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1. 06:32 AM - Re: Flaperon End Caps (Perkins, Mike)
2. 06:43 AM - Re: Flaperon End Caps (Dee Young)
3. 07:11 AM - Re: Flaperon End Caps (Peter Graichen)
4. 07:36 AM - Re: Flaperon End Caps (Dee Young)
5. 09:22 AM - Google Earths hidden flight simulator (Rexinator)
6. 01:57 PM - Re: Flaperon End Caps (Michael Logan)
7. 03:21 PM - Re: Flaperon End Caps (Noel Loveys)
8. 03:45 PM - Re: Flaperon End Caps (David Jones)
9. 03:47 PM - Re: Flaperon End Caps (Malcolm Brubaker)
10. 05:05 PM - Re: Flaperon End Caps (Lowell Fitt)
11. 07:26 PM - Re: Flaperon End Caps (Noel Loveys)
12. 07:55 PM - Re: Towing a banner? YES (Charles Boccaccio)
13. 11:33 PM - Re: Flaperon End Caps (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperon End Caps |
I used basswood on my flaperon endcaps. It's a little harder and more
durable than balsawood, but still very easy to sand and shape.
- Mike Perkins
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperon End Caps |
I used fur and it worked just also.
Dee Young
Model II
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----- Original Message -----
From: Perkins, Mike<mailto:Michael.Perkins@Rauland.com>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
I used basswood on my flaperon endcaps. It's a little harder and more
durable than balsawood, but still very easy to sand and shape.
- Mike Perkins
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| Subject: | Flaperon End Caps |
Did you dye the fur to match the paint?
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
Sent: Friday, 24 October, 2008 09:43
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
I used fur and it worked just also.
Dee Young
Model II
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----- Original Message -----
From: Perkins, Mike <mailto:Michael.Perkins@Rauland.com>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
I used basswood on my flaperon endcaps. It's a little harder and more
durable than balsawood, but still very easy to sand and shape.
- Mike Perkins
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperon End Caps |
Pete sorry for the poor spelling and missed words. Some have better
educations than others and that short coming shows in my writing skills.
I will try to do better in the future.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
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From: Peter Graichen<mailto:n10pg@neo.rr.com>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 8:10 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
Did you dye the fur to match the paint?
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Of Dee Young
Sent: Friday, 24 October, 2008 09:43
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
I used fur and it worked just also.
Dee Young
Model II
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From: Perkins, Mike<mailto:Michael.Perkins@Rauland.com>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
I used basswood on my flaperon endcaps. It's a little harder and
more durable than balsawood, but still very easy to sand and shape.
- Mike Perkins
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| Subject: | Google Earths hidden flight simulator |
For those of us with higher speed broadband.
http://www.thecoolnews.org/2008/05/07/google-earths-hidden-flight-simulator/
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Rex Hefferan
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| Subject: | Flaperon End Caps |
Thanks Peter and Dee, we got a good laugh out of that one.
Mike
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
Pete sorry for the poor spelling and missed words. Some have better
educations than others and that short coming shows in my writing skills. I
will try to do better in the future.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
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----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Graichen <mailto:n10pg@neo.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 8:10 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
Did you dye the fur to match the paint?
_____
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
Sent: Friday, 24 October, 2008 09:43
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
I used fur and it worked just also.
Dee Young
Model II
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Perkins, Mike <mailto:Michael.Perkins@Rauland.com>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
I used basswood on my flaperon endcaps. It's a little harder and more
durable than balsawood, but still very easy to sand and shape.
- Mike Perkins
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| Subject: | Flaperon End Caps |
I knew the "fur" was a typo but I haven't been able to think of what yow
actually meant.
Noel
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Logan
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
Thanks Peter and Dee, we got a good laugh out of that one.
Mike
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
Pete sorry for the poor spelling and missed words. Some have better
educations than others and that short coming shows in my writing skills. I
will try to do better in the future.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Graichen <mailto:n10pg@neo.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 8:10 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
Did you dye the fur to match the paint?
_____
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
Sent: Friday, 24 October, 2008 09:43
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
I used fur and it worked just also.
Dee Young
Model II
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Perkins, Mike <mailto:Michael.Perkins@Rauland.com>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
I used basswood on my flaperon endcaps. It's a little harder and more
durable than balsawood, but still very easy to sand and shape.
- Mike Perkins
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperon End Caps |
"Douglas Fir"
David
Kitfox, Model III, HKS
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> I knew the "fur" was a typo but I haven't been able to think of what yow
> actually meant.
>
>
> Noel
>
>
> *From:* owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael Logan
> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2008 6:28 PM
> *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
>
>
> Thanks Peter and Dee, we got a good laugh out of that one.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Dee Young
> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2008 10:37 AM
> *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
>
> Pete sorry for the poor spelling and missed words. Some have better
> educations than others and that short coming shows in my writing skills. I
> will try to do better in the future.
>
>
> Dee Young
>
> Model II
>
> N345DY
>
>
> Do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Peter Graichen <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
>
> *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2008 8:10 AM
>
> *Subject:* RE: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
>
>
> Did you dye the fur to match the paint?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Dee Young
> *Sent:* Friday, 24 October, 2008 09:43
> *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
>
> I used fur and it worked just also.
>
>
> Dee Young
>
> Model II
>
>
> Do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Perkins, Mike <Michael.Perkins@Rauland.com>
>
> *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2008 7:29 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
>
>
> I used basswood on my flaperon endcaps. It's a little harder and more
> durable than balsawood, but still very easy to sand and shape.
>
>
> - Mike Perkins
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperon End Caps |
while my mod 2 has fiberglass over foam the gas drains under the wing only
need too leek one time and you run- the risk on needing to replace- the
m
--- On Thu, 10/23/08, Bryan Quinton <bughntr@comcast.net> wrote:
From: Bryan Quinton <bughntr@comcast.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
I need to replace the end seals/caps on-the
flaperons on my model II and was looking for any good ideas for material,
techniques etc. Have seen wood and/or-foam used but was looking for the
best ideas.
-
Thanks
Bryan Q
Model II
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperon End Caps |
Bryan,
Since the list is so lethargic of late, I thought I might offer a long
winded suggestion. If you are comfortable with fiberglass, this is a trick
I learned while working on the neighbor's Lancair IV.
Cover the inside end of the flaperon (for about an inch) with vinyl tape.
This will likely be the hardest part. Electricians tape does fine. Extend
the tape out a bit. you might want to put some tape on the outside edge as
well to protect the outside suface.
Take a couple of pieces of fiberglass cloth of appropriate size and lay them
on a piece of about 2 mil vinyl film about six inches larger than the
fiberglass cloth on all sides. Pour enough epoxy or polyester resin on it
to fully saturate the cloth. Put another piece of vinyl film on top of the
sandwich and with a squeegee or a flat piece of wood, or a roller, squeegee
as much of the resin out of the cloth as possible. Cut around the
fiberglass to get rid of the excess resin. Wearing gloves, remove the top
layer of vinyl and position the cloth over the end of the flaperon. Remove
the other piece of vinyl film and gently press the cloth into the end of the
flaperon to create a rounded concave shape. You may have to cut some of the
excess cloth away to prevent sag, unless you can work with the flaperon
vertically from a ladder or the back stairs. When this cures, press inward
on the edges, breaking the composite from the tape in the flaperon and
remove. When out, trim to the edge impression of the flaperon and you have
the end piece for the opposite flaperon.
Do the same thing on the other flaperon for the end piece for the first
flaperon. This will give a nice rounded end and it will be very light, but
will need some surface finishing with super fill, bondo or resin and
microballoons. Glue the ends in with epoxy.
This technique works also if a clearance bubble is needed, in a cowl for
instance. Just cut the clearance hole and place the fiberglass sandwich
over the hole from the inside and shape by hand. More than two layers would
be needed on the cowl, though. In this case, prep the inside with sandpaper
to remove surface contamination and allow the bubble to bond to the cowl.
The excess is sanded away with a Dremel and a sandpaper drum and faired in
on the outside with micro. For cutting the flaperon end, a Dremel using a
thin diamond disk does the trick very nicely. In the two and a half years
we spent on the Lancair, we used up three Dremels and lots of diamond disks.
Lowell
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From: <Sbennett3@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
Bryan, Try Murle Williams._www.MurleWilliamsAviation.com_
(http://www.MurleWilliamsAviation.com)
In a message dated 10/23/2008 7:09:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bughntr@comcast.net writes:
I need to replace the end seals/caps on the flaperons on my model II and
was
looking for any good ideas for material, techniques etc. Have seen wood
and/or foam used but was looking for the best ideas.
Thanks
Bryan Q
Model II
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| Subject: | Flaperon End Caps |
Thanks and I'll try to spell "you" right the next time.
I guess it comes from living in a country with mostly spruce and birch
trees.
Noel
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Jones
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
"Douglas Fir"
David
Kitfox, Model III, HKS
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca> wrote:
I knew the "fur" was a typo but I haven't been able to think of what yow
actually meant.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Logan
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
Thanks Peter and Dee, we got a good laugh out of that one.
Mike
_____
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
Pete sorry for the poor spelling and missed words. Some have better
educations than others and that short coming shows in my writing skills. I
will try to do better in the future.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
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----- Original Message -----
From: Peter <mailto:n10pg@neo.rr.com> Graichen
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 8:10 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
Did you dye the fur to match the paint?
_____
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
Sent: Friday, 24 October, 2008 09:43
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
I used fur and it worked just also.
Dee Young
Model II
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Perkins, Mike <mailto:Michael.Perkins@Rauland.com>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flaperon End Caps
I used basswood on my flaperon endcaps. It's a little harder and more
durable than balsawood, but still very easy to sand and shape.
- Mike Perkins
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| Subject: | Re: Towing a banner? YES |
I use my Kitfox III regularly to tow banners along the beaches of Puerto Va
llarta, Mexico. I'll post a link so all can see my kitfox performing an aer
ial banner pick up. I have-three banner-hook release mechanisms install
ed on the belly of the airplane so I can pick up and-fly-three seperate
banners with out having to land.
-
Charlie, Kitfox III, serial 889, Puerto Vallarta, Mexico
--- On Thu, 10/23/08, jerry evans <kitfox555@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
From: jerry evans <kitfox555@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Towing a banner?
Has anyone ever towed a banner behind the Kitfox? If so what are the pros a
nd cons in doing this ? Thanks for any input.
Jerry Evans
KitfoxII
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperon End Caps |
On Fri, October 24, 2008 6:43 am, Dee Young wrote:
> I used fur and it worked just also.
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> Dee Young
> Model II
You've got to be kidding! Fur? I just can't quite visualize that.
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