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1. 09:32 AM - Re: Oil Tank (jdmcbean)
2. 02:12 PM - Re: Pat Reilly, nav lights (patrick reilly)
3. 03:34 PM - Re: NEEDED Prop & gear (patrick reilly)
4. 03:34 PM - Re: NEEDED Prop & gear (patrick reilly)
5. 03:50 PM - grove gear (Malcolm Brubaker)
6. 03:54 PM - Re: grove gear (Weiss Richard)
7. 04:37 PM - Re: grove gear (Matt Dralle)
8. 08:33 PM - Re: Pat Reilly, nav lights (James Shumaker)
9. 10:06 PM - Re: kitfox 2 heavy gear (Lowell Fitt)
10. 10:21 PM - N61PW takes to the skys again (akflyer)
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| Subject: | Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
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Yes we have them.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
Ph 208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pat Reilly
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:27 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Oil Tank
Kitfoxers, I am trying to find an oil tank like the one pictured on the
Classic IV $21750 on Barnstormers. It is attached to firewall just behind
the bluehead 582. It doesn't seem to conform to any I can find in catologs.
The owner answered my e-mail, isn't the builder and can't help me. Hey John
McBean you don't sell that tank do you?
do not archive
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
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| Subject: | Pat Reilly, nav lights |
Jim=2C Thanks for info. Where did you find LED's for nav lights. What strob
e have you got=2C 1.5 amps sounds small=2C but I am not electrically knowle
dgeable enough to know. Also if nav lights are 7 and strobe is 1.5=2C why i
sn't 18 amp out put enough? What else electric are you suppling=2C a radio
I would imagine would be 1 thing.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford=2C IL
t: Kitfox-List: Pat Reilly=2C nav lightsTo: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Pat
I have a Rotax 912 with a similar restriction on power output (18 amp ratin
g). If I fly with my Strobes and Nav lights my battery discharges during f
light. I measured the amp draw and the Whelen tip nav lights draw upwards
of 7 amps by themselves. The strobe is about 1.5 amps. When I put LED lam
ps in the nav lights they draw less about 4/10ths of an amp. The LED's tha
t I found to fit do not put out but about 1/3 of the light=2C but now I can
fly with them on. I used to switch between the nav and strobes during fli
ght so that I did not use them both at once. You are wise to beware about
the amp draw. If you have the Whelen position lights that have 4 lamps the
y will really draw down your battery in a hurry.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message ----From: Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>To: kitfo
x-list@matronics.comSent: Thursday=2C November 6=2C 2008 8:19:01 PMSubject:
RE: Kitfox-List:
Newer Strobes ~ 1A
Nav lights ~ 1A if that much
Radio ~ 500 ma receive / up to 5A Tx. You should have plenty of power!
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reillySent: Thursday=2C November 06
=2C 2008 11:38 PMTo: kitfox matronicsSubject: Kitfox-List:
582 Drivers=2C I am rebuilding a Mod 3 that was originally equiped with a 9
12 that I am installing a 582 in. the plane has strobes=2C nav lights and a
radio. I fear that my lighting coil will not put out enough power to handl
e all those electrics. I remember seeing a set up for an auxillary alternat
or belt drive off of the prop hub.=2C maybe from CPS=2C I don't know. I rem
ember that it seemed to cost 3 X what I thought it should. Anyone out there
have experience with one or have designed one yourself.do not archivePat R
eillyMod 3 582 RebuildRockford=2CIL
http://www.matronics.com/contributionhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?K
itfox-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | NEEDED Prop & gear |
Guy=2C Sorry about that I see you were answering somone elses question and
did include Lowell's address.
do not archive
Pat> Date: Sat=2C 8 Nov 2008 19:16:14 -0800> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com>
From: bnn@nethere.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NEEDED Prop & gear> > -->
Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>> > At 11:53
AM 11/8/2008=2C you wrote:> >Hi=2C Thanks again for info=2C does anyone kno
w lowell's e-mail address ?> > For the gear=2C talk to Mark Ferkin at mark@
highwingllc.com or Lowell > Fitt at lcfitt@sbcglobal.net.> > > Guy Buchanan
> San Diego=2C CA> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done=2C thanks mostly to
=====================> > >
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| Subject: | NEEDED Prop & gear |
Guy=2C Lowell's e-mail address is lcfitt@sbcglobal.net
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford=2C IL> Date: Sat=2C 8 Nov 2008 19:16:14 -0800> To: kitfox-list@mat
ronics.com> From: bnn@nethere.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NEEDED Prop &
> At 11:53 AM 11/8/2008=2C you wrote:> >Hi=2C Thanks again for info=2C does
anyone know lowell's e-mail address ?> > For the gear=2C talk to Mark Ferk
in at mark@highwingllc.com or Lowell > Fitt at lcfitt@sbcglobal.net.> > > G
uy Buchanan> San Diego=2C CA> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done=2C thank
========================> >
>
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anybody know the cost of a grove gear kit?
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About $1500.
Rick Weiss
Series V Speedster, 912S Power,
SkyStar S/N 1
MDKitfox@aol.com
On Nov 10, 2008, at 6:49 PM, Malcolm Brubaker wrote:
> anybody know the cost of a grove gear kit?
>
>
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They were about $2200 delivered for my RV-8. Stock gear were ~$550. I got the
airfoiled ones. In a word, they are sweet. Work of art. Here are a few pictures
of what the RV-8 airfoiled units look like:
Matt's Web Blog on the Grove Gear:
Page 1:
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=dralle&project=619&category=2973&log=64296&row=92
Page 2:
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=dralle&project=619&category=2973&log=64297&row=91
Page 3:
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=dralle&project=619&category=2973&log=64322&row=65
Page 4:
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=dralle&project=619&category=2973&log=64323&row=64
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N844RV (res)
At 03:54 PM 11/10/2008 Monday, you wrote:
>About $1500.
>
>Rick Weiss
>Series V Speedster, 912S Power,
>SkyStar S/N 1
><mailto:MDKitfox@aol.com>MDKitfox@aol.com
>
>
>On Nov 10, 2008, at 6:49 PM, Malcolm Brubaker wrote:
>>anybody know the cost of a grove gear kit?
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| Subject: | Re: Pat Reilly, nav lights |
Pat=0A=0AGood questions.- I have radio, transponder, strobes, nav lights,
instrument post-lights, gps, turn and bank, engine instrument gages, ANR
-headset-power supply-and intercom.- That 18 amps is at high rpms,
and 80% of that is only 14.4 amps.- I should add it all up so that I know
exactly how much each uses, but my experience is that flying at night uses
power out of the battery.- After landing the engine has had to be jumped
to get it to start because the descent used enough power to drain down the
battery.- There are no plug in lamps for the Whelen position lights.-
Whelen says they cannot do that because the unit has to be certified as a c
omplete unit.- To get the correct spread of light at the right intensity
requires design from a clean sheet of paper anyway.- Installing automotiv
e lamps gives light that is not optimized for the lens.=0A=0AJim Shumaker
=0A=0A=0A-=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: patrick reilly <pa
treilly43@hotmail.com>=0ATo: kitfox matronics <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
=0ASent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:11:05 PM=0ASubject: RE: Kitfox-List: P
at Reilly, nav lights=0A=0AJim, Thanks for info. Where did you find LED's f
or nav lights. What strobe have you got, 1.5 amps sounds small, but I am no
t electrically knowledgeable enough to know. Also if nav lights are 7 and s
trobe is 1.5, why isn't 18 amp out put enough? What else electric are you s
uppling, a radio I would imagine would be 1 thing.=0A-=0A-=0APat Reilly
=0AMod 3 582 Rebuild=0ARockford, IL=0A=0A=0A______________________________
__=0A=0ADate: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 07:47:39 -0800=0AFrom: jimshumaker@sbcglobal.
net=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: Pat Reilly, nav lights=0ATo: kitfox-list@matron
ics.com=0A=0A=0A=0APat=0A=0AI have a Rotax 912 with a similar restriction o
n power output (18 amp rating).- If I fly with my Strobes and Nav lights
my battery discharges during flight.- I measured the amp draw and the Whe
len tip nav lights draw upwards of 7 amps by themselves.- The strobe is a
bout 1.5 amps.- When I put LED lamps in the nav lights they draw less abo
ut 4/10ths of an amp.- The LED's that I found to fit do not put out but a
bout 1/3 of the light, but now I can fly with them on.- I used to switch
between the nav and strobes during flight so that I did not use them both a
t once.- You are wise to beware about the amp draw.- If you have the Wh
elen position lights that have 4 lamps they will really draw down your batt
ery in a hurry.=0A=0AJim Shumaker=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0A
From: Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0AS
ent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 8:19:01 PM=0ASubject: RE: Kitfox-List:=0A
=0A=0ANewer Strobes- ~- 1A=0ANav lights -~ 1A -if that much=0ARadio
- ~ 500 ma receive / up to 5A Tx.- You should have plenty of power!=0A
-=0ANoel=0A-=0AFrom:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owne
r-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reilly=0ASent: Thu
rsday, November 06, 2008 11:38 PM=0ATo: kitfox matronics=0ASubject: Kitfox-
List: =0A-=0A582 Drivers, I am rebuilding a Mod 3 that was originally equ
iped with a 912 that I am installing a 582 in. the plane has strobes, nav l
ights and a radio. I fear that my lighting coil will not put out enough pow
er to handle all those electrics. I remember seeing a set up for an auxilla
ry alternator belt-drive off of the prop hub., maybe from CPS, I don't kn
ow. I remember that it seemed to cost 3 X what I thought it should. Anyone
out there have experience with one or have designed one yourself.=0Ado not
archive=0APat Reilly=0AMod 3 582 Rebuild=0ARockford,IL=0A -=0A =0A -
=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/contribution=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigat
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| Subject: | Re: kitfox 2 heavy gear |
John,
I didn't have an opportunity to call today, but I did talk to Mark, At
present, he wants to keep all fab in house. I am busy now making jigs for
the gear legs. The cabane and spring strut jigs are done. I will let you
know when they will be available. My guess, 4 or 5 weeks with all the honey
dos etc around here.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Bruman" <redline4100@att.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:02 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: kitfox 2 heavy gear
Hi, I understand that lowell Fitt has a heavy duty gear available. Please
give me a call or E-mail on it. Thanks John S. (989) 424-1710
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| Subject: | N61PW takes to the skys again |
After a few years under a tarp, I rescued N61PW from going to the dump. 2 years
later, after an extensive rebuild and lots of real bad swear words I got to
give her the first flight today. She came out a portly 581 pounds even after
I removed a bunch of crap the original builder had installed... but I think I
added back all but 3 pounds by using medium weight fabric and putting on 24" aircraft
tires (heavy buggers). It came out with a CG of 11.8". I will be putting
a survival pack together and putting it as far aft as I can in the extended
bagage area (goes back to the front of the vert. stab.)
All in all it has been alot of fun, but more work that if I had bought a new kit...
Today made all the cuts and burns worth it when she broke ground and did
not have any bad habits.
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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