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0. 11:22 PM - Reminder (Matt Dralle)
1. 06:25 AM - Re: KF 2 wing damage (Noel Loveys)
2. 07:52 AM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 11/05/08 (Ed Gray)
3. 10:48 AM - Re: UNBELIEVEABLE (akflyer)
4. 03:17 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 11/05/08 (Larry Huntley)
5. 03:18 PM - Re: Stratus Subaru Engine (kirk hull)
6. 05:39 PM - Re: Re: UNBELIEVEABLE (KITFOXZ@aol.com)
7. 07:08 PM - (patrick reilly)
8. 08:18 PM - Re: (Noel Loveys)
9. 11:50 PM - Re: No Title (akflyer)
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Subject: | KF 2 wing damage |
You're doing the right thing by looking for a new spar. Why not try John Mc
Bean?
Spar repairs are always suspect. With this type of spar The only repair
that I can see working is an outside sleeve. Trying to find the right size
ID sleeve may be fun and it will add a bit of weight to your plane.
Noel
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redline4100@att.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:51 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage
Hello, I'm looking for help finding the original 2.5" L.E. spar tube with
extruded sheer web for my damaged left wing. There is a dent aprx. 4" long
not quite out to the strut attach fitting. I'm curious to see if it can't be
repaired. Any & all ideas will be appreciated. Thanks, John S.
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Subject: | RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 11/05/08 |
I'm now covering my KF2 and thinking about reinforcing the original gear
legs before covering them. Are there any places where a fillet or web can
be welded in to avoid failures? Also what are costs and possible
replacements for the original Denny design. My kit is No. 705 produced in
1990. Do not archive.
Ed Gray-Dallas KF2-582 building
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0. 12:19 AM - List Fund Raiser (Matt Dralle)
1. 01:14 AM - Re: 363KF down / Thanks for the last 7 years (akflyer)
2. 05:16 AM - Re: Kudos to Lightspeed (W Duke)
3. 05:26 AM - Re: Tail wheel Instruction (W Duke)
4. 08:17 AM - Vixen Info (George Wells)
5. 08:22 AM - KF 2 wing damage ()
6. 08:34 AM - gear for Mod. II (charles cook)
7. 08:55 AM - Re: gear for Mod. II (Marwynne Kuhn)
8. 09:40 AM - Stratus Subaru Engine (Trey Moran)
9. 10:31 AM - Re: KF 2 wing damage (Pete Christensen)
10. 11:16 AM - Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE (Don & Betty Stevenson)
11. 11:24 AM - Re: UNBELIEVEABLE (akflyer)
12. 12:53 PM - Re: KF 2 wing damage (Guy Buchanan)
13. 12:53 PM - Re: gear for Mod. II (Guy Buchanan)
14. 12:55 PM - Re: UNBELIEVEABLE (Michel Verheughe)
15. 01:31 PM - Re: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE (Dave G)
16. 01:43 PM - Re: KF 2 wing damage (Joe Bruman)
17. 06:03 PM - Re: Stratus Subaru Engine (kirk hull)
18. 06:14 PM - Re: Vixen Info (Tom Jones)
19. 07:48 PM - Re: UNBELIEVEABLE (JetPilot)
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Time: 01:14:44 AM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 363KF down / Thanks for the last 7 years
From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
rebuild it. I just finished putting the last oinked tape on the wing of my
re-build.
same thing happened to the guy I bought the wreck from. hard landing,
gear folded, he went on his back. He did some major damage but it will fly
again
this weekend after alot of work (more than if I had just built a kit). Will
it be worth it... every dime and every hour I have spent on it.
Last year, we had the same thing happen on my brothers kitfox. Bounced it
good,
gear folded, we went over on its back. Got the gear, prop, wing tips and
cowling.
A little glass work, a patch here and there, new prop and it was flying
2 weeks later (had to wait on the new gear from Avid).
Don't give up, now is a good time to do any mods you thought of after it was
built
the first time. I would recommend the Avid Wide gear, or the new "Cub"
style
gear as the stock KF gear is prone to breaking. I know 4 locally that have
balled it up do to a gear failure on landings that were not really that bad.
I have beat the crap out of the Avid wide gear with no issues so far!
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212456#212456
________________________________ Message 2
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Time: 05:16:33 AM PST US
From: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kudos to Lightspeed
I have 2 sets of 30 3Gs and have been impressed with the service.- Not ju
st impressed but very impressed.-
1.- head band cracked.- (Might be-a little weak construction but no p
roblem again in 3 years with being a little more careful.)- RESOLUTION- s
ent in and repaired at no charge.
2.- not enough passive reduction with doors open RESOLUTION- they sent me
a set of super thick foam seals at no charge.
3.- When sent in for above they replaced switch box with updated-at no
charge.
-
It has been a couple of years since I had to use their service.- I hope i
t has not changed as some of the other emails imply.
Maxwell Duke
S6/TD/IO240
Dublin, GA
--- On Wed, 10/29/08, jeff puls <pulsair@mindspring.com> wrote:
From: jeff puls <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kudos to Lightspeed
Went to the airport to fly my Fox. I have 2 Lightspeed 20XL noise canceling
headsets. They are about-five years old. I went to put one of my-heads
ets on and it came apart-in my hand (Adjustment band broke). I contacted
the factory and sent them my headset. It cost me $17.00 to ship it with $40
0 insurance. This happened on Thursday. Got my headset back in four days li
ke brand new. They repaired it and did a diagnostic. They shipped it UPS Or
ange. What service!!! Out $17.00, what a deal. Lightspeed in my opinion is
a pretty good company, Jeff KTZR Classic IV
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________________________________ Message 3
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Time: 05:26:59 AM PST US
From: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tail wheel Instruction
Legally, I don't think you have to have an endorsement for an experimental.
--- That being said do not fly it without one or the equivalent exper
ience to get one.- Tail wheel experience is a must.- Ideally, experienc
e in a Kitfox but probably if you can get some in a cub champ etc. it will
be OK.- One tip I read on- a Maule list (off center seating like the Ki
tfox) is to put a piece of tape on the cowl and panel to highlight when tru
ly aligned with the runway.- I haven't tried it yet but it sounds good.
Maxwell Duke
S6/TD/IO240
Dublin, GA
--- On Sat, 11/1/08, pilot77777@hotmail.com <pilot77777@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: pilot77777@hotmail.com <pilot77777@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tail wheel Instruction
Hi,
-
I bought a Kitfox a little over a month ago and I need the tail wheel endor
sement be for I can fly it. Does anyone know of an instructor near the West
ern New York area that has kitfox time or would come and instruct in my pla
ne? Is there an instructor some where that I can go too that has a kitfox?
-
Thanks, Loel
-
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________________________________ Message 4
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Time: 08:17:20 AM PST US
From: "George Wells" <georgewells@roadrunner.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Vixen Info
I am looking a possibility purchasing 2 different KF Vikings. Based on
the Part/Serial # can anyone tell me the approximate dates the kits were
made? One of them I think laid around quite a while before completion. I
feel the later one probably has the latest improvements that may have
been made to the kit like the beefed up nose gear etc.
The numbers are :
V9412-0023
V9610-0023
Thanks,
George
________________________________ Message 5
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Time: 08:22:47 AM PST US
From: <redline4100@att.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage
Hello, I'm looking for help finding the original 2.5" L.E. spar tube
with extruded sheer web for my damaged left wing. There is a dent aprx.
4" long not quite out to the strut attach fitting. I'm curious to see if
it can't be repaired. Any & all ideas will be appreciated. Thanks,
John S.
________________________________ Message 6
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Time: 08:34:28 AM PST US
From: charles cook <cookflys@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: gear for Mod. II
Thanks to all who have encouraged me to get "back in the saddle". Okay now
I need to weigh options.- Does anybody have landing gear that would fit m
y Model II they are willing to sell?
I have read of some plans to build a taller, wider-but cannot find in the
archives.
Charles Cook
N363KF -582
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________________________________ Message 7
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Time: 08:55:55 AM PST US
From: "Marwynne Kuhn" <marwynne@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: gear for Mod. II
If a model iv will fit, I know a man that has a pair.
Marwynne
----- Original Message -----
From: charles cook
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:33 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: gear for Mod. II
Thanks to all who have encouraged me to get "back in the
saddle". Okay now I need to weigh options. Does anybody have landing
gear that would fit my Model II they are willing to sell?
I have read of some plans to build a taller, wider but cannot
find in the archives.
Charles Cook
N363KF 582
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________________________________ Message 8
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Time: 09:40:42 AM PST US
From: "Trey Moran" <nail13zg@centurytel.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Stratus Subaru Engine
Does anyone have specifics on how to hook up the dual bing carbs on the
Stratus Subaru engine to a single cable throttle, including cable part
numbers etc.
Trey Moran
KF 5
________________________________ Message 9
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Time: 10:31:32 AM PST US
From: "Pete Christensen" <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage
Have you tried Kitfox?
Pete
----- Original Message -----
From: redline4100@att.net
To: Kitfox-List@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:21 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage
Hello, I'm looking for help finding the original 2.5" L.E. spar
tube with extruded sheer web for my damaged left wing. There is a dent
aprx. 4" long not quite out to the strut attach fitting. I'm curious to
see if it can't be repaired. Any & all ideas will be appreciated.
Thanks, John S.
________________________________ Message 10
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Time: 11:16:41 AM PST US
From: Don & Betty Stevenson <shericom@rogers.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE
Anyone think this is for real or is it a spoof??
--- On Tue, 11/4/08, Bruce McGivern <bgmcgivern@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Subject: Fw: UNBELIEVEA
#yiv1995822602 v\:* {
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-------Original Message-------Subject: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE
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Is this possible ??? Truly amazing !!!!
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________________________________ Message 11
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Time: 11:24:11 AM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: UNBELIEVEABLE
From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
That was Bill Hemple flying a 50% model. That is part of his new "airshow"
routine.
He originally had it happened accidentaly with a 50% Edge 540, was able
to land it with one wing, then he decided it was cool enough to develope a
system
to so he could jettison the wing at will.
So it is not the real plane pulling that one off, but a real big model.
--------
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212527#212527
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Time: 12:53:13 PM PST US
From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage
At 08:21 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote:
>There is a dent aprx. 4" long not quite out to the strut attach
>fitting. I'm curious to see if it can't be repaired.
John,
I'm guessing it's deep enough that you don't want to just
live with it. If it's deep it can't be repaired, since you'll cause
even more damage to the metal pulling it out. One thing you could do
that would be easier than a new spar, although uglier, would be to
glue and screw an aluminum patch over it. A lot depends on where it
is relative to the strut bracket and ribs.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
________________________________ Message 13
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Time: 12:53:13 PM PST US
From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: gear for Mod. II
At 08:33 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote:
>I have read of some plans to build a taller, wider but cannot find
>in the archives.
Charles,
There are no plans for the off-road gear. Lowell Fitt at
Highwing LLC and John McBean at Kitfox LLC are marketing them
complete. You could, however, do as my original builder did and
rebuild the your landing gear with larger tubes and more reinforcement.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
________________________________ Message 14
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Time: 12:55:49 PM PST US
From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: UNBELIEVEABLE
> From: Don & Betty Stevenson [shericom@rogers.com]
> Anyone think this is for real or is it a spoof??
Very nice but ... a fake. Anyway, it would be better if you sent e.g. a link
from
YouTube, instead of sending the file itself. Not all of us has ADSL
connection.
Incidentally, on YouTube, you can see the faking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72y_qFV2oc
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 ... grounded
Do not archive
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Time: 01:31:25 PM PST US
From: "Dave G" <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE
All computer generated. Here is a link to explain. It's part of an
advertising campaign.
http://www.reggiepaulk.com/2008/10/killathrill-generates-huge-buzz-with.h
tml
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Don & Betty Stevenson
To: Kitfox List
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:10 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE
Anyone think this is for real or is it a spoof??
--- On Tue, 11/4/08, Bruce McGivern <bgmcgivern@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
Subject: Fw: UNBELIEVEA
-------Original Message-------
Subject: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE
Is this possible ??? Truly amazing !!!!
________________________________ Message 16
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Time: 01:43:32 PM PST US
From: Joe Bruman <redline4100@att.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage
Guy, We've considered the patch idea & think that may work. Pops is an A&P &
we've
built a couple kitfoxs now. I would like to find some 2.5" tube for patch
material & see if anyone has ribs. Again thanks for the input. John S.
--- On Wed, 11/5/08, Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> wrote:
From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage
At 08:21 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote:
>There is a dent aprx. 4" long not quite out to the strut attach
>fitting. I'm curious to see if it can't be repaired.
John,
I'm guessing it's deep enough that you don't want to just
live with it. If it's deep it can't be repaired, since you'll cause
even more damage to the metal pulling it out. One thing you could do
that would be easier than a new spar, although uglier, would be to
glue and screw an aluminum patch over it. A lot depends on where it
is relative to the strut bracket and ribs.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
________________________________ Message 17
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Time: 06:03:03 PM PST US
From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stratus Subaru Engine
I made a leaver that goes from 1 to 2 cables
I will try to take a picture when I get out to the airport
_____
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Trey Moran
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Stratus Subaru Engine
Does anyone have specifics on how to hook up the dual bing carbs on the
Stratus Subaru engine to a single cable throttle, including cable part
numbers etc.
Trey Moran
KF 5
________________________________ Message 18
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Time: 06:14:11 PM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Vixen Info
From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
[quote="oscardog"]I am looking a possibility purchasing 2 different KF
Vikings.
Based on the Part/Serial # can anyone tell me the approximate dates the
kits
were made? One of them I think laid around quite a while before completion.
I feel the later one probably has the latest improvements that may have
been
made to the kit like the beefed up nose gear etc.
The numbers are :
V9412-0023
V9610-0023
Thanks,
George
> [b]
George, My Classic 4 kit came out of the factory in August of 1994. The
serial
number is C9408-00XX. So, those two vixens may be almost twins.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212607#212607
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Time: 07:48:22 PM PST US
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: UNBELIEVEABLE
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
I can not say if the video is ALL computer generated or not, the last part
is fake,
but I think the actual landing is a real RC plane, not computer. Large
RC aerobatic planes have MOST DEFINITELY been landed after a wing has
separated
as you see in the video. If you ever saw a master RC pilot flying a state
of the art aerobatics plane, doing the landing you see in the video would be
easy
compared to some of the other things I have seen them do.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you
could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212626#212626
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Subject: | Re: UNBELIEVEABLE |
JetPilot wrote:
> I can not say if the video is ALL computer generated or not, the last part is
fake, but I think the actual landing is a real RC plane, not computer. Large
RC aerobatic planes have MOST DEFINITELY been landed after a wing has separated
as you see in the video. If you ever saw a master RC pilot flying a state
of the art aerobatics plane, doing the landing you see in the video would be
easy compared to some of the other things I have seen them do.
>
> Mike
It was Bill Hemple doing the flying with his model... He has done it many times.
He is the pilot that did the flying for the movie Aviator with the H racer.
We do stuff with our models that would blow your mind, and landing with one wing
is not really that hard given the huge control surfaces and 80 deg throws we
use for 3D flying. Just roll knife edge and hold till your on the deck then
roll level just like the vid shows.
--------
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212717#212717
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Subject: | Stratus Subaru Engine |
I made it out to the airport and took some pictures of the throttle set up.
To avoid sending a bunch of large files to the list I just posted them on my
eaa website. The address is
http://roosterville612.org/sitefiles/projects/project8.htm also check
out the rest of the Kitfox pictures on the member projects page.
Kirk hull
205AK
Kitfox Classic IV
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Subject: | Re: UNBELIEVEABLE |
This one is real:
_http://www.metacafe.com/watch/326057/israeli_pilot_land_saftly_with_one_wing/
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(http://www.metacafe.com/watch/326057/israeli_pilot_land_saftly_with_one_wing/)
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582 Drivers=2C I am rebuilding a Mod 3 that was originally equiped with a 9
12 that I am installing a 582 in. the plane has strobes=2C nav lights and a
radio. I fear that my lighting coil will not put out enough power to handl
e all those electrics. I remember seeing a set up for an auxillary alternat
or belt drive off of the prop hub.=2C maybe from CPS=2C I don't know. I rem
ember that it seemed to cost 3 X what I thought it should. Anyone out there
have experience with one or have designed one yourself.
do not archive
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford=2CIL
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Newer Strobes ~ 1A
Nav lights ~ 1A if that much
Radio ~ 500 ma receive / up to 5A Tx. You should have plenty of power!
Noel
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582 Drivers, I am rebuilding a Mod 3 that was originally equiped with a 912
that I am installing a 582 in. the plane has strobes, nav lights and a
radio. I fear that my lighting coil will not put out enough power to handle
all those electrics. I remember seeing a set up for an auxillary alternator
belt drive off of the prop hub., maybe from CPS, I don't know. I remember
that it seemed to cost 3 X what I thought it should. Anyone out there have
experience with one or have designed one yourself.
do not archive
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
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My brothers 582 is pulling nav lights, radios, GPS, 3 strobes, heater and intercom
with no issues. The wattage does not add up to that much. You can pull 170
watts with the 582 lighting coil.
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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