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1. 01:46 AM - Re: Sat 8/30/08 Marion Ind.,Fly In (steve shinabery)
2. 03:42 AM - Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire? (dave)
3. 03:52 AM - Re: Kitfox IV 1200 decent deal here (dave)
4. 07:37 AM - Re: Trip to High Valley Resort in Suches, GA: Oct 9-12 (FlyboyTR)
5. 10:54 AM - Gas talk - Float plane trip (dave)
6. 11:33 AM - Re: Header tank location (Jay & Beverly)
7. 01:59 PM - Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney (phil@lakercustom.com)
8. 02:25 PM - Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (Noel Loveys)
9. 03:11 PM - Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (dave)
10. 03:13 PM - Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney (dave)
11. 05:26 PM - Re: Trip to High Valley Resort in Suches, GA: Oct 9-12 (wingnut)
12. 07:00 PM - Fuel line routing (Daniel Wild)
13. 08:36 PM - Re: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 (The Eathertons)
14. 08:56 PM - Anyone near Fort Capbell, TN? (WurlyBird)
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| Subject: | Re: Sat 8/30/08 Marion Ind.,Fly In |
jeff puls wrote:
>
> Steve,
> Will you be there Sunday?
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve shinabery" <shinco@bright.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:53 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Sat 8/30/08 Marion Ind.,Fly In
>
>
>>
>> I just got back from Marion Ind.,Fly In-+car show..I got to
>> meet.Mark Web+Bob from Cincinnati Ohio that flew up to meet me, in
>> there 2 nice looking Kitfoxs ...And got to meet all so Dwight Purdy
>> of his home town Marion Ind.with his Kitfox.In all there were 4
>> kitfoxs there.. And next weekend big Fly In..that I will
>> be..www.merf.com fly in .at Grims Field {I74} Urbana Ohio
>> Sept.6-7,I am planning to camp Fri.night...Look for me.wearing the
>> Great Lakes Kitfox Fly In 2008,tee shirts,and kitfox hat..I will
>> bring some more tee shirts to give away. Steve Shinabery N554KF KF2
>> see you there at Urbana Ohio
>>
>>
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> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
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Jeff I was at Marion Sat 8/30/08,,I will be at Urbana Ohio ,to the MER
Fly In ..Fi Friday 9/5/09 and 9/6/08..going to camp out there Fri
night..I wii be there app 6:00-7:00pm to set up camp..should be a good
time..I will look for you there..There will be more kitfox's there all
so..I am flying down in a buddies C172....I will look for you
there..Steve Shinabery N554KF KF2 home of the Great Lakes Area
Kitfox Fly In-Drive In
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| Subject: | Re: Removing a wheel to fix a tire? |
> On my VW dunebuggy I used to put a 2X6 about 3' long on the tire as a ramp
> and drive my car up to break the bead. Would this work?
>
> Pete
> ---
Pete, I really doubt that would work. You have to get between the lip of the rim
and the bead of the tire and you have to go in about 1/2 inch or so. Your
way the tire will likely fold over and the bead will not slide over the bead lock
ridge on the rim. A simple tool like I made works well. If you are unsure
just take to a ATV shop or make your own.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox IV 1200 decent deal here |
Better act fast ..
912 Kitfox for 22k !!
Kitfox IV average prices 22 to 28k
GREAT deal fora GREAT airplane.
Kitfox IV no longer made............ these are great planes.
an the guy gonna sell this to buy a CGS hawk-- What the heck ?
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to High Valley Resort in Suches, GA: Oct 9-12 |
Just bumping the thread! [Embarassed]
Sure would like to see some other Fox's there!
Travis :)
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Travis Rayner
Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
ADI-II Autopilot
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| Subject: | Gas talk - Float plane trip |
Just got home form a 7 hour flight time float trip yesterday. I used Regular auto
gas or what ever i bought .- one Gas station , 3 marinas with pump prices
up to 1.69 per litre. I flew over sparse territory with nothing but swamps,
bush and lakes.
The other plane was a beaver ultralight with 582. he ran about 6000 rpm at average
of 68 mph and I ran average 80 t0 85 mph . I would throttle between 5200
and 5800 most of the time. My fuel flo meter was dead on showing about 13 to
18 litre / hour fuel burn. Everytime we landed at a marina his fuel consumption
was exactly 50% more than mine. First stop my bill was 87$ and his was 133$
--------- GO FIGURE.
Show that Kitfox on Aerocets is much cleaner than a Beaver with Full lotus. Plus
he takes 50% longer to get off the water.
Back to the gas, in Canada we are mandated to have ethanol gas rammed down our
throats. BUT - I had no issues with it once again on this trip or anytime.
Heck, I never used a chamois or filter funnel this time either and if anything
was there never a hiccup. Maybe my gascolator is full ?
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
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| Subject: | Re: Header tank location |
Marco,
Do you still have the header tank? I need one.
Jay C.
----- Original Message -----
From: Marco Menezes
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Header tank location
Pat,
I have an extra header tank, just like the one Lynn describes. I
bought it from Skystar about 5 years ago when my original tank developed
a slow leak around one of the brass fittings. Before it arrived, I
managed to cure the problem and it's been fine ever since. If you need
it, it's yours for the cost of shipping.
BYT: The "sump" drain in my Mod 2 is tee'd into the bottom hole
of the header. The other side of the T goes to the engine. Drain line is
3/8" poly with in-line hardware store brass ball valve, leading to a
fitting on the right side belly under back of passenger seat. The belly
drain fitting is attached through the fabric to a flush aluminum bracket
for reinforcement. Drain fitting is barbed on inside and has NPT threads
on outside so that I can attach a removeable, external drain line. Makes
it easy to quickly drain fuel into jerry cans after each flight. I also
have a superfluous gascolator which I have left in as the last line of
defense before fuel gets to engine.
Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-Box
--- On Sat, 8/30/08, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Header tank location
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 2:39 PM
Deke was kind enough to send it my way in exchange for some future
consideration....next-born son or something like that. : )
It's a Kitfox tank, made of some kind of cast plastic, with brass
bungs cast right in for all the fittings. My old tank was rectangular
all the way, but this new one is designed to be located right behind
the seat, and to that end has a slope on the upper forward surface to
clear the slope of the seat back.
On second thought, maybe I'm imagining those brass bungs being cast
in....better score me as not being sure of that feature. I know the
one on the side of the tank, like where you'd put an optical low-fuel
sender is a just plain threaded hole...plenty of beef, though.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
On Aug 29, 2008, at 11:39 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> Lynn, Is your's an aluminum or plastic tank? Where did you get it?
> Did you install the sump drain in the tank, or was it in the tank
> when you bought it?
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford, IL
>
> > From: lynnmatt@jps.net
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Header tank location
> > Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:04:29 -0400
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >
<lynnmatt@jps.net>
> >
> > The drain is right in the very bottom of the header tank, and is a
> > "sensible drain" in my opinion...that is, the floor of the
tank dips
> > down to the drain, unlike the wing tank drain locations, which look
> > like they dip down but they don't. Also, the fuel outlet is about
1"
> > at least above this location, so you have a large capacity for gunk
> > to locate before it EVER would get high enough to go out the fuel
> > outlet hole.
> > I set my tank up so that the quick drain is right at the fabric
> > surface, then reinforced the fabric around the hole, and used a
> > plastic ring around that hole that has a flange on it for gluing to
> > the fabric.
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster
> > Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> > Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
> > Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 28, 2008, at 11:00 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> >
> > > Lynn, Where is the drain located and access point. If I move my
> > > tank to the lower position or get a new one, a sump drain sounds
> > > like a great idea.
> > > Do not archive
> > >
> > > Pat
> > >
> > > > From: lynnmatt@jps.net
> > > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Header tank location
> > > > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:05:27 -0400
> > > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com; patreilly43@hotmail.com
> > > >
> <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> > > >
> > > > Yes, Pat, I have a "quickdrain" I think it's
called, and I
> use it to
> > > > sump the header to check for water....VERY seldom ever
> finding any.
> > > > It was suggested here that the drains in the wing tanks are
just
> > > > another source of leaks, and that the drain in the
low-mounted
> > > header
> > > > tank serves the same purpose. In fact, it serves a better
> > > > purpose...it gets any moisture that might get into the
system
> > > between
> > > > the wing tanks and the header tank.
> > > >
> > > > Lynn Matteson
> > > > Kitfox IV Speedster
> > > > Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> > > > Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to
try." (Pink
> > > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:12 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Lynn, Thanks for the info. Do you have a drain on the
> bottom of
> > > the
> > > > > header? I was told that with the header lower, the
chance of
> > > > > loosing pressure with low wing tank volume, you stand
less
> of a
> > > > > chance of gas flow quiting. My plane has a gascolator
on the
> > > > > firewall. I guess I will use it with the 582.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pat Do not archive
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: lynnmatt@jps.net
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Header tank location
> > > > > > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:24:43 -0400
> > > > > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > > > > >
Matteson
> > > <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pat-
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For me it serves as a
"gascolator".....the final (I hope)
> > > resting
> > > > > > place for any water that might have found its way
into the
> > > > > system. (I
> > > > > > have a filter in each line coming into this tank,
and one
> > > after, to
> > > > > > catch any dirt.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lynn Matteson
> > > > > > Kitfox IV Speedster
> > > > > > Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs and holding for repairs
> > > > > > Status: "Condition grounded, but determined
to try." (Pink
> > > > > > Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Aug 27, 2008, at 11:44 PM, Pat Reilly wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kitfoxers, My mod 3 has the header tank
located high
> behind
> > > the
> > > > > > > seats. The current models have the header
tank located low
> > > behind
> > > > > > > the co-pilots seat. Is there an advantage to
the new lower
> > > > > location?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pat Reilly
> > > > > > > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> > > > > > > Rockf
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| Subject: | Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney |
Just got back to Phoenix from the Kitfox reunion fly in. Lotsa
Kitfoxes, old friends and good food. One of the high lights
was the arrival of Dan Denney in his Special Effects Kitfox.
Was really great to talk to him again and see him fly the
Super Sport with John. First owner and the current owner.
Kitfoxers flew in from California, Colorado, Arizona, Oregon
and Idaho.
See you next year!
Phil "Papa" Laker
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| Subject: | Gas talk - Float plane trip |
Prime minister "Harpo" (If it wasn't so serious it would be hilarious)
passed legislation that gives a year or so before ethanol contamination has
to be everywhere. I still want to know who he is going to get to transport
it to the island or the arctic. If the stuff was so good they wouldn't have
to legislate it's use... I wonder if he is also shovelling it's use into
the military.
Oh well there's an election in the works... Maybe we should all go with
Premier Danny Williams ABC voting practice...That's Anything But
Conservative.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 3:24 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Gas talk - Float plane trip
Just got home form a 7 hour flight time float trip yesterday. I used
Regular auto gas or what ever i bought .- one Gas station , 3 marinas with
pump prices up to 1.69 per litre. I flew over sparse territory with
nothing but swamps, bush and lakes.
The other plane was a beaver ultralight with 582. he ran about 6000 rpm at
average of 68 mph and I ran average 80 t0 85 mph . I would throttle between
5200 and 5800 most of the time. My fuel flo meter was dead on showing about
13 to 18 litre / hour fuel burn. Everytime we landed at a marina his fuel
consumption was exactly 50% more than mine. First stop my bill was 87$ and
his was 133$ --------- GO FIGURE.
Show that Kitfox on Aerocets is much cleaner than a Beaver with Full lotus.
Plus he takes 50% longer to get off the water.
Back to the gas, in Canada we are mandated to have ethanol gas rammed down
our throats. BUT - I had no issues with it once again on this trip or
anytime. Heck, I never used a chamois or filter funnel this time either
and if anything was there never a hiccup. Maybe my gascolator is full ?
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer
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| Subject: | Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip |
Noel,
the point is that I fly a fair bit with gas yes GAS- Regular ethanol laced auto
gas. --And guess what -- it still runs .
I just look at the ethanol fear mongering as just from folks that are not sure.
? Heck, i not want it but I forced to use it and so far it works fine. Maybe
I will be eating my own foot soon but after 3000 Gallons of ethanol gas in my
Kitfox alone and no fuel issues and one engine that ran 500 hours and still ran
fine I cannot say that ethanol is a detriment to my flying.
Time to get your 912 running and put some hours on yours. I would use the same
as I have been.
> Prime minister "Harpo" (If it wasn't so serious it would be hilarious)
> passed legislation that gives a year or so before ethanol contamination has
> to be everywhere. I still want to know who he is going to get to transport
> it to the island or the arctic. If the stuff was so good they wouldn't have
> to legislate it's use... I wonder if he is also shovelling it's use into
> the military.
>
> Oh well there's an election in the works... Maybe we should all go with
> Premier Danny Williams ABC voting practice...That's Anything But
> Conservative.
>
> Noel
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney |
Phil ,
Maybe Dan was there to get in line to buy the existing Kitfox lite line that is
for sale that no one wants to talk about
Dave
> Just got back to Phoenix from the Kitfox reunion fly in. Lotsa
> Kitfoxes, old friends and good food. One of the high lights
> was the arrival of Dan Denney in his Special Effects Kitfox.
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to High Valley Resort in Suches, GA: Oct 9-12 |
Hey Travis. The sudden appearance of a couple of insanely low priced Kitfoxes on
Barnstormers right after mine means that I'll probably be hanging on to mine
for a while longer. If the weather holds then you can count me in. This is one
place I've been wanting to visit since I bought my Kitfox.
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Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)
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| Subject: | Fuel line routing |
I have a Model 1 (532) with two 6 gal wing tanks and 1 one gallon
aluminum header tank mounted on the firewall. The fuel lines run out of
the wing tanks thru an on/off valve across to the other side behind the
seats down under the door and up to the top of the header tank on the
firewall. At times I notice air in the line as it comes out of the fuel
tanks. It also doesn't use fuel out of both tanks evenly even when both
valves are on. I just read an old service bulletin on this subject and
appears to me to be a problem. Also the header tank has a vent tub that
runs thru the firewall should this be open at all times or closed?? Any
help here would be appreciated
Thanks Dan Wild
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| Subject: | My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 |
Francisco,
I had a good friend from my High School days who was an exchange student
from Sao Paulo. I know there is a few people there but how about a
phone
number for Vinicious =93Vini=94 Bertolini? It=92s only been 19 years
since we
last talked or wrote. I think about him now and again=85
Beautiful plane..
Jason Eatherton
582 Kitfox III In Progress
Rapid City, South Dakota
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
Drovetta
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 6:25 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: My next aircraft - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200
Hi
I=B4d like to share some photos with you. My next aircraft.
More 15 days to finish and fly!
I read all emails of this list daily.
Francisco Drovetta
Building Kitfox IV "brazilian version" with Cont O-200
S=E3o Paulo, SP, Brazil
dcubj3@terra.com.br
www.dcubj3.com.br (sorry only in portuguese)
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| Subject: | Anyone near Fort Capbell, TN? |
So here is the long and short of it. My wife and I are planning on buying a little
plane when we get home from Afghanistan and we have pretty well decided on
a Kitfox. Her airplane experience consists of a ride I gave her in a glider
and a ride my buddy gave her on a Dragonfly "Ultralight". So I would really
like for her to get to fly in a couple different light planes before we make this
commitment. Not to mention I would love to try out a KF to make sure it is
what I hope it is.
We will be home on leave in a little over a month and I would love to find someone
who would like to show off their plane for us. Everyone seems to be fanatical
about their Kitfoxes, one of the things that drew me to them in the first
place and I am sure we will both fall in love with one. If a nice lunch to sit
down and talk over helps the decision at all, that is by all means offered.
Thanks to anyone who would like to help us out with this.
James
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