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1. 08:05 AM - Re: Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire? (Pete Christensen)
2. 05:48 PM - Re: 912s installation (Noel Loveys)
3. 05:59 PM - Re: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 (patrick reilly)
4. 06:21 PM - Re: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 (Marco Menezes)
5. 06:26 PM - Re: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 (Tom Jones)
6. 06:32 PM - Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire? (Tom Jones)
7. 06:46 PM - Re: Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an (bigboyzt0yz)
8. 06:51 PM - Re: Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire? (Noel Loveys)
9. 07:02 PM - Re: Re: Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an (steve eccles)
10. 07:30 PM - Re: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 (Francisco Drovetta)
11. 07:30 PM - Re: Re: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 (Francisco Drovetta)
12. 08:47 PM - RES: Re: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 (Francisco Espuny)
13. 09:08 PM - Re: Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an (darinh)
14. 09:38 PM - Re: Sat 8/30/08 Marion Ind.,Fly In (jeff puls)
15. 11:01 PM - Official Kitfox-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
16. 11:06 PM - Official Kitfox-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire? |
On my VW dunebuggy I used to put a 2X6 about 3' long on the tire as a ramp
and drive my car up to break the bead. Would this work?
Pete
----- Original Message -----
From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:33 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?
>
>
>> Can an ATV dealer break the bead? What would I need to do myself if I
>> don't have the tools?
>>
>> Pete
>>
>
>
> Yup they have the tools.
>
> The Redneck version in my opinion would not work.
> You need to get in an pry the bead past the bead lock........ it not that
> easy without the right tools.
>
> --------
> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
> Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
> http://www.cfisher.com/
> Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
> http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1823#201823
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| Subject: | 912s installation |
Sorry I didn't get them but it may have been my fault. Please send them
again to noelloveys@yahoo.ca
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chenoweth
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912s installation
Noel,
I've sent you (off list) some photos of the "adjusted" water pump cover but
I think they might have gotten caught in your spam filter. Did you get
them?
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Noel Loveys <mailto:noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912s installation
I'm in the throwes of doing just that to my model III-A which I expect is
actually closer to a model II. I'm using the model IV Dynafocal mount and
the first thing I've found is attaching the engione to the mount is probably
easier to do before installing in the plane. One other item is the cooling
hoses from the water pump to the cylinder heads will require having the
studs (45 deg) will need to be turned a bit to get a decent access to
putting the hoses on the pump. You may also need to turn the 45 deg studs
on the aft cylinders to get a decent clearance on the aft hoses. These
studs are held in place with green locktite ( penetrating) and will need to
be very carefully heated to remove, clean and reinstall in the correct
direction. It was advised to me that Llight Engine Rep[airs uses a rod
turned down on a lathe to insert into the studs for removal. I don't happen
to have a lathe or any 1" aluminium stock so I had to substitute brass and a
file. If you want to try this remember the old rule don't grind anything
that doesn't spark so use a file. It may take a lot longer but it will be
worth it.
Also be careful removing the top of the pump.. you may want to do that to
get a better grasp on the part and to remove the O-ring that is inside the
pump inlet.
Pictures following:
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| Subject: | My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 |
Fransico=2C Mui bonita!
do not archive
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford=2C IL
From: dcubj3@terra.com.brTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: Kitfox-List:
My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200Date: Sun=2C 31 Aug 2008 21:24
:53 -0300
Hi
I=B4d like to share some photos with you. My next aircraft.
More 15 days to finish and fly!
I read all emails of this list daily.
Francisco DrovettaBuilding Kitfox IV "brazilian version" with Cont O-200S
=E3o Paulo=2C SP=2C Brazil
dcubj3@terra.com.br
www.dcubj3.com.br (sorry only in portuguese)
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| Subject: | Re: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 |
Que beleza de avion Francisco!
-
Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-Box
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do not archive
--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Francisco Drovetta <dcubj3@terra.com.br> wrote:
From: Francisco Drovetta <dcubj3@terra.com.br>
Subject: Kitfox-List: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200
Hi
I=B4d like to share some photos with you. My next aircraft.
More 15 days to finish and fly!
-
I read all emails of this list daily.
-
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Francisco Drovetta
Building Kitfox IV "brazilian version" with Cont O-200
S=E3o Paulo, SP, Brazil
dcubj3@terra.com.br
-
www.dcubj3.com.br- (sorry only in portuguese)=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 |
> Hi
> Id like to share some photos with you. My next aircraft.
> More 15 days to finish and fly!
>
> I read all emails of this list daily.
>
>
> Francisco Drovetta
> Building Kitfox IV "brazilian version" with Cont O-200
> So Paulo, SP, Brazil
Francisco, I see you have made some modifications to the IV to build the "Brazilian
version" kitfox. It looks very nice! I will be watching for your reports
when it flys. I think the 0-200 may be a first in a IV.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2071#202071
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| Subject: | Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire? |
peteohms wrote:
> On my VW dunebuggy I used to put a 2X6 about 3' long on the tire as a ramp
> and drive my car up to break the bead. Would this work?
>
> Pete
> ---
Pete, it might. I have dismounted car tires using the "drive on", method, the
bumper jack method and the sledge hammer method. The kitfox wheel and tire foiled
me however. I finally surrendered and took it to the tire store (Les Schwabs)
told the guy it was an atv wheel and he dismounted the old tire, mounted
the new one and did't charge me anything.
Those Douglas wheels are getting hard to come by. I see new ones are available
but I think they have diamonds woven into them by the price I have seen quoted.
Be careful.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2074#202074
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| Subject: | Re: Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an |
If you still want to send them call me direct 443-690 3890 (will not be near a
computer) I will give you my shipping number and they can go out tomorrow.
--------
Lee Fritz in owings Mills Md. 2002 KitFox-IV Classic/912UL/Warp drive prop/100%
Complete (just adding the Extras now) /71 hours time on plane since Aug 07 "Have
your feet on the Pedals and keep reaching for the sky".
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2079#202079
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| Subject: | Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire? |
I've used everything from an old truck to my Imprezza to break down tires.
My early model Quad's tires won't fit most of the tire changers in this area
including the one at the outdoor shop. Just make sure to remove the valve
stem first and break the back of the tire first. You may have to break the
bead in steps. I knew a guy who used to mount tubeless tires with an ounce
or so of gas.... he threw it into the tire waited a minute for it to
vaporize and tossed a match in the general direction.... bang! The tire was
mounted. I don't have the kahunas to try that myself!
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?
Pete, I have broken the bead several times by putting the wheel and tire on
the ground over a patch of old carpet and driving the front tire of my truck
onto it. It helps to have a guide man - my wife, in my case. It takes a
while and be careful you don't cut your truck tire or bend the ATV rim. I
never did, but was careful. I did once try one of the small tire changing
units from Harbor Freight and damaged the rim where the grease cup
attatches. I fixed it with a lathe.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Christensen" <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?
> <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Can an ATV dealer break the bead? What would I need to do myself if I
> don't have the tools?
>
> Pete
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:23 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire?
>
>
>>
>> Do what Keith said
>>
>> take off three allen head capsrews to un do rotor
>> take off dust cap , cotter pin and loosen wheel nut.
>> remove entire assembly -- might as well check bearings while you in
>> there. SIMPLE
>>
>> Check caliper while they off to make sure they silde freely or you can
>> get a sticking caliper in poor brake performance.
>>
>> OH and how you gonna fix the flat ? You gonna ned a bead breaker for
>> the Douglas wheels as they have bead locker type rim like a ATV wheel.
>>
>> --------
>> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
>> Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
>> http://www.cfisher.com/
>> Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
>> http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1724#201724
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an |
well if the deal falls through I sure could use them on my 5
Steve
P.S. I am by the computer :)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bigboyzt0yz
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 8:46 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an
If you still want to send them call me direct 443-690 3890 (will not be near
a computer) I will give you my shipping number and they can go out tomorrow.
--------
Lee Fritz in owings Mills Md. 2002 KitFox-IV Classic/912UL/Warp drive
prop/100% Complete (just adding the Extras now) /71 hours time on plane
since Aug 07 "Have your feet on the Pedals and keep reaching for the
sky".
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2079#202079
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| Subject: | Re: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 |
Obrigado!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Marco Menezes
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200
Que beleza de avion Francisco!
Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-Box
do not archive
--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Francisco Drovetta <dcubj3@terra.com.br>
wrote:
From: Francisco Drovetta <dcubj3@terra.com.br>
Subject: Kitfox-List: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont
O-200
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 8:24 PM
Hi
I=B4d like to share some photos with you. My next aircraft.
More 15 days to finish and fly!
I read all emails of this list daily.
Francisco Drovetta
Building Kitfox IV "brazilian version" with Cont O-200
S=E3o Paulo, SP, Brazil
dcubj3@terra.com.br
www.dcubj3.com.br (sorry only in portuguese)
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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
1/9/2008 18:03
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| Subject: | Re: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 |
Tks
Not first
In USA have a lot of them
FD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 10:25 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200
>
>
>> Hi
>> Id like to share some photos with you. My next aircraft.
>> More 15 days to finish and fly!
>>
>> I read all emails of this list daily.
>>
>>
>> Francisco Drovetta
>> Building Kitfox IV "brazilian version" with Cont O-200
>> So Paulo, SP, Brazil
>
>
> Francisco, I see you have made some modifications to the IV to build the
> "Brazilian version" kitfox. It looks very nice! I will be watching for
> your reports when it flys. I think the 0-200 may be a first in a IV.
>
> --------
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2071#202071
>
>
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18:03
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| Subject: | Re: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 |
Hi, guys.
Hi, Francisco.
Maybe we have to make everybody know that it's not an american Kitfox.
That's an "Aguia" (Hawk in Portuguese).
It's a Kitfox inspired brazilian-made plane, usually powered by VW engines.
And Francisco did a very good job. It's the most beautiful Aguia I've ever
seen.
Congratulations.
I hope it'll be ready soon, and I'm sure will be a very good flyer.
Espuny
-----Mensagem original-----
De: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] Em nome de Tom Jones
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 1 de setembro de 2008 22:26
Para: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Assunto: Kitfox-List: Re: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200
Francisco, I see you have made some modifications to the IV to build the
"Brazilian version" kitfox. It looks very nice! I will be watching for
your reports when it flys. I think the 0-200 may be a first in a IV.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2071#202071
Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido Terra.
Atualizado em 01/09/2008
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| Subject: | Re: Free to good home: 16" x 6.50" x 8" Tires an |
Sorry all these were gone in less than 10 minutes after they were posted. Dee
in Idaho was the fastest with the fingers.
--------
Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (Phase 1 - Flight Testing)
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah
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| Subject: | Re: Sat 8/30/08 Marion Ind.,Fly In |
Steve,
Will you be there Sunday?
----- Original Message -----
From: "steve shinabery" <shinco@bright.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:53 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Sat 8/30/08 Marion Ind.,Fly In
>
> I just got back from Marion Ind.,Fly In-+car show..I got to meet.Mark
> Web+Bob from Cincinnati Ohio that flew up to meet me, in there 2 nice
> looking Kitfoxs ...And got to meet all so Dwight Purdy of his home town
> Marion Ind.with his Kitfox.In all there were 4 kitfoxs there.. And next
> weekend big Fly In..that I will be..www.merf.com fly in .at Grims
> Field {I74} Urbana Ohio Sept.6-7,I am planning to camp Fri.night...Look
> for me.wearing the Great Lakes Kitfox Fly In 2008,tee shirts,and kitfox
> hat..I will bring some more tee shirts to give away. Steve Shinabery
> N554KF KF2 see you there at Urbana Ohio
>
>
>
>
>
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you can have your files and photos posted on the Matronics web server
for long time viewing and availability.
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*** Digest Mode ***
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Each day, starting at 12 midnight PST US, a new 'digest' will be started.
This digest will contain the same information that is currently appended
to the archive file. It has all of the headers except for the "From:"
and "Subject:" lines removed, and includes a message separator consisting
of a line of underscores.
Each day at 23:55 PST US, the day's messages as described above will be
combined and sent as a single message to everyone on the digest email list.
To subscribe to the digest list, use the same subscription web form
described above, and just select the Digest version of the List.
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Note that you *can* be subscribed to both the realtime and digest versions
of the List at the same time. This is perfectly acceptable.
Now some caveats:
* Messages sent to "kitfox-list-digest" will be forwarded to the standard
email list. In other words, you cannot post messages only to the
digest List.
* If you are subscribed to both the regular List and the digest List, you
will receive the realtime postings as well as the digest at the end of
the day.
* If you reply to the digest email, your message will be forwarded to the
normal list associated with the digest. Important Note: Please change
the subject line to reflect the topic of your response! Also, please
*do not include all or most of the digest in your reply*.
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*** List Digest Browser ***
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An archive of all the List Digests can be found online in either plain text
or HTML format. These archives contain the exact Digest that was posted to
the Digest email list on the given day. The Digest Archives can be found
at the following location:
http://www.matronics.com/digest
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*** The "DO NOT ARCHIVE" Message Flag ***
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At times, your message may concern something that is revelent only to a very
small number of persons or to a limited area, and you may not wish to archive
it. In such a case, simply put the following phrase anywhere in the
message:
do not archive
Your message will not be appended to the archive, but will be sent to List
email distribution as normal.
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***** READ THIS - Automatic Unsubscribes *****
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Note that if your email address begins to cause problems such as bounced
email, mailbox is filled, or any other errors, your address will be promptly
removed from the List. If you discover that you are no longer receiving
messages from the Kitfox-List, go to the following Web page, and look
for your email address and a possible reason for your removal.
The Matronics Email List uses utility called the "Email Weasel" that
automatically looks though the day's bounced email for addresses that
caused problems due to common things like "user is unknown", "mailbox
full", etc. If the Email Weasel removes your email address from the
Lists you will find record of it at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/unsubscribed
If the problem listed on the web site above has been resolved, please feel
free to resubscribe to the Lists of your choice.
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*** List Member Information ***
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If you have not done so already, please email me your phone numbers and
paper mail address in the following format:
smith@somehost.com
Joe Smith
123 Airport Lane
Tower, CA 91234-1234
098-765-1234 w
123-456-7890 h
Please forward this information to the following email address:
requests@matronics.com
I have a file of such things, that I typically use to contact you when
there are problems with your email address. The information will NOT
be used for any other commercial purpose.
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*** Realtime Web Email List Browsing ***
****************************************
Recent messages posted to the Kitfox-List are also made available on
the Web for realtime browsing. Seven days worth of back postings are
available with this feature. The messages can be sorted by Subject,
Author, Date, or Message Thread. The Realtime List Browser indexes are
updated twice per hour at xx:15 and xx:45. You can also reply to a message
or start a new message directly from the List Browser Interface (coming soon).
You do not have to be subscribed to the given list to use the List
Browser Interface in view-mode.
http://www.matronics.com/browselist/kitfox-list
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*** Web Forums Bulletin Board Interface ***
*******************************************
A phpBB BBS web Forums front end is available for all Kitfox-List content.
content. The Forums contain all of the same content available via the email
distribution and found on the various archive viewing formats such as the
List Browse, etc. Any posts on the web Forums will be cross posted to the
respective email List, and posts to the Email List will be cross posted to
the web Forums.
You may view all List content on the Forums without any special login.
If you wish to post a message via the Web Forum interface, however, you
will need to Register. This is a simple process that takes only a few
minutes. A link to the Registration page can be found at the top of the
main web Forums page. Note that registering on the Forum web site also
enables you to send email posts to the Lists as well. You will also need to
Subscribe to the respective Email List as described above to receive the
Email Distribution of the List, however.
The Matroincs Email List Web BBS Forums can be found at the following URL:
http://forums.matronics.com
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*** Matronics Email List Wiki ***
*********************************
In an attempt to make it easy to store and find structured and often accessed
information, Matronics has installed a Wiki at:
http://wiki.matronics.com
The Wiki allows individuals to create web pages to contain useful information
for other users of the mailing lists and web site. Unlike an ordinary web page
where the content needs to be submitted to Matronics for inclusion, the Wiki
permits the users to construct their own pages and have them visible immediately.
While constructing pages for the Wiki is not difficult, some may not be
comfortable building pages. In that case, simply prepare the text and any
images and email it to:
wiki-support@matronics.com
One of the volunteers on that list will take your submission and construct
a Wiki page for you.
Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in email one one of the
Lists that would be of general interest. In that case Matronics may take that
post and convert it into a Wiki page.
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*** List Archives ***
*********************
A file containing of all of the previous postings to the Kitfox-List is
available on line. The archive file information is available via the
Web and FTP in a number of forms. Each are briefly described below:
* Kitfox-List.FAQ
- Latest version of the Kitfox-List Frequently Asked Question
page (this document).
* Kitfox-Archive.digest.complete
- Complete file with most of the email header info removed and
page breaks inserted between messages.
* Kitfox-Archive.digest.vol-??
- Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that
can more easily handled.
* Kitfox-Archive.digest.complete.zip
- Same as the Kitfox-Archive.digest.complete file above, but
in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
* Kitfox-Archive.digest.complete.Z
- Same as the Kitfox-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in
UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
Download Via FTP
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The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com
in the "/pub/Archives" directory. It is updated daily and can be found in
a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.)
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
Download Via Web
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The archives are also available via a web listing. These can be found
toward the bottom of the following web page:
http://www.matronics.com/archives
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*** Complete List Web Archive Browsing ***
******************************************
All messages posted to the Kitfox-List are also available using the
Email List Archive Browsing feature. With this utility, all messages
in the List are indexed, and individual sub-archives can be browsed.
http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-index.cgi?Kitfox
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**** High-Speed Archive Search Engine ***
*****************************************
You can use the custom, high-performance Matronics Email List Search Engine
to quickly locate and browse any messages that have been posted to the
List. The Engine allows the user to easily search any of the currently
available List archives.
http://www.matronics.com/search
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*** File and Photo Share ***
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With the Matronics Email List File and Photo Share you can share pictures
and other data with members of the List without having to forward a
copy of it to everyone. To share your Files and Photos, simply email
them to:
pictures@matronics.com
!! ==> Please including the following information with each submission:
1) Email Lists that they are related to.
2) Your Full Name.
3) Your Email Address.
4) One line Subject description.
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic.
6-x) One-line Description of each photo or file
Prior to public availability of the files and photos, each will be scanned
for viruses. Please also note that the process of making the files and
photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual process, and I try to
process them every few days.
Following the availability of the new Photoshare, an email message will be
sent to the Email Lists enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new
Share is available and what the direct URL to it is.
For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look at the Main
Index Page:
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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*** List Archive CDROM ***
**************************
A complete Matronics Email List Archive CD is available that contains
all of the archives since the beginning of each of the Lists. The archives
for all of the Lists are included on the CD along with a freeware search
engine written by a list member. The CD is burned the day you order it
and will contain archive received up to the last minute. They make
great gifts!
http://www.matronics.com/ArchiveCDROM
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The Matronics Lists are run *completely* through the support of it members.
You won't find any PopUpAds, flashing Banner ads, or any other form of
annoying commercialism on either the Email Messages or the List web pages
associated with the Matronics Email Lists. Every year during November
I run a low-key, low-pressure "Fund Raiser" where, throughout the month,
I ask List members to make a Contribution in any amount with which they
are comfortable.
I will often offer free gifts with certain contribution levels during the
Fund Raiser to increase the participation. The gifts are usually donated
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Your Contributions go directly to supporting the operation of the Lists
including the high-speed, business-class Internet connection, server
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subscribed, feel free to make a Contribution when you've settled in.
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If you enjoy and value the List, won't you make a Contribution today to
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Kitfox-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Kitfox-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Kitfox-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Kitfox-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Kitfox-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
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- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
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- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
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other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
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a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
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| Subject: | Official Kitfox-List Usage Guidelines |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Kitfox-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Kitfox-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Kitfox-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Kitfox-List Usage Guidelines
******************************************************************************
The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Kitfox-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Kitfox-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Kitfox-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Kitfox-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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