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Fri 08/08/08


Total Messages Posted: 19



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     1. 03:42 AM - Re: Temporary strut fairing (dave)
     2. 04:16 AM - Part of the Kitfox Line for sale (dave)
     3. 04:55 AM - Re: Landing and engine pictures (n61kf)
     4. 05:24 AM - Re: Re: Landing and engine pictures (Lynn Matteson)
     5. 05:36 AM - good deal on 0-150 MPH Kitfox ASI (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
     6. 06:43 AM - Re: Re: Landing and engine pictures (steve shinabery)
     7. 07:24 AM - Re: Re: Landing and engine pictures (Lynn Matteson)
     8. 07:26 AM - Re: Re: Landing and engine pictures (Lynn Matteson)
     9. 07:36 AM - Re: Landing and engine pictures (Michel Verheughe)
    10. 07:37 AM - Re: Re: Landing and engine pictures (Lynn Matteson)
    11. 07:58 AM - Re: Re: Landing and engine pictures (Lynn Matteson)
    12. 09:02 AM - Re: naca inlets (Perkins, Mike)
    13. 11:11 AM - Re: naca inlets (n85ae)
    14. 11:18 AM - Re: 91 octane, time to be heard! (JetPilot)
    15. 01:38 PM - Re: Re: Landing and engine pictures (Allan Aaron)
    16. 04:27 PM - Wanted Rotary Pinking Shears. (SUE MICHAELS)
    17. 04:52 PM - Rotary Pinking Shears (Larry Huntley)
    18. 06:49 PM - Re: 91 octane, time to be heard! (Roger Lee)
    19. 07:13 PM - Re: Wanted Rotary Pinking Shears. (Randy Daughenbaugh)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:42:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Temporary strut fairing
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Very nice gain on that simple mod there Tom. Hard numbers just go to show it is there for the giving. Anyone got any other mods that have proven speed gains? ie gas cap fairings -wing strut attach point fairings? -covers under the flapperon where it enters the turtle deck at bottom? filling the space between the horiz stab and vert . stab? -rad scoop? Tell us what you gained if anything... I still think that the cowl is lacking air exits and there might be a gain to be had there. I changed mine a few years ago and got lower coolant temps by not dumping hot cowl air directly into the rad. http://www.cfisher.com/cowl.html -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=197280#197280


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    Time: 04:16:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Part of the Kitfox Line for sale
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Looks like one of Mc Beans partners is selling the Kitfox Lite. MANUFACTURING OPPORTUNITY $40,000 OFFERED FOR SALE Manufacturing Opportunity: All rights, tooling, jigs for kitfox lite single seat a/c. Inc 2 kits. Contact Michael Berglund, Owner - located Fountain Hills , AZ USA Telephone: 602-684-1527 -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=197281#197281


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    Time: 04:55:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Landing and engine pictures
    From: "n61kf" <bkls1@earthlink.net>
    Lynn at Oshkosh worrying about the condition of his engine! -------- Keith Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=197287#197287 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/imgp1425_646.jpg


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    Time: 05:24:44 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: RE: Landing and engine pictures
    From the sounds of things, my gear breakage is another of those "we've never heard of that happing before" things, and nobody else will have to worry. I certainly hope so. On the recovery bottle thing...mine is fiberglas, and I built up the bottom of it with more 'glas so I could drill and tap it with a 1/4"NPT tap. I installed a petcock so I could drain the contents of the bottle and didn't have to remove the cowl to do it...all I had to do was reach up through the lower cowl air exit and turn the petcock a zillion turns to drain the oil. Now I'm thinking of using a quick- drain fitting and a length of hose so the fitting is right at the bottom of the lower cowl, and can be drained more readily. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster Jabiru 2200 Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly") On Aug 7, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Michel Verheughe wrote: > Thanks for your advice and I will look under the flywheel at each > pre-flight. It's easy for my, my opening under the cowling is very > large and it gives a good view of the rear bottom end of the > engine. Looking there is already in my pre-flight because it allows > me to check the recovery bottle without removing the cowling. > > Cheers, > Michel Verheughe > Norway > Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 ... grounded for now. > > > <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> > > List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> > forums.matronics.com</a> > www.matronics.com/contribution</a> > > </b></font></pre>


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    Time: 05:36:42 AM PST US
    From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk <thesupe@hotmail.com>
    Subject: good deal on 0-150 MPH Kitfox ASI
    Hi all=2C I was just on ebay and saw a real good price for a Kitfox labled ASI=2C $42.50 buy it now. Yes that's right. This guy has bought up a bu nch of new instruments from someone that went out of buisness and is sellin g them cheap. I bought one from him for an Avid a few months ago and it wo rked fine. Just go to ebay motors and search for Kitfox. It is in the low er part of the page=2C ebay stores. I have nothing to do with this sale=2C I'm just passing it along. Jim Chuk Kitfox 4 building=2C Avid MK IV and Avid B flying Mn _________________________________________________________________ Your PC=2C mobile phone=2C and online services work together like never bef ore.


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    Time: 06:43:23 AM PST US
    From: steve shinabery <shinco@bright.net>
    Subject: Re: Landing and engine pictures
    n61kf wrote: > > Lynn at Oshkosh worrying about the condition of his engine! > > -------- > Keith > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=197287#197287 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/imgp1425_646.jpg > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > > NOW that is funney Lynn,,,,That pic is worth a MILLION $$ big ones...GOOD PICTURE STEVE SHINABERY N554KF KF2


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    Time: 07:24:41 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: RE: Landing and engine pictures
    I'd like to do that, Gary. But first I want to wait until I get some word from the Jabiru dealer to see if they want to see the pieces. If not, I'll get in touch with you and send them off. I think the only contaminant that got between the teeth was another one of the teeth. : ) Even the intake valve that was hit by the piston is still without runout when spun in my lathe, but a local aircraft engine rebuilder magnafluxed it and said it looked like it had cracks, but that it might have been where the head was spun-welded onto the stem, and that he would not use it. And to that I gave a big amen, 'cause I sure as hell WASN'T gonna put that back into the engine, even if I got a "good to go report" from the magnaflux check. See picture: I certainly didn't need the 'flux job to tell me not to use this valve, but I also couldn't determine what the "scratchy-looking" marks were. My best guess is that very hard metal was flexed, and where the flex occurred, the edges flaked off, leaving a slight crater which shows up as a scratch. The guides are worn to their allowable tolerances, but the valve stems are right on specs. The valve "wobble test" told me more than the micrometer did, and I plan on getting the heads done...new valves and guides. The local aircraft engine guy said he thought they'd make it to the 1000 hr suggested head overhaul time, but certainly not with the one valve looking like it does. His estimate was based on the appearance of the guides, valves, and the wobble test, and his experience in the field. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster Jabiru 2200 Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly") On Aug 7, 2008, at 6:54 PM, gary.algate@sandvik.com wrote: > > Lynn > > If you would like to send the broken gear to my office in Barrie, > Ontario I can have our metallurgist take a look at it. We can do > carbon analysis and have metallurgical inspection as my people > there are qualified in fatigue analysis for our drilling products. > > Might show something! > > the only other thing that the jab people here could come up with > was some sort of contaminant in the oil etc that jammed between the > teeth. After reading your posts I find that highly unlikely! > > How were the rest of your pistons and valves? > > Gary > > Gary Algate > SMC, Exploration > Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655


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    Time: 07:26:46 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: RE: Landing and engine pictures
    Hmmmmm......ya see, Michel, the word "fruit" has sort of a different meaning over on this side of the pond....... : ) Have ya looked into hopping up that new toy yet? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster Jabiru 2200 Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly") do not archive On Aug 7, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Michel Verheughe wrote: >> From: Lynn Matteson [lynnmatt@jps.net] >> Spot-on, you say old chap? Well, bully then, the next pint's on me! > > By Jove! You do speak English, don't you? Good show, old fruit! > ... okay, I'll shut up, leave the room and go and play with my new > pacemaker! :-) > > Michel > Do not archive > > > <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> > > List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> > forums.matronics.com</a> > www.matronics.com/contribution</a> > > </b></font></pre>


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    Time: 07:36:51 AM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: Landing and engine pictures
    > From: n61kf [bkls1@earthlink.net] > Lynn at Oshkosh worrying about the condition of his engine! Wow! Lynn, you're the coolest pilot I know! ... :-) Cheers, Michel Do not archive <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 07:37:32 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Landing and engine pictures
    Nahhh....if I'da been worried, I'd have had a beer in my hand. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster Jabiru 2200 Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly") do not archive On Aug 8, 2008, at 7:54 AM, n61kf wrote: > > Lynn at Oshkosh worrying about the condition of his engine! > > -------- > Keith


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    Time: 07:58:46 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Landing and engine pictures
    I was walking by the "Air Chair" tent at Oshkosh, and couldn't resist the orange chair that almost matches my plane, so I bought it. The wing was tied down on the other side, so I was in no danger of dropping on my pratt (there's more of that English phrasing again). After I got back, I tried the chair on the plane without it being tied down, and it still didn't drop me...try that with your bungee- cord landing gears. (The former comment was a shameless plug for the Grove gear, or any other with a wider stance...the larger the pilot, the wider the stance must be) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster Jabiru 2200 Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly") do not archive On Aug 8, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote: >> From: n61kf [bkls1@earthlink.net] >> Lynn at Oshkosh worrying about the condition of his engine! > > Wow! Lynn, you're the coolest pilot I know! ... :-) > > Cheers, > Michel > Do not archive > > > <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> > > List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> > forums.matronics.com</a> > www.matronics.com/contribution</a> > > </b></font></pre>


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    Time: 09:02:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: naca inlets
    From: "Perkins, Mike" <Michael.Perkins@Rauland.com>
    Bob, The NACA submerged duct will not work backwards. The 1948 NACA report on ducts discusses a pressure build-up based on vortices produced by the edges of the inlet that energize the slow-moving boundary-layer air. The vortices increase in size from front to fore to aft (with the serpentine shape of the edge aiding in that). Turning it around does not allow the vortices to form. One note to everyone installing a NACA submerged duct - - the edges of the duct should be as sharp as possible. Many builders round off the edges. But since the duct is based on vortices, rounding them off reduces their effectiveness. The NACA report is available at http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19930093809_1993093 809.pdf Mike Perkins


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    Time: 11:11:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: naca inlets
    From: "n85ae" <n85ae@yahoo.com>
    I made really snazzy NACA Ducts for my cabin ventilation, never could get the cabin cool enough. So I popped in some Snap Vents in the side windows which pop open and act like great big air scoops. Can adjust from no air to hurricane in the cabin now, so I'm happy. Moral of the story, super slick high tech isn't always the best solution. Regards, Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=197368#197368


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    Time: 11:18:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 91 octane, time to be heard!
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    Hi Roger !!!! I have been wondering where you were. I have missed your posts, they always have such good information. One thing I noticed the other day, the Purolator Pure one oil filters are now a Gold color with a rough finish, did they change the filter any ??? Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=197370#197370


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    Time: 01:38:07 PM PST US
    From: "Allan Aaron" <aaaron@tvp.com.au>
    Subject: Re: Landing and engine pictures
    -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:12 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Landing and engine pictures I was walking by the "Air Chair" tent at Oshkosh, and couldn't resist the orange chair that almost matches my plane, so I bought it. The wing was tied down on the other side, so I was in no danger of dropping on my pratt (there's more of that English phrasing again). After I got back, I tried the chair on the plane without it being tied down, and it still didn't drop me...try that with your bungee- cord landing gears. (The former comment was a shameless plug for the Grove gear, or any other with a wider stance...the larger the pilot, the wider the stance must be) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster Jabiru 2200 Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly") do not archive On Aug 8, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote: >> From: n61kf [bkls1@earthlink.net] >> Lynn at Oshkosh worrying about the condition of his engine! > > Wow! Lynn, you're the coolest pilot I know! ... :-) > > Cheers, > Michel > Do not archive > > > <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> > > List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> > forums.matronics.com</a> > www.matronics.com/contribution</a> > > </b></font></pre>


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    Time: 04:27:46 PM PST US
    From: SUE MICHAELS <michaega@verizon.net>
    Subject: Wanted Rotary Pinking Shears.
    Looking for pinking rotary shears not the cutters. George


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    Time: 04:52:59 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Huntley" <asq@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Rotary Pinking Shears
    Stewart Systems has them. Larry http://www.stewartsystems.aero/ Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 2 AM


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    Time: 06:49:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 91 octane, time to be heard!
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi Mike, To be truthful I don't know for sure. Maybe the person at the parts store might shed a little light on the subject, maybe not. Sorry I'm just not sure without a little research. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Service Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=197457#197457


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    Time: 07:13:41 PM PST US
    From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
    Subject: Wanted Rotary Pinking Shears.
    George, Does Sue have one of those "pizza cutters" for cutting cloth against a plastic sheet? I found you can buy a pinking wheel for these and then you are off to the races. Works great! Randy _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SUE MICHAELS Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:26 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Wanted Rotary Pinking Shears. Looking for pinking rotary shears not the cutters. George




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