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1. 04:37 AM - Re: grove gear (bob noffs)
2. 04:37 AM - Re: grove gear (bob noffs)
3. 06:27 AM - Happy Veteran's Day (Kitfoxkirk)
4. 07:09 AM - Re: kitfox 2 heavy gear (Lowell Fitt)
5. 07:20 AM - Re: Happy Veteran's Day (patrick reilly)
6. 07:48 AM - Re: Pat Reilly, nav lights (patrick reilly)
7. 08:22 AM - Re: Pat Reilly, nav lights (akflyer)
8. 09:07 AM - 582 Heater hose routing (Pat Reilly)
9. 11:55 AM - Re: grove gear (jdmcbean)
10. 12:56 PM - Re: Re: Pat Reilly, nav lights (patrick reilly)
11. 05:18 PM - Re: 582 Heater hose routing (Marco Menezes)
12. 10:51 PM - Re: N61PW takes to the skys again (akflyer)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Malcolm Brubaker
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:49 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: grove gear
anybody know the cost of a grove gear kit?
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i think there are several options. google grove gear and prices are
listed. i think i paid about $800 but not for a kitfox.
bob noffs
----- Original Message -----
From: Malcolm Brubaker
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:49 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: grove gear
anybody know the cost of a grove gear kit?
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| Subject: | Happy Veteran's Day |
Hello Fellow Kitfoxers:
I just wanted to thank all the Veteran's out there for their service to our
country.
Kirk Martenson
CW2 US Army (retired)
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| Subject: | Re: kitfox 2 heavy gear |
Sorry folks - late at night, should have gone direct.
Lowell
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: kitfox 2 heavy gear
>
> John,
>
> I didn't have an opportunity to call today, but I did talk to Mark, At
> present, he wants to keep all fab in house. I am busy now making jigs for
> the gear legs. The cabane and spring strut jigs are done. I will let you
> know when they will be available. My guess, 4 or 5 weeks with all the
> honey dos etc around here.
>
> Lowell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Bruman" <redline4100@att.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:02 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: kitfox 2 heavy gear
>
>
> Hi, I understand that lowell Fitt has a heavy duty gear available. Please
> give me a call or E-mail on it. Thanks John S. (989) 424-1710
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Happy Veteran's Day |
Kirk=2C Your welcome and thank you. Everyone should be required to spend 18
months or 2 years in military service. Won't happen in this country.
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Pat Reilly
U.S. Army 1st Cav1965-1966
ist@matronics.comSubject: Kitfox-List: Happy Veteran's Day
Hello Fellow Kitfoxers:
I just wanted to thank all the Veteran's out there for their service to our
country.
Kirk Martenson
CW2 US Army (retired)
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| Subject: | Pat Reilly, nav lights |
Jim=2C Thanks for the response. Sounds like you have a fairly large electri
cal requirement on that plane. But=2C not a whole lot more than mine.
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Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford=2C IL
ct: Re: Kitfox-List: Pat Reilly=2C nav lightsTo: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Pat
Good questions. I have radio=2C transponder=2C strobes=2C nav lights=2C in
strument post lights=2C gps=2C turn and bank=2C engine instrument gages=2C
ANR headset power supply and intercom. That 18 amps is at high rpms=2C and
80% of that is only 14.4 amps. I should add it all up so that I know exac
tly how much each uses=2C but my experience is that flying at night uses po
wer out of the battery. After landing the engine has had to be jumped to g
et it to start because the descent used enough power to drain down the batt
ery. There are no plug in lamps for the Whelen position lights. Whelen sa
ys they cannot do that because the unit has to be certified as a complete u
nit. To get the correct spread of light at the right intensity requires de
sign from a clean sheet of paper anyway. Installing automotive lamps gives
light that is not optimized for the lens.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message ----From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>To
: kitfox matronics <kitfox-list@matronics.com>Sent: Monday=2C November 10
=2C 2008 2:11:05 PMSubject: RE: Kitfox-List: Pat Reilly=2C nav lights
Jim=2C Thanks for info. Where did you find LED's for nav lights. What strob
e have you got=2C 1.5 amps sounds small=2C but I am not electrically knowle
dgeable enough to know. Also if nav lights are 7 and strobe is 1.5=2C why i
sn't 18 amp out put enough? What else electric are you suppling=2C a radio
I would imagine would be 1 thing. Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 RebuildRockford=2C
IL
t: Kitfox-List: Pat Reilly=2C nav lightsTo: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Pat
I have a Rotax 912 with a similar restriction on power output (18 amp ratin
g). If I fly with my Strobes and Nav lights my battery discharges during f
light. I measured the amp draw and the Whelen tip nav lights draw upwards
of 7 amps by themselves. The strobe is about 1.5 amps. When I put LED lam
ps in the nav lights they draw less about 4/10ths of an amp. The LED's tha
t I found to fit do not put out but about 1/3 of the light=2C but now I can
fly with them on. I used to switch between the nav and strobes during fli
ght so that I did not use them both at once. You are wise to beware about
the amp draw. If you have the Whelen position lights that have 4 lamps the
y will really draw down your battery in a hurry.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message ----From: Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>To: kitfo
x-list@matronics.comSent: Thursday=2C November 6=2C 2008 8:19:01 PMSubject:
RE: Kitfox-List:
Newer Strobes ~ 1A
Nav lights ~ 1A if that much
Radio ~ 500 ma receive / up to 5A Tx. You should have plenty of power!
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reillySent: Thursday=2C November 06
=2C 2008 11:38 PMTo: kitfox matronicsSubject: Kitfox-List:
582 Drivers=2C I am rebuilding a Mod 3 that was originally equiped with a 9
12 that I am installing a 582 in. the plane has strobes=2C nav lights and a
radio. I fear that my lighting coil will not put out enough power to handl
e all those electrics. I remember seeing a set up for an auxillary alternat
or belt drive off of the prop hub.=2C maybe from CPS=2C I don't know. I rem
ember that it seemed to cost 3 X what I thought it should. Anyone out there
have experience with one or have designed one yourself.do not archivePat R
eillyMod 3 582 RebuildRockford=2CIL
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| Subject: | Re: Pat Reilly, nav lights |
Yesterday I was flying with the nav lights, tail strobe, radio, intercom, dual
fans for defrost, GPS, and instrument lights, fuel flow meter etc. Never did
it start to discharge the system with the 582. on the ground at idle it was still
charging at .2 amps and in the air it was around 5 amps. I kept switching
between amps and volts and every thing stayed steady at 13.8V and 4.5 - 5 amps.
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213511#213511
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| Subject: | 582 Heater hose routing |
Darin, George, and any other 582 drivers, What routing did you use to
install heater. One of you said you needed more heat, some one said you
get plenty.
Here's my theory. Tell me if I am right or not. I want to install my
supply to the heater in the hose as close to the engine as possible
after the coolant exits the engine at the head. Coolant will be hottest
there. I want to return coolant from heater to system as close to pump
as possible. This would mean path of least resistance would route as
much hot coolant as 5/8" heater hose could handle and remainder would
continue thru radiator. And, shut off valve in heater hose only would
not restrict 1" radiator routing should it fail, as you pointed out
Darin. It would also help to use Y's instead of tee's. Anybody got a
source for 1"x1" x 5/8" Y's or tee's?
Pat REilly
<od 3 582 REbuild
Rockford, IL
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Malcolm,
We are a Grove Distributor so let us know if we can help.
Current pricing on the Grove gear kits..
Model III & IV $1590 Gear, Brackets, Axles
Series 5 - Current $1880 Gear, Brackets, Axles
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm
Brubaker
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 4:49 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: grove gear
anybody know the cost of a grove gear kit?
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| Subject: | Re: Pat Reilly, nav lights |
Leonard=2C Sounds good. Congradulations on getting that bird off the ground
.
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Pat Reilly> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Pat Reilly=2C nav lights> From: akfly
er_2000@yahoo.com> Date: Tue=2C 11 Nov 2008 08:20:41 -0800> To: kitfox-list
0@yahoo.com>> > Yesterday I was flying with the nav lights=2C tail strobe
=2C radio=2C intercom=2C dual fans for defrost=2C GPS=2C and instrument lig
hts=2C fuel flow meter etc. Never did it start to discharge the system with
the 582. on the ground at idle it was still charging at .2 amps and in the
air it was around 5 amps. I kept switching between amps and volts and ever
y thing stayed steady at 13.8V and 4.5 - 5 amps.> > --------> DO NOT ARCHIV
E> Leonard Perry> Soldotna AK> Avid "=3BC"=3B / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA
> Full Lotus 1260> As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tink
eritis takes over.> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.m
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| Subject: | Re: 582 Heater hose routing |
Hey Pat, while you're at it, diagram that would ya? Parts and supplier list
would be nice too! ;-)
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I'll file the info in my "projects" folder.
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Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1
--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Pat Reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Pat Reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 Heater hose routing
Darin, George, and any other 582 drivers, What routing did you use to insta
ll heater. One of you said you needed more heat,- some one said you get p
lenty.
Here's my theory. Tell me if I am right or not. I want to install my supply
to the heater in the hose-as close to the-engine as possible after the
coolant exits the engine at the head.-Coolant will be hottest there. I w
ant to return coolant from heater-to system-as close to pump as possibl
e. This would mean path of least resistance would route as much hot coolant
-as 5/8" heater hose could handle and remainder would continue thru radia
tor. And, shut off valve in heater hose only would not restrict 1" radiator
routing should it fail, as you pointed out Darin.-It would also help to
use Y's instead of tee's. Anybody got a source for 1"x1" x 5/8"-Y's or te
e's?
-
Pat REilly
<od 3 582 REbuild
Rockford, IL---
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| Subject: | Re: N61PW takes to the skys again |
link to the first flight vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUCPXGh0gNI
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213636#213636
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