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1. 03:31 AM - Re: Fuel line routing (dave)
2. 05:30 AM - Re: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (Noel Loveys)
3. 05:46 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney (phil@lakercustom.com)
4. 05:48 AM - Floats with the new exhaust pipe. (Noel Loveys)
5. 09:01 AM - Re: Trip to High Valley Resort in Suches, GA: Oct 9-12 (FlyboyTR)
6. 09:18 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney (phil@lakercustom.com)
7. 12:57 PM - Re: Floats with the new exhaust pipe. (dave)
8. 08:41 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney (The Eathertons)
9. 08:52 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney (steve eccles)
10. 09:07 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney (Les Chambers)
11. 09:19 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney (Dwight Purdy)
12. 09:38 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney (william Mills)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel line routing |
> I have a wing tank plumbed into a clear panel tank. I have tried every fuel line
route possible from the wing to the panel and have come to the conclusion
that there is no good way to route it above the door and down to the panel tank.
I end up in almost knife flight to drain the last two gallons out of the wing.
>
> I think I will go back to the down under the seat and back up route.
Tom, I agree. I have a shut off on each wing tank then they meet at a "T". Right
after that is a facet fuel pump. I have a switch to turn that on and it quickly
pumps the wing tank into the dash tank. ABout 2 litres or 5 US gal. The
pump is to quicken the flow rate only , the pitot pressure will transfer the
fuel from the wingtank to the dash tank at a rate higher that the burn rate.
Works well for me and with independat tank controls , I can dump one tank at a
time. My fuel flow meter ( NAVMAN 2100 is very accurate) and just another accessory
that helps fuel management.
One thing I do not do is transfer fuel during take off in the event that air some
how got forced into the fuel line to the gascolator.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip |
Only thing that makes my stomach turn is the fact that my plane is still
waiting for parts and I'm not up there with you. That's ok though...my turn
is coming :-)
I never had any problem that required a forced approach with the 582 but the
eth does concern me a bit. Looks like you had a perfect day and a forced
approach wouldn't have been a problem from your altitude.
Glad to see you have your boots on again!
Back to looking at the rest of the videos now.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:29 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip
Noel,
This should make your stomach turn then. The pic below was taken of me a
few days ago after flying about 45 miles across open water with a Rotax 582
and ethanol gas. Go figure.
Dave
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney |
>
> What is a " Special Effects Kitfox " ??? Can someone post a picture ?
>
> Mike
>
>
Sorry, I seem to think everyone has been around Kitfox since 1984.
Dan built a Model 4 Biplane 10 or 12 years ago. It was painted a
neon yellow with metallic blue scallops. It was named "Special
Effects". The biplane wings are now gone and it has a custom
high wing. I'll get pictures on in a couple of days.
Papa
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| Subject: | Floats with the new exhaust pipe. |
Dave:
Do you have any video to compare take off with and without your new pipe on
the 582?
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:29 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip
Noel,
This should make your stomach turn then. The pic below was taken of me a
few days ago after flying about 45 miles across open water with a Rotax 582
and ethanol gas. Go figure.
Dave
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
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Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to High Valley Resort in Suches, GA: Oct 9-12 |
wingnut wrote:
> Hey Travis. If the weather holds then you can count me in. This is one place
I've been wanting to visit since I bought my Kitfox.
Louis,
Glad to hear you may be joining us. High Valley is always a great trip. I enjoy
flying around the Valley...small as it is! The mountains should be getting
colorful while we're there. As always...sure would like to see a few more Kitfox's
slide into the pattern with us!
Travis :D
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Travis Rayner
Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
ADI-II Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney |
Here is a shot of Dan and John with the SS and the Special Effects
in the background.
Papa
>
>
>>
>> What is a " Special Effects Kitfox " ??? Can someone post a picture ?
>>
>> Mike
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Floats with the new exhaust pipe. |
> Dave:
>
> Do you have any video to compare take off with and without your new pipe on
> the 582?
>
> Noel
Nope, only documentation I can tell you is that oN a GSC prop I run + 2 degrees
more pitch that with Stock skystar exhaust. Also the fuel burn seems a bit
less ( about 1/2 gallon /hour) less and with more power.
The pipe is very tight inside the cowl but it works well. power band starts about
4800 to 5200 rpm. I am keeping it conservative to ensure the engine has a
long life. A 582 you can get about 80 hp out of but life will be shortened and
fuel burn would go up. Rotax exhaust makes the 582 run a bit rich with the
Mods that Skystar did to the exhaust and hence it had likely about 56 to 58
HP i figure. I would figure that I am around 65 to 68 hp here.
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
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http://www.cfisher.com/
Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney |
I saw the bi-plane version one night late on some unknown website and have
never found it again. I would be interested in a picture of that if anyone
knows where or how to get there.
Jason Eatherton
Kitfox III 582 In Progress
Rapid City, South Dakota
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
phil@lakercustom.com
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney
Here is a shot of Dan and John with the SS and the Special Effects in the
background.
Papa
>
>
>>
>> What is a " Special Effects Kitfox " ??? Can someone post a picture ?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney |
here ya go
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of The Eathertons
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:40 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney
I saw the bi-plane version one night late on some unknown website and have
never found it again. I would be interested in a picture of that if anyone
knows where or how to get there.
Jason Eatherton
Kitfox III 582 In Progress
Rapid City, South Dakota
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
phil@lakercustom.com
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney
Here is a shot of Dan and John with the SS and the Special Effects in the
background.
Papa
>
>
>>
>> What is a " Special Effects Kitfox " ??? Can someone post a picture ?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney |
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney |
How did he get in? A catwalk on the lower wing?
Dwight purdy
model ll
----- Original Message -----
From: Les Chambers
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney
Here's another view. At the factory fly-in of 2000 or 2001, Dan flew
it over to Caldwell (from Napa) for the Sat evening banquet.
steve eccles wrote:
here ya go
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of The
Eathertons
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:40 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney
<eatherton@rushmore.com>
I saw the bi-plane version one night late on some unknown website and
have
never found it again. I would be interested in a picture of that if
anyone
knows where or how to get there.
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney |
Jason -
I've seen a few photos but only saved this one. Sorry - I don't have a
larger file.
Bill Mills - lurking since '98
Chinook/912ul in progress
SF bay area
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM, The Eathertons <eatherton@rushmore.com>wrote:
> eatherton@rushmore.com>
>
> I saw the bi-plane version one night late on some unknown website and have
> never found it again. I would be interested in a picture of that if anyone
> knows where or how to get there.
>
> Jason Eatherton
> Kitfox III 582 In Progress
> Rapid City, South Dakota
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> phil@lakercustom.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:18 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney
>
>
> Here is a shot of Dan and John with the SS and the Special Effects in the
> background.
>
> Papa
>
>
> >
> >
> >>
> >> What is a " Special Effects Kitfox " ??? Can someone post a picture ?
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
>
>
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