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1. 05:43 AM - Re: anchor nuts (Tom Jones)
2. 05:43 AM - Re: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (Dacha)
3. 05:51 AM - Re: Floats with the new exhaust pipe. (akflyer)
4. 06:16 AM - Denney plane turtledeck window (Dave)
5. 08:09 AM - Re: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (Lowell Fitt)
6. 08:37 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan DenneyRe: Kitfox Fly in and Dan DenneyRe: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney (George Wells)
7. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan DenneyRe: Kitfox Fly in and Dan DenneyRe: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney (George Wells)
8. 12:53 PM - Horizontal Stabilizer Setting (Ken Potter)
9. 01:25 PM - Re: Horizontal Stabilizer Setting (Dee Young)
10. 04:41 PM - Re: Horizontal Stabilizer Setting (Glenn Horne)
11. 04:57 PM - Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) (jlfernan)
12. 05:16 PM - Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) (paul wilson)
13. 05:44 PM - Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) (Lynn Matteson)
14. 06:02 PM - Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) (jlfernan)
15. 07:24 PM - Re: Horizontal Stabilizer Setting (Tom Jones)
16. 07:56 PM - Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) (Tom Jones)
17. 08:48 PM - Re: Horizontal Stabilizer Setting (Rexinator)
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> a #3 flathead machine screw is about a perfect match for a 3/32 rivit. 100 screws
and nuts was about $2 plus shipping from mcmaster-carr. you can see where
this is going, anyone tried this? any input would be appreciated.
> bob noffs
Bob, just make sure the places you use screws in place of rivets are fairly accessible
to get the washers and nuts on. I used rivnuts (to accept screws) in
a lot of places instead of rivets alone and some are a bear to get the nuts and
washers on and off. Often it is easier and much faster to drill out rivets
than to take screws out.
When drilling out the rivets to be replaced use a letter drill that is a hair smaller
than the drill used to make the hole for the rivet to reduce the enlargement
of the hole. If it is non structural it won't hurt anything anyhow. The
new rivet will expand to tighten in a slightly oversize hole.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip |
Mike,
I am having a problem with the fuel leak also. Went out to the hanger and
there was fuel below and behind the wing.
How much trouble is it to replace the tank?
LeRoy
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| Subject: | Re: Floats with the new exhaust pipe. |
I was looking at buying a lil buzzard before I found my Avid. I sent countless
emails and left more messages on their answering machine than I did on Airdales,
did not get one single return call. I was ready to go buy 3 of them for me
and two buddies.. Looks like a nice bird at a great price, but after 7 months
of no contact, I forgot about them.
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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| Subject: | Denney plane turtledeck window |
If you look at the pictures of the Denney plane in other posts, you can
see that it has a one piece window in an aluminum frame. My 'Fox has a
one piece rather thick plexi held on with mostly velcro althoutgh there
are four through fasteners. I've posted picTures before.
I would like any details anyone can post about making a lighter, thinner
one piece window similar to that seen in the Denney aircraft.
I am aware of the one piece plastic turtledeck and I am not interested
in that option. Although I might be interested in a complete folding one
if someone else wishes to upgrade to a plastic one.
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| Subject: | Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip |
LeRoy,
Years ago, I found a few small leaks near the filler cap on the top ot the
tank. With the help of friends, I took the wing off and resloshed the
tanks, first by doing a couple of sloshes with a couple of gallons of
acetone, then Kreem. I have a lot of confidence in Kreem, though this is
sometimes seen as a low grade dimentia by some. I did some test-tube
testing with Kreem in all sorts of stuff including denatured alcohol, with
no changes in sseveral months. This is tons easier than stripping fabric
and removing and replacing the tank. If it doesn't work, you would be out
maybe $60 and some fun times with friends. Do a search of the archives on
resloshing as a few have done this before. I covered the top and bottom of
the tank end of the wing with vinyl sheet and masking tape to protect the
finish.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dacha" <tstaley@centurytel.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip
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> Mike,
> I am having a problem with the fuel leak also. Went out to the hanger and
> there was fuel below and behind the wing.
> How much trouble is it to replace the tank?
> LeRoy
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan DenneyRe: Kitfox Fly in and |
Dan DenneyRe: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney
Me too -- I never get any pictures listed on the messages ??
George
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan DenneyRe: Kitfox Fly in and |
Dan DenneyRe: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney
My downloaded messages never show any pictures ?? How Come ??
George
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| Subject: | Horizontal Stabilizer Setting |
Hi Folks;
I am about to install the horizontal stabilizer on my KF II. Can anybody advise
which hole to use to set the initial incidence??
Thanks in advance
Ken
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| Subject: | Re: Horizontal Stabilizer Setting |
I used the center hole. It seemed to work ok.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Potter<mailto:kjpotter@sympatico.ca>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 1:52 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Horizontal Stabilizer Setting
<kjpotter@sympatico.ca<mailto:kjpotter@sympatico.ca>>
Hi Folks;
I am about to install the horizontal stabilizer on my KF II. Can
anybody advise which hole to use to set the initial incidence??
Thanks in advance
Ken
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| Subject: | Re: Horizontal Stabilizer Setting |
TOP!
GLENN HORNE
Kitfox Model II
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From: "Ken Potter" <kjpotter@sympatico.ca>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 3:52 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Horizontal Stabilizer Setting
>
> Hi Folks;
>
> I am about to install the horizontal stabilizer on my KF II. Can anybody
> advise which hole to use to set the initial incidence??
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Ken
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2925#202925
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| Subject: | Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) |
The subject says it all. Putting together the control column and pivots. I did
not do it by the book cause I could not see how coming in from the top would help
me to turn the pivot into the mount. What a pain! Below is a picture of how
I did it. It's a bit irrelevant though because I seem to have trouble reaming
the .250" holes. The bit wobbled through the one on the end of the column and
also through the right stick pivot. Sticking bolts through the holes, they go
in very loose. So I guess I'll be ordering new parts from Kitfox. Anyone out
there have photos of how they did theirs? And John, if you're reading this,
just looking for pictures that's all.
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Jorge Fernandez
Supersport
Just starting!
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| Subject: | Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) |
Tip:
Pull the reamer. Meaning use the shaft to provide the alignment to
prevent an ovulated hole. I use an old drill chuck so I can get a
fist full for hand reaming. I never use a drill for reaming. To easy
to screw up the hole.
Your pic failed.
Paul
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At 05:57 PM 9/6/2008, you wrote:
>
>The subject says it all. Putting together the control column and
>pivots. I did not do it by the book cause I could not see how coming
>in from the top would help me to turn the pivot into the mount. What
>a pain! Below is a picture of how I did it. It's a bit irrelevant
>though because I seem to have trouble reaming the .250" holes. The
>bit wobbled through the one on the end of the column and also
>through the right stick pivot. Sticking bolts through the holes,
>they go in very loose. So I guess I'll be ordering new parts from
>Kitfox. Anyone out there have photos of how they did theirs? And
>John, if you're reading this, just looking for pictures that's all.
> (http://imageshack.us), (http://imageshack.us)
>
>--------
>Jorge Fernandez
>Supersport
>Just starting!
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2970#202970
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) |
I second Paul's suggestion to PULL the reamer through the hole. Need
a 1/4" hole? Drill with a 15/64" drill bit, then use a .249" reamer,
then check the fit of the bolt. If it doesn't fit use the .250"
reamer....but PULL the reamer through the hole, never push it.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs...short block assembled, as well as two heads.
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
On Sep 6, 2008, at 8:15 PM, paul wilson wrote:
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> Tip:
> Pull the reamer. Meaning use the shaft to provide the alignment to
> prevent an ovulated hole. I use an old drill chuck so I can get a
> fist full for hand reaming. I never use a drill for reaming. To
> easy to screw up the hole.
> Your pic failed.
> Paul
> ========
> At 05:57 PM 9/6/2008, you wrote:
>> <jlfernan@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> The subject says it all. Putting together the control column and
>> pivots. I did not do it by the book cause I could not see how
>> coming in from the top would help me to turn the pivot into the
>> mount. What a pain! Below is a picture of how I did it. It's a bit
>> irrelevant though because I seem to have trouble reaming the .250"
>> holes. The bit wobbled through the one on the end of the column
>> and also through the right stick pivot. Sticking bolts through the
>> holes, they go in very loose. So I guess I'll be ordering new
>> parts from Kitfox. Anyone out there have photos of how they did
>> theirs? And John, if you're reading this, just looking for
>> pictures that's all.
>> (http://imageshack.us), (http://imageshack.us)
>>
>> --------
>> Jorge Fernandez
>> Supersport
>> Just starting!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2970#202970
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) |
The problem with pulling it through is that it's on the closed end of the mount.
The tight space and the powder-coat inside the hole made it impossible for me
to pull the reamer through.
(http://imageshack.us)
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Jorge Fernandez
Supersport
Just starting!
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| Subject: | Re: Horizontal Stabilizer Setting |
ken, the most efficient rigging for the horizontal stab is where you need to hold
just a little forward pressure on the stick for level cruise. If you need
to hold back pressure with the mount in the top hole, drop it to the next hole
down. When you find the spot that requires slight forward pressure for level
flight, trim the nose down with the flaps.
A well rigged kitfox is a joy to fly.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) |
> The problem with pulling it through is that it's on the closed end of the mount.
The tight space and the powder-coat inside the hole made it impossible for
me to pull the reamer through.
Jorge, I supplemented the reamer set with the the next two sizes under each size
that came with my kitfox tool kit. Many places I had to start with a reamer
one or two sizes smaller to ream just the powder coating out of the way.
You should be able to slide the reamers in from the open end of the control column
and then through the pivot hole on the closed end. Same as you will place
the bolt there.
I ruined a few parts myself, some more than once. Hopefully your control column
can be fixed with a little welding.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Horizontal Stabilizer Setting |
I checked my model II and it's set in the top hole, but I don't know how
it flys as it's not repaired yet . I suspect Tom Jones is right and you
may find you it could be different for your airplane.
--
Rex Hefferan
SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs
Ken Potter wrote:
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>Hi Folks;
>
>I am about to install the horizontal stabilizer on my KF II. Can anybody advise
which hole to use to set the initial incidence??
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Ken
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2925#202925
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>
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