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     1. 04:04 AM - Re: Header tank location (Lynn Matteson)
     2. 07:47 AM - Avatar test (Tom Jones)
     3. 08:53 AM - Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an (darinh)
     4. 10:04 AM - Re: Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an (Dee Young)
     5. 10:16 AM - Re: Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an (darinh)
     6. 11:27 AM - Re: Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an (Donroutledge@aol.com)
     7. 06:14 PM - Runway marker question (Tom Jones)
     8. 06:40 PM - Markers (steve shinabery)
     9. 06:57 PM - Re: Runway marker question (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
    10. 06:59 PM - Re: Markers (Tom Jones)
    11. 07:21 PM - Re: Re: Markers (steve shinabery)
    12. 08:40 PM - Re: Header tank location (patrick reilly)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Header tank location | 
      
      
      The drain is right in the very bottom of the header tank, and is a  
      "sensible drain" in my opinion...that is, the floor of the tank dips  
      down to the drain, unlike the wing tank  drain locations, which look  
      like they dip down but they don't. Also, the fuel outlet is about 1"  
      at least above this location, so you have a large capacity for gunk  
      to locate before it EVER would get high enough to go out the fuel  
      outlet hole.
      I set my tank up so that the quick drain is right at the fabric  
      surface, then reinforced the fabric around the hole, and used a  
      plastic ring around that hole that has a flange on it for gluing to  
      the fabric.
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Kitfox IV Speedster
      Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
      Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try."  (Pink  
      Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
      
      
      On Aug 28, 2008, at 11:00 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
      
      > Lynn, Where is the drain located and access point.  If I move my  
      > tank to the lower position or get a new one, a sump drain sounds  
      > like a great idea.
      > Do not archive
      >
      > Pat
      >
      > > From: lynnmatt@jps.net
      > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Header tank location
      > > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:05:27 -0400
      > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com; patreilly43@hotmail.com
      > >
      > >
      > > Yes, Pat, I have a "quickdrain" I think it's called, and I use it to
      > > sump the header to check for water....VERY seldom ever finding any.
      > > It was suggested here that the drains in the wing tanks are just
      > > another source of leaks, and that the drain in the low-mounted  
      > header
      > > tank serves the same purpose. In fact, it serves a better
      > > purpose...it gets any moisture that might get into the system  
      > between
      > > the wing tanks and the header tank.
      > >
      > > Lynn Matteson
      > > Kitfox IV Speedster
      > > Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
      > > Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
      > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:12 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
      > >
      > > > Lynn, Thanks for the info. Do you have a drain on the bottom of  
      > the
      > > > header? I was told that with the header lower, the chance of
      > > > loosing pressure with low wing tank volume, you stand less of a
      > > > chance of gas flow quiting. My plane has a gascolator on the
      > > > firewall. I guess I will use it with the 582.
      > > >
      > > > Pat Do not archive
      > > >
      > > > > From: lynnmatt@jps.net
      > > > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Header tank location
      > > > > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:24:43 -0400
      > > > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > > > >
      > <lynnmatt@jps.net>
      > > > >
      > > > > Pat-
      > > > >
      > > > > For me it serves as a "gascolator".....the final (I hope)  
      > resting
      > > > > place for any water that might have found its way into the
      > > > system. (I
      > > > > have a filter in each line coming into this tank, and one  
      > after, to
      > > > > catch any dirt.)
      > > > >
      > > > > Lynn Matteson
      > > > > Kitfox IV Speedster
      > > > > Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
      > > > > Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
      > > > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > On Aug 27, 2008, at 11:44 PM, Pat Reilly wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > > Kitfoxers, My mod 3 has the header tank located high behind  
      > the
      > > > > > seats. The current models have the header tank located low  
      > behind
      > > > > > the co-pilots seat. Is there an advantage to the new lower
      > > > location?
      > > > > >
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      did it work
      
      --------
      Tom Jones
      Classic IV
      503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
      Ellensburg, WA
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1434#201434
      
      
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| Subject:  | Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an | 
      
      
      I have a set of Temco tires and Cheng Shin tubes for an 8" rim that were given
      to me.  I don't have any use for them so I would like to pass them on.  First
      one to respond gets them for the cost of shipping.
      
      --------
      Darin Hawkes
      Series 7 (Phase 1 - Flight Testing)
      914 Turbo
      Kaysville, Utah
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1449#201449
      
      
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| Subject:  | Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an | 
      
      I would love to get them if I am not to late.
      
      Dee
      
      
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an> From:
       gerns25@netscape.net> Date: Fri=2C 29 Aug 2008 08:49:10 -0700> To: kitfox-
      netscape.net>> > I have a set of Temco tires and Cheng Shin tubes for an 8"
       rim that were given to me. I don't have any use for them so I would like t
      o pass them on. First one to respond gets them for the cost of shipping.> >
       --------> Darin Hawkes> Series 7 (Phase 1 - Flight Testing)> 914 Turbo> Ka
      ysville=2C Utah> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matr
      ========================> >
       > 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an | 
      
      
      Wow, that was fast.  They are gone and Dee had the fastest fingers by a few minutes.
      
      --------
      Darin Hawkes
      Series 7 (Phase 1 - Flight Testing)
      914 Turbo
      Kaysville, Utah
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1465#201465
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an | 
      
      I will take them Darin. please contact off line. Thanks, Don
      
      
      In a message dated 8/29/2008 10:55:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
      gerns25@netscape.net writes:
      
      -->  Kitfox-List message posted by: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
      
      I  have a set of Temco tires and Cheng Shin tubes for an 8" rim that were 
      given  to me.  I don't have any use for them so I would like to pass them  on.
      
      First one to respond gets them for the cost of  shipping.
      
      --------
      Darin Hawkes
      Series 7 (Phase 1 - Flight  Testing)
      914 Turbo
      Kaysville, Utah
      
      
      Read this topic  online  here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1449#201449
      
      
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| Subject:  | Runway marker question | 
      
      
      I want to start introducing my kitfox to some turf runways so I walked into the
      Easton Wash. airstrip today.  I wanted to walk the runway and check the condition
      before I land there.
      
      There are orange and black checkered markers midway on the edge of the field. 
      Do these mean something special except "Don't run into the trees".  I can't find
      anything about them anywhere.
      http://www.airnav.com/airport/KESW
      
      Pictures attached.
      
      The runway is in excellent condition if anyone was wondering.
      
      --------
      Tom Jones
      Classic IV
      503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
      Ellensburg, WA
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1534#201534
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com//files/easton_runway_markers_640.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/easton_markers_closeup_164.jpg
      
      
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      May be 1/2 way point,,may be app.zone on final.   be cause of all the 
      trees?  Steve Shinabery N554KF  KF2
      
      
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| Subject:  | Runway marker question | 
      
      
      I just looked in my Pilot's handbook of aeronautical knowledge book and it 
      didn't show anything like that.  I'm just guessing=2C but if it's at midfie
      ld=2C it might be a way of saying  "if you're not down=2C go around"..  esp
      ecially concidering the trees at the end.   Just a guess though=2C I just g
      ot back from an hour flying in the Avid a bit ago=2C and I'm in a good mood
      !!  Jim Chuk  Avid flying  Kitfox 4 building   Mn> Subject: Kitfox-List: Ru
      nway marker question> From: nahsikhs@elltel.net> Date: Fri=2C 29 Aug 2008 1
      8:13:25 -0700> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > --> Kitfox-List message pos
      ted by: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>> > I want to start introducing my
       kitfox to some turf runways so I walked into the Easton Wash. airstrip tod
      ay. I wanted to walk the runway and check the condition before I land there
      .> > There are orange and black checkered markers midway on the edge of the
       field. Do these mean something special except "Don't run into the trees". 
      I can't find anything about them anywhere.> http://www.airnav.com/airport/K
      ESW> > Pictures attached.> > The runway is in excellent condition if anyone
       was wondering.> > --------> Tom Jones> Classic IV> 503 Rotax=2C 72 inch Tw
      o blade Warp> Ellensburg=2C WA> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > htt
      p://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1534#201534> > > > > Attachmen
      ts: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/easton_runway_markers_640.jpg> h
      ttp://forums.matronics.com//files/easton_markers_closeup_164.jpg> > > > > _
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      shinco(at)bright.net wrote:
      > May be 1/2 way point,,may be app.zone on final.   be cause of all the 
      > trees?  Steve Shinabery N554KF  KF2
      
      
      Okay the 1/2 way point makes sense.  Thats where they are located. There are trees
      on both ends.  One would not want to lift off too late.
      
      --------
      Tom Jones
      Classic IV
      503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
      Ellensburg, WA
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1543#201543
      
      
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      Tom Jones wrote:
      >
      >
      > shinco(at)bright.net wrote:
      >   
      >> May be 1/2 way point,,may be app.zone on final.   be cause of all the 
      >> trees?  Steve Shinabery N554KF  KF2
      >>     
      >
      >
      > Okay the 1/2 way point makes sense.  Thats where they are located. There are
      trees on both ends.  One would not want to lift off too late.
      >
      > --------
      > Tom Jones
      > Classic IV
      > 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
      > Ellensburg, WA
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1543#201543
      >
      >
      >   
      > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      >
      >
      > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
      >
      >   
      Nice Picture of your new air strip..that looks like heaven there..what a 
      cool place to fly out of...Steve Shinabery N554KF,,KF2   home of the 
      Great Lakes Area Kit Fox Fly In. 2009
      
      
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| Subject:  | Header tank location | 
      
      
      Lynn=2C Is your's an aluminum or plastic tank? Where did you get it? Did yo
      u install the sump drain in the tank=2C or was it in the tank when you boug
      ht it?
      
      Pat Reilly
      Mod 3 582 Rebuild
      Rockford=2C IL> From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Header ta
      nk location> Date: Fri=2C 29 Aug 2008 07:04:29 -0400> To: kitfox-list@matro
      net>> > The drain is right in the very bottom of the header tank=2C and is 
      a > "sensible drain" in my opinion...that is=2C the floor of the tank dips 
      > down to the drain=2C unlike the wing tank drain locations=2C which look >
       like they dip down but they don't. Also=2C the fuel outlet is about 1" > a
      t least above this location=2C so you have a large capacity for gunk > to l
      ocate before it EVER would get high enough to go out the fuel > outlet hole
      .> I set my tank up so that the quick drain is right at the fabric > surfac
      e=2C then reinforced the fabric around the hole=2C and used a > plastic rin
      g around that hole that has a flange on it for gluing to > the fabric.> > L
      ynn Matteson> Kitfox IV Speedster> Jabiru 2200=2C 562 hrs and holding for r
      epairs> Status: "Condition grounded=2C but determined to try." (Pink > Floy
      d..."Learning to Fly")> > > > > > On Aug 28=2C 2008=2C at 11:00 PM=2C patri
      ck reilly wrote:> > > Lynn=2C Where is the drain located and access point. 
      If I move my > > tank to the lower position or get a new one=2C a sump drai
      n sounds > > like a great idea.> > Do not archive> >> > Pat> >> > > From: l
      ynnmatt@jps.net> > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Header tank location> > > Da
      te: Thu=2C 28 Aug 2008 20:05:27 -0400> > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com=3B
      Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>> > >> > > Yes=2C Pat=2C I have a "quickdrain" I
       think it's called=2C and I use it to> > > sump the header to check for wat
      er....VERY seldom ever finding any.> > > It was suggested here that the dra
      ins in the wing tanks are just> > > another source of leaks=2C and that the
       drain in the low-mounted > > header> > > tank serves the same purpose. In 
      fact=2C it serves a better> > > purpose...it gets any moisture that might g
      et into the system > > between> > > the wing tanks and the header tank.> > 
      >> > > Lynn Matteson> > > Kitfox IV Speedster> > > Jabiru 2200=2C 562 hrs a
      nd holding for repairs> > > Status: "Condition grounded=2C but determined t
      o try." (Pink> > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly")> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >
       On Aug 28=2C 2008=2C at 6:12 PM=2C patrick reilly wrote:> > >> > > > Lynn
      =2C Thanks for the info. Do you have a drain on the bottom of > > the> > > 
      > header? I was told that with the header lower=2C the chance of> > > > loo
      sing pressure with low wing tank volume=2C you stand less of a> > > > chanc
      e of gas flow quiting. My plane has a gascolator on the> > > > firewall. I 
      guess I will use it with the 582.> > > >> > > > Pat Do not archive> > > >> 
      > > > > From: lynnmatt@jps.net> > > > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Header ta
      nk location> > > > > Date: Thu=2C 28 Aug 2008 06:24:43 -0400> > > > > To: k
      itfox-list@matronics.com> > > > >> > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted b
      y: Lynn Matteson > > <lynnmatt@jps.net>> > > > >> > > > > Pat-> > > > >> > 
      > > > For me it serves as a "gascolator".....the final (I hope) > > resting
      > > > > > place for any water that might have found its way into the> > > >
       system. (I> > > > > have a filter in each line coming into this tank=2C an
      d one > > after=2C to> > > > > catch any dirt.)> > > > >> > > > > Lynn Matt
      eson> > > > > Kitfox IV Speedster> > > > > Jabiru 2200=2C 562 hrs and holdi
      ng for repairs> > > > > Status: "Condition grounded=2C but determined to tr
      y." (Pink> > > > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly")> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >
       > > >> > > > > On Aug 27=2C 2008=2C at 11:44 PM=2C Pat Reilly wrote:> > > 
      > >> > > > > > Kitfoxers=2C My mod 3 has the header tank located high behin
      d > > the> > > > > > seats. The current models have the header tank located
       low > > behind> > > > > > the co-pilots seat. Is there an advantage to the
       new lower> > > > location?> > > > > >> > > > > > Pat Reilly> > > > > > Mod
       3 582 Rebuild> > > > > > Rockf> > > > > > ==========
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