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Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:58 AM - Re: First Flight  (steve shinabery)
     2. 03:42 AM - Re: First Flight  (Lynn Matteson)
     3. 07:10 AM - looking for a right doo for a classic 4  (kirk hull)
     4. 07:12 AM - Re: First Flight  (jdmcbean)
     5. 09:28 AM - Re: First Flight  (Rick)
     6. 12:38 PM - Re: First Flight  (Dan Billingsley)
     7. 02:11 PM - Coolant overflow bottle placement  (wingnut)
     8. 05:21 PM - Re: First Flight  (Brian Morissette)
     9. 05:29 PM - Rotax 912UL no start  (rcsfca)
    10. 06:48 PM - Re: Rotax 912UL no start  (Sbennett3@aol.com)
 
 
 
________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________


Time: 01:58:56 AM PST US
From: steve shinabery <shinco@bright.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First Flight


Jim Corner wrote:
> Finally after 3 1/2 years my Model five flew today!
>
> A short uneventful flight, now I can get down to some serious flying.
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> Jim Corner
> Model 2, 582,. Ivo med !FA, 1100 hrs
> Model 5 under construction
> Calgary, AB
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WOW,,,Great Going Jim...lets go fly....Steve Shinabery N554KF  
KF2..St.Marys Ohio  Home to Great Lakes Kitfox Fly In


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Time: 03:42:25 AM PST US
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First Flight


Congratulations, Jim....I know the feeling, and it only gets better.

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs, and counting...all systems are go, or nearly so...
do not archive

On Oct 4, 2008, at 1:21 AM, Jim Corner wrote:

> Finally after 3 1/2 years my Model five flew today!
>
> A short uneventful flight, now I can get down to some serious flying.
>
>
> Jim Corner
> Model 2, 582,. Ivo med !FA, 1100 hrs
> Model 5 under construction
> Calgary, AB


________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________


Time: 07:10:04 AM PST US
From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: looking for a right doo for a classic 4


I am looking for a right door that I can modify to use for taking pictures.
If anybody had an extra they are willing to part with please let me know


________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________


Time: 07:12:11 AM PST US
From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: First Flight


Congrats Jim !!   Job well done.  Be safe !!

Send us some details and pics.

Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
Ph 208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Corner
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 11:22 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight

Finally after 3 1/2 years my Model five flew today!

A short uneventful flight, now I can get down to some serious flying.


________________________________  Message 5  _____________________________________


Time: 09:28:33 AM PST US
From: "Rick" <wingsdown@verizon.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: First Flight



 Was there ever a doubt you would complete it. Great, now fly that
beauty down to CNO so I can get that ride.


Rick


________________________________  Message 6  _____________________________________


Time: 12:38:48 PM PST US
From: Dan Billingsley <dan@azshowersolutions.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First Flight

Jim, Nice looking plane and congratulations on the first flight! Is that a PolyTone
and if so, which color is it? Thanks, Dan 


Jim Corner <jcorner@shaw.ca> wrote:
  Finally after 3 1/2 years my Model five flew today!

A short uneventful flight, now I can get down to some serious flying.


IMGP2907.JPG


Jim Corner
Model 2, 582,. Ivo med !FA, 1100 hrs
Model 5 under construction
Calgary, AB


________________________________  Message 7  _____________________________________


Time: 02:11:43 PM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: Coolant overflow bottle placement
From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>


I recently decided to remove the carb heat system that was installed on my Model
IV in favor of a simplified installation with the filters mounted right on the
carbs. The problem I have is that the coolant overflow bottle is in the way
of one of the filters. The firewall is rather busy and I don't see very many
options for mounting. Anyone have pictures of a similar setup?

--------
Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)


Read this topic online here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7381#207381


________________________________  Message 8  _____________________________________


Time: 05:21:07 PM PST US
From: "Brian Morissette" <brianm@snolab.ca>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: First Flight


Congratulations 

Brian


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Corner
Sent: October 4, 2008 1:22 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight

Finally after 3 1/2 years my Model five flew today!

A short uneventful flight, now I can get down to some serious flying.


________________________________  Message 9  _____________________________________


Time: 05:29:35 PM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912UL no start
From: "rcsfca" <r66rc-matronics@yahoo.com>


Well, brainiacs, I've got a puzzle for you in the Rotax ignition department.

We last flew the KF (a 1993 Model IV - 1200) in June/08, ten hours of flying over
two days, from Arizona to its new home in the San Francisco Bay Area. Wonderful
flying, no hiccups. Fuel was and still is 100LL. The plane and engine now
have 273 hours TT (yes, it's that low, but we know its history very well, so
there's no issues about misrepresented use, etc.). 

Until last Saturday, neither the plane nor the engine had moved since June. We
had it in the hangar, working on the gear and the brakes. I also installed a Battery
Minder from VDC in July but that was the only electrical/mechanical change
involving the power system.

Last Saturday, we rolled it out, topped off the 100LL, and she started after 20
or 30 seconds of engine-turning but ran rough, as though running on less than
4 cylinders. After about a minute or so, we shut it down and it hasn't started
since, and we're goin' nuts trying to figure it out. Cranking, cranking, cranking.
Lots of battery but no start. 

Fuel system is solid - I opened the float bowl on each carb and they were full
of fuel. We tried a bit of starting fluid in each carb throat. No luck. 

I looked at the plugs on two of the cylinders and both were very good looking,
light tan with no signs of fouling, and the electrodes were very square with no
wear.

I then got a spark plug wire tester to see if there was any juice getting to the
plugs and the tester indicated NO spark. I then looked carefully at the ignition
module wiring to see if there were any apparent wiring problems like bad
grounds. Nothing was evident. 

So now I have to turn to the forum for insights and others' experience. Do the
ignition units go belly up without warning? Am I overlooking something? Ideas?


Thanks,

Rich Cunningham
SF Bay Area


Read this topic online here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7391#207391


________________________________  Message 10  ____________________________________


Time: 06:48:24 PM PST US
From: Sbennett3@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912UL no start

Rich, I have a 4/1200 classic built in 93 myself. I've been  flying a lot of cross
countries this summer. I only use 93 auto gas when local,  but on CC's I use
100LL. I'm having hard start problems the last 4 starts. I  spin prop and it
seems there's no compression on 1 or 2 cylinders. Today I put 8  ounces per
10 gallons of Marvel mystery in my gas and 6 ounces in my oil res. I  think my
prob was stuck valves as I have read on here before.  Our Rotax  motors don't
seem to like leaded fuel. If you know it's an ignition problem i'm  off base
here, but if you're searching, try what I did and it may work.   After I flew
150 miles today, I let the plane sit for a couple hours. (while I  ate my hot
dog and hamburger) When I fired it back up (5'th start) It was  pumping up all
cylinders and ran like a dream. I'm happy with my results...  Steve Bennett 
4 classic 1200 speedwing 965hrs and loving my little  bird.  Oh ya, I live in
NC   Durham NC


In a message dated 10/4/2008 8:30:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  r66rc-matronics@yahoo.com
writes:

-->  Kitfox-List message posted by: "rcsfca"  <r66rc-matronics@yahoo.com>

Well, brainiacs, I've got a puzzle  for you in the Rotax ignition department.

We last flew the KF (a 1993  Model IV - 1200) in June/08, ten hours of flying over
two days, from Arizona  to its new home in the San Francisco Bay Area. Wonderful
flying, no hiccups.  Fuel was and still is 100LL. The plane and engine
now have 273 hours TT (yes,  it's that low, but we know its history very well,
so there's no issues about  misrepresented use, etc.). 

Until last Saturday, neither the plane nor  the engine had moved since June. We
had it in the hangar, working on the gear  and the brakes. I also installed a
Battery Minder from VDC in July but that  was the only electrical/mechanical
change involving the power  system.

Last Saturday, we rolled it out, topped off the 100LL, and she  started after 20
or 30 seconds of engine-turning but ran rough, as though  running on less than
4 cylinders. After about a minute or so, we shut it down  and it hasn't started
since, and we're goin' nuts trying to figure it out.  Cranking, cranking,
cranking. Lots of battery but no start. 

Fuel  system is solid - I opened the float bowl on each carb and they were full
of  fuel. We tried a bit of starting fluid in each carb throat. No luck. 

I  looked at the plugs on two of the cylinders and both were very good looking,
light tan with no signs of fouling, and the electrodes were very square with
no wear.

I then got a spark plug wire tester to see if there was any  juice getting to the
plugs and the tester indicated NO spark. I then looked  carefully at the ignition
module wiring to see if there were any apparent  wiring problems like bad
grounds. Nothing was evident. 

So now I have  to turn to the forum for insights and others' experience. Do the
ignition  units go belly up without warning? Am I overlooking something? Ideas?


Thanks,

Rich Cunningham
SF Bay Area


Read  this topic online  here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7391#207391


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<DIV><FONT size=4>Rich, I have a 4/1200 classic built in 93 myself. I've been 
flying a lot of cross countries this summer. I only use 93 auto gas when local,

but on CC's I use 100LL. I'm having hard start problems the last 4 starts. I 
spin prop and it seems there's no compression on 1 or 2 cylinders. Today I put
8 
ounces per 10 gallons of Marvel mystery in my gas and 6 ounces in my oil res. I

think my prob was stuck valves as I have read on here before.&nbsp; Our Rotax 
motors don't seem to like leaded fuel. If you know it's an ignition problem i'm

off base here, but if you're searching, try what I did and it may work.&nbsp; 
After I flew 150 miles today, I let the plane sit for a couple hours. (while I

ate my hot dog and hamburger) When I fired it back up (5'th start) It was 
pumping up all cylinders and ran like a dream. I'm happy with my results... 
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  Kitfox-List message posted by: "rcsfca" 
  &lt;r66rc-matronics@yahoo.com&gt;<BR><BR>Well, brainiacs, I've got a puzzle 
  for you in the Rotax ignition department.<BR><BR>We last flew the KF (a 1993

  Model IV - 1200) in June/08, ten hours of flying over two days, from Arizona

  to its new home in the San Francisco Bay Area. Wonderful flying, no hiccups.

  Fuel was and still is 100LL. The plane and engine now have 273 hours TT (yes,

  it's that low, but we know its history very well, so there's no issues about

  misrepresented use, etc.). <BR><BR>Until last Saturday, neither the plane nor

  the engine had moved since June. We had it in the hangar, working on the gear

  and the brakes. I also installed a Battery Minder from VDC in July but that 
  was the only electrical/mechanical change involving the power 
  system.<BR><BR>Last Saturday, we rolled it out, topped off the 100LL, and she

  started after 20 or 30 seconds of engine-turning but ran rough, as though 
  running on less than 4 cylinders. After about a minute or so, we shut it down

  and it hasn't started since, and we're goin' nuts trying to figure it out. 
  Cranking, cranking, cranking. Lots of battery but no start. <BR><BR>Fuel 
  system is solid - I opened the float bowl on each carb and they were full of

  fuel. We tried a bit of starting fluid in each carb throat. No luck. <BR><BR>I

  looked at the plugs on two of the cylinders and both were very good looking,

  light tan with no signs of fouling, and the electrodes were very square with

  no wear.<BR><BR>I then got a spark plug wire tester to see if there was any 
  juice getting to the plugs and the tester indicated NO spark. I then looked 
  carefully at the ignition module wiring to see if there were any apparent 
  wiring problems like bad grounds. Nothing was evident. <BR><BR>So now I have

  to turn to the forum for insights and others' experience. Do the ignition 
  units go belly up without warning? Am I overlooking something? Ideas? 
  <BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>Rich Cunningham<BR>SF Bay Area<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Read

  this topic online 
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