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1. 04:54 AM - Re: Lexan Turtledeck (W Duke)
2. 05:05 AM - Re: Lexan Turtledeck (fox5flyer)
3. 05:06 AM - Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
4. 05:42 AM - Re: aerocet amphibs (vetdrem)
5. 08:00 AM - Re: Warp Drive Angle (Earnest & Bonnie Jacques)
6. 09:04 AM - Re: Warp Drive Angle (Brian Morissette)
7. 09:24 AM - Marvel Mystery Oil-100LL (kcflys)
8. 09:55 AM - Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG (Guy Buchanan)
9. 10:07 AM - Re: aerocet amphibs (akflyer)
10. 11:19 AM - Re: Re: aerocet amphibs (Noel Loveys)
11. 11:53 AM - Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG (darinh)
12. 12:01 PM - Re: Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
13. 12:05 PM - Re: Warp Drive Angle (fox5flyer)
14. 12:17 PM - Re: Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG (Bob Brennan)
15. 12:55 PM - Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG (darinh)
16. 01:35 PM - Re: Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
17. 01:39 PM - Insurance (Bob Brennan)
18. 01:52 PM - Re: Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG (Lowell Fitt)
19. 02:08 PM - Lexan (jeff puls)
20. 02:24 PM - Re: Insurance (john beirne)
21. 03:01 PM - Re: Insurance (Firm)
22. 04:40 PM - Re: Re: Insurance (Lowell Fitt)
23. 04:52 PM - Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG (akflyer)
24. 05:19 PM - Re: Re: Insurance (Larry Huntley)
25. 05:36 PM - Re: Lexan (Larry Huntley)
26. 05:36 PM - It runs! (Lynn Matteson)
27. 05:47 PM - Re: aerocet amphibs (dholly)
28. 06:27 PM - Re: It runs! (fox5flyer)
29. 06:33 PM - Re: Warp Drive Angle (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
30. 06:40 PM - Re: It runs! (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
31. 07:07 PM - Re: It runs! (Lynn Matteson)
32. 07:18 PM - Re: It runs! (Lynn Matteson)
33. 09:22 PM - Re: Lexan (James Shumaker)
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| Subject: | Re: Lexan Turtledeck |
FWIW I installed with.- I don't guess I have an opinion on which is bette
r.- You could go without and add later if you wanted
Maxwell Duke
S6/TD/IO240
Dublin, GA
--- On Mon, 9/22/08, jeff puls <pulsair@mindspring.com> wrote:
From: jeff puls <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Lexan Turtledeck
I'm trimming my Lexan turtledeck that my wife just bought me for my birthda
y. Did you guys put the aluminum flanges (wings) on the sides or did you in
stall it without them? Thanks, Jeff Classic IV KTZR
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| Subject: | Re: Lexan Turtledeck |
I believe the td wings were for aerodynammics so no lift would be lost
in that area. They could be made from smoked lexan or acrylic to
somewhat match the turtle deck. Or possibly even the original aluminum
units and painted to match the wings.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 397+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but
progress."
- Joseph Joubert
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From: W Duke
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Lexan Turtledeck
FWIW I installed with. I don't guess I have an opinion on which
is better. You could go without and add later if you wanted
Maxwell Duke
S6/TD/IO240
Dublin, GA
--- On Mon, 9/22/08, jeff puls <pulsair@mindspring.com> wrote:
From: jeff puls <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Lexan Turtledeck
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 10:28 PM
I'm trimming my Lexan turtledeck that my wife just bought me
for my birthday. Did you guys put the aluminum flanges (wings) on the
sides or did you install it without them? Thanks, Jeff Classic IV KTZR
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG |
Several comments: apart from the effect on pitch with flaps, you probably don't
want to correct a balance/weight issue with aerodynamics.
The limits could be brought in line with a relocation of the battery (heavier battery)
in the tail. Try flying after calculating w/b the effect of a secured
10# bag of shot located on the tail spring bolt.
Gap seal will help elevator authority. Plain(plane) sticky shelf paper from Smith's
Marketplace works great though I can not attest to its longevity. Mine has
been on for 12 years and is still flexible.
Where does "drastic" begin when applying flaps. The classic iv as with your earlier
iii requires increasing amounts of back stick as flap is added, and is fairly
linear. In stalls can you sense whether it is stabilizer popping up or
the wings losing lift?
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From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
>
> Here is the deal. My Series 7, when flying solo with half tanks has a CG of
> about 10" (forward CG limit is 9" and aft is 16"). This is a bit on the nose
> heavy side...this is due to my engine and prop choice which together add about
> 30 lbs over the standard 912s and Warp Drive prop.
>
> I really would like to use the flaperons during landing to lower my stall speed
> but when I deploy them the nose pitches forward quite a bit. So much that I
can
> only flare to about a level attitude and this is with only the first notch of
> flaperons. I know you can put the trim assist on that reduces the back pressure
> on the stick but this doesn't help with the amount of flare available. Here
is
> the question: At what CG will the plane NOT experience a drastic pitch forward
> when flaperons are deployed (12", 14", 15", ect.)? Has anyone done this test?
> Any comments on this? Or techniques that work for you?
>
> I have heard that sealing the gap on the elevator will give better elevator
> authority as will adding VGs to the bottom side of the stab. I have not done
> this yet but will definitely seal the gaps....don't know about the VGs.
>
> --------
> Darin Hawkes
> Series 7 (Phase 1 - Flight Testing)
> 914 Turbo
> Kaysville, Utah
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| Subject: | Re: aerocet amphibs |
I give up,I quit, UNCLE, enough.
I added the length to the front struts, and took it out to the lake for a test.
It is a lot better, but I think that it could also use a few pounds in the tail
to raise the tips of the floats a little higher.
It was good enough that we did an hour or so of take-offs and landings with no
problems.
THEN IT WAS TIME TO HEAD BACK TO THE AIRPORT.
As I touched down on the runway, the thing started to veer off to the left and
I couldn't do anything about it. The plane slide on the grass and finally stopped
in some bushes.
We used a tractor to get it back to the hanger, and found that the left main gear
mechanism had popped out of the bearing mounted on the wheel well wall (I know,
I didn't think that it could happen either) and the left float came into
contact with the grass, causing drag.
There is very little damage, nothing that can't be straightened with a small hammer,
but I'm pretty fed up with this amphib thing.
I seriously considering removing the amphib mechanism, glassing up the wheel well
holes, and turning them into straight floats.
Any comments?
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| Subject: | Re: Warp Drive Angle |
Thanks for the question. Since I am new to building and to Kitfoxes, I
didn't know I was to do that. Actually, what is "static". Yes it does go
over the redline when on the ground. I would have thought the AP would have
set that properly, but I guess not. Please explain how to do that and get
the angle right. Thanks.
Ted
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| Subject: | Warp Drive Angle |
Hi Ted
Static is "not moving". When your plane is tied down (static) your prop and
engine have to work harder because all the air is being pulled through the
prop. When your plane is moving forward (flying) the engine has less work to
do because less air is being pulled across the blades. Less work at the
same power setting means higher rpm. So, if you are over the redline when
static, once you start flying you are not in a good position. Your prop is
not set course enough to pull your plane through the air.
I used to set my 582 at 5800rpm static which translated to ~6250rpm in level
flight. I was looking for more cruise speed so I preferred a course setting.
The web site below tells how to use the warp drive protractor to set your
pitch.
http://www.warpdriveprops.com/protractor.html
Hope this helps
Brian
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Earnest &
Bonnie Jacques
Sent: September 23, 2008 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Warp Drive Angle
Thanks for the question. Since I am new to building and to Kitfoxes, I
didn't know I was to do that. Actually, what is "static". Yes it does go
over the redline when on the ground. I would have thought the AP would have
set that properly, but I guess not. Please explain how to do that and get
the angle right. Thanks.
Ted
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| Subject: | Marvel Mystery Oil-100LL |
Those who use this combination. What ratio is used?
Keith C
Waiting to build.
MHR Ca
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG |
At 04:37 PM 9/22/2008, you wrote:
>At what CG will the plane NOT experience a drastic pitch forward
>when flaperons are deployed (12", 14", 15", ect.)? Has anyone done
>this test? Any comments on this? Or techniques that work for you?
The flaperons will always cause a pitch change, because they operate
as a stabilator, albeit one on a very short fuselage! Do you not have
an elevator trim system? If not, I'd contact Lowell and get one
installed ASAP, as it will make your flying experience much better.
>I have heard that sealing the gap on the elevator will give better
>elevator authority as will adding VGs to the bottom side of the
>stab. I have not done this yet but will definitely seal the
>gaps....don't know about the VGs.
On a IV gap sealing makes a substantial difference in elevator
authority in the flare.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: aerocet amphibs |
as with anything, when you start getting more complex you have more things that
can go wrong. I would say dont give up so easy. I have been doinking with
the floats for 2 yrs on my brothers plane trying to find the "perfect" setting,
not just one that works ok.
Hang in there, and really give the rigging and all mechanical parts a good going
over to make sure every part of the system is within tolerance.
--------
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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| Subject: | Re: aerocet amphibs |
Comment... Sure, no sweat!
You're almost there, why quit now. The main axels and actuators are
something that you have to keep up on... See if there is a way you can
reinforce the bearing cap so it can't slip out again.
Be careful how much weight you put in the tail... it shouldn't take much.
On the outside chance you do remove the landing gear, try to make it
reversible and you might find you won't need the aft ballast.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of vetdrem
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:12 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: aerocet amphibs
I give up,I quit, UNCLE, enough.
I added the length to the front struts, and took it out to the lake for a
test. It is a lot better, but I think that it could also use a few pounds
in the tail to raise the tips of the floats a little higher.
It was good enough that we did an hour or so of take-offs and landings with
no problems.
THEN IT WAS TIME TO HEAD BACK TO THE AIRPORT.
As I touched down on the runway, the thing started to veer off to the left
and I couldn't do anything about it. The plane slide on the grass and
finally stopped in some bushes.
We used a tractor to get it back to the hanger, and found that the left main
gear mechanism had popped out of the bearing mounted on the wheel well wall
(I know, I didn't think that it could happen either) and the left float came
into contact with the grass, causing drag.
There is very little damage, nothing that can't be straightened with a small
hammer, but I'm pretty fed up with this amphib thing.
I seriously considering removing the amphib mechanism, glassing up the wheel
well holes, and turning them into straight floats.
Any comments?
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG |
John,
I don't like the idea of the battery in the tail but I do think a adjustable weight
system would be the ticket. That way, when I do load the airplane up I can
take the weight out and still be within the CG range.
Guy,
Yes, I have the trim system with the dual tabs on the elevators and can trim the
airplane for level fly or steady descent rate with flaps but it is the amount
of elevator authority that is the problem when flaring. Without flaps, it is
fine, with flaps there is not enough to get the tail down so wheel landings
are all that are possible...wheel landings are fine but I prefer the full stall
landing most of the time.
--------
Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (Phase 1 - Flight Testing)
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG |
Sounds like you are a prime candidate for gap seals. I can help you with that.
John
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
>
> John,
>
> I don't like the idea of the battery in the tail but I do think a adjustable
> weight system would be the ticket. That way, when I do load the airplane up I
> can take the weight out and still be within the CG range.
>
> Guy,
>
> Yes, I have the trim system with the dual tabs on the elevators and can trim
the
> airplane for level fly or steady descent rate with flaps but it is the amount
of
> elevator authority that is the problem when flaring. Without flaps, it is fine,
> with flaps there is not enough to get the tail down so wheel landings are all
> that are possible...wheel landings are fine but I prefer the full stall landing
> most of the time.
>
> --------
> Darin Hawkes
> Series 7 (Phase 1 - Flight Testing)
> 914 Turbo
> Kaysville, Utah
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5765#205765
>
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>
>
>
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<DIV>Sounds like you are a prime candidate for gap seals. I can help you
with that.</DIV>
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<DIV>John</DIV>
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weight system would be the ticket. That way, when I do load the airplane up
I <BR>> can take the weight out and still be within the CG range. <BR>>
<BR>> Guy, <BR>> <BR>> Yes, I have the trim system with the dual tabs
on the elevators and can trim the <BR>> airplane for level fly or steady descent
rate with flaps but it is the amount of <BR>> elevator authority that
is the problem when flaring. Without flaps, it is fine, <BR>> with flaps
there is not enough to get the tail down so wheel landings are all <BR>> that
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| Subject: | Re: Warp Drive Angle |
I agree with Brian. That is good advice, IMO. Not only does it give
the 582 a better cruise (who needs to get off the ground in 100 feet
anyway), better fuel consumption, and also it keeps a better load on the
engine so that EGTs are more manageable. Gerry, at Greensky Adventures,
an old Rotax guru gave me the same advice to use 5800 static. Worked
for me and there was no more screwing around.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 397+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but
progress."
- Joseph Joubert
Hi Ted
Static is "not moving". When your plane is tied down (static) your
prop and engine have to work harder because all the air is being pulled
through the prop. When your plane is moving forward (flying) the engine
has less work to do because less air is being pulled across the blades.
Less work at the same power setting means higher rpm. So, if you are
over the redline when static, once you start flying you are not in a
good position. Your prop is not set course enough to pull your plane
through the air.
I used to set my 582 at 5800rpm static which translated to ~6250rpm in
level flight. I was looking for more cruise speed so I preferred a
course setting.
The web site below tells how to use the warp drive protractor to set
your pitch.
http://www.warpdriveprops.com/protractor.html
Hope this helps
Brian
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Earnest &
Bonnie Jacques
Sent: September 23, 2008 10:58 AM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Warp Drive Angle
Thanks for the question. Since I am new to building and to Kitfoxes,
I didn't know I was to do that. Actually, what is "static". Yes it
does go over the redline when on the ground. I would have thought the
AP would have set that properly, but I guess not. Please explain how to
do that and get the angle right. Thanks.
Ted
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG |
Can someone here please explain "gap seals"? I have some fabric tape on the
gap between the vertical stabilizer and the rudder and think I saw a note
somewhere about it giving more yaw authority, which the Model II famously
lacks. Does the same thing apply to the horizontal?
Bob Brennan - N717GB
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
kerrjohna@comcast.net
Sent: 23 September 2008 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG
Sounds like you are a prime candidate for gap seals. I can help you with
that.
John
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
>
> John,
>
> I don't like the idea of the battery in the tail but I do think a
adjustable
> weight system would be the ticket. That way, when I do load the airplane
up I
> can take the weight out and still be within the CG range.
>
> Guy,
>
> Yes, I have the trim system with the dual tabs on the elevators and can
trim the
> airplane for level fly or steady descent rate with flaps but it is the
amount of
> elevator authority that is the problem when flaring. Without flaps, it is
fine,
> with flaps there is not enough to get the tail down so wheel landings are
all
> that are possible...wheel landings are fine but I prefe r the e Web
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG |
John,
Thanks for the offer but I put them on last night. I used the 3M polyurethane
film they put on the front of cars (know as "Clear bra") and it was slick. It
is virtually transparent and looks great...was a bit of a pain to stick the two
pieces together without bubbles but a little Windex and a squeegee helped.
I was going to fly it this morning to see the effect but staying up until 1:30
applying it put an end to that thinking. I will test it out tomorrow.
Bob,
Sealing the gap on the horizontal will give increased performance just like on
the vertical...at least theoretically.
--------
Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (Phase 1 - Flight Testing)
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG |
good, let us know the results.
John
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
>
> John,
>
> Thanks for the offer but I put them on last night. I used the 3M polyurethane
> film they put on the front of cars (know as "Clear bra") and it was slick. It
> is virtually transparent and looks great...was a bit of a pain to stick the two
> pieces together without bubbles but a little Windex and a squeegee helped. I
> was going to fly it this morning to see the effect but staying up until 1:30
> applying it put an end to that thinking. I will test it out tomorrow.
>
> Bob,
>
> Sealing the gap on the horizontal will give increased performance just like on
> the vertical...at least theoretically.
>
> --------
> Darin Hawkes
> Series 7 (Phase 1 - Flight Testing)
> 914 Turbo
> Kaysville, Utah
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5776#205776
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<DIV>good, let us know the results.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John</DIV>
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solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
<BR><BR>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "darinh"
<GERNS25@NETSCAPE.NET><BR>> <BR>> John, <BR>> <BR>> Thanks
for the offer but I put them on last night. I used the 3M polyurethane <BR>>
film they put on the front of cars (know as "Clear bra") and it was slick.
It <BR>> is virtually transparent and looks great...was a bit of a pain to
stick the two <BR>> pieces together without bubbles but a little Windex and
a squeegee helped. I <BR>> was going to fly it this morning to see the effect
but staying up until 1:30 <BR>> applying it put an end to that thinking.
I will test it out tomorrow. <BR>> <BR>> Bob, <BR>> <BR>> Sealing
the gap on the horizontal will give increased performance just like on <BR>>
the vertical...at least theoretically. <BR>> <
BR>>
<BR>&g
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Now that I am legally able to fly again I realised I'd better get some
insurance before seriously taking to the air, especially with all the
cautions going back and forth on this list about things I never even worried
about before. :-o
On reading the archives, especially of those who have actually made claims,
I got a quote from Falcon through the EAA. It seems to be in line with older
discussions here but there is one glaring discrepancy I need to resolve
before signing on the dotted line.
I figure the most likely scenario for breaking my airplane is a bad landing
or a forced landing. Besides the liability and medical which I signed up for
in full, the "hull insurance" seems the most likely thing I would need if
the UAGIs (UK term - Unintentional Air-Ground Interface) (sounds so much
nicer than "crashes") on this list are typical. But... the agent says that
if the damage is more than 70% of the insured value the plane is totalled,
they will pay the full amount, but they then *own* the airplane and
everything in it.
So how are you guys re-using bits and "parting out" broken Kitfoxes?? I
thought I could just insure for what it would cost to buy a new airframe
from the McBeans and re-use the engine and avionics, assuming they were ok.
My agent says nope - you break it, we own it. All of it. Not that I mind
getting a brand new airplane paid for, but at that price not insuring it for
the full value means I could have bought a new (used) one in about 10-15
years anyway.
All advice / opinions welcome, before I sign.
Bob Brennan - N717GB
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG |
Darin,
A local guy - since taken by cancer - built a Series V with the IO240, I
believe. His solution to the heavy firewall forward was to mount a small
metal toolbox on the aft baggage compartment floor with some lead shot in
it. It was part of the equipment list, but was exchanged for baggage when
going on long trips. I don't know what he did if he wanted to do come
exporing once there, but it is one idea that has been used.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:53 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG
>
> John,
>
> I don't like the idea of the battery in the tail but I do think a
> adjustable weight system would be the ticket. That way, when I do load
> the airplane up I can take the weight out and still be within the CG
> range.
>
> Guy,
>
> Yes, I have the trim system with the dual tabs on the elevators and can
> trim the airplane for level fly or steady descent rate with flaps but it
> is the amount of elevator authority that is the problem when flaring.
> Without flaps, it is fine, with flaps there is not enough to get the tail
> down so wheel landings are all that are possible...wheel landings are fine
> but I prefer the full stall landing most of the time.
>
> --------
> Darin Hawkes
> Series 7 (Phase 1 - Flight Testing)
> 914 Turbo
> Kaysville, Utah
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5765#205765
>
>
>
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Anybody know if they make a 3" cutting wheel for Lexan?
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Hi Bob
Insurance is hopefully a waste of money,
I had decided that if the worst happened and I was lucky enough to walk away unhurt
then I would put the loss of the aircraft down to experience, how ever as
my brothers fly the fox as well we have decided it prudent to fully insure for
liability and hull loss.
Next to hanger, it is our biggest operating expense and yes in a ten year period
you will have spent the price of a new kit.
In the event of a claim the insurance company do indeed own the hull but they will
be keen to dispose of it, often for a small amount
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Just from My experience, I had Falcon in 2002 when I hot a bird and ended up making
a bad landing in a lake bed. They totaled it, but I was able to buy all the
parts for $500.00 I was able to reuse or sell all of it.
Howard
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This is an interesting discussion. I had falcon as well, and to be sure,
the insurance company owns it in the event of a claim. That said, a claim
doesn't have to be filed, I suppose. In my situation, the insurance company
assumed posession of the airplane immediately, long before a claim was
filed. I guess, they were concerned that I might try to remove saleable
items if it were returned to my posession. And the contracted bone yard
stored it outside in the rain. Lots of moisture damage, but they carefully
moved it into a hangar when we went up to claim our property - snow jobs
abound even in aviation. Only those items affixed to the airframe are the
property of the insurance company. Headsets, portable GPS, tools, firstaid
kits, etc. are the property of the owner.
For me the difficulty arose, by not being in much of a mood to know what my
future plans were. Then to top that off, the disposal was by silent auction
and I was not notified of the auction, nor the terminination of the bid
period. I discovered the system after the bid period had expired. I was
further told that the insuracne company wasn't too keen on the original
owner having prior knowledge as it might be construed as a conflict of
interest.
A couple of points pertinent to the discussion.
If you are going to insure for hull, make sure it is for enough for your
purposes. Example, insuring a $30,000 airplane for $15,000 to save some
money means it will be considered totaled if there is $10,500 in damage.
Solution: don't file a claim and lose all the premiums paid.
Have a plan. Do your homework in advance, i.e., how does the auction work.
Decide up front if the whole thing is important enough to go for again, even
in the event of a prolonged recouperation. I was still wearing the back
brace when the auction closed and was still feeling pretty crappy. If it is
that important, have a friend manage the whole thing, bidding etc.
My insurance is what is keeping me in business, as I type this. I'm glad I
had it, but still question what I would have bid and if any bid would have
been too much of a gamble given the possible value of the bones.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Firm" <howfirm@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:01 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Insurance
>
> Just from My experience, I had Falcon in 2002 when I hot a bird and ended
> up making a bad landing in a lake bed. They totaled it, but I was able to
> buy all the parts for $500.00 I was able to reuse or sell all of it.
> Howard
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5806#205806
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperons, Trim Settings, & CG |
darinh wrote:
> John,
>
> Thanks for the offer but I put them on last night. I used the 3M polyurethane
film they put on the front of cars (know as "Clear bra") and it was slick.
It is virtually transparent and looks great...was a bit of a pain to stick the
two pieces together without bubbles but a little Windex and a squeegee helped.
I was going to fly it this morning to see the effect but staying up until 1:30
applying it put an end to that thinking. I will test it out tomorrow.
>
> Bob,
>
> Sealing the gap on the horizontal will give increased performance just like on
the vertical...at least theoretically.
When we put my brothers II on floats I was not able to get the touch down speed
under 50 until I sealed the gap on the elevator with what I had on hand... Duct
tape. With gap seals I never run out of elevator even uhhuh at "gross" plus.
I can drag it in at 35-38.
--------
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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After 7 weeks on the "disabled list" I fired up my rebuilt Jabiru
2200 this evening...and it sounded great. I cranked it for a few
seconds with ignition off, just to be sure that it would NOT start.
Then I switched the "mags" on and fired her up...what a sweet sound
after so long silent. The new ignition system worked flawlessly, and
a mag check showed the normal very little drop between the two
systems. This is the Electroair ignition system that I'm speaking of,
and uses two magnetic sensors aimed at the crankshaft trigger wheel.
So far I'm thrilled with the new system, and with (patting myself on
the back) the way the engine now runs. I'm not saying that it's any
better than the stock Jabiru ignition system, but a few hours from
now when I would normally have to check my rotors...what rotors?
That's a small issue to be sure, but hopefully I'll have piece of
mind with the new rebuild and the new ignition system.
Test flight comes tomorrow morning.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs...engine assembled and back in the plane; ready
to fly
Status: "Condition grounded (not for long, I hope), but determined to
try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
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| Subject: | Re: aerocet amphibs |
vetdrem wrote:
> We used a tractor to get it back to the hanger, and found that the left main
gear mechanism had popped out of the bearing mounted on the wheel well wall (I
know, I didn't think that it could happen either)...
Louie - Do you feel this particular failure is a result of a rough turf strip
landing or an unrelated mechanical failure? Referencing part #'s from the "1100
Series Floats Group Assembly Part Numbers #1102 Amphibious Floats" .pdf document,
exactly which parts failed? I'd like to check mine for unusual signs.. Oh,
and I would also be curious what S/N's your floats are? Keep the faith, Doug
--------
Airdale Avid+ project | Jab2200 | Aerocet 1100 Amphibs
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Kudos, Lynn. Good luck on your flight in the morning. Looks like the wx
will be perfect for it.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
<kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:36 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: It runs!
>
> After 7 weeks on the "disabled list" I fired up my rebuilt Jabiru 2200
> this evening...and it sounded great. I cranked it for a few seconds with
> ignition off, just to be sure that it would NOT start.
> Then I switched the "mags" on and fired her up...what a sweet sound after
> so long silent. The new ignition system worked flawlessly, and a mag
> check showed the normal very little drop between the two systems. This is
> the Electroair ignition system that I'm speaking of, and uses two
> magnetic sensors aimed at the crankshaft trigger wheel. So far I'm
> thrilled with the new system, and with (patting myself on the back) the
> way the engine now runs. I'm not saying that it's any better than the
> stock Jabiru ignition system, but a few hours from now when I would
> normally have to check my rotors...what rotors? That's a small issue to
> be sure, but hopefully I'll have piece of mind with the new rebuild and
> the new ignition system.
>
> Test flight comes tomorrow morning.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster
> Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs...engine assembled and back in the plane; ready to
> fly
> Status: "Condition grounded (not for long, I hope), but determined to
> try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
>
>
>
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Good news Lynn
When you've had a chance to fully test it out let us know.
Question - what CHT's do you run on your Jab?
Gary
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Kitfox-List: It runs!
After 7 weeks on the "disabled list" I fired up my rebuilt Jabiru
2200 this evening...and it sounded great. I cranked it for a few
seconds with ignition off, just to be sure that it would NOT start.
Then I switched the "mags" on and fired her up...what a sweet sound
after so long silent. The new ignition system worked flawlessly, and
a mag check showed the normal very little drop between the two
systems. This is the Electroair ignition system that I'm speaking of,
and uses two magnetic sensors aimed at the crankshaft trigger wheel.
So far I'm thrilled with the new system, and with (patting myself on
the back) the way the engine now runs. I'm not saying that it's any
better than the stock Jabiru ignition system, but a few hours from
now when I would normally have to check my rotors...what rotors?
That's a small issue to be sure, but hopefully I'll have piece of
mind with the new rebuild and the new ignition system.
Test flight comes tomorrow morning.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs...engine assembled and back in the plane; ready
to fly
Status: "Condition grounded (not for long, I hope), but determined to
try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
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Hi Gary-
Before the rebuild, my CHT's were running around 270 F for the most
part.
Will report tomorrow how it goes.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs...engine assembled and back in the plane;
ignition system installed, wiring in progress
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
On Sep 23, 2008, at 9:39 PM, gary.algate@sandvik.com wrote:
>
> Good news Lynn
>
> When you've had a chance to fully test it out let us know.
>
> Question - what CHT's do you run on your Jab?
>
> Gary
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> After 7 weeks on the "disabled list" I fired up my rebuilt Jabiru
> 2200 this evening...and it sounded great. I cranked it for a few
> seconds with ignition off, just to be sure that it would NOT start.
> Then I switched the "mags" on and fired her up...what a sweet sound
> after so long silent. The new ignition system worked flawlessly, and
> a mag check showed the normal very little drop between the two
> systems. This is the Electroair ignition system that I'm speaking of,
> and uses two magnetic sensors aimed at the crankshaft trigger wheel.
> So far I'm thrilled with the new system, and with (patting myself on
> the back) the way the engine now runs. I'm not saying that it's any
> better than the stock Jabiru ignition system, but a few hours from
> now when I would normally have to check my rotors...what rotors?
> That's a small issue to be sure, but hopefully I'll have piece of
> mind with the new rebuild and the new ignition system.
>
> Test flight comes tomorrow morning.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster
> Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs...engine assembled and back in the plane; ready
> to fly
> Status: "Condition grounded (not for long, I hope), but determined to
> try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
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Thanks, Deke-
Recall that it was a flight to meet up with you that got me to
checking the growth of wheat here in lovely Michigan, so I won't
promise to head up that way tomorrow at least. : )
You're right, the weather is supposed to be great all week....perfect
for breaking in a 'new" engine.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs...engine assembled and back in the plane; ready
to fly
Status: "Condition grounded (not for long, I hope), but determined to
try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
On Sep 23, 2008, at 9:26 PM, fox5flyer wrote:
> <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
>
> Kudos, Lynn. Good luck on your flight in the morning. Looks like
> the wx will be perfect for it.
> Deke
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> To: <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com>;
> <jabiruengines@yahoogroups.com>; <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:36 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: It runs!
>
>
>>
>> After 7 weeks on the "disabled list" I fired up my rebuilt
>> Jabiru 2200 this evening...and it sounded great. I cranked it for
>> a few seconds with ignition off, just to be sure that it would
>> NOT start.
>> Then I switched the "mags" on and fired her up...what a sweet
>> sound after so long silent. The new ignition system worked
>> flawlessly, and a mag check showed the normal very little drop
>> between the two systems. This is the Electroair ignition system
>> that I'm speaking of, and uses two magnetic sensors aimed at the
>> crankshaft trigger wheel. So far I'm thrilled with the new
>> system, and with (patting myself on the back) the way the engine
>> now runs. I'm not saying that it's any better than the stock
>> Jabiru ignition system, but a few hours from now when I would
>> normally have to check my rotors...what rotors? That's a small
>> issue to be sure, but hopefully I'll have piece of mind with the
>> new rebuild and the new ignition system.
>>
>> Test flight comes tomorrow morning.
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Kitfox IV Speedster
>> Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs...engine assembled and back in the plane;
>> ready to fly
>> Status: "Condition grounded (not for long, I hope), but determined
>> to try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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--- Original Message ----=0AFrom: jeff puls <pulsair@mindspring.com>=0ATo:
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Subject: Kitfox-List: Lexan=0A=0A=0AAnybody know if-they make a 3" cuttin
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