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1. 02:56 AM - Re: 582 starter not engaging. (steve shinabery)
2. 02:58 AM - Re: My next aircraft (READY TO FLY!!) - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 (steve shinabery)
3. 05:52 AM - Re: 582 starter not engaging. (815TL)
4. 06:25 AM - Re: 582 starter not engaging. (Guy Buchanan)
5. 06:47 AM - Re: My next aircraft (READY TO FLY!!) - Kitfox IV With ContO-200 (Francisco Drovetta)
6. 06:47 AM - Re: 582 starter not engaging. (Bill Malpass)
7. 08:18 AM - Re: 582 starter not engaging. (815TL)
8. 08:39 AM - Re: Re: 582 starter not engaging. (fox5flyer)
9. 08:59 AM - Re: Re: 582 starter not engaging. (Bill Malpass)
10. 10:34 AM - Re: My next aircraft (READY TO FLY!!) - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200 (Clint Bazzill)
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| Subject: | Re: 582 starter not engaging. |
815TL wrote:
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> Hi all,
> I went start up the plane tonight, my instructor was going to take it up
for a flight, and could not get it to start. The volts show good, but is sounds
like the starter is not engaging fully. I turn the key, and the starter
clunks, moves the prop about an inch, then disengages and spins.
>
> Can anyone lead me in the right direction as to what to look for? Could it be
something as simple as lubrication? How and with what should I lubricate it
with? Any other ideas?
>
> I am still new to the Rotax/Kitfox world, so any information anyone could give,
would be appreciated.
>
> Andrew
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8232#208232
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I am going through the same thing right now..mine does not do any
thing..only clicks...BAD starter..engine will have to be pulled to
replace.can turn starter by hand and then engine will start .then have
to turn starter again..and so on..Bad starter.wish you luck...I am going
out and pull my Dam_ engine....Steve Shinabery N554KF KF2 St.Marys Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: My next aircraft (READY TO FLY!!) - Kitfox IV With Cont |
O-200
Francisco Drovetta wrote:
> Hi !!
> My aircraft is done!! ... ready to Fly!
> More photos you can see at: www.dcubj3.com.br (sorry only in portuguese)
> Really Happy!!!
>
>
> Francisco Drovetta
> Kitfox IV "brazilian version" with Cont O-200
> So Paulo, SP, Brazil
> dcubj3@terra.com.br
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WOW<<Nice looking now all together..HAVE FUN with her...and good
luck...Steve Shinabery N554KF KF2 St.Marys Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: 582 starter not engaging. |
Thanks guys. I will get a chance tomorrow to check it out. It clicks then spins,
so I think it is OK, something is just not meshing. I guess I will need to
check it out.
Andrew
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| Subject: | Re: 582 starter not engaging. |
At 05:41 PM 10/10/2008, you wrote:
>With the cowling off, get under the airplane and with a flashlight
>and see if you can see any part of the flywheel. Have a good look
>at it while someone turns the prop slowly. You may be able to see
>what is happening from that angle.
Andrew,
Deke's got good advice as there is an SL or SB on the 582
flywheel, which can fail. You should be able to check it without
pulling the engine. You can also see the starter in action from the
front if you pull the cowl. Watch it while someone hits the starter.
(Don't get your head cut off, though!)
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: My next aircraft (READY TO FLY!!) - Kitfox IV With ContO-200 |
Tks a lot Mr. Steve!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "steve shinabery" <shinco@bright.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: My next aircraft (READY TO FLY!!) - Kitfox IV With
ContO-200
>
> Francisco Drovetta wrote:
>> Hi !!
>> My aircraft is done!! ... ready to Fly!
>> More photos you can see at: www.dcubj3.com.br (sorry only in portuguese)
>> Really Happy!!!
>>
>>
>> Francisco Drovetta
>> Kitfox IV "brazilian version" with Cont O-200
>> So Paulo, SP, Brazil
>> dcubj3@terra.com.br
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> WOW<<Nice looking now all together..HAVE FUN with her...and good
> luck...Steve Shinabery N554KF KF2 St.Marys Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: 582 starter not engaging. |
Just so happens that I am repairing my starter as we speak as I had the same
identical symptoms. I had some very helpful Kitfoxer's explain to me what
is probably happening, and they turned out to be right on the money. This
applies only to the rear mounted starter on the 582.
Take a look at the pilots side stud holding the starter on. This is the one
that always breaks into. The starter will "rock" slightly to the righ and
left seeming loose. Its enough to not allow the starter to engage all the
way.
If this is you issue, dont try to get at the starter from the cabin side,
it is futile..............Got to take the engine out to repair. (good time
to go ahead and do a decarb job on the pistons).
Good luck, and you better hope this is all it is, because this is better
than a problem with flywheel, bad starter , etc.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "steve shinabery" <shinco@bright.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 starter not engaging.
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> 815TL wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I went start up the plane tonight, my instructor was going to take
>> it up for a flight, and could not get it to start. The volts show good,
>> but is sounds like the starter is not engaging fully. I turn the key,
>> and the starter clunks, moves the prop about an inch, then disengages and
>> spins.
>>
>> Can anyone lead me in the right direction as to what to look for? Could
>> it be something as simple as lubrication? How and with what should I
>> lubricate it with? Any other ideas?
>>
>> I am still new to the Rotax/Kitfox world, so any information anyone could
>> give, would be appreciated.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8232#208232
>>
>>
>>
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>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
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> I am going through the same thing right now..mine does not do any
> thing..only clicks...BAD starter..engine will have to be pulled to
> replace.can turn starter by hand and then engine will start .then have to
> turn starter again..and so on..Bad starter.wish you luck...I am going out
> and pull my Dam_ engine....Steve Shinabery N554KF KF2 St.Marys Ohio
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 582 starter not engaging. |
Man, I really hope I don't have to pull the motor on it right now. I wanted to
get some flying time in. Is there any way to reach that bolt, without pulling
it?
Andrew
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8294#208294
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| Subject: | Re: 582 starter not engaging. |
Andrew, don't let pulling the engine slow you down. It's only about a 20
minute job with an overhead hoist or if you have big muskles, you can just
lift it out of there. Once you get it out it should be evident what the
problem is.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 397+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."
- Joseph Joubert
----- Original Message -----
From: "815TL" <lawrenceaw@corning.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:51 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 starter not engaging.
>
> Thanks guys. I will get a chance tomorrow to check it out. It clicks
> then spins, so I think it is OK, something is just not meshing. I guess I
> will need to check it out.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8279#208279
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 582 starter not engaging. |
There are some 10 rubber washers per side and the stud to replace , so I
dont think a surgeon could even pull something off like a repair such as
this. Your going to have to get the engine out. Just visually check and
you can make sure the broken stud is the problem first.
Make sure this is the problem...........................
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "815TL" <lawrenceaw@corning.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 11:17 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 starter not engaging.
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> Man, I really hope I don't have to pull the motor on it right now. I
> wanted to get some flying time in. Is there any way to reach that bolt,
> without pulling it?
>
> Andrew
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8294#208294
>
>
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| Subject: | My next aircraft (READY TO FLY!!) - Kitfox IV With Cont |
O-200
Very nice looking aircraft. Would you give us more information. How much
does it weigh?=2C What did you have to do to get the W & B worked out. Tha
nks Clint
From: dcubj3@terra.com.brTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: Kitfox-List:
My next aircraft (READY TO FLY!!) - Kitfox IV With Cont O-200Date: Fri=2C
10 Oct 2008 22:57:54 -0300
Hi !!
My aircraft is done!! ... ready to Fly!
More photos you can see at: www.dcubj3.com.br (sorry only in portuguese)
Really Happy!!!
Francisco DrovettaKitfox IV "brazilian version" with Cont O-200S=E3o Paulo
=2C SP=2C Brazil
dcubj3@terra.com.br
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