Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Thu 07/31/08


Total Messages Posted: 20



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     1. 04:44 AM - Re: Flying in the rain (FlyboyTR)
     2. 06:48 AM - Re: First flight (Tom Jones)
     3. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: First flight (Bob Brennan)
     4. 08:58 AM - Re: Re: First flight (Pete Christensen)
     5. 09:03 AM - Re: Re: First flight (Pete Christensen)
     6. 09:10 AM - Re: First flight (skyring)
     7. 09:53 AM - Re: Re: First flight (Pete Christensen)
     8. 10:08 AM - Wanted: Kitfox IV - 1200 (Aluminum Flyer)
     9. 11:43 AM - Re: Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling (Marco Menezes)
    10. 12:01 PM - Re: Re: First flight (lkc@juno.com)
    11. 12:23 PM - Re: Re: First flight (Bob Brennan)
    12. 12:37 PM - Re: First flight (akflyer)
    13. 02:07 PM - Re: Re: First flight (Pete Christensen)
    14. 02:49 PM - Re: Re: Heavy stick for aileron's (Pete Christensen)
    15. 06:12 PM - Re: Re: Heavy stick for aileron's (steve eccles)
    16. 06:17 PM - Back from Oshkosh... (Lynn Matteson)
    17. 06:38 PM - Re: First flight (Randy Daughenbaugh)
    18. 07:53 PM - Re: Heavy stick for aileron's (dave)
    19. 08:43 PM - Re: Heavy stick for aileron's (FlyboyTR)
    20. 09:06 PM - To Lynn . (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:44:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flying in the rain
    From: "FlyboyTR" <flyboytr@bellsouth.net>
    It wasn't too bad. I could tell when I hit the outflow because the air temp dropped about 7-10 degrees. Once that started it got a little rough. I could still see through the rain. I don't mind flying close to ugly weather as long as there is no active lightening. ...and again...I need to see through the rain! Also having the NexRad weather data "really" helps! To the right of my position, and just off the screen, was nothing but a wall of level 5 weather that was about 40 miles long...no where to go! Living on the Gulf Coast and next to Mobile Bay creates some interesting weather...fortunately it is very predictable...most of the time! Travis :) -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop ADI-II Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195846#195846


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    Time: 06:48:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: First flight
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    Kerry, My total tail wheel time when I first flew my Kitfox was 20 hours dual instruction. My first flight was from a 150 foot wide runway and I used most of that width on take off. It is very easy to over control by inputing too much rudder. My prop turns left so the airplane went right when the tail came up, I pushed too much left rudder and swerved back accross the centerline. The second flight I used a lot less width because I could anticipate how the plane would react and how much rudder to input. About the first five hours I limited myself to flying in no wind conditions only. Not even wind aligned with the runway. Then I graduated to five mph with no cross wind then five mph cross wind etc. To answer your question about tail wheel spring tension. My tail wheel is a Maul. The chains are adjusted loose enough so that there is no tension on the springs but not loose enough that the chains sag. It handles really well. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195857#195857


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    Time: 07:03:54 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
    Subject: Re: First flight
    Tom - I had the same problem transitioning from many years of flying spam cans to my taildragging Kitfox. I was trying to use calculated *pressure* on the rudder pedal to compensate for perceived drifting, but it never worked! My instructor solved the problem by teaching me the taildragger "dance" - pump the pedals all the time while on the ground and pump more for the direction you want to go. It takes some practice but it works. Watch any video of a taildragger landing or taking off - the rudder will be wagging like a happy puppy. Just remember - they're not footrests in a taildragger! Bob Brennan 1991 UK Model 2 Kitfox Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop Wrightsville Pa -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones Sent: 31 July 2008 9:45 am Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: First flight Kerry, My total tail wheel time when I first flew my Kitfox was 20 hours dual instruction. My first flight was from a 150 foot wide runway and I used most of that width on take off. It is very easy to over control by inputing too much rudder. My prop turns left so the airplane went right when the tail came up, I pushed too much left rudder and swerved back accross the centerline. The second flight I used a lot less width because I could anticipate how the plane would react and how much rudder to input. About the first five hours I limited myself to flying in no wind conditions only. Not even wind aligned with the runway. Then I graduated to five mph with no cross wind then five mph cross wind etc. To answer your question about tail wheel spring tension. My tail wheel is a Maul. The chains are adjusted loose enough so that there is no tension on the springs but not loose enough that the chains sag. It handles really well. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195857#195857


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    Time: 08:58:15 AM PST US
    From: "Pete Christensen" <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: First flight
    Kerry, I second what Tom said. I only had about 6 hours recent tail dragger time and another 7 or so hours in a 172 and a couple hours in a Skyranger during the 7 months preceding flying my Kitfox III home about 320 miles. Prior to that I hadn't flown since 1979 and then only about 12 hours tail dragger time and only an hour of that was PIC time. My first takeoff was from a 100' wide runway and I was only getting 3900 rpm from my 912 (that's another story) so the takeoff roll seemed like forever. I used up a bunch of runway width. My first Kitfox landing was a couple hours later and 4 bounces and used up plenty of runway width. My second takeoff was fine since I knew what to expect and my second landing was good. I too only fly on good days and from an airport with 3 runways so there is almost always no crosswind when I land. I have 35 +/- hours in my Fox and I will not fly to an airport unless the winds are fairly straight down the runway. I'm starting to get a better feel so as my skills improve I'll be able to handle crosswinds. My tail wheel springs are just snug. Not loose. Pete Hell Paso, TX (flying out of Las Cruces, NM KLRU) Kitfox III, 912ul, Grove ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:45 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: First flight > > Kerry, > My total tail wheel time when I first flew my Kitfox was 20 hours dual > instruction. My first flight was from a 150 foot wide runway and I used > most of that width on take off. It is very easy to over control by > inputing too much rudder. My prop turns left so the airplane went right > when the tail came up, I pushed too much left rudder and swerved back > accross the centerline. > > The second flight I used a lot less width because I could anticipate how > the plane would react and how much rudder to input. > > About the first five hours I limited myself to flying in no wind > conditions only. Not even wind aligned with the runway. Then I graduated > to five mph with no cross wind then five mph cross wind etc. > > To answer your question about tail wheel spring tension. My tail wheel is > a Maul. The chains are adjusted loose enough so that there is no tension > on the springs but not loose enough that the chains sag. It handles > really well. > > -------- > Tom Jones > Classic IV > 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp > Ellensburg, WA > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195857#195857 > > >


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    Time: 09:03:20 AM PST US
    From: "Pete Christensen" <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: First flight
    I find that my feet are rock steady on takeoff and real busy on landing. Pete Hell Paso, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:01 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: First flight > <matronics@bob.brennan.name> > > Tom - I had the same problem transitioning from many years of flying spam > cans to my taildragging Kitfox. I was trying to use calculated *pressure* > on > the rudder pedal to compensate for perceived drifting, but it never > worked! > My instructor solved the problem by teaching me the taildragger "dance" - > pump the pedals all the time while on the ground and pump more for the > direction you want to go. It takes some practice but it works. Watch any > video of a taildragger landing or taking off - the rudder will be wagging > like a happy puppy. Just remember - they're not footrests in a > taildragger! > > Bob Brennan > 1991 UK Model 2 Kitfox > Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop > Wrightsville Pa > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones > Sent: 31 July 2008 9:45 am > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: First flight > > > Kerry, > My total tail wheel time when I first flew my Kitfox was 20 hours dual > instruction. My first flight was from a 150 foot wide runway and I used > most of that width on take off. It is very easy to over control by > inputing > too much rudder. My prop turns left so the airplane went right when the > tail came up, I pushed too much left rudder and swerved back accross the > centerline. > > The second flight I used a lot less width because I could anticipate how > the > plane would react and how much rudder to input. > > About the first five hours I limited myself to flying in no wind > conditions > only. Not even wind aligned with the runway. Then I graduated to five > mph > with no cross wind then five mph cross wind etc. > > To answer your question about tail wheel spring tension. My tail wheel is > a > Maul. The chains are adjusted loose enough so that there is no tension on > the springs but not loose enough that the chains sag. It handles really > well. > > -------- > Tom Jones > Classic IV > 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp > Ellensburg, WA > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195857#195857 > > >


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    Time: 09:10:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: First flight
    From: "skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
    Hi Tom and Pete, thanks for the input. It matches what I am experiencing. I have about 500 hours on tail draggers but the Kitfox, at least the way this one is configured, is the most directionally sensitive I have flown. It has helped by putting a bit of slack into the spring and chain. This seems to allow some directional control with rudder before the tailwheel starts to become the main steering method (with tail on the ground). I think I'm just used to a much looser/slacker tail wheel set up. The aeroplane actually tracks perfectly - it's only when I start the "tailwheel" tap dance that things get a bit lively. More landings will help. Storms here tonight so I'm grounded til Sunday. Kerry Vienna Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195876#195876


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    Time: 09:53:06 AM PST US
    From: "Pete Christensen" <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: First flight
    Be careful with the slack springs. You need to bend them to make sure they won't come loose. If they do come loose you will have NO control at slow speed. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:08 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: First flight > > Hi Tom and Pete, thanks for the input. It matches what I am experiencing. > I have about 500 hours on tail draggers but the Kitfox, at least the way > this one is configured, is the most directionally sensitive I have flown. > > It has helped by putting a bit of slack into the spring and chain. This > seems to allow some directional control with rudder before the tailwheel > starts to become the main steering method (with tail on the ground). > > I think I'm just used to a much looser/slacker tail wheel set up. The > aeroplane actually tracks perfectly - it's only when I start the > "tailwheel" tap dance that things get a bit lively. > > More landings will help. Storms here tonight so I'm grounded til Sunday. > Kerry > Vienna > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195876#195876 > > >


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    Time: 10:08:21 AM PST US
    From: "Aluminum Flyer" <aluminum.flyer@gmail.com>
    Subject: Wanted: Kitfox IV - 1200
    Hello everyone, Many moons ago I lurked on this list dreaming of a Kitfox. Since then I begun my aviation career and have been a certified airplane owner since 2002. I am once again dreaming of a Kitfox. After discussions with friends/owners I am looking at finding my airplane. Looking for a model IV-1200 on wheels or floats or amphibs. If anyone knows of a already flying animal forsale or very near completion or slightly damaged then please give me a shout. Enea Grande (204) 252-2156 - HM (204) 428-2568 - WK aluminum.flyer@gmail.com Many thanks.


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    Time: 11:43:14 AM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling
    Ken, - Have a peek inside those tanks. It may not be a problem for you. My model 2 tanks are of about the same vintage as yours and (knock wood) I've-had n o problems. So far. But the advice to remove and check your finger strainer s at least annually is certainly sound. - Marco Menezes N99KX Model 2 582-90 C-Box - --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Ken Potter <kjpotter@sympatico.ca> wrote: From: Ken Potter <kjpotter@sympatico.ca> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Wing Tank Fuel Coating- Peeling <kjpotter@sympatico.ca> Now I'm a little worried. I bought my kitfox II last year about 90% complete. The tanks were installed by the previous builder in 1994. I will be ready for test flying in early spring 09. Should I be worried; ie; should I borascope the tanks??? Ken Potter Kitfox II 483 Rotax 582 c box Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195628#195628 =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 12:01:23 PM PST US
    From: "lkc@juno.com" <lkc@juno.com>
    Subject: Re: First flight
    I'm one of those who are learning from the start in my KF-S5. I can rel ate to Pete's 4 bounce on landing but sometimes I would be happy with on ly 4 bounces. I now have over 50 landings and 75% are good (not excelen t), and the other 25% I wish I could take back. I'm glad I have patient cfi's. I have no idea how learning in the KF compares to learning in a trike cause I've never tried landing anything but the KF... oping the l earning curve levels out soon so I can solo. Layne Anchorage, Ak. S5 Sooby ____________________________________________________________ Surf a world without wires. Click now for great wireless Internet soluti ons! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iiefNdzEuyQeXmzeM4qkX0T BjKeTwHl533ropTDUbahTyUHUf/


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    Time: 12:23:31 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
    Subject: Re: First flight
    Not to discourage you, much, but I got my PPL many years ago in a Piper Tomahawk and soloed after 12 hours of dual. When I bought my Kitfox I hadn't flown in about 20 years so opted to start again from scratch for an NPPL in the UK. Looking at my logbook it was after 30 hours of dual that I soloed again, although about 8 hours of that was in a trike microlight. So I figure it took me about twice as long, but now I'm pretty darn good at it. BTW I bought the KF from a gent who was learning to fly first time - he gave up and a bought Jabiru trike kit. Bob Brennan 1991 UK Model 2 Kitfox Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop Wrightsville Pa _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lkc@juno.com Sent: 31 July 2008 2:57 pm Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: First flight I'm one of those who are learning from the start in my KF-S5. I can relate to Pete's 4 bounce on landing but sometimes I would be happy with only 4 bounces. I now have over 50 landings and 75% are good (not excelent), and the other 25% I wish I could take back. I'm glad I have patient cfi's. I have no idea how learning in the KF compares to learning in a trike cause I've never tried landing anything but the KF... oping the learning curve levels out soon so I can solo. Layne Anchorage, Ak. S5 Sooby ____________________________________________________________ Surf a world without wires. Click now for great wireless Internet <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2132/fc/Ioyw6iiefNdzEuyQeXmzeM4qkX0TBjK eTwHl533ropTDUbahTyUHUf/> solutions!


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    Time: 12:37:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: First flight
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    [quote="lkc(at)juno.com"]I'm one of those who are learning from the start in my KF-S5.? I can relate to Pete's 4 bounce on landing but sometimes I would be happy with only 4 bounces. I now have over 50 landings and 75% are good (not excelent), and the other 25% I wish I could take back. I'm glad I have patient cfi's. I have no idea how learning in the KF compares to learning in a trike cause I've never tried landing anything but the KF... oping the learning curve levels out soon so I can solo. Layne Anchorage, Ak. S5 Sooby > [b] Do you have big tires on it? I know most of us have gone to at least 20" tires up here, I have 24" on mine. If you have big tires on, you may consider going to a smaller 800 or so until you have it figured out. The first tail dragger I flew was a PA12 with 30" airstreaks. The first take off was from ENA on the grass strip with no issues. We landed on the main runway and I bout killed us. Big tires at 3 psi and a cross wind make for exciting times on pavement. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195899#195899


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    Time: 02:07:33 PM PST US
    From: "Pete Christensen" <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: First flight
    Layne, Did you get the Bungies I sent? Pete Hell Paso, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: lkc@juno.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:56 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: First flight I'm one of those who are learning from the start in my KF-S5. I can relate to Pete's 4 bounce on landing but sometimes I would be happy with only 4 bounces. I now have over 50 landings and 75% are good (not excelent), and the other 25% I wish I could take back. I'm glad I have patient cfi's. I have no idea how learning in the KF compares to learning in a trike cause I've never tried landing anything but the KF... oping the learning curve levels out soon so I can solo. Layne Anchorage, Ak. S5 Sooby ____________________________________________________________ Surf a world without wires. Click now for great wireless Internet solutions!


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    Time: 02:49:40 PM PST US
    From: "Pete Christensen" <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Heavy stick for aileron's
    For information. I installed the bearings on the hatch cover of my Kitfox III. It had NO affect on the ailerons that I can detect. Pete Hell Paso, TX III, 912ul, Grove ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Heavy stick for aileron's > > I'd say you should be forced to re-read all the archived comments on this > subject, including mine where I asked what the hell were these skimpy > little "bearings" that I wanted to leave off, and people set me straight. > : ) And then maybe a few "hail to the Great God Paso" 's and that > oughtta get you back in. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster > Jabiru 2200 > Status: flying w/547+ hrs > > > On Jul 17, 2008, at 5:12 PM, Pete Christensen wrote: > >> <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net> >> >> My name is Pete and I have a confession. I have been flying my Kitfox >> III without the nylon bearings. It looks like these bearings were >> attached to the hatch cover. Until now I figured they were unnecessary >> since mine are broken off. How can I be made to see the error of my >> ways and be accepted back to the flock? >> >> >> Pete >> Hell Paso, TX >> Kitfox III, 912ul, Grove gear >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no> >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:40 PM >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Heavy stick for aileron's >> > > >


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    Time: 06:12:28 PM PST US
    From: "steve eccles" <eccles@Chartermi.net>
    Subject: Re: Heavy stick for aileron's
    Pete do you have the counter weights on the 3 or is that something for the later models? Just wondering because my 5 is very light on the controls almost as sensitive as a helicopter Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete Christensen Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Heavy stick for aileron's <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net> For information. I installed the bearings on the hatch cover of my Kitfox III. It had NO affect on the ailerons that I can detect. Pete Hell Paso, TX III, 912ul, Grove ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Heavy stick for aileron's > > I'd say you should be forced to re-read all the archived comments on this > subject, including mine where I asked what the hell were these skimpy > little "bearings" that I wanted to leave off, and people set me straight. > : ) And then maybe a few "hail to the Great God Paso" 's and that > oughtta get you back in. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster > Jabiru 2200 > Status: flying w/547+ hrs > > > On Jul 17, 2008, at 5:12 PM, Pete Christensen wrote: > >> <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net> >> >> My name is Pete and I have a confession. I have been flying my Kitfox >> III without the nylon bearings. It looks like these bearings were >> attached to the hatch cover. Until now I figured they were unnecessary >> since mine are broken off. How can I be made to see the error of my >> ways and be accepted back to the flock? >> >> >> Pete >> Hell Paso, TX >> Kitfox III, 912ul, Grove gear >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no> >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:40 PM >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Heavy stick for aileron's >> > > >


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    Time: 06:17:59 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Back from Oshkosh...
    I'm back from a really nice time in Oshkosh.....return trip of 407 miles in 3.6 hours....a bit of a tailwind for some of the trip. Beer beckons..... Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster Jabiru 2200 Status: flying w/557+ hrs


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    Time: 06:38:12 PM PST US
    From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
    Subject: First flight
    Kerry, First, Congratulations! And hang in there, be safe and have fun. Also, what is it that appears to be hanging below your cockpit? Randy Series 5/ 7 firewall forward 912S WarpDrive taper tip. Just passed 200 hours and it is a great plane. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of skyring Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:04 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: First flight The S5 I helped build first flew a couple of hours a year or so ago - with another pilot - but then engine problems, work and life got in the way. This week, all problems resolved, I flew it for the first time and yes, it was like a first solo. Exhilarating : :D It has the 912S and Grove gear - see attachment. I have no choice but to do the test flying (50 hours required here) from a narrow paved runway so I am a bit nervous about the ground behaviour. The plane tracks straight but is very sensitive to rudder pedal input and quickly develops a swing. The first landing was done with very tight spring tension in the springs between rudder and tail wheel and I felt this was just too direct to be safe. I've now put in an extra link and have some slack in the springs and chain link. It feels better but I will need a few more landings to become confident. It's a maule tail wheel by the way. Any tips on tail wheel steering spring tension? Kerry S5 builders helper and "begeistert" kitfox flyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195724#195724 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kitfox_test_flight_546.jpg


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    Time: 07:53:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Heavy stick for aileron's
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    The nylon blocks are more a guide than a precision fit. If you need to lube them they are fitted too tight. Some lube will attract dirt and they will cause more friction. If you need a lube get some lube that dires . I use a molybdenum spray lube for my amphib nose gear swivels. But no where else. -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195946#195946


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    Time: 08:43:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Heavy stick for aileron's
    From: "FlyboyTR" <flyboytr@bellsouth.net>
    Good point Dave. I probably do need to clean it up..dry it out and use graphite to prevent the gooey mess! Thanks! Travis :D -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen, N-789DF Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop ADI-II Autopilot AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195955#195955


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    Time: 09:06:14 PM PST US
    Subject: To Lynn .
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    Lynn Did you receive the money for the wheel Pant components? best regards Gary Gary Algate SMC, Exploration Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655 This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may arise as a result of the e-mail transmission.




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