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1. 12:07 AM - (Off-topic) Ancient computers. WAS 100LL/Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (Michel Verheughe)
2. 12:38 AM - Re: (Off-topic) Ancient computers. WAS 100LL/Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (Michael Gibbs)
3. 04:03 AM - Re: Re Gear leg steps (Lynn Matteson)
4. 04:12 AM - Re: (Off-topic) Ancient computers. WAS 100LL/Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (Lynn Matteson)
5. 04:20 AM - Re: Re Gear leg steps (Harold Flynn)
6. 04:39 AM - Re: Re: Ethanol - facts and no myths or fiction (Noel Loveys)
7. 04:40 AM - Re: Aveoflash strobe lights (rawheels)
8. 08:34 AM - Re: Re: Ethanol - facts and no myths or fiction (Guy Buchanan)
9. 08:34 AM - Re: (Off-topic) Ancient computers. WAS 100LL/Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (Guy Buchanan)
10. 09:03 AM - Re: Re Gear leg steps (Lynn Matteson)
11. 11:47 AM - Re: Ethanol - facts and no myths or fiction (bjones@dmv.com)
12. 03:35 PM - Re: Re: Ethanol - facts and no myths or fiction (Lowell Fitt)
13. 03:56 PM - Re: RK400 Clutch (Marco Menezes)
14. 05:05 PM - Avid Kit (Frank Miles)
15. 06:07 PM - Re: Avid Kit (J.G. Joern)
16. 07:04 PM - Free Wheeling Prop (jeff puls)
17. 07:47 PM - Look out below (nick4853)
18. 08:20 PM - Re: Re Gear leg steps (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
19. 08:20 PM - Re: Re: Aveoflash strobe lights (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
20. 08:46 PM - Re: Free Wheeling Prop (Lowell Fitt)
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| Subject: | (Off-topic) Ancient computers. WAS 100LL/Ethanol Myths - |
Facts and/or fiction?
> From: Noel Loveys [noelloveys@yahoo.ca]
>My first computer, a TRS 80, only had 32 Kb of memory
Good Lord, are you that old, Noel? :-)
I started in 1979 with a Commodore Pet with also 32 Kb of memory but it had a different
processor than the Tandy. I still have it somewhere in my basement. Maybe
one day it will be a collectable item and worth a lot of money ... (wishful
thinking! :-)
Incidentally, yesterday came the official paper that I've lost my pilot license.
I start now the legal process of trying to get it again ... one day. I know
that some have got it back but it may take years ... :-(
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 ... grounded
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| Subject: | Re: (Off-topic) Ancient computers. WAS 100LL/Ethanol Myths |
- Facts and/or fiction?
Michel sez:
>I start now the legal process of trying to get [my pilot's license]
>again ... one day. I know that some have got it back but it may take
>years ... :-(
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, Michel. Good luck!
Mike G.
N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
Phoenix, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Re Gear leg steps |
My instructions calls for "the landing gear on the Speedster needs to
be fitted prior to the covering of the landing gear leg." But it does
call for nut plates as the fastening method, drilled right into that
"angle welded in the legs for this purpose." So you're right, there
is a plate or angle welded between the tubes for the purposes of
attaching your step. They also show a flat shield 4" x 7", by .016"
2024-T3 aluminum, with one corner trimmed off by 1 and 1/2" to match
the angle of the gear leg. This shield is slid behind the step (and
is held in place with the step-attaching bolts) and is to keep your
feet from getting against the fabric. Could you cut a hole in the
back side of the fabric to facilitate the nut plate installation?
Then you could cut a circle of fabric to cover the holes in the
fabric when done. They call for driven rivets to hold the nut plates
in place, but I think to save having such a large hole as that
operation would require, I'd use stainless POP rivets if they come in
the size needed for the nut plates...usually 3/32".
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
do not archive
On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:29 PM, gary.algate@sandvik.com wrote:
>
> Lynn
>
> Do you have any info as to how the Aluminum angle steps are
> fastened to the gear legs.
>
> Mine are fully faired but I can feel what appears to be a flat
> cross brace under the covering at about the right height. I was
> wondering whether Skystar recommended bolting through or just
> riveting to the tube gear. I'm always reluctant drilling holes in
> aircraft structures so I thought I would check first.
>
> best regards
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
> Classic 4 jab 2200
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
>
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| Subject: | Re: (Off-topic) Ancient computers. WAS 100LL/Ethanol Myths |
- Facts and/or fiction?
I started out with a Timex-Sinclair which had 8k of memory as I
recall, and I had to add a memory "box" of some sort to hop it up to
a screaming 16k...whoopee! I later...with guidance...fitted a real
keyboard to it...lotsa wires to solder in place, but it worked just
dandy. And I still have it. In fact, I made a wooden frame to
surround the keyboard, too. Trouble was the damn things changed every
few days...the computers in those days, that is...and I got tired of
trying to keep up, so I quit trying, and became a computer recluse,
refusing to mess with the damn things until the last 10-12 years or
so...and now I'm a Mac fan just like Michel. : ) ...but nowhere NEAR
as smart.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
do not archive
On Aug 19, 2008, at 3:06 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote:
>> From: Noel Loveys [noelloveys@yahoo.ca]
>> My first computer, a TRS 80, only had 32 Kb of memory
>
> Good Lord, are you that old, Noel? :-)
> I started in 1979 with a Commodore Pet with also 32 Kb of memory
> but it had a different processor than the Tandy. I still have it
> somewhere in my basement. Maybe one day it will be a collectable
> item and worth a lot of money ... (wishful thinking! :-)
>
> Incidentally, yesterday came the official paper that I've lost my
> pilot license. I start now the legal process of trying to get it
> again ... one day. I know that some have got it back but it may
> take years ... :-(
>
> Cheers,
> Michel Verheughe
> Norway
> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 ... grounded
>
> Do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: Re Gear leg steps |
Why not use a rivet nut?
--- On Tue, 8/19/08, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re Gear leg steps
My instructions calls for "the landing gear on the Speedster needs to
be fitted prior to the covering of the landing gear leg." But it does
call for nut plates as the fastening method, drilled right into that
"angle welded in the legs for this purpose." So you're right,
there
is a plate or angle welded between the tubes for the purposes of
attaching your step. They also show a flat shield 4" x 7", by
.016"
2024-T3 aluminum, with one corner trimmed off by 1 and 1/2" to match
the angle of the gear leg. This shield is slid behind the step (and
is held in place with the step-attaching bolts) and is to keep your
feet from getting against the fabric. Could you cut a hole in the
back side of the fabric to facilitate the nut plate installation?
Then you could cut a circle of fabric to cover the holes in the
fabric when done. They call for driven rivets to hold the nut plates
in place, but I think to save having such a large hole as that
operation would require, I'd use stainless POP rivets if they come in
the size needed for the nut plates...usually 3/32".
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
do not archive
On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:29 PM, gary.algate@sandvik.com wrote:
>
> Lynn
>
> Do you have any info as to how the Aluminum angle steps are
> fastened to the gear legs.
>
> Mine are fully faired but I can feel what appears to be a flat
> cross brace under the covering at about the right height. I was
> wondering whether Skystar recommended bolting through or just
> riveting to the tube gear. I'm always reluctant drilling holes in
> aircraft structures so I thought I would check first.
>
> best regards
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
> Classic 4 jab 2200
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol - facts and no myths or fiction |
Alcohol boils off at around 80C, water at 100C To distil the alcohol and leave
the water just boil to 80C using a candy thermometer in the mash. You will
get a good flow through the condenser then it will slow down to almost nothing
until the remaining water reaches 100C when you see the slow down toss the mash
and start another batch. This will give better than 98% alcohol depending
on how fast you remove the distilled booze and how cold your condenser is.
When in high school we made pretty good potato mash after hours (boarding school)
in the chem. Lab using all the nice glass equipment.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Espuny
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:55 PM
Subject: RES: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol - facts and no myths or fiction
I think that while distiling you should be testing density to "cut" it at the right
time and not get too much water inside, no need to worry about the proper
temp, just boil it.
But I'm wondering if in my case wouldn't it be safer to run an aero engine certified
for AVGAS, and I could do the maintainance myself if installed in a experimental
plane ("myself" means not enriching the certified hangars and paying
the right price for a good and honest mechanic service).
It's more confortable for me , once I'm looking for my plane/engine set. It'd be
hard if I yet had it inside the hangar.
AVGAS is the only option we have that may not change, as it's an international
standard to be used everywhere by pilots from any country.
-----Mensagem original-----
De: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] Em nome de Noel Loveys
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 18 de agosto de 2008 21:08
Para: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Assunto: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol - facts and no myths or fiction
I have been told 87 not sure whether that is RON or MON
About the water/eth it will not burn... unless you distil it again. Espuny could
do that and burn the recovered eth in his car in effect lowering the cost of
his flying fuel. It's been a long time since I distilled alcohol ( all the
way back to high school) but I think it distils at 80C, standard pressure.
Noel
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| Subject: | Re: Aveoflash strobe lights |
Gary,
It is my understanding that LED strobes do not require separate power supplies,
everything is contained on the board in the light assembly. All they require
is a 18AWG wire to each light. If you have a power supply in each wingtip, remove
them, and just connect the LED strobes to the regular 14 volt wires.
--------
Ryan Wheeler
Kitfox IV-1200
Indianapolis, IN
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199479#199479
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol - facts and no myths or fiction |
At 04:39 AM 8/19/2008, you wrote:
>When in high school we made pretty good potato mash after hours
>(boarding school) in the chem. Lab using all the nice glass equipment.
And though this thread is wandering in more interesting
directions, I think the ethanol/100LL fuel discussion has been beaten
into submission and I will ask everyone to give it a rest for a while.
Thanks,
Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: (Off-topic) Ancient computers. WAS 100LL/Ethanol Myths |
- Facts and/or fiction?
At 04:12 AM 8/19/2008, you wrote:
>and I got tired of
>trying to keep up, so I quit trying, and became a computer recluse,
>refusing to mess with the damn things until the last 10-12 years or
>so...and now I'm a Mac fan just like Michel. : ) ...but nowhere NEAR
>as smart.
Thanks, guys, for changing the title, but I'm going to ask
you to take it off line, as it's definitely not Kitfox related. (I
will certainly entertain it if one of you plans to install a computer
in your Kitfox!)
Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Re Gear leg steps |
I've had aircraft mechanics say that they can loosen and then turn
within the hole, leaving you with no easy way to remove the bolt.
Since then I've seen the rivet nut up close and they seem to be ok,
and I guess I'd use them if it was in a location where I could deal
with it if it became a problem. My first choice would be the nut
plate, though. It seems more secure to me.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
On Aug 19, 2008, at 7:19 AM, Harold Flynn wrote:
> Why not use a rivet nut?
>
> --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
> From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re Gear leg steps
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 7:01 AM
>
> My instructions calls for "the landing gear on the Speedster needs
> to be fitted prior to the covering of the landing gear leg." But it
> does call for nut plates as the fastening method, drilled right
> into that "angle welded in the legs for this purpose." So you're
> right, there is a plate or angle welded between the tubes for the
> purposes of attaching your step. They also show a flat shield 4" x
> 7", by .016" 2024-T3 aluminum, with one corner trimmed off by 1 and
> 1/2" to match the angle of the gear leg. This shield is slid behind
> the step (and is held in place with the step-attaching bolts) and
> is to keep your feet from getting against the fabric. Could you cut
> a hole in the back side of the fabric to facilitate the nut plate
> installation? Then you could cut a circle of fabric to cover the
> holes in the fabric when done. They call for driven rivets to hold
> the nut plates in place, but I think to save having such a large
> hole as that operation would require, I'd use stainless POP rivets
> if they come in the size needed for the nut plates...usually 3/32".
> Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding
> for repairs Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to
> try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly") do not archive On Aug 18,
> 2008, at 11:29 PM, gary.algate@sandvik.com wrote: > > Lynn > > Do
> you have any info as to how the Aluminum angle steps are > fastened
> to the gear legs. > > Mine are fully faired but I can feel what
> appears to be a flat > cross brace under the covering at about the
> right height. I was > wondering whether Skystar recommended bolting
> through or just > riveting to the tube gear. I'm always reluctant
> drilling holes in > aircraft structures so I thought I would check
> first. > > best regards > > Gary > > Gary Algate > Classic 4 jab
> 2200 > Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655 > > > This e-mail is
> confidential and it is intended only for the > addressees. Any
> review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of > this message
> by persons or entities other than the intended > recipient is
> prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, > kindly
> notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the >
> message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for
> > any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may
> > arise as a result of the e-mail transmission. _- >
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| Subject: | Ethanol - facts and no myths or fiction |
Local gasoline distributer technicians in my area (Maryland) report that
alcohol is not added to thier gasoline until the tanker truck is leaving to
drop gas at local gas stations so that the ethanol does not have an opportunity
to absorb water during handling, transportation and storage until it leaves the
distributer.
Regional Gas stations still had complaints about settleout with cars stalled
right at the gas station pupms and short distances away. The gas station were
supposed to have run their tanks down to 10 % straight gas and removed all
water prior to converting to ethanol blended gas to avoid settleout but I got a
load of gas with settleout right from the station in a new clean container. By
the way The settleout went thru a funnel with the internal fine mesh stand pipe
intended to catch water. The handling and transportation of Av-Gas is far more
strictly controlled than auto gas, accounting for part of the higher price for
Av-Gas.
Bjones
N154K
443-480-1023
Quoting Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>:
>
> I'll answer your question with a question... What's wrong with using a
> mixture of say 3/4 washed gas to remove the ethanol and 1/4 100LL? That way
> you get a very low lead content fuel with no ethanol and an octane rating of
> greater than 91.
>
> Someone mentioned on this thread that gas will absorb water... They then
> went on to describe something less than .05%. After thinking on it a while
> I've come up with three considerations. 1 the gas is only able to absorb a
> very small limited amount of water where ethanol will dissolve and dilute in
> any quantity of water. 2 the gas at your station probably is already
> saturated with whatever water it can because most gasoline has travelled
> through pipelines. Water is used in pipelines to separate shipments of
> petro shipments. 3. The ethanol you are washing out has more affinity for
> water than gas. Therefore unless you use an ocean of water to clean your gas
> the probability is you will actually remove the water content of the
> gasoline. For those reasons I have come to the conclusion that there is no
> danger of saturating your gas with water by washing the ethanol out of it.
> A worst case scenario is there will be less moisture in the fuel after
> "washing" than before "washing".
>
> Noel
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Miles
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:38 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Ethanol - facts and no myths or fiction
>
> <f.miles.tcp.833@clearwire.net>
>
> Guys, here's a dumb question, maybe. Short of just not flying, what is wrong
> with burning a mixture of 1/2 ethanol fuel and 1/2 100LL? Half as much
> ethanol and half as much low lead. How much low lead would a person have to
> burn to really harm an engine? I am speaking of only the two cycle engines.
>
> Frank Miles
> K-lll w/ 582
> Clarkston, Washington
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K&MCozik
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 2:45 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Ethanol - facts and no myths or fiction
>
>
> I agree Bob. Not sure how others are getting away with ethanol but the fuel
> that
> started dissolving my tank was 10%. My guess is the guys using car gas
> without
> issue have less than 1 or 2% ethanol, if any at all.
>
> I'll stick with 100LL since ethanol free is impossible to find here in
> Michigan.
> Kevin Cozik
> Series 6-7
> 914 turbo
> Czech floats
> Lansing MI
>
>
> On Sun Aug 17 13:25 , 'Bob Brennan' <matronics@bob.brennan.name> sent:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Personally measured
> >and observed facts anyway, and as little opinion as
> >possible.
> >B
> >Getting ready for my
> >first flight since importing my KF2 from the UK almost 2 years ago, I
> decided to
> >take what knowledge I had gained from the ethanol debates and apply it, and
> I am
> >glad that I did. Here is what I have found so far:
> >B
> >In the UK I used
> >"regular" petrol rated at 89 octane and I never tested for ethanol,
> although my
> >UK built plane is placarded in a number of places warning *not* to use fuel
> with
> >any alcohol in it.
> >B
> >I periodically
> >ran-up the engine for a year and a half on US regular gas bought a year and
> a
> >half ago. I know - stale gas, bad move, yada yada... I have already
> chastised
> >myself on that one.
> >B
> >I bought new
> >"regular" (87 octane, Sam's Club) about a month ago and drained the system
> of
> >the old gas. I then began noticing dark fuel and black sediment when
> draining
> >the sump before starting the engine.
> >B
> >Much to my chagrin I
> >noticed my fuel drain tool, bought in the UK years ago, was actually a
> >calibrated alcohol tester so I decided to buy and test some local fuel to
> find
> >something acceptable to fly with. Here is what I found, on this date in
> >Wrightsville &York PA:
> >B
> >Sam's Club Regular -
> >$3.44/gal - stated as 87 octane - tested as 6% ethanol
> >Rutter's
> >PremiumB - $3.85/gal - stated as 93 octane - tested as 5%
> >ethanol
> >Turkey Hill Premium
> >- $3.75/gal - stated asB 92 octane - tested as 0%
> >ethanol
> >B
> >The Turkey Hill gas
> >is in my plane, the rest went in my Jeep, and I will buy and test Turkey
> Hill
> >regular for the rest of my gas-powered toys in future, hoping that also is
> >ethanol free. At least for now.
> >B
> >Now for an opinion -
> >contrary to listers who said they use ethanol with no problems - I assume
> my
> >short use of ethanol-laced regularB (never flying) caused a breakdown of
> >rubber fuel elements, true to warnings posted everywhere and the cause of
> the
> >drained fuel contamination. I will carefully watch for any further
> contamination
> >(I expect a little yet) and will then replace lines and filter(s). Note
> that I
> >never ran the engine until all contaminants were drained
> >out.
> >B
> >As stated throughout
> >- this is all "for what it's worth" - but I try to base it on experience
> rather
> >than opinion, andB can post more test results if anyone is interested. Live
>
> >and loin, I always say...
> >B
> >B
> >Bob Brennan
> >1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
> >Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
> >Wrightsville Pa
> >B
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol - facts and no myths or fiction |
Noel,
Makes me wonder. The lawn sprinkled this morning and the overspray
disappeard from the sidewalks pretty promptly and it wasn't anything near
80C, let alone 100C.
Lowell
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:39 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol - facts and no myths or fiction
>
> Alcohol boils off at around 80C, water at 100C To distil the alcohol and
> leave the water just boil to 80C using a candy thermometer in the mash.
> You will get a good flow through the condenser then it will slow down to
> almost nothing until the remaining water reaches 100C when you see the
> slow down toss the mash and start another batch. This will give better
> than 98% alcohol depending on how fast you remove the distilled booze and
> how cold your condenser is.
>
> When in high school we made pretty good potato mash after hours (boarding
> school) in the chem. Lab using all the nice glass equipment.
>
> Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Espuny
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:55 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RES: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol - facts and no myths or fiction
>
> <espuny@terra.com.br>
>
> I think that while distiling you should be testing density to "cut" it at
> the right time and not get too much water inside, no need to worry about
> the proper temp, just boil it.
> But I'm wondering if in my case wouldn't it be safer to run an aero engine
> certified for AVGAS, and I could do the maintainance myself if installed
> in a experimental plane ("myself" means not enriching the certified
> hangars and paying the right price for a good and honest mechanic
> service).
> It's more confortable for me , once I'm looking for my plane/engine set.
> It'd be hard if I yet had it inside the hangar.
> AVGAS is the only option we have that may not change, as it's an
> international standard to be used everywhere by pilots from any country.
>
>
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] Em nome de Noel Loveys
> Enviada em: segunda-feira, 18 de agosto de 2008 21:08
> Para: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Assunto: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol - facts and no myths or fiction
>
>
> I have been told 87 not sure whether that is RON or MON
>
> About the water/eth it will not burn... unless you distil it again.
> Espuny could do that and burn the recovered eth in his car in effect
> lowering the cost of his flying fuel. It's been a long time since I
> distilled alcohol ( all the way back to high school) but I think it
> distils at 80C, standard pressure.
>
> Noel
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RK400 Clutch |
It will make your-582 run much smoother at idle, though-you may have tr
ouble getting it to idle slow enough (<2400 rpm) once warmed up, for the cl
utch to disengage. I did.
-
Sometimes I-consider the effect the freewheeling prop will have on glide
in the event of a complete engine failure. I've been-told it would be abo
ut the same, drag-wise, as a solid disk on the nose of the plane. Obviously
, not a desirable condition.
-
Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-Box
--- On Sun, 8/17/08, Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> wrote:
From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RK400 Clutch
At 11:52 AM 8/17/2008, you wrote:
Anyone using or have an opinion about switching to a RK400 clutch? I need t
o replace my hardy disk (not sure yet why it came apart) and was considerin
g going to a clutch instead. Any help would be appreciated.
Love it, love it, love it. Wouldn't be without it. HOWEVER:
1. I haven't reached the useful life of the first unit and have not had any
good information from the makers on how to tell when to replace it. (Other
than the prop stops turning.) Still working on this one.
2. I recently had to replace my gearbox seals and bearings. There is some c
oncern that the clutch dust causes the lower rear seal to fail pre-maturely
, and that once it fails the dust migrates into the box and eats the bearin
gs and other seals. (Some evidence of that in my engine.) My seals and bear
ings lasted about 230 hours. We're now on iteration number two so we'll see
what happens. Fortunately you get a lot of notice of failure. Also fortuna
tely a gearbox re-build is fairly cheap, if you work hard to find the beari
ngs and seals elsewhere than Rotax. (Pretty good success last time.)
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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I have friend looking for an unfinished Avid kit or one that is need of
repair. Prefers the high lift wing or heavy hauler model. Does not need or
want an engine. Anybody know of such a thing?
Frank Miles
Clarkston, Washington
K-lll w/582
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I saw a 1993 Avid Flyer for sale in Kalispell, MT. Phone number is (406)
261-5399
Jeff Joern
Whitefish, MT
----- Original Message -----
From: Frank Miles
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:59 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Avid Kit
I have friend looking for an unfinished Avid kit or one that is need
of repair. Prefers the high lift wing or heavy hauler model. Does not
need or want an engine. Anybody know of such a thing?
Frank Miles
Clarkston, Washington
K-lll w/582
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| Subject: | Free Wheeling Prop |
What happens when you can turn the prop and it just keeps cycling and
then about 100 rotations later you feel a little compression. It flies
fine at high RPMS. My friend has a speedster with a 912 in it. Any
thoughts, he is at his wits end. He is ready to pull the heads. Thanks.
Jeff Classic IV KTZR
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I'm a new member of the club just passed my practical test. I bought my plane
in April replaced the GSC with a Warp taper tip I contacted the Baltimore Fsdo
requesting a 5 hour phase one. The contacted me back saying my plane did not
exist. I told them I have an Airworthiness a Registration and a set of Operating
Limitations. I sent copies to them and the best explanation was that they
ended up in some other airplanes file. Well it took a couple of months of
back and forth phone calls for them to come up with a plan. Which was to have
me do a new condition inspection, and the Faa inspector personally came out to
look at the plane and logs. They knew they had egg on their face otherwise
they would have made me pay for a DAR. So three months later I have a brand new
plane according to the faa. I hired my instructor to fly the five hours off
of the prop. That was August 2 since than I put 20+ hours on it 13 was with
him. I now have my sport pilot license and life is good!! I have been blessed
to have a wonderfully talented and seasoned instructor who has over 7000 hours
and has been flying his champ since 1966 he has taught me a great deal and
now I have my license to learn. I Look forward to meeting you guys in the future
until then thanks.
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kitfox !V-1200
Rotax 912ul
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| Subject: | Re: Re Gear leg steps |
Thanks Lynn,
I finished painting the wheel pants last night - I ended up using epoxy
undercoat followed by the Polytone thinned with Lacquer thinners with the
first coat applied while the Epoxy was still tacky. Actually it went
really well and the bond appears to be excellent.
I've made up the step and will either use a rivet nut as Harold suggests
or if necessary cut the covering and just bolt it in place
I was initially thinking of using some 3/16" Stainless rivets but given
the loads, bolting is probably the best option.
Thanks to all
Gary
Gary Algate
Classic 4 jab 2200
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| Subject: | Re: Aveoflash strobe lights |
Thanks Ryan
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Kitfox-List: Re: Aveoflash strobe lights
Gary,
It is my understanding that LED strobes do not require separate power
supplies, everything is contained on the board in the light assembly. All
they require is a 18AWG wire to each light. If you have a power supply in
each wingtip, remove them, and just connect the LED strobes to the regular
14 volt wires.
--------
Ryan Wheeler
Kitfox IV-1200
Indianapolis, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Free Wheeling Prop |
Jeff, had this happen to me once. We were on our way to Oshkosh and
stopped in wyoming for fuel. It was after fueling that the prop felt like a
turbine was behind it. One of our guys is a heavy machine maint. tech in
the mining industry of Nevada. His suggestion was a touch of Marvel Mystery
Oil so we went into town, but no luck finding it. As second best, he
suggested a couple of quarts of automatic transmission fluid, one in each
fuel tank.
After the mentioned 100 or so rotations, it came to life. We took an
evening flight around the countryside and never a problem since. I did have
one light cylinder from time to time before that. We thought it was
sticking valves. Incidentally, on cross country flights we were using
100LL. There have been several accounts of list members using Marvel
Mystery Oil from time to time. I always carried with me after that, but
never used it.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "jeff puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:03 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Free Wheeling Prop
What happens when you can turn the prop and it just keeps cycling and then
about 100 rotations later you feel a little compression. It flies fine at
high RPMS. My friend has a speedster with a 912 in it. Any thoughts, he is
at his wits end. He is ready to pull the heads. Thanks. Jeff Classic IV KTZR
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