a trade-in program to
replace them. I recently acid-etched and "Kreem"ed mine, and I expect to
have to do it on a regular basis. Mine had many areas flaked off and the
tank leaked when I bought the plane, the previous owner simply said "I don't
use the wing tank".
Bob Brennan
1991 UK Model 2 Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 29 July 2008 6:18 pm
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling
Now I'm a little worried. I bought my kitfox II last year about 90%
complete. The tanks were installed by the previous builder in 1994. I will
be ready for test flying in early spring 09. Should I be worried; ie;
should I borascope the tanks???
Ken Potter
Kitfox II 483
Rotax 582 c box
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Subject: | Re: Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground. |
Jeff,
There is a Kitfox I on Barnstormers right now.
Pete
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From: "Jeffrey Dill" <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 3:39 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the
ground.
> <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
>
> The damage to my airplane includes both gear and substantial damage to the
> lower fuselage. The wings did not touch. The prop = smithereens. I towed
> it to a local A&P welder today and he felt the fuselage repair was beyond
> his scope due to not having a jig to assure all is straight when finished.
> Besides the obvious, the right door does not clear the post when closing
> like it used to, so we know there are issues of straightness. It is
> looking like the pragmatic thing to do does not include fixing that
> fuselage. Maybe there is a straight one around, or maybe I will just take
> the insurance check and turn around and buy another ready to go. I have to
> think that given enough bananas ...
>
> --------
> Jeff Dill
> Model 2
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Subject: | Re: Floats for Kitfox II |
We originally flew my brothers KF II on a set of Northstar clones that were scaled
down and built with fiberglass. I did a 3D model of them and they showed
about 880# each. They did OK until one of them took on a little water and got
the foam heavy. They would get you out of the water quicker than the full lotus,
but one little bump and they took on water..
I would much rather have too much float than not enough. I saw a set of zenair
1150 on barnstormers that look good. Also a set of puddle jumpers that would
be great if you only want to play on water. I like the ruggedness of the full
lotus and will take the hit on performance for safety. I am biased as I can
say without a shadow of a doubt that I owe my life to a set of them. Without
16 airbags under me I would have been planted in a frozen field.
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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Subject: | Re: Rain ... but no longer actual |
Michel
About 1 week before we were scheduled to leave Canada for Australia my
wife (50yrs old) suffered a heart attack and ended up having an emergency
triple by-pass. She was, and still is an active jogger and in great
health.
She recovered fully and leads a total normal life now - she also doesn't
fly now - but then again she couldn't before!
Hopefully this will just be a glitch in your recreational flying.
Best wishes and get well soon
Gary
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> From: John Allen [kitfoxfugit@yahoo.com]
> I have flown in rain many times.
Thank you for your answer, John.
Friends, Sunday was a hot day and I was out with our sailboat when I got a
heart attack followed by a cardiac arrest in the ambulance. In two days,
I'll get a pacemaker. I am afraid that it looks like my flying days are
over. Still - better alive on the ground that death ... under the ground.
Best regards,
Michel Verheughe
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Subject: | Aluminum Wing Tanks |
I built my Model II with aluminum tanks and they are fine and require no
sloshing compound. Inspect the plane but don't be afraid of aluminum
tanks. If they are not leaking you may never have a problem. I was told
by the "boys at the factory" that many of the problems with the aluminum
tanks were self inflicted by the builders. I had both aluminum and
fiberglass with the kit. I sold the fiberglass tanks on Ebay.
Dee Young
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Subject: | Rain ... but no longer actual |
Michel,
I too am truly sorry to hear of your health issues. Please don't
give up too quick on flying. We all know how much you love it. I will say a
special prayer for you at my church this Sunday.
Best Wishes
Roger McConnell, Duncan, OK
Model 7 Trigear, Rotax 912uls
Flying sense Jan. 06
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Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:00 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Rain ... but no longer actual
> From: John Allen [kitfoxfugit@yahoo.com]
> I have flown in rain many times.
Thank you for your answer, John.
Friends, Sunday was a hot day and I was out with our sailboat when I got a
heart attack followed by a cardiac arrest in the ambulance. In two days,
I'll get a pacemaker. I am afraid that it looks like my flying days are
over. Still - better alive on the ground that death ... under the ground.
Best regards,
Michel Verheughe
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Subject: | Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs |
Well stated David. It would do many of us well to think about that. Larry
(who is about to have his a/c fixed.
----- Original Message -----
From: "dcsfoto" <david@kelm.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:54 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Airworthiness Certificate, and DARs
>
> For a lot of us DARs it is a business. That is hoy I make my living.
> lets do not forget, we also pay taxes. in fact about 55% of what I charge
> goes to the state and uncle sam.
> That does not include the $1200 or so each year for the required FAA
> training.
> Also, when there is an accident the first to get called is the DAR who has
> to hear the FAA monday morning QB every detail of the certification.
>
> Getting my airplane certified was still cheaper than having my car AC
> repaired
> gust a few days ago.
>
>
> David
> Kitfox 7 & 3
> FAA DAR Maintenance & Manufacturing
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195589#195589
>
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> 5:26 PM
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