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1. 01:16 AM - Kitfox Cowl (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
2. 01:24 AM - Jabiru installation (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
3. 02:23 AM - RE Jabiru installation (Michel Verheughe)
4. 04:01 AM - Re: Jabiru installation (Lynn Matteson)
5. 04:02 AM - Re: RE Jabiru installation (Lynn Matteson)
6. 04:03 AM - Re: RE Jabiru installation (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
7. 05:39 AM - Re: RE Jabiru installation (steve shinabery)
8. 06:10 AM - Re: Kitfox Cowl (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
9. 08:53 AM - 2008 EAA Airventure Aircraft Awards (dholly)
10. 05:20 PM - Just 2 of the pics I took in Oshkosh (kirk hull)
11. 05:33 PM - ASI's at what speed do they start (jerry evans)
12. 06:01 PM - Re: ASI's at what speed do they start (Larry Huntley)
13. 06:30 PM - Re: epoxys (jlfernan)
14. 06:39 PM - Re: 2008 EAA Airventure Aircraft Awards (Kevin Cozik)
15. 06:40 PM - Re: ASI's at what speed do they start (Lynn Matteson)
16. 07:12 PM - Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st (Lynn Matteson)
17. 07:36 PM - Re: Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st (Sbennett3@aol.com)
18. 07:39 PM - Re: Re: epoxys (Lowell Fitt)
19. 07:52 PM - Re: ASI's at what speed do they start (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
20. 08:17 PM - Re: Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st (Lynn Matteson)
21. 09:06 PM - Re: Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
22. 09:06 PM - Re: Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
23. 09:06 PM - Re: ASI's at what speed do they start (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
24. 09:08 PM - Re: Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
25. 09:13 PM - Re: ASI's at what speed do they start (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
26. 09:20 PM - Re: Re: epoxys (paul wilson)
27. 09:26 PM - Re: Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st (Jim Crowder)
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Jim
You might also try Skyfox as they produce a copy of the Model 4 complete
with a "Cessna" type cowl for the 912 engine.
www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?aircraft_genericsearch=Skyfox%20CA-25&distinct_entry=true
Regards
Gary
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| Subject: | Jabiru installation |
Hello Jim
I had to do quite a bit of experimenting during the installation of the
cooling ducts with my Jab - biggest problem I ended up having was the
inlet area of my oil cooler was way to big and this was pressuring up the
lower cowl area. I reduced the inlet opening to 4" x 1-1/2" and added some
additional exit area below the cooler and saw a significant temp drop.
If you want a good contact for Kitfox / Jab installations you can also
contact Dave Jalanti as he is now a dealer for Jabiru in the USA and is a
wealth of knowledge on Kitfox installations - he's also a really nice guy
and has helped me a lot! His Company is called jabiru power solutions:
dave@jabirups.com
By the way after Lynn's comment about my airspeed I checked my ASI against
a friend's plane today and it looks like I am reading about 8 mph high -
Damn!
This brings my cruise back to 107mph - still great, but for a while there
I was getting really excited.
I have a really fast ASI for sale if anybody's interested !!!!!!
Regards
Gary
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Gary,
It sounds like you have it all together. Good for you. I am in the
process of installing a 3300 on my Kitfox S5. I am working on a custom
cowling and am doing some redesign after all of the emphasis on getting
proper pressure drop. I have been away from home for two months and am
about to get serious about the project again.
Jim Crowder
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Lynn
Thanks for all your help with the wheel pants - hopefully I can
reciprocate one day. By the way I fitted a new Jab2200A to my plane upon
return to Oz - I ended up managing to get hold of the solid lifter version
as this appears to be the preferred unit at the moment.
Performance is way up and at the recommended cruise RPM of 2800 I am
seeing 115 Mph at 14 Ltr/Hr burn.
Take off with me and full tanks sees 1100 Ft/Min which is pretty unnerving
until you get used to it.
Best regards
Gary
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| Subject: | RE Jabiru installation |
> biggest problem I ended up having was the
> inlet area of my oil cooler was way to big and this was pressuring up the
> lower cowl area.
Gary is right, Jim. The key to a good Jabiru installation is to make a good cooling
chamber around the engine. One of the common mistake is to make the oil cooler
inlet too big as the aim is to create a high pressure above the engine and
a low pressure under.
Since I moulded my own cowling, I made the hole for the oil cooler very small.
Then, after a few trial flights, I made it larger. Actually, the last adjustment
was made in the hottest day of that summer, just to keep the oil temperature
where it should.
Another thing is to make a big 'lip' at the outlet under the cowling. That creates
a low pressure area that really sucks the air out of the cowling.
I tried the Skyfox cowling on my model 3 but I have a cowling / glareshield / firewall
/ panel that is a perfect section of a circle, where the Skyfox cowling
is a flatter curve on the top. If I was to use the Skyfox cowling, I would have
to reshape all of the above. I went then to modify and mould myself the fore
end of my old cowling.
... Incidentally, I am now back at home and ... after all your encouragements on
this list I have decided this morning to be the first man with a pacemaker in
space! ... well, at least: back in a Kitfox. :-)
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru installation |
Interesting about your airspeed indicator, Gary....I've always
suspected mine to be a bit low. My groundspeed (GPS) seems to always
show higher unless I am in a pretty good headwind. I'm going to look
into getting mine calibrated.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying w/557+ hrs
On Aug 3, 2008, at 4:21 AM, gary.algate@sandvik.com wrote:
>
> Hello Jim
>
> I had to do quite a bit of experimenting during the installation of
> the cooling ducts with my Jab - biggest problem I ended up having
> was the inlet area of my oil cooler was way to big and this was
> pressuring up the lower cowl area. I reduced the inlet opening to
> 4" x 1-1/2" and added some additional exit area below the cooler
> and saw a significant temp drop.
>
> If you want a good contact for Kitfox / Jab installations you can
> also contact Dave Jalanti as he is now a dealer for Jabiru in the
> USA and is a wealth of knowledge on Kitfox installations - he's
> also a really nice guy and has helped me a lot! His Company is
> called jabiru power solutions:
>
> dave@jabirups.com
>
> By the way after Lynn's comment about my airspeed I checked my ASI
> against a friend's plane today and it looks like I am reading about
> 8 mph high - Damn!
>
> This brings my cruise back to 107mph - still great, but for a while
> there I was getting really excited.
>
> I have a really fast ASI for sale if anybody's interested !!!!!!
>
> Regards
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
> Classic 4 Jab2200
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
>
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> Gary,
> It sounds like you have it all together. Good for you. I am in
> the process of installing a 3300 on my Kitfox S5. I am working on
> a custom cowling and am doing some redesign after all of the
> emphasis on getting proper pressure drop. I have been away from
> home for two months and am about to get serious about the project
> again.
>
> Jim Crowder
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> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: To Lynn .
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>
> Lynn
>
> Thanks for all your help with the wheel pants - hopefully I can
> reciprocate one day. By the way I fitted a new Jab2200A to my
> plane upon return to Oz - I ended up managing to get hold of the
> solid lifter version as this appears to be the preferred unit at
> the moment.
>
> Performance is way up and at the recommended cruise RPM of 2800 I
> am seeing 115 Mph at 14 Ltr/Hr burn.
>
> Take off with me and full tanks sees 1100 Ft/Min which is pretty
> unnerving until you get used to it.
>
> Best regards
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
> Classic 4 (New) 2200A
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| Subject: | Re: RE Jabiru installation |
Attaboy, Michel...can't keep a good man down!
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying w/557+ hrs
do not archive
On Aug 3, 2008, at 5:20 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote:
>> biggest problem I ended up having was the
>> inlet area of my oil cooler was way to big and this was pressuring
>> up the
>> lower cowl area.
>
> Gary is right, Jim. The key to a good Jabiru installation is to
> make a good cooling chamber around the engine. One of the common
> mistake is to make the oil cooler inlet too big as the aim is to
> create a high pressure above the engine and a low pressure under.
> Since I moulded my own cowling, I made the hole for the oil cooler
> very small. Then, after a few trial flights, I made it larger.
> Actually, the last adjustment was made in the hottest day of that
> summer, just to keep the oil temperature where it should.
> Another thing is to make a big 'lip' at the outlet under the
> cowling. That creates a low pressure area that really sucks the air
> out of the cowling.
>
> I tried the Skyfox cowling on my model 3 but I have a cowling /
> glareshield / firewall / panel that is a perfect section of a
> circle, where the Skyfox cowling is a flatter curve on the top. If
> I was to use the Skyfox cowling, I would have to reshape all of the
> above. I went then to modify and mould myself the fore end of my
> old cowling.
>
> ... Incidentally, I am now back at home and ... after all your
> encouragements on this list I have decided this morning to be the
> first man with a pacemaker in space! ... well, at least: back in a
> Kitfox. :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Michel Verheughe
> Norway
> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE Jabiru installation |
Michel,
After reading your post I know that we can all relax as you are without a
doubt "on the mend!"
Gary
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> biggest problem I ended up having was the
> inlet area of my oil cooler was way to big and this was pressuring up
the
> lower cowl area.
Gary is right, Jim. The key to a good Jabiru installation is to make a
good cooling chamber around the engine. One of the common mistake is to
make the oil cooler inlet too big as the aim is to create a high pressure
above the engine and a low pressure under.
Since I moulded my own cowling, I made the hole for the oil cooler very
small. Then, after a few trial flights, I made it larger. Actually, the
last adjustment was made in the hottest day of that summer, just to keep
the oil temperature where it should.
Another thing is to make a big 'lip' at the outlet under the cowling. That
creates a low pressure area that really sucks the air out of the cowling.
I tried the Skyfox cowling on my model 3 but I have a cowling /
glareshield / firewall / panel that is a perfect section of a circle,
where the Skyfox cowling is a flatter curve on the top. If I was to use
the Skyfox cowling, I would have to reshape all of the above. I went then
to modify and mould myself the fore end of my old cowling.
... Incidentally, I am now back at home and ... after all your
encouragements on this list I have decided this morning to be the first
man with a pacemaker in space! ... well, at least: back in a Kitfox. :-)
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: RE Jabiru installation |
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>> biggest problem I ended up having was the
>> inlet area of my oil cooler was way to big and this was pressuring up the
>> lower cowl area.
>>
>
> Gary is right, Jim. The key to a good Jabiru installation is to make a good cooling
chamber around the engine. One of the common mistake is to make the oil
cooler inlet too big as the aim is to create a high pressure above the engine
and a low pressure under.
> Since I moulded my own cowling, I made the hole for the oil cooler very small.
Then, after a few trial flights, I made it larger. Actually, the last adjustment
was made in the hottest day of that summer, just to keep the oil temperature
where it should.
> Another thing is to make a big 'lip' at the outlet under the cowling. That creates
a low pressure area that really sucks the air out of the cowling.
>
> I tried the Skyfox cowling on my model 3 but I have a cowling / glareshield /
firewall / panel that is a perfect section of a circle, where the Skyfox cowling
is a flatter curve on the top. If I was to use the Skyfox cowling, I would
have to reshape all of the above. I went then to modify and mould myself the
fore end of my old cowling.
>
> ... Incidentally, I am now back at home and ... after all your encouragements
on this list I have decided this morning to be the first man with a pacemaker
in space! ... well, at least: back in a Kitfox. :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Michel Verheughe
> Norway
> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
>
>
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> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>
>
Now that is the way To Go Michel...hopefully you will Be flying again
soon with the rest of us..doing what we like to do best ,,and that is
FLY...STEVE SHINABERY N554KF KF2 with the little but mighty 582
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Thanks for the reply Gary=2C I'm trying to look in the used market first.
If need be=2C I'll maybe build my own cowl=2C I did that once allready alt
hough it is a lot of work. I'm retired so I have more time than money. If
I spend to much on the planes=2C I'll have to go back to work=2C and I don
't want to do that! Thanks=2C Jim Chuk=2C Kitfox 4 building=2C Avid MK
IV flying=2C MN
gate@sandvik.comDate: Sun=2C 3 Aug 2008 18:42:30 +1030Jim You might also tr
y Skyfox as they produce a copy of the Model 4 complete with a "Cessna" t
ype cowl for the 912 engine. www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?aircraft
_genericsearch=Skyfox%20CA-25&distinct_entry=trueRegards Gary Gary Alga
teSMC=2C ExplorationOffice Phone: +61 8 8276 7655This e-mail is confidentia
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| Subject: | 2008 EAA Airventure Aircraft Awards |
The 2008 EAA Airventure Aircraft Awards from Oshkosh are in!
SEAPLANE AWARDS
Plaques - Outstanding Workmanship
Kevin Cozik, 2007 Kitfox 7, N262SC
Congratulations Kevin on one great looking seaplane!
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Airdale Avid+ project | Jab2200 | Aerocet 1100 Amphibs
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| Subject: | Just 2 of the pics I took in Oshkosh |
Just 2 of the pics I took in Oshkosh
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| Subject: | ASI's at what speed do they start |
I just went out for my first test run today When does the airspeed indicator start
indicating ? I have made several runs down the runway got the tail off the
ground, all went well, but I have no airspeed on the ASI , when I blow on it,
gently I get 30 - 50 -70 Indicated so I feel that it works. When does it start
indicating? I just don't feel comfortable going for that first take off with
out a ASI working. Anyone know about this or have suggestions? Thanks Jerry
Jerry Evans
96% done 582
Magalia Calif.
N582'er'
kitfox 555
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| Subject: | Re: ASI's at what speed do they start |
Right around 40,where you don't want to be if you want to stay on the
ground. Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: jerry evans
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:29 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: ASI's at what speed do they start
I just went out for my first test run today When does the airspeed
indicator start indicating ? I have made several runs down the runway
got the tail off the ground, all went well, but I have no airspeed on
the ASI , when I blow on it, gently I get 30 - 50 -70 Indicated so I
feel that it works. When does it start indicating? I just don't feel
comfortable going for that first take off with out a ASI working.
Anyone know about this or have suggestions? Thanks Jerry
Jerry Evans
96% done 582
Magalia Calif.
N582'er'
kitfox 555
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
8/3/2008 1:00 PM
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
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I've got a new Supersport kit and included with the kit was two part Hysol. How
much flox is used when the ratio of the Hysol is 1:1?
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Jorge Fernandez
Supersport
Waiting on delivery
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| Subject: | Re: 2008 EAA Airventure Aircraft Awards |
Thanks, this is the first I've heard of it. Every Kitfox I saw at Oshkosh
was worthy of this award.
Kevin Cozik
Kitfox 7
Rotax 914
Czech floats
Lansing Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "dholly" <oue191@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 11:48 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: 2008 EAA Airventure Aircraft Awards
>
> The 2008 EAA Airventure Aircraft Awards from Oshkosh are in!
>
> SEAPLANE AWARDS
>
> Plaques - Outstanding Workmanship
> Kevin Cozik, 2007 Kitfox 7, N262SC
>
> Congratulations Kevin on one great looking seaplane!
>
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| Subject: | Re: ASI's at what speed do they start |
Mine starts at 20mph, the lowest number on the scale.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying w/557+ hrs
On Aug 3, 2008, at 8:57 PM, Larry Huntley wrote:
> Right around 40,where you don't want to be if you want to stay on
> the ground. Larry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jerry evans
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:29 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: ASI's at what speed do they start
>
> I just went out for my first test run today When does the airspeed
> indicator start indicating ? I have made several runs down the
> runway got the tail off the ground, all went well, but I have no
> airspeed on the ASI , when I blow on it, gently I get 30 - 50 -70
> Indicated so I feel that it works. When does it start indicating? I
> just don't feel comfortable going for that first take off with out
> a ASI working. Anyone know about this or have suggestions? Thanks
> Jerry
>
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| Subject: | Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st |
Well, my resume' is getting more complete....I had to put the 'fox
down into a freshly harvested wheat field today...engine problem.
After getting the plane back on a trailer and bringing it home, the
preliminary finding is no cam action on either the valves, or via the
camshaft, the distributor shafts. So I'll need to pull the engine and
get into the rear cover, under which lurks the cam/crank gear. I
think the recent rear main seal seepage might have been a clue. You'd
have to know the Jabiru engine to know why I think this is possible.
Anybody think this incident will make me MORE willing to cross "the
big water?"
I was at about 1500' agl when it happened, and had plenty of time to
look for a suitable field, found it and circled around CCW from a
heading of 043 to a heading of 090 and landed with the grain with a
very slight right-hand crosswind...wind was from 150. A guy was
walking along the road and noticed a very quiet plane coming in over
his head and called his son to come over with a "quadrunner" and we
all went to his house. We left shortly for the airshow at Caro
airport (my destination), where we met up with Deke, filled him in on
the shenanigans, then went back to the scene and towed the plane out
of the field, while Brian, my flight instructor brought my trailer up
the 140+ miles to help me out. Got it all loaded up (remember a week
or so ago when I said I didn't like towing my plane and the next time
I did it, it would be because I needed to?.....well, guess what?)
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying...oops...holding short at 561.8 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st |
Lynn, I'm glad Michigan is blessed with many fields as i'm sure you are als
o
:-) I guess this means you wont be meeting me at KLAF this weekend :-(
Keep us informed of what the diagnosis is... I have 918 on the hobbs on my
plane (different motor) but i'm sure the same may happen to me one day. St
eve
Bennett kf4/912
In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:13:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lynnmatt@jps.net writes:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Well, my resume' is getting more complete....I had to put the 'fox
down into a freshly harvested wheat field today...engine problem.
After getting the plane back on a trailer and bringing it home, the
preliminary finding is no cam action on either the valves, or via the
camshaft, the distributor shafts. So I'll need to pull the engine and
get into the rear cover, under which lurks the cam/crank gear. I
think the recent rear main seal seepage might have been a clue. You'd
have to know the Jabiru engine to know why I think this is possible.
Anybody think this incident will make me MORE willing to cross "the
big water?"
I was at about 1500' agl when it happened, and had plenty of time to
look for a suitable field, found it and circled around CCW from a
heading of 043=B0 to a heading of 090=B0 and landed with the grain with a
very slight right-hand crosswind...wind was from 150=B0. A guy was
walking along the road and noticed a very quiet plane coming in over
his head and called his son to come over with a "quadrunner" and we
all went to his house. We left shortly for the airshow at Caro
airport (my destination), where we met up with Deke, filled him in on
the shenanigans, then went back to the scene and towed the plane out
of the field, while Brian, my flight instructor brought my trailer up
the 140+ miles to help me out. Got it all loaded up (remember a week
or so ago when I said I didn't like towing my plane and the next time
I did it, it would be because I needed to?.....well, guess what?)
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying...oops...holding short at 561.8 hrs
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Jorge,
When I built, in the old days of the 3M structural adhesive, the flox was
added to the point where the adhesive would no longer sag after placement..
This adhesive was used in assembling the wing ribs to wing spars as well as
in other non structural applications. If there are other instructions
unique to Hysol, others will respond.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "jlfernan" <jlfernan@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:26 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: epoxys
>
> I've got a new Supersport kit and included with the kit was two part
> Hysol. How much flox is used when the ratio of the Hysol is 1:1?
>
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> Waiting on delivery
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| Subject: | ASI's at what speed do they start |
There was an article in Kitplanes (I think) a couple of years ago on how to
test an ASI with a water column. A certain number of inches of water prea
sure should cause the ASI to read a certain amount. When I check my ASI=2C
I hook a long 1/4" plastic line to the pitot tube and pinch off and then f
old the tube up. That will presureize the ASI gently and the speed goes up
about 10 or 20 MPH with each fold. The long line lets me watch the ASI as
I'm doing it. I don't like the idea of no ASI on takeoff either. Jim Chu
k=2C Kitfox 4 building=2C Avid MK IV flying=2C Mn
Kitfox-List: ASI's at what speed do they startTo: kitfox-list@matronics.co
mI just went out for my first test run today When does the airspeed indicat
or start indicating ? I have made several runs down the runway got the tail
off the ground=2C all went well=2C but I have no airspeed on the ASI =2C w
hen I blow on it=2C gently I get 30 - 50 -70 Indicated so I feel that it wo
rks. When does it start indicating? I just don't feel comfortable going for
that first take off with out a ASI working. Anyone know about this or hav
e suggestions? Thanks Jerry
Jerry Evans 96% done 582
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st |
Yeah, the fields were plentiful today, and thanks to a nice glide
ratio, I got to pick a nice short-cropped yellow one from all the
tall green ones. Unless a miracle happens, I'm on the disabled list
for this weekend, Steve...bummer.
It's funny that I noticed a slight seepage from the rear main seal
while at Oshkosh, and about 8 hrs later this happens. I'll pull the
engine tomorrow, so I should know very soon what let go. The main
seal leaking was surely a clue, because the surface that the rear
seal rides on is the crankshaft gear, not the crankshaft itself in a
Jabiru, strange as that sounds. It could be minimal, but I figure at
least some bent valves when they stopped and the pistons kept moving.
There's gotta be some metal throughout the engine, as the prop
continued to turn until slow on final.
I was surprised at how quickly I got through the "this can't be
happening" phase, and into the "where the hell's that landing field"
phase. I was just 7 minutes from Caro's field and knew I couldn't
make that, so that's when a quick scan of available airports/strips
on the GPS took place, and all were too far away. This field was made
to order. I got it turned to downwind, tried to start it...dumb move
with the prop still turning....then shut off the fuel, the ignition,
the master, and made a pretty damn good landing, if I do say so
myself. I couldn't have got that tail down any further unless I got
out and dug a trench....no practicing wheel landings under those
circumstances, for sure.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying...oops...holding short at 561.8 hrs
On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:31 PM, Sbennett3@aol.com wrote:
> Lynn, I'm glad Michigan is blessed with many fields as i'm sure
> you are also :-) I guess this means you wont be meeting me at
> KLAF this weekend :-( Keep us informed of what the diagnosis
> is... I have 918 on the hobbs on my plane (different motor) but i'm
> sure the same may happen to me one day. Steve Bennett kf4/912
>
> In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:13:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> lynnmatt@jps.net writes:
>
> Well, my resume' is getting more complete....I had to put the 'fox
> down into a freshly harvested wheat field today...engine problem.
> After getting the plane back on a trailer and bringing it home, the
> preliminary finding is no cam action on either the valves, or via the
> camshaft, the distributor shafts. So I'll need to pull the engine and
> get into the rear cover, under which lurks the cam/crank gear. I
> think the recent rear main seal seepage might have been a clue. You'd
> have to know the Jabiru engine to know why I think this is possible.
>
> Anybody think this incident will make me MORE willing to cross "the
> big water?"
>
> I was at about 1500' agl when it happened, and had plenty of time to
> look for a suitable field, found it and circled around CCW from a
> heading of 043 to a heading of 090 and landed with the grain with a
> very slight right-hand crosswind...wind was from 150. A guy was
> walking along the road and noticed a very quiet plane coming in over
> his head and called his son to come over with a "quadrunner" and we
> all went to his house. We left shortly for the airshow at Caro
> airport (my destination), where we met up with Deke, filled him in on
> the shenanigans, then went back to the scene and towed the plane out
> of the field, while Brian, my flight instructor brought my trailer up
> the 140+ miles to help me out. Got it all loaded up (remember a week
> or so ago when I said I didn't like towing my plane and the next time
> I did it, it would be because I needed to?.....well, guess what?)
>
>
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> Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st |
Hi Lynn=2C I'm glad things ended well for you with the engine out. It doe
s come as a suprise when it happens all right. I had to make a hayfield la
nding once with my MK IV when it still had the 582. Fuel filter was pluggi
ng and just after takeoff=2C when the header tank ran down=2C engine spit a
nd sputtered and would only hold about 4500 RPM. I didn't know then what w
as wrong=2C so I put it down in a neighbors field. It wasn't the engine's
fault=2C but I did eventually switch over to a Jabiru for better reliabilit
y..???? It hasn't let me down yet=2C but I've only put 100 hrs on it so fa
r. Hope you are back in the air soon and the bill isn't to great. Jim Chu
k=2C Kitfox 4 building=2C Avid MK IV flying=2C MN> From: lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st> Date
: Sun=2C 3 Aug 2008 23:12:32 -0400> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > --> Ki
tfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>> > Yeah=2C th
e fields were plentiful today=2C and thanks to a nice glide > ratio=2C I go
t to pick a nice short-cropped yellow one from all the > tall green ones. U
nless a miracle happens=2C I'm on the disabled list > for this weekend=2C S
teve...bummer.> > It's funny that I noticed a slight seepage from the rear
main seal > while at Oshkosh=2C and about 8 hrs later this happens. I'll pu
ll the > engine tomorrow=2C so I should know very soon what let go. The mai
n > seal leaking was surely a clue=2C because the surface that the rear > s
eal rides on is the crankshaft gear=2C not the crankshaft itself in a > Jab
iru=2C strange as that sounds. It could be minimal=2C but I figure at > lea
st some bent valves when they stopped and the pistons kept moving. > There'
s gotta be some metal throughout the engine=2C as the prop > continued to t
urn until slow on final.> > I was surprised at how quickly I got through th
e "this can't be > happening" phase=2C and into the "where the hell's that
landing field" > phase. I was just 7 minutes from Caro's field and knew I c
ouldn't > make that=2C so that's when a quick scan of available airports/st
rips > on the GPS took place=2C and all were too far away. This field was m
ade > to order. I got it turned to downwind=2C tried to start it...dumb mov
e > with the prop still turning....then shut off the fuel=2C the ignition
=2C > the master=2C and made a pretty damn good landing=2C if I do say so >
myself. I couldn't have got that tail down any further unless I got > out
and dug a trench....no practicing wheel landings under those > circumstance
s=2C for sure.> > Lynn Matteson> Kitfox IV Speedster> Jabiru 2200> Status:
flying...oops...holding short at 561.8 hrs> > > > > On Aug 3=2C 2008=2C at
10:31 PM=2C Sbennett3@aol.com wrote:> > > Lynn=2C I'm glad Michigan is bles
sed with many fields as i'm sure > > you are also :-) I guess this means yo
u wont be meeting me at > > KLAF this weekend :-( Keep us informed of what
the diagnosis > > is... I have 918 on the hobbs on my plane (different moto
r) but i'm > > sure the same may happen to me one day. Steve Bennett kf4/91
2> >> > In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:13:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time=2C
teson <lynnmatt@jps.net>> >> > Well=2C my resume' is getting more complete.
...I had to put the 'fox> > down into a freshly harvested wheat field today
...engine problem.> > After getting the plane back on a trailer and bringin
g it home=2C the> > preliminary finding is no cam action on either the valv
es=2C or via the> > camshaft=2C the distributor shafts. So I'll need to pul
l the engine and> > get into the rear cover=2C under which lurks the cam/cr
ank gear. I> > think the recent rear main seal seepage might have been a cl
ue. You'd> > have to know the Jabiru engine to know why I think this is pos
sible.> >> > Anybody think this incident will make me MORE willing to cross
"the> > big water?"> >> > I was at about 1500' agl when it happened=2C and
had plenty of time to> > look for a suitable field=2C found it and circled
around CCW from a> > heading of 043=B0 to a heading of 090=B0 and landed w
ith the grain with a> > very slight right-hand crosswind...wind was from 15
0=B0. A guy was> > walking along the road and noticed a very quiet plane co
ming in over> > his head and called his son to come over with a "quadrunner
" and we> > all went to his house. We left shortly for the airshow at Caro>
> airport (my destination)=2C where we met up with Deke=2C filled him in o
n> > the shenanigans=2C then went back to the scene and towed the plane out
> > of the field=2C while Brian=2C my flight instructor brought my trailer
up> > the 140+ miles to help me out. Got it all loaded up (remember a week>
> or so ago when I said I didn't like towing my plane and the next time> >
I did it=2C it would be because I needed to?.....well=2C guess what?)> >>
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| Subject: | Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st |
Hi Lynn=2C I'm glad things ended well for you with the engine out. It doe
s come as a suprise when it happens all right. I had to make a hayfield la
nding once with my MK IV when it still had the 582. Fuel filter was pluggi
ng and just after takeoff=2C when the header tank ran down=2C engine spit a
nd sputtered and would only hold about 4500 RPM. I didn't know then what w
as wrong=2C so I put it down in a neighbors field. It wasn't the engine's
fault=2C but I did eventually switch over to a Jabiru for better reliabilit
y..???? It hasn't let me down yet=2C but I've only put 100 hrs on it so fa
r. Hope you are back in the air soon and the bill isn't to great. Jim Chu
k=2C Kitfox 4 building=2C Avid MK IV flying=2C MN> From: lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st> Date
: Sun=2C 3 Aug 2008 23:12:32 -0400> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > --> Ki
tfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>> > Yeah=2C th
e fields were plentiful today=2C and thanks to a nice glide > ratio=2C I go
t to pick a nice short-cropped yellow one from all the > tall green ones. U
nless a miracle happens=2C I'm on the disabled list > for this weekend=2C S
teve...bummer.> > It's funny that I noticed a slight seepage from the rear
main seal > while at Oshkosh=2C and about 8 hrs later this happens. I'll pu
ll the > engine tomorrow=2C so I should know very soon what let go. The mai
n > seal leaking was surely a clue=2C because the surface that the rear > s
eal rides on is the crankshaft gear=2C not the crankshaft itself in a > Jab
iru=2C strange as that sounds. It could be minimal=2C but I figure at > lea
st some bent valves when they stopped and the pistons kept moving. > There'
s gotta be some metal throughout the engine=2C as the prop > continued to t
urn until slow on final.> > I was surprised at how quickly I got through th
e "this can't be > happening" phase=2C and into the "where the hell's that
landing field" > phase. I was just 7 minutes from Caro's field and knew I c
ouldn't > make that=2C so that's when a quick scan of available airports/st
rips > on the GPS took place=2C and all were too far away. This field was m
ade > to order. I got it turned to downwind=2C tried to start it...dumb mov
e > with the prop still turning....then shut off the fuel=2C the ignition
=2C > the master=2C and made a pretty damn good landing=2C if I do say so >
myself. I couldn't have got that tail down any further unless I got > out
and dug a trench....no practicing wheel landings under those > circumstance
s=2C for sure.> > Lynn Matteson> Kitfox IV Speedster> Jabiru 2200> Status:
flying...oops...holding short at 561.8 hrs> > > > > On Aug 3=2C 2008=2C at
10:31 PM=2C Sbennett3@aol.com wrote:> > > Lynn=2C I'm glad Michigan is bles
sed with many fields as i'm sure > > you are also :-) I guess this means yo
u wont be meeting me at > > KLAF this weekend :-( Keep us informed of what
the diagnosis > > is... I have 918 on the hobbs on my plane (different moto
r) but i'm > > sure the same may happen to me one day. Steve Bennett kf4/91
2> >> > In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:13:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time=2C
teson <lynnmatt@jps.net>> >> > Well=2C my resume' is getting more complete.
...I had to put the 'fox> > down into a freshly harvested wheat field today
...engine problem.> > After getting the plane back on a trailer and bringin
g it home=2C the> > preliminary finding is no cam action on either the valv
es=2C or via the> > camshaft=2C the distributor shafts. So I'll need to pul
l the engine and> > get into the rear cover=2C under which lurks the cam/cr
ank gear. I> > think the recent rear main seal seepage might have been a cl
ue. You'd> > have to know the Jabiru engine to know why I think this is pos
sible.> >> > Anybody think this incident will make me MORE willing to cross
"the> > big water?"> >> > I was at about 1500' agl when it happened=2C and
had plenty of time to> > look for a suitable field=2C found it and circled
around CCW from a> > heading of 043=B0 to a heading of 090=B0 and landed w
ith the grain with a> > very slight right-hand crosswind...wind was from 15
0=B0. A guy was> > walking along the road and noticed a very quiet plane co
ming in over> > his head and called his son to come over with a "quadrunner
" and we> > all went to his house. We left shortly for the airshow at Caro>
> airport (my destination)=2C where we met up with Deke=2C filled him in o
n> > the shenanigans=2C then went back to the scene and towed the plane out
> > of the field=2C while Brian=2C my flight instructor brought my trailer
up> > the 140+ miles to help me out. Got it all loaded up (remember a week>
> or so ago when I said I didn't like towing my plane and the next time> >
I did it=2C it would be because I needed to?.....well=2C guess what?)> >>
>> > Lynn Matteson> > Kitfox IV Speedster> > Jabiru 2200> > Status: flying.
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| Subject: | Re: ASI's at what speed do they start |
Mine starts at 20 also which is normally well before the tail comes up
Regards
Gary
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Kitfox-List: ASI's at what speed do they start
I just went out for my first test run today When does the airspeed
indicator start indicating ? I have made several runs down the runway got
the tail off the ground, all went well, but I have no airspeed on the ASI
, when I blow on it, gently I get 30 - 50 -70 Indicated so I feel that it
works. When does it start indicating? I just don't feel comfortable going
for that first take off with out a ASI working. Anyone know about this or
have suggestions? Thanks Jerry
Jerry Evans
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st |
Glad you and the plane are OK - I seem to recall at some stage Jab went to
wider cam and valve train gears - don't know if this might be a
contributing factor?
Regards
Gary
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I just googled testing an airspeed indicator and the second site listed
describes how to test the ASI like the kitplanes article did. Jim Chuk
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There was an article in Kitplanes (I think) a couple of years ago on how to
test an ASI with a water column. A certain number of inches of water prea
sure should cause the ASI to read a certain amount. When I check my ASI=2C
I hook a long 1/4" plastic line to the pitot tube and pinch off and then f
old the tube up. That will presureize the ASI gently and the speed goes up
about 10 or 20 MPH with each fold. The long line lets me watch the ASI as
I'm doing it. I don't like the idea of no ASI on takeoff either. Jim Chu
k=2C Kitfox 4 building=2C Avid MK IV flying=2C Mn
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mI just went out for my first test run today When does the airspeed indicat
or start indicating ? I have made several runs down the runway got the tail
off the ground=2C all went well=2C but I have no airspeed on the ASI =2C w
hen I blow on it=2C gently I get 30 - 50 -70 Indicated so I feel that it wo
rks. When does it start indicating? I just don't feel comfortable going for
that first take off with out a ASI working. Anyone know about this or hav
e suggestions? Thanks Jerry
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Back when we were using the West epoxy system the stuff came with
detailed instructions which said add the flox or other filler until
you arrive at the consistency of peanut butter and could spread it on
with a pop stick. Thicker is better for vertical surfaces to keep the
epoxy from flowing. Chopped Fiberglas or strands of Fiberglas are
used for stronger final product. Glass beads and ground up powder
are also used just to make the stuff thick like flox.
I bet you could get on line and get Hysols detailed instructions for
their product.
Paul
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>>I've got a new Supersport kit and included with the kit was two
>>part Hysol. How much flox is used when the ratio of the Hysol is 1:1?
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>>Jorge Fernandez
>>Supersport
>>Waiting on delivery
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| Subject: | Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st |
Good job Lynn. Successes like yours are encouraging. Better if it hadn't
happened though. Everyone will anxiously await your reports.
Jim Crowder
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lynn
> Matteson
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 9:13 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox survives emergency landing...my 1st
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>
>
> Yeah, the fields were plentiful today, and thanks to a nice glide
> ratio, I got to pick a nice short-cropped yellow one from all the
> tall green ones. Unless a miracle happens, I'm on the disabled list
> for this weekend, Steve...bummer.
>
> It's funny that I noticed a slight seepage from the rear main seal
> while at Oshkosh, and about 8 hrs later this happens. I'll pull the
> engine tomorrow, so I should know very soon what let go. The main
> seal leaking was surely a clue, because the surface that the rear
> seal rides on is the crankshaft gear, not the crankshaft itself in a
> Jabiru, strange as that sounds. It could be minimal, but I figure at
> least some bent valves when they stopped and the pistons kept moving.
> There's gotta be some metal throughout the engine, as the prop
> continued to turn until slow on final.
>
> I was surprised at how quickly I got through the "this can't be
> happening" phase, and into the "where the hell's that landing field"
> phase. I was just 7 minutes from Caro's field and knew I couldn't
> make that, so that's when a quick scan of available airports/strips
> on the GPS took place, and all were too far away. This field was made
> to order. I got it turned to downwind, tried to start it...dumb move
> with the prop still turning....then shut off the fuel, the ignition,
> the master, and made a pretty damn good landing, if I do say so
> myself. I couldn't have got that tail down any further unless I got
> out and dug a trench....no practicing wheel landings under those
> circumstances, for sure.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster
> Jabiru 2200
> Status: flying...oops...holding short at 561.8 hrs
>
>
> On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:31 PM, Sbennett3@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Lynn, I'm glad Michigan is blessed with many fields as i'm sure
> > you are also :-) I guess this means you wont be meeting me at
> > KLAF this weekend :-( Keep us informed of what the diagnosis
> > is... I have 918 on the hobbs on my plane (different motor) but i'm
> > sure the same may happen to me one day. Steve Bennett kf4/912
> >
> > In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:13:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > lynnmatt@jps.net writes:
> >
> > Well, my resume' is getting more complete....I had to put the 'fox
> > down into a freshly harvested wheat field today...engine problem.
> > After getting the plane back on a trailer and bringing it home, the
> > preliminary finding is no cam action on either the valves, or via the
> > camshaft, the distributor shafts. So I'll need to pull the engine and
> > get into the rear cover, under which lurks the cam/crank gear. I
> > think the recent rear main seal seepage might have been a clue. You'd
> > have to know the Jabiru engine to know why I think this is possible.
> >
> > Anybody think this incident will make me MORE willing to cross "the
> > big water?"
> >
> > I was at about 1500' agl when it happened, and had plenty of time to
> > look for a suitable field, found it and circled around CCW from a
> > heading of 043 to a heading of 090 and landed with the grain with a
> > very slight right-hand crosswind...wind was from 150. A guy was
> > walking along the road and noticed a very quiet plane coming in over
> > his head and called his son to come over with a "quadrunner" and we
> > all went to his house. We left shortly for the airshow at Caro
> > airport (my destination), where we met up with Deke, filled him in on
> > the shenanigans, then went back to the scene and towed the plane out
> > of the field, while Brian, my flight instructor brought my trailer up
> > the 140+ miles to help me out. Got it all loaded up (remember a week
> > or so ago when I said I didn't like towing my plane and the next time
> > I did it, it would be because I needed to?.....well, guess what?)
> >
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster
> > Jabiru 2200
> > Status: flying...oops...holding short at 561.8 he es y --
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