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Mon 09/08/08


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 05:34 AM - Parting out Model 2 (Stan Tew)
     2. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan DenneyRe: Kitfox Fly in and Dan DenneyRe: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney (Guy Buchanan)
     3. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (Guy Buchanan)
     4. 09:43 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney (lance miller)
     5. 11:22 AM - Re: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (Ted Palamarek)
     6. 12:21 PM - Re: Parting out Model 2 (JetPilot)
     7. 02:20 PM - Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (dave)
     8. 03:36 PM - Re: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (Lynn Matteson)
     9. 04:06 PM - Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (dave)
    10. 04:12 PM - Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (dave)
    11. 10:42 PM - Re: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip (Michael Gibbs)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:34:52 AM PST US
    From: Stan Tew <stan_tew@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Parting out Model 2
    After flying N8188F for almost 11 years I am parting it out due to landing in trees Friday 9/5/08. I have discovered the engine failure was due to deb ris in the fuel inlet port of the front carburetor starving the float bowl of fuel. The rear cylinder of the 582 blue head was running but couldn't pu ll the dead cylinder too.=0A=0AI have recovered the aircraft from the trees and have it back in my hangar. Many parts are serviceable as is like the e ngine and gearbox. some need minor repair-like the horizontal stabalizer. Others will require major repair.=0A=0AIf you are interested in obtaining parts please contact me.=0AStan Tew=0A8853 Oak Meadow Ct=0AMontgomery AL 36 116=0A(334) 272-0012 home=0A(334) 313-7934 cell=0Astan_tew@yahoo.com=0A- =0ASTAN 2=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 09:10:18 AM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan DenneyRe: Kitfox Fly in and
    Dan DenneyRe: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney At 08:38 AM 9/6/2008, you wrote: >My downloaded messages never show any pictures ?? How Come ?? Need some details George: Computer type: Operating system: Email software: Type of on-line access: (i.e. high or low speed) Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.


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    Time: 09:10:18 AM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip
    Hey Noel, Dave, Would you please take the alternative energy discussion off-line. It's interesting but not yet on-topic. (Unless someone with a HHO or electric Kitfox wants to pipe up.) Thanks, Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. At 12:58 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote: >I'm one of them... except with reservations... HHO is a dangerous >mixture of gas to try to store! Production isn't over unity so >burning it in a car probably won't affect your gas mileage...except >(again)... you are introducing more oxygen into the combustion >chamber so you may get more bang out of your gas. > >I think HHO has proven to be of some value for cutting metal with a >torch where extreme high temps are needed in very localized areas. > >Hydrogen gas and a cloth plane... shades of the Zepplin!! J > >Noel >


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    Time: 09:43:01 AM PST US
    From: lance miller <manceliller@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney
    well hello mr. les=2C i thought you fell off the face of the earth...lol. A nyway i am still here in minnesota=2C its probably my last week or 2 here =2C i was supposed to be in winchester =2C tx. 2 weeks ago. we have 4 lm 60 00s to install. love the biplane pic=2C Lance st@matronics.comSubject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney Here's another view. At the factory fly-in of 2000 or 2001=2C Dan flew it over to Caldwell (from Napa) for the Sat evening banquet.steve eccles wrote : here ya go -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of The Eathertons Sent: Thursday=2C September 04=2C 2008 10:40 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Fly in and Dan Denney > I saw the bi-plane version one night late on some unknown website and have never found it again. I would be interested in a picture of that if anyone knows where or how to get there. _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!5 50F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008


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    Time: 11:22:27 AM PST US
    From: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
    Subject: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip
    Guy In addition to taking the alt energy off the list EVERYONE should be reminded of the DO NOT ARCHIVE requirement for the fluff items so that when a person wants to search the archives, one needn't go through all this useless fluff, which are just personal opinions on meaningless items not pertaining to building or flying a Kitfox. Do Not Archive Ted Palamarek KF IV/912 _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan Sent: September 8, 2008 10:07 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip Hey Noel, Dave, Would you please take the alternative energy discussion off-line. It's interesting but not yet on-topic. (Unless someone with a HHO or electric Kitfox wants to pipe up.) Thanks, Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. At 12:58 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote: I'm one of them... except with reservations... HHO is a dangerous mixture of gas to try to store! Production isn't over unity so burning it in a car probably won't affect your gas mileage...except (again)... you are introducing more oxygen into the combustion chamber so you may get more bang out of your gas. I think HHO has proven to be of some value for cutting metal with a torch where extreme high temps are needed in very localized areas. Hydrogen gas and a cloth plane... shades of the Zepplin!! J Noel


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    Time: 12:21:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Parting out Model 2
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    Sorry to hear that Dan, are you going to be building another Kitfox ? Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3251#203251


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    Time: 02:20:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Ok I finally tested some gas today. I put in about 1 " of water into a container and added about 10 " of regular pump gas and the water level increased right away about 1/2" . I thine shook it and let it settle - now i has 2 " of water , shook it again and got a bit more . So there you go -- it got ethanol I guess? So what does that tell you ? what ever i been using has caused no issues for me yet. Dave aka fuel tester :- ) -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3270#203270


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    Time: 03:36:17 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip
    It helps to remember to add the "do not archive" if you put it into your signature (mail preferences on my machine), then before you send the mail, ask yourself if this is "a keeper" or not. If not, just send it. If it's worth keeping in the archives, remove the "do not archive" and send it....so simple even I can do it....I don't always remember, but that's another story. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs...short block assembled; waiting for heads Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly") do not archive On Sep 8, 2008, at 2:17 PM, Ted Palamarek wrote: > Guy > > > In addition to taking the alt energy off the list EVERYONE should > be reminded of the DO NOT ARCHIVE requirement for the fluff items > so that when a person wants to search the archives, one neednt go > through all this useless fluff, which are just personal opinions on > meaningless items not pertaining to building or flying a Kitfox. > > > Do Not Archive > > > Ted Palamarek > > KF IV/912 > > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox- > list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan > Sent: September 8, 2008 10:07 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip > > > Hey Noel, Dave, > Would you please take the alternative energy discussion off- > line. It's interesting but not yet on-topic. (Unless someone with a > HHO or electric Kitfox wants to pipe up.) > > Thanks, > > Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator > San Diego, CA > K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. > > > At 12:58 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote: > > > I'm one of them... except with reservations... HHO is a dangerous > mixture of gas to try to store! Production isn't over unity so > burning it in a car probably won't affect your gas mileage...except > (again)... you are introducing more oxygen into the combustion > chamber so you may get more bang out of your gas. > > I think HHO has proven to be of some value for cutting metal with a > torch where extreme high temps are needed in very localized areas. > > Hydrogen gas and a cloth plane... shades of the Zepplin!! J > > Noel > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-Listhttp:// > forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > ============================================================ _- > contribution_- > ===========================================================


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    Time: 04:06:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Lynn ands Ted , you have both hi-jacked this thread on relevant Kitfox talk with your "other nonsense." Is there a moderator here or what ? This thread was about ethanol use not your petty whining. Dave -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3285#203285


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    Time: 04:12:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Actually this was the original thread on this subject. Folks should learn to keep the topics and their post together. Yah my ethanol gas works fine for me although I am not a ethanol supporter. Dave -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3286#203286


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    Time: 10:42:36 PM PST US
    From: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Gas talk - Float plane trip
    Dave sez: >Lynn ands Ted , you have both hi-jacked this thread on relevant >Kitfox talk with your "other nonsense." Proper list etiquette is not "nonsense" Dave, but failing to treat others with respect is. Yes, Lynn and Ted should have changed the subject for their posts but that does not give you license to lambast them. >Folks should learn to keep the topics and their post together. ...particularly when you are guilty of the same offense. If you have a complaint about the list I'd appreciate it if you'd address your comments to Guy or myself off-list. Now, let's get back to talking about building and flying Kitfoxes and Avid Flyers, shall we? Mike G. Kitfox List Administrator




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