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1. 04:48 AM - Re: Horizontal Stabilizer Setting (Ken Potter)
2. 07:15 AM - Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) (Lowell Fitt)
3. 08:16 AM - Re: Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) (paul wilson)
4. 08:16 AM - Re: Re: Horizontal Stabilizer Setting (paul wilson)
5. 09:02 AM - Re: Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) (Donroutledge@aol.com)
6. 09:26 AM - Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) (jlfernan)
7. 09:34 AM - Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) (jlfernan)
8. 09:37 AM - Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) (jlfernan)
9. 10:54 AM - Re: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (Noel Loveys)
10. 10:59 AM - Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (dave)
11. 11:03 AM - Re: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (Noel Loveys)
12. 12:59 PM - Re: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (Noel Loveys)
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| Subject: | Re: Horizontal Stabilizer Setting |
Thanks everyone;
Test flying will not be till late fall or early spring so I have installed it
in the centre hole for now.
Cheers
Ken Potter
KF II, No. 483
Rotax 582 C Box
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| Subject: | Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) |
Jorge,
I am building a model IV so am not really familiar with the Supersport
parts, but I find also that after reaming the stick pivots, there is a bit
of slop. what I do, at least on the pilot side, is drill out the pivot a
bit on each side, maybe a quarter inch, then put a bushing in that is reamed
to the proper inside diameter. I make the bushings of Delron plastic that
is reputed to be self lubricating. I did it on the old airplane and it
worked for the 900 hours it survived. I just did it on the new one as well.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "jlfernan" <jlfernan@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 4:57 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself)
>
> The subject says it all. Putting together the control column and pivots. I
> did not do it by the book cause I could not see how coming in from the top
> would help me to turn the pivot into the mount. What a pain! Below is a
> picture of how I did it. It's a bit irrelevant though because I seem to
> have trouble reaming the .250" holes. The bit wobbled through the one on
> the end of the column and also through the right stick pivot. Sticking
> bolts through the holes, they go in very loose. So I guess I'll be
> ordering new parts from Kitfox. Anyone out there have photos of how they
> did theirs? And John, if you're reading this, just looking for pictures
> that's all.
> (http://imageshack.us), (http://imageshack.us)
>
> --------
> Jorge Fernandez
> Supersport
> Just starting!
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| Subject: | Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) |
For that kind of hole get a reamer with a pilot. Spend teh $$ and
avoid ruining the part. Never push a reamer.
Standard practice.
If you don't want to spring for the trick reamer use a drill bit with
a hand chuck from an old drill and slowly work up to the correct size
using hand force only. Use drills from a set of number sizes since
they offer smaller difference from size to size. I only found one or
two that had metal to be removed all the rest has just paint.
Sigh, I have a sign on my tool box left over from construction that
says "PULL THE REAMER"
Some of the holes on the KF need a long extension to avoid
interference. I have 3 of them that will extend a reamer about 3'.
This allows better alignment in some cases. Won't take the place of a
pilot reamer, but it does get those hard to reach holes.
BTW, My M-4 did not need a pilot reamer.
Paul
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At 07:02 PM 9/6/2008, you wrote:
>
>The problem with pulling it through is that it's on the closed end
>of the mount. The tight space and the powder-coat inside the hole
>made it impossible for me to pull the reamer through.
> (http://imageshack.us)
>
>--------
>Jorge Fernandez
>Supersport
>Just starting!
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2980#202980
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| Subject: | Re: Horizontal Stabilizer Setting |
Tip: Drill some extra holes in the fwd attach to allow for fine
tuning. They are tough to add after the build.
Paul
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At 08:24 PM 9/6/2008, you wrote:
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>ken, the most efficient rigging for the horizontal stab is where you
>need to hold just a little forward pressure on the stick for level
>cruise. If you need to hold back pressure with the mount in the top
>hole, drop it to the next hole down. When you find the spot that
>requires slight forward pressure for level flight, trim the nose
>down with the flaps.
>
>A well rigged kitfox is a joy to fly.
>
>--------
>Tom Jones
>Classic IV
>503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
>Ellensburg, WA
>
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| Subject: | Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) |
Not too savvy. How do you pull a reamer? I just can't picture it in my mind.
Thanks, Don
In a message dated 9/7/2008 10:17:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
pwmac@sisna.com writes:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: paul wilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
For that kind of hole get a reamer with a pilot. Spend teh $$ and
avoid ruining the part. Never push a reamer.
Standard practice.
If you don't want to spring for the trick reamer use a drill bit with
a hand chuck from an old drill and slowly work up to the correct size
using hand force only. Use drills from a set of number sizes since
they offer smaller difference from size to size. I only found one or
two that had metal to be removed all the rest has just paint.
Sigh, I have a sign on my tool box left over from construction that
says "PULL THE REAMER"
Some of the holes on the KF need a long extension to avoid
interference. I have 3 of them that will extend a reamer about 3'.
This allows better alignment in some cases. Won't take the place of a
pilot reamer, but it does get those hard to reach holes.
BTW, My M-4 did not need a pilot reamer.
Paul
============
At 07:02 PM 9/6/2008, you wrote:
>
>The problem with pulling it through is that it's on the closed end
>of the mount. The tight space and the powder-coat inside the hole
>made it impossible for me to pull the reamer through.
> (http://imageshack.us)
>
>--------
>Jorge Fernandez
>Supersport
>Just starting!
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2980#202980
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) |
Put it backwards through the hole then fit it into your hand drill.
After some some advice I received offline, I assembled the right mount with the
control column. Once the nut and bolt were tightened everything squared up and
everything was solid, no problem here. I'm still going to get a new right pivot.
(http://imageshack.us)
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Jorge Fernandez
Supersport
Just starting!
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| Subject: | Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) |
> Not too savvy. How do you pull a reamer? I just can't picture it in my mind.
Thanks, Don
Put it backwards through the hole then fit it into your hand drill.
After some some advice I received offline, I assembled the right mount with the
control column. Once the nut and bolt were tightened everything squared up and
everything was solid, no problem here. I'm still going to get a new right pivot.
(http://imageshack.us)[
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Jorge Fernandez
Supersport
Just starting!
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| Subject: | Re: Control column pivot(Not happy with myself) |
After some some advice I received offline, I assembled the right mount with the
control column. Once the nut and bolt were tightened everything squared up and
everything was solid, no problem here. I'm still going to get a new right pivot.
(http://imageshack.us)[ :D
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Jorge Fernandez
Supersport
Fuselage/Forward Controls
http://websites.expercraft.com/jlfernan/
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| Subject: | Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip |
Not that I eat a raft of corn every year but I sure eat my share of beef,
pork and chicken all of which are corn fed to some extent. Feeding these
animals the grouts from ethanol production just doesn't cut it. I have a
vet friend who told me the grouts contain steroids that will cause a cow to
increase production at the cost of her life and whatever comfort cows have.
Some where this has to end... I can only come to the conclusion that most
politicians are either three parts brain dead or just don't give a S***! I
blame the politicians because they are the ones legislating the use of
ethanol and firing money at it at an alarming rate.
MSN this past week had a write up on the new Tesla electric super car...
Yes Virginia there is an electric super car! 1-60 times less than 4 sec a
range of 225 mi. and a top end regulated to 125 mph.. Recharge times are in
the ten hour envelope. Cost of operation is around 0.03/mi.! 0 emmisions
and unfortunately 0 noise too. The thing is this car can take care of
better than 90 % of automobile use... and this is only the first kick at the
cat!
I'm not going into the discussion of whether or not to fly on ethanol. It
is enough to say that the brain dead louts who are shoving ethanol fuel down
our collective throats are the same morons who decided we must
drive/boat/fly on their fuel.
If ethanol was god's gift to the infernal combustion engine then they
wouldn't have to legislate its use... In fact they would be able to tax the
snot out of it. Be sure if the electric or fuel cell car becomes popular
they will find a way to tax it too.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JetPilot
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 4:19 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip
Ethanol use in gasoline is also causing the greatest environmental disasters
ever seen on this planet. Now that the demand for Corn, and food is way up
because we are burning it our cars, deforestation of the land is happening
at an exponential pace. Places like Malaysia and Brasil are now growing
more food to make up the difference, and deforesting massive amounts of land
to do it.
To produce enough ethanol to fill up a typical SUV ( 25 gallons or so ) it
takes enough corn to feed a person for an entire year [Evil or Very Mad]
Millions are being pushed into starvation by this policy. Bad for the
environment, bad for starving people, and bad for our economy due to hugely
increased fuel prices...
Most importantly, ethanol is bad for our airplanes [Wink]
Yes, its time to fight ethanol use mandated by idiots as hard as we can.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you
could have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip |
Noel, But others will say that HHO generators are the way to go. Who knows?
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| Subject: | Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip |
Dave have you ever tested your fuel to confirm that it in fact actually does
have eth in it?? With the cost of eth and it's handling I wouldn't be
surprised if there aren't more than a few pumps out there marked E10 that
are actually E0.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:45 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip
Mike, Like i said I am not a supporter of ethanol but rather forced to use
it. My point is once again after thousands of gallons of gasoline burned in
my Kitfox with the mandated ethanol I have had ZERO problems like you and
others talk about. Show me why I am wrong
Dave
> Most importantly, ethanol is bad for our airplanes
>
> Yes, its time to fight ethanol use mandated by idiots as hard as we can.
>
> Mike
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip |
I'm one of them... except with reservations... HHO is a dangerous mixture
of gas to try to store! Production isn't over unity so burning it in a car
probably won't affect your gas mileage...except (again)... you are
introducing more oxygen into the combustion chamber so you may get more bang
out of your gas.
I think HHO has proven to be of some value for cutting metal with a torch
where extreme high temps are needed in very localized areas.
Hydrogen gas and a cloth plane... shades of the Zepplin!! J
Noel
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 3:28 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip
Noel, But others will say that HHO generators are the way to go. Who knows?
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