---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/05/08: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:19 AM - List Fund Raiser (Matt Dralle) 1. 01:14 AM - Re: 363KF down / Thanks for the last 7 years (akflyer) 2. 05:16 AM - Re: Kudos to Lightspeed (W Duke) 3. 05:26 AM - Re: Tail wheel Instruction (W Duke) 4. 08:17 AM - Vixen Info (George Wells) 5. 08:22 AM - KF 2 wing damage () 6. 08:34 AM - gear for Mod. II (charles cook) 7. 08:55 AM - Re: gear for Mod. II (Marwynne Kuhn) 8. 09:40 AM - Stratus Subaru Engine (Trey Moran) 9. 10:31 AM - Re: KF 2 wing damage (Pete Christensen) 10. 11:16 AM - Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE (Don & Betty Stevenson) 11. 11:24 AM - Re: UNBELIEVEABLE (akflyer) 12. 12:53 PM - Re: KF 2 wing damage (Guy Buchanan) 13. 12:53 PM - Re: gear for Mod. II (Guy Buchanan) 14. 12:55 PM - Re: UNBELIEVEABLE (Michel Verheughe) 15. 01:31 PM - Re: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE (Dave G) 16. 01:43 PM - Re: KF 2 wing damage (Joe Bruman) 17. 06:03 PM - Re: Stratus Subaru Engine (kirk hull) 18. 06:14 PM - Re: Vixen Info (Tom Jones) 19. 07:48 PM - Re: UNBELIEVEABLE (JetPilot) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:19:50 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Kitfox-List: List Fund Raiser A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will instantly cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple. Don't you wish PBS worked that way! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. 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If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:44 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 363KF down / Thanks for the last 7 years From: "akflyer" rebuild it. I just finished putting the last oinked tape on the wing of my re-build. same thing happened to the guy I bought the wreck from. hard landing, gear folded, he went on his back. He did some major damage but it will fly again this weekend after alot of work (more than if I had just built a kit). Will it be worth it... every dime and every hour I have spent on it. Last year, we had the same thing happen on my brothers kitfox. Bounced it good, gear folded, we went over on its back. Got the gear, prop, wing tips and cowling. A little glass work, a patch here and there, new prop and it was flying 2 weeks later (had to wait on the new gear from Avid). Don't give up, now is a good time to do any mods you thought of after it was built the first time. I would recommend the Avid Wide gear, or the new "Cub" style gear as the stock KF gear is prone to breaking. I know 4 locally that have balled it up do to a gear failure on landings that were not really that bad. I have beat the crap out of the Avid wide gear with no issues so far! -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid "C" / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212456#212456 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:33 AM PST US From: W Duke Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kudos to Lightspeed I have 2 sets of 30 3Gs and have been impressed with the service.- Not ju st impressed but very impressed.- 1.- head band cracked.- (Might be-a little weak construction but no p roblem again in 3 years with being a little more careful.)- RESOLUTION- s ent in and repaired at no charge. 2.- not enough passive reduction with doors open RESOLUTION- they sent me a set of super thick foam seals at no charge. 3.- When sent in for above they replaced switch box with updated-at no charge. - It has been a couple of years since I had to use their service.- I hope i t has not changed as some of the other emails imply. Maxwell Duke S6/TD/IO240 Dublin, GA --- On Wed, 10/29/08, jeff puls wrote: From: jeff puls Subject: Kitfox-List: Kudos to Lightspeed Went to the airport to fly my Fox. I have 2 Lightspeed 20XL noise canceling headsets. They are about-five years old. I went to put one of my-heads ets on and it came apart-in my hand (Adjustment band broke). I contacted the factory and sent them my headset. It cost me $17.00 to ship it with $40 0 insurance. This happened on Thursday. Got my headset back in four days li ke brand new. They repaired it and did a diagnostic. They shipped it UPS Or ange. What service!!! Out $17.00, what a deal. Lightspeed in my opinion is a pretty good company, Jeff KTZR Classic IV =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:59 AM PST US From: W Duke Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tail wheel Instruction Legally, I don't think you have to have an endorsement for an experimental. --- That being said do not fly it without one or the equivalent exper ience to get one.- Tail wheel experience is a must.- Ideally, experienc e in a Kitfox but probably if you can get some in a cub champ etc. it will be OK.- One tip I read on- a Maule list (off center seating like the Ki tfox) is to put a piece of tape on the cowl and panel to highlight when tru ly aligned with the runway.- I haven't tried it yet but it sounds good. Maxwell Duke S6/TD/IO240 Dublin, GA --- On Sat, 11/1/08, pilot77777@hotmail.com wrote: From: pilot77777@hotmail.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Tail wheel Instruction Hi, - I bought a Kitfox a little over a month ago and I need the tail wheel endor sement be for I can fly it. Does anyone know of an instructor near the West ern New York area that has kitfox time or would come and instruct in my pla ne? Is there an instructor some where that I can go too that has a kitfox? - Thanks, Loel - =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:17:20 AM PST US From: "George Wells" Subject: Kitfox-List: Vixen Info I am looking a possibility purchasing 2 different KF Vikings. Based on the Part/Serial # can anyone tell me the approximate dates the kits were made? One of them I think laid around quite a while before completion. I feel the later one probably has the latest improvements that may have been made to the kit like the beefed up nose gear etc. The numbers are : V9412-0023 V9610-0023 Thanks, George ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:47 AM PST US From: Subject: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage Hello, I'm looking for help finding the original 2.5" L.E. spar tube with extruded sheer web for my damaged left wing. There is a dent aprx. 4" long not quite out to the strut attach fitting. I'm curious to see if it can't be repaired. Any & all ideas will be appreciated. Thanks, John S. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:28 AM PST US From: charles cook Subject: Kitfox-List: gear for Mod. II Thanks to all who have encouraged me to get "back in the saddle". Okay now I need to weigh options.- Does anybody have landing gear that would fit m y Model II they are willing to sell? I have read of some plans to build a taller, wider-but cannot find in the archives. Charles Cook N363KF -582 ATL=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:55 AM PST US From: "Marwynne Kuhn" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: gear for Mod. II If a model iv will fit, I know a man that has a pair. Marwynne ----- Original Message ----- From: charles cook To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:33 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: gear for Mod. II Thanks to all who have encouraged me to get "back in the saddle". Okay now I need to weigh options. Does anybody have landing gear that would fit my Model II they are willing to sell? I have read of some plans to build a taller, wider but cannot find in the archives. Charles Cook N363KF 582 ATL 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:42 AM PST US From: "Trey Moran" Subject: Kitfox-List: Stratus Subaru Engine Does anyone have specifics on how to hook up the dual bing carbs on the Stratus Subaru engine to a single cable throttle, including cable part numbers etc. Trey Moran KF 5 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:32 AM PST US From: "Pete Christensen" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage Have you tried Kitfox? Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: redline4100@att.net To: Kitfox-List@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:21 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage Hello, I'm looking for help finding the original 2.5" L.E. spar tube with extruded sheer web for my damaged left wing. There is a dent aprx. 4" long not quite out to the strut attach fitting. I'm curious to see if it can't be repaired. Any & all ideas will be appreciated. Thanks, John S. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:16:41 AM PST US From: Don & Betty Stevenson Subject: Kitfox-List: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE Anyone think this is for real or is it a spoof?? --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Bruce McGivern wrote: Subject: Fw: UNBELIEVEA #yiv1995822602 v\:* { } #yiv1995822602 v\:* { } - - -------Original Message-------Subject: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE - Is this possible ??? Truly amazing !!!! - - - - - ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:24:11 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: UNBELIEVEABLE From: "akflyer" That was Bill Hemple flying a 50% model. That is part of his new "airshow" routine. He originally had it happened accidentaly with a 50% Edge 540, was able to land it with one wing, then he decided it was cool enough to develope a system to so he could jettison the wing at will. So it is not the real plane pulling that one off, but a real big model. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid "C" / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212527#212527 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:53:13 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage At 08:21 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote: >There is a dent aprx. 4" long not quite out to the strut attach >fitting. I'm curious to see if it can't be repaired. John, I'm guessing it's deep enough that you don't want to just live with it. If it's deep it can't be repaired, since you'll cause even more damage to the metal pulling it out. One thing you could do that would be easier than a new spar, although uglier, would be to glue and screw an aluminum patch over it. A lot depends on where it is relative to the strut bracket and ribs. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:53:13 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: gear for Mod. II At 08:33 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote: >I have read of some plans to build a taller, wider but cannot find >in the archives. Charles, There are no plans for the off-road gear. Lowell Fitt at Highwing LLC and John McBean at Kitfox LLC are marketing them complete. You could, however, do as my original builder did and rebuild the your landing gear with larger tubes and more reinforcement. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:55:49 PM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: UNBELIEVEABLE > From: Don & Betty Stevenson [shericom@rogers.com] > Anyone think this is for real or is it a spoof?? Very nice but ... a fake. Anyway, it would be better if you sent e.g. a link from YouTube, instead of sending the file itself. Not all of us has ADSL connection. Incidentally, on YouTube, you can see the faking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72y_qFV2oc Cheers, Michel Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 ... grounded Do not archive


________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:31:25 PM PST US From: "Dave G" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE All computer generated. Here is a link to explain. It's part of an advertising campaign. http://www.reggiepaulk.com/2008/10/killathrill-generates-huge-buzz-with.h tml do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Don & Betty Stevenson To: Kitfox List Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:10 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE Anyone think this is for real or is it a spoof?? --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Bruce McGivern wrote: Subject: Fw: UNBELIEVEA -------Original Message------- Subject: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE Is this possible ??? Truly amazing !!!! ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:43:32 PM PST US From: Joe Bruman Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage Guy, We've considered the patch idea & think that may work. Pops is an A&P & we've built a couple kitfoxs now. I would like to find some 2.5" tube for patch material & see if anyone has ribs. Again thanks for the input. John S. --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Guy Buchanan wrote: From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage At 08:21 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote: >There is a dent aprx. 4" long not quite out to the strut attach >fitting. I'm curious to see if it can't be repaired. John, I'm guessing it's deep enough that you don't want to just live with it. If it's deep it can't be repaired, since you'll cause even more damage to the metal pulling it out. One thing you could do that would be easier than a new spar, although uglier, would be to glue and screw an aluminum patch over it. A lot depends on where it is relative to the strut bracket and ribs. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:03:03 PM PST US From: "kirk hull" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stratus Subaru Engine I made a leaver that goes from 1 to 2 cables I will try to take a picture when I get out to the airport _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Trey Moran Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:39 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Stratus Subaru Engine Does anyone have specifics on how to hook up the dual bing carbs on the Stratus Subaru engine to a single cable throttle, including cable part numbers etc. Trey Moran KF 5 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:14:11 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Vixen Info From: "Tom Jones" [quote="oscardog"]I am looking a possibility purchasing 2 different KF Vikings. Based on the Part/Serial # can anyone tell me the approximate dates the kits were made? One of them I think laid around quite a while before completion. I feel the later one probably has the latest improvements that may have been made to the kit like the beefed up nose gear etc. The numbers are : V9412-0023 V9610-0023 Thanks, George > [b] George, My Classic 4 kit came out of the factory in August of 1994. The serial number is C9408-00XX. So, those two vixens may be almost twins. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212607#212607 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:22 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: UNBELIEVEABLE From: "JetPilot" I can not say if the video is ALL computer generated or not, the last part is fake, but I think the actual landing is a real RC plane, not computer. Large RC aerobatic planes have MOST DEFINITELY been landed after a wing has separated as you see in the video. If you ever saw a master RC pilot flying a state of the art aerobatics plane, doing the landing you see in the video would be easy compared to some of the other things I have seen them do. Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! 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