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     0. 11:22 PM - Reminder (Matt Dralle)
     1. 06:25 AM - Re: KF 2 wing damage (Noel Loveys)
     2. 07:52 AM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 11/05/08 (Ed Gray)
     3. 10:48 AM - Re: UNBELIEVEABLE (akflyer)
     4. 03:17 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 11/05/08 (Larry Huntley)
     5. 03:18 PM - Re: Stratus Subaru Engine (kirk hull)
     6. 05:39 PM - Re: Re: UNBELIEVEABLE (KITFOXZ@aol.com)
     7. 07:08 PM -  (patrick reilly)
     8. 08:18 PM - Re:  (Noel Loveys)
     9. 11:50 PM - Re: No Title (akflyer)
 
 
 
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      You're doing the right thing by looking for a new spar.  Why not try John Mc
      Bean?
      
      
      Spar repairs are always suspect.  With this type of spar The only repair
      that I can see working is  an outside sleeve.  Trying to find the right size
      ID sleeve may be fun and it will add a bit of weight to your plane.
      
      
      Noel
      
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      redline4100@att.net
      Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:51 PM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage
      
      
      Hello,    I'm looking for help finding the original 2.5" L.E. spar tube with
      extruded sheer web for my damaged left wing. There is a dent aprx. 4" long
      not quite out to the strut attach fitting. I'm curious to see if it can't be
      repaired. Any & all ideas will be appreciated.   Thanks, John S.
      
      
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      I'm now covering my KF2 and thinking about reinforcing the original gear
      legs before covering them.  Are there any places where a fillet or web can
      be welded in to avoid failures?  Also what are costs and possible
      replacements for the original Denny design.  My kit is No. 705 produced in
      1990. Do not archive. 
      Ed Gray-Dallas KF2-582 building
      
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           0. 12:19 AM - List Fund Raiser   (Matt Dralle)
           1. 01:14 AM - Re: 363KF down / Thanks for the last 7 years  (akflyer)
           2. 05:16 AM - Re: Kudos to Lightspeed  (W Duke)
           3. 05:26 AM - Re: Tail wheel Instruction  (W Duke)
           4. 08:17 AM - Vixen Info  (George Wells)
           5. 08:22 AM - KF 2 wing damage  ()
           6. 08:34 AM - gear for Mod. II   (charles cook)
           7. 08:55 AM - Re: gear for Mod. II  (Marwynne Kuhn)
           8. 09:40 AM - Stratus Subaru Engine  (Trey Moran)
           9. 10:31 AM - Re: KF 2 wing damage  (Pete Christensen)
          10. 11:16 AM - Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE  (Don & Betty Stevenson)
          11. 11:24 AM - Re: UNBELIEVEABLE  (akflyer)
          12. 12:53 PM - Re: KF 2 wing damage  (Guy Buchanan)
          13. 12:53 PM - Re: gear for Mod. II   (Guy Buchanan)
          14. 12:55 PM - Re: UNBELIEVEABLE  (Michel Verheughe)
          15. 01:31 PM - Re: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE  (Dave G)
          16. 01:43 PM - Re: KF 2 wing damage  (Joe Bruman)
          17. 06:03 PM - Re: Stratus Subaru Engine  (kirk hull)
          18. 06:14 PM - Re: Vixen Info  (Tom Jones)
          19. 07:48 PM - Re: UNBELIEVEABLE  (JetPilot)
      
      
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      ________________________________  Message 1
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      Time: 01:14:44 AM PST US
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 363KF down / Thanks for the last 7 years
      From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
      
      
      rebuild it.  I just finished putting the last oinked tape on the wing of my
      re-build.
      same thing happened to the guy I bought the wreck from.  hard landing,
      gear folded, he went on his back.  He did some major damage but it will fly
      again
      this weekend after alot of work (more than if I had just built a kit).  Will
      it be worth it... every dime and every hour I have spent on it.
      
      Last year, we had the same thing happen on my brothers kitfox.  Bounced it
      good,
      gear folded, we went over on its back.  Got the gear, prop, wing tips and
      cowling.
      A little glass work, a patch here and there, new prop and it was flying
      2 weeks later (had to wait on the new gear from Avid).
      
      Don't give up, now is a good time to do any mods you thought of after it was
      built
      the first time.  I would recommend the Avid Wide gear, or the new "Cub"
      style
      gear as the stock KF gear is prone to breaking.  I know 4 locally that have
      balled it up do to a gear failure on landings that were not really that bad.
      I have beat the crap out of the Avid wide gear with no issues so far!
      
      --------
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      Leonard Perry
      Soldotna AK
      Avid "C" / Mk IV 
      582 IVO IFA
      Full Lotus 1260
      95% complete
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212456#212456
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 2
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      Time: 05:16:33 AM PST US
      From: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kudos to Lightspeed
      
      I have 2 sets of 30 3Gs and have been impressed with the service.- Not ju
      st impressed but very impressed.- 
      1.- head band cracked.- (Might be-a little weak construction but no p
      roblem again in 3 years with being a little more careful.)- RESOLUTION- s
      ent in and repaired at no charge.
      2.- not enough passive reduction with doors open RESOLUTION- they sent me
       a set of super thick foam seals at no charge.
      3.- When sent in for above they replaced switch box with updated-at no 
      charge.
      -
      It has been a couple of years since I had to use their service.- I hope i
      t has not changed as some of the other emails imply.
      
      Maxwell Duke
      S6/TD/IO240
      Dublin, GA
      
      --- On Wed, 10/29/08, jeff puls <pulsair@mindspring.com> wrote:
      
      From: jeff puls <pulsair@mindspring.com>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Kudos to Lightspeed
      
      
      Went to the airport to fly my Fox. I have 2 Lightspeed 20XL noise canceling
       headsets. They are about-five years old. I went to put one of my-heads
      ets on and it came apart-in my hand (Adjustment band broke). I contacted 
      the factory and sent them my headset. It cost me $17.00 to ship it with $40
      0 insurance. This happened on Thursday. Got my headset back in four days li
      ke brand new. They repaired it and did a diagnostic. They shipped it UPS Or
      ange. What service!!! Out $17.00, what a deal. Lightspeed in my opinion is 
      a pretty good company, Jeff KTZR Classic IV
      
      
      =0A=0A=0A      
      
      ________________________________  Message 3
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      Time: 05:26:59 AM PST US
      From: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tail wheel Instruction
      
      Legally, I don't think you have to have an endorsement for an experimental.
      --- That being said do not fly it without one or the equivalent exper
      ience to get one.- Tail wheel experience is a must.- Ideally, experienc
      e in a Kitfox but probably if you can get some in a cub champ etc. it will 
      be OK.- One tip I read on- a Maule list (off center seating like the Ki
      tfox) is to put a piece of tape on the cowl and panel to highlight when tru
      ly aligned with the runway.- I haven't tried it yet but it sounds good.
      
      Maxwell Duke
      S6/TD/IO240
      Dublin, GA
      
      --- On Sat, 11/1/08, pilot77777@hotmail.com <pilot77777@hotmail.com> wrote:
      
      From: pilot77777@hotmail.com <pilot77777@hotmail.com>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Tail wheel Instruction
      
      
      Hi,
      -
      I bought a Kitfox a little over a month ago and I need the tail wheel endor
      sement be for I can fly it. Does anyone know of an instructor near the West
      ern New York area that has kitfox time or would come and instruct in my pla
      ne? Is there an instructor some where that I can go too that has a kitfox?
      -
      Thanks, Loel
      -
      
      =0A=0A=0A      
      
      ________________________________  Message 4
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      Time: 08:17:20 AM PST US
      From: "George Wells" <georgewells@roadrunner.com>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Vixen Info
      
      I am looking a possibility purchasing 2 different KF Vikings. Based on 
      the Part/Serial # can anyone tell me the approximate dates the kits were 
      made? One of them I think laid around quite a while before completion. I 
      feel the later one probably has the latest improvements that may have 
      been made to the kit like the beefed up nose gear etc.
      The numbers are :
      V9412-0023
      V9610-0023
      
      Thanks,
      George
      
      ________________________________  Message 5
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 08:22:47 AM PST US
      From: <redline4100@att.net>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage
      
      Hello,    I'm looking for help finding the original 2.5" L.E. spar tube 
      with extruded sheer web for my damaged left wing. There is a dent aprx. 
      4" long not quite out to the strut attach fitting. I'm curious to see if 
      it can't be repaired. Any & all ideas will be appreciated.   Thanks, 
      John S.
      
      ________________________________  Message 6
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 08:34:28 AM PST US
      From: charles cook <cookflys@yahoo.com>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: gear for Mod. II 
      
      Thanks to all who have encouraged me to get "back in the saddle". Okay now 
      I need to weigh options.- Does anybody have landing gear that would fit m
      y Model II they are willing to sell? 
      I have read of some plans to build a taller, wider-but cannot find in the
       archives. 
      
      Charles Cook 
      N363KF -582 
      ATL=0A=0A=0A      
      
      ________________________________  Message 7
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 08:55:55 AM PST US
      From: "Marwynne Kuhn" <marwynne@verizon.net>
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: gear for Mod. II
      
      If a model iv will fit, I know a man that has a pair.
      
      Marwynne
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: charles cook 
        To: kitfox-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:33 AM
        Subject: Kitfox-List: gear for Mod. II
      
      
              Thanks to all who have encouraged me to get "back in the 
      saddle". Okay now I need to weigh options.  Does anybody have landing 
      gear that would fit my Model II they are willing to sell? 
              I have read of some plans to build a taller, wider but cannot 
      find in the archives. 
      
              Charles Cook 
              N363KF  582 
              ATL 
      
      
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      ________________________________  Message 8
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      Time: 09:40:42 AM PST US
      From: "Trey Moran" <nail13zg@centurytel.net>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Stratus Subaru Engine
      
      Does anyone have specifics on how to hook up the dual bing carbs on the 
      Stratus Subaru engine to a single cable throttle, including cable part 
      numbers etc.
      
      Trey Moran
      KF 5
      
      ________________________________  Message 9
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 10:31:32 AM PST US
      From: "Pete Christensen" <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage
      
      Have you tried Kitfox?
      
      Pete
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: redline4100@att.net 
        To: Kitfox-List@matronics.com 
        Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:21 AM
        Subject: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage
      
      
        Hello,    I'm looking for help finding the original 2.5" L.E. spar 
      tube with extruded sheer web for my damaged left wing. There is a dent 
      aprx. 4" long not quite out to the strut attach fitting. I'm curious to 
      see if it can't be repaired. Any & all ideas will be appreciated.   
      Thanks, John S.
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 10
      ____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 11:16:41 AM PST US
      From: Don & Betty Stevenson <shericom@rogers.com>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Fw:  UNBELIEVEABLE
      
      Anyone think this is for real or is it a spoof??
      
      --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Bruce McGivern <bgmcgivern@sympatico.ca> wrote:
      Subject: Fw:  UNBELIEVEA
      
      
      #yiv1995822602 v\:* {
      }
      
      #yiv1995822602 v\:* {
      }
      
      
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      -
      
      
      -------Original Message-------Subject: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE
      -
      
      
      Is this possible ??? Truly amazing !!!!
      -
      
      
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      -
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 11
      ____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 11:24:11 AM PST US
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: UNBELIEVEABLE
      From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
      
      
      That was Bill Hemple flying a 50% model.  That is part of his new "airshow"
      routine.
      He originally had it happened accidentaly with a 50% Edge 540, was able
      to land it with one wing, then he decided it was cool enough to develope a
      system
      to so he could jettison the wing at will.
      
      So it is not the real plane pulling that one off, but a real big model.
      
      --------
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      Leonard Perry
      Soldotna AK
      Avid "C" / Mk IV 
      582 IVO IFA
      Full Lotus 1260
      95% complete
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212527#212527
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 12
      ____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 12:53:13 PM PST US
      From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
      Subject: Re:  Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage
      
      
      At 08:21 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote:
      >There is a dent aprx. 4" long not quite out to the strut attach 
      >fitting. I'm curious to see if it can't be repaired.
      
      John,
               I'm guessing it's deep enough that you don't want to just 
      live with it. If it's deep it can't be repaired, since you'll cause 
      even more damage to the metal pulling it out. One thing you could do 
      that would be easier than a new spar, although uglier, would be to 
      glue and screw an aluminum patch over it. A lot depends on where it 
      is relative to the strut bracket and ribs.
      
      
      Guy Buchanan
      San Diego, CA
      K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. 
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 13
      ____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 12:53:13 PM PST US
      From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: gear for Mod. II 
      
      
      At 08:33 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote:
      >I have read of some plans to build a taller, wider but cannot find 
      >in the archives.
      
      Charles,
               There are no plans for the off-road gear. Lowell Fitt at 
      Highwing LLC and John McBean at Kitfox LLC are marketing them 
      complete. You could, however, do as my original builder did and 
      rebuild the your landing gear with larger tubes and more reinforcement.
      
      
      Guy Buchanan
      San Diego, CA
      K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. 
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 14
      ____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 12:55:49 PM PST US
      From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: RE:  UNBELIEVEABLE
      
      > From: Don & Betty Stevenson [shericom@rogers.com]
      > Anyone think this is for real or is it a spoof??
      
      Very nice but ... a fake. Anyway, it would be better if you sent e.g. a link
      from
      YouTube, instead of sending the file itself. Not all of us has ADSL
      connection.
      
      Incidentally, on YouTube, you can see the faking:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72y_qFV2oc
      
      Cheers,
      Michel Verheughe
      Norway
      Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 ... grounded
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier">
      
      </b></font></pre>
      
      ________________________________  Message 15
      ____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 01:31:25 PM PST US
      From: "Dave G" <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fw:  UNBELIEVEABLE
      
      All computer generated. Here is a link to explain. It's part of an 
      advertising campaign.
      
      http://www.reggiepaulk.com/2008/10/killathrill-generates-huge-buzz-with.h
      tml
      
      do not archive
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Don & Betty Stevenson 
        To: Kitfox List 
        Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:10 PM
        Subject: Kitfox-List: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE
      
      
              Anyone think this is for real or is it a spoof??
      
              --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Bruce McGivern <bgmcgivern@sympatico.ca> 
      wrote:
      
                Subject: Fw: UNBELIEVEA
      
      
                      -------Original Message-------
                      Subject: Fw: UNBELIEVEABLE
      
      
                            Is this possible ??? Truly amazing !!!!
      
      
                             
      
      
                           
      
                                 
                                 
                           
      
                     
      
                           
                           
                     
             
      
      ________________________________  Message 16
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      Time: 01:43:32 PM PST US
      From: Joe Bruman <redline4100@att.net>
      Subject: Re:  Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage
      
      Guy, We've considered the patch idea & think that may work. Pops is an A&P &
      we've
      built a couple kitfoxs now. I would like to find some 2.5" tube for patch
      material & see if anyone has ribs. Again thanks for the input. John S.
      
      --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> wrote:
      
      From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: KF 2 wing damage
      
      
      At 08:21 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote:
      >There is a dent aprx. 4" long not quite out to the strut attach 
      >fitting. I'm curious to see if it can't be repaired.
      
      John,
               I'm guessing it's deep enough that you don't want to just 
      live with it. If it's deep it can't be repaired, since you'll cause
      
      even more damage to the metal pulling it out. One thing you could do 
      that would be easier than a new spar, although uglier, would be to 
      glue and screw an aluminum patch over it. A lot depends on where it 
      is relative to the strut bracket and ribs.
      
      
      Guy Buchanan
      San Diego, CA
      K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. 
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 17
      ____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 06:03:03 PM PST US
      From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stratus Subaru Engine
      
      I made a leaver that goes from 1 to 2 cables
      
      I will try to take a picture when I get out to the airport
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Trey Moran
      Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:39 AM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Stratus Subaru Engine
      
      
      Does anyone have specifics on how to hook up the dual bing carbs on the
      Stratus Subaru engine to a single cable throttle, including cable part
      numbers etc.
      
      
      Trey Moran
      
      KF 5
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 18
      ____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 06:14:11 PM PST US
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Vixen Info
      From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
      
      
      [quote="oscardog"]I am looking a possibility purchasing 2 different  KF
      Vikings.
      Based on the Part/Serial # can anyone tell me the approximate dates  the
      kits
      were made? One of them I think laid around quite a while before  completion.
      I feel the later one probably has the latest improvements that may  have
      been
      made to the kit like the beefed up nose gear etc.
       The numbers are :
       V9412-0023
       V9610-0023
      
       Thanks,
       George
         
      > [b]
      
      
      George, My Classic 4 kit came out of the factory in August of 1994.  The
      serial
      number is C9408-00XX.  So, those two vixens may be almost twins.
      
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      Tom Jones
      Classic IV
      503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
      Ellensburg, WA
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212607#212607
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 19
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      Time: 07:48:22 PM PST US
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: UNBELIEVEABLE
      From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
      
      
      I can not say if the video is ALL computer generated or not, the last part
      is fake,
      but I think the actual landing is a real RC plane, not computer.   Large
      RC aerobatic planes have MOST DEFINITELY been landed after a wing has
      separated
      as you see in the video.   If you ever saw a master RC pilot flying a state
      of the art aerobatics plane, doing the landing you see in the video would be
      easy
      compared to some of the other things I have seen them do.
      
      Mike
      
      --------
      "NO FEAR" -  If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you
      could
      have !!!
      
      Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212626#212626
      
      
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      JetPilot wrote:
      > I can not say if the video is ALL computer generated or not, the last part is
      fake, but I think the actual landing is a real RC plane, not computer.   Large
      RC aerobatic planes have MOST DEFINITELY been landed after a wing has separated
      as you see in the video.   If you ever saw a master RC pilot flying a state
      of the art aerobatics plane, doing the landing you see in the video would be
      easy compared to some of the other things I have seen them do.
      > 
      > Mike
      
      
      It was Bill Hemple doing the flying with his model... He has done it many times.
      He is the pilot that did the flying for the movie Aviator with the H racer.
      
      We do stuff with our models that would blow your mind, and landing with one wing
      is not really that hard given the huge control surfaces and 80 deg throws we
      use for 3D flying.  Just roll knife edge and hold till your on the deck then
      roll level just like the vid shows.
      
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      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      Leonard Perry
      Soldotna AK
      Avid "C" / Mk IV 
      582 IVO IFA
      Full Lotus 1260
      95% complete
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212717#212717
      
      
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| Subject:  | Stratus Subaru Engine | 
      
      I made it out to the airport and took some pictures of the throttle set up.
      To avoid sending a bunch of large files to the list I just posted them on my
      eaa website.  The address is
      http://roosterville612.org/sitefiles/projects/project8.htm       also check
      out the rest of the Kitfox pictures on the  member projects page.
      
      
      Kirk hull
      
      205AK
      
      Kitfox Classic IV
      
      
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      This one is real:
      
      _http://www.metacafe.com/watch/326057/israeli_pilot_land_saftly_with_one_wing/
      _ 
      (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/326057/israeli_pilot_land_saftly_with_one_wing/) 
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      582 Drivers=2C I am rebuilding a Mod 3 that was originally equiped with a 9
      12 that I am installing a 582 in. the plane has strobes=2C nav lights and a
       radio. I fear that my lighting coil will not put out enough power to handl
      e all those electrics. I remember seeing a set up for an auxillary alternat
      or belt drive off of the prop hub.=2C maybe from CPS=2C I don't know. I rem
      ember that it seemed to cost 3 X what I thought it should. Anyone out there
       have experience with one or have designed one yourself.
      do not archive
      Pat Reilly
      Mod 3 582 Rebuild
      Rockford=2CIL
      
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      Newer Strobes  ~  1A
      
      Nav lights  ~ 1A  if that much
      
      Radio  ~ 500 ma receive / up to 5A Tx.  You should have plenty of power!
      
      
      Noel
      
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reilly
      Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 11:38 PM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: 
      
      
      582 Drivers, I am rebuilding a Mod 3 that was originally equiped with a 912
      that I am installing a 582 in. the plane has strobes, nav lights and a
      radio. I fear that my lighting coil will not put out enough power to handle
      all those electrics. I remember seeing a set up for an auxillary alternator
      belt drive off of the prop hub., maybe from CPS, I don't know. I remember
      that it seemed to cost 3 X what I thought it should. Anyone out there have
      experience with one or have designed one yourself.
      do not archive
      Pat Reilly
      Mod 3 582 Rebuild
      Rockford,IL
      
      
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      My brothers 582 is pulling nav lights, radios, GPS, 3 strobes, heater and intercom
      with no issues.  The wattage does not add up to that much.  You can pull 170
      watts with the 582 lighting coil.
      
      --------
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      Leonard Perry
      Soldotna AK
      Avid "C" / Mk IV 
      582 IVO IFA
      Full Lotus 1260
      95% complete
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212879#212879
      
      
 
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