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Thu 11/20/08


Total Messages Posted: 19



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     0. 12:32 AM - Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? (Matt Dralle)
     1. 07:37 AM - Re: Kitfox Engine - 2 Stroke VS 4 Stroke (Mid-range RPMs) (Joe & Jan Connell)
     2. 07:54 AM - Re: Kitfox Engine - 2 Stroke VS 4 Stroke (Mid-range RPMs) (akflyer)
     3. 08:00 AM - Re: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? (akflyer)
     4. 08:07 AM - 912S Fuel (George Wells)
     5. 08:39 AM - Re: Re: Windshield fit (Lynn Matteson)
     6. 08:59 AM - Weight & Balance (George Wells)
     7. 09:17 AM - Re: Re: A Fun Flight (Guy Buchanan)
     8. 09:26 AM - Re: Weight & Balance (Bob Brennan)
     9. 09:56 AM - Re: Weight & Balance (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
    10. 10:10 AM - Re: Weight & Balance (Michael Gibbs)
    11. 11:06 AM - Re: Windshield fit (darinh)
    12. 11:09 AM - Re: Weight & Balance (akflyer)
    13. 12:46 PM - Re: Weight & Balance (jdmcbean)
    14. 03:50 PM - Picture size (Pat Reilly)
    15. 05:26 PM - Re: Picture size (Guy Buchanan)
    16. 05:27 PM - Apology (Guy Buchanan)
    17. 05:51 PM - Re: Apology (fox5flyer)
    18. 09:26 PM - Plexiglass Scratch Repair... (Matt Dralle)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:32:22 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...?
    Dear Listers, The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-) Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really* don't want to have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator


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    Time: 07:37:38 AM PST US
    From: "Joe & Jan Connell" <jconnell@fmwildblue.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox Engine - 2 Stroke VS 4 Stroke (Mid-range RPMs)
    Guys, I have a Kitfox-II with the older 582. Total time on the engine is about 200 hours. Most of the time I'm flying around at 5,000 to 5,200 RPM. Descents are done at 4,000 to 4,500 RPM enroute to the airport. I cruise about 1,000 to 1,500 AGL. EGTs are always good. Take off rpm is around 6,500 rpm. Might I be exposed flying and descending at these mid-range RPMs? Joe Connell Kitfox-II N62JK


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    Time: 07:54:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kitfox Engine - 2 Stroke VS 4 Stroke (Mid-range RPMs)
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    not if your EGTs are in the green. You need to load the engine to keep the EGTs down, one feature I really like about the IFA. I just bump in more pitch on a long decent so the engine stays loaded. If your EGTs are going up, drop the needles one clip and see if it helps. I have the Arctic Sparrow mixture control, so I can twist the needles out a turn or 2 on a long decent if need be. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over. hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=215336#215336


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    Time: 08:00:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...?
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    Matt, I belong to several snowmobile forums. All have the option of being a CM or Contributing member. Most are 15-20 bucks a year. The benefits are that you get more attachment space etc. Non CM's have limited space to post pics etc. Just something to think about, as most guys are willing to kick in just to say they help the site out, and to have their name in green when they log on to the forum. May be worth looking at for you. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over. hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=215339#215339


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    Time: 08:07:41 AM PST US
    From: "George Wells" <georgewells@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: 912S Fuel
    I used to run Premium gas in my 100 HP 912 but now in our area it all contains ethanol except 1 station that has regular gas without it.I do not really want to use gas that has it ! ! and per Rotax,the octane rating of regular is too low. Is the only answer now,you will have to use 100LL ? Thanks, George


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    Time: 08:39:47 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Windshield fit
    ...AND wear breathing protection...some of that stuff is nasty. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, 591hrs Sensenich 62x46 flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition system do not archive On Nov 19, 2008, at 2:40 PM, darinh wrote: > > Rick, > > Thanks for the compliments...I am pretty please with how the turned > out. I had put this part off for a couple months and went the tape > route but with the temps dropping (and an incident where a peice of > tape came loose and gave me quite a scare) I decided that now was > as good as any to make the fairings. Fiberglass is a great medium > to work with...just make sure you protect the area you are working > and make sure you have a good release agent (brown packaging tape > in this instance). Clean up any epoxy drips before it cures also. > Have fun. > > -------- > Darin Hawkes > Series 7 (Phase 1 - Flight Testing) > 914 Turbo > Kaysville, Utah > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=215168#215168 > >


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    Time: 08:59:34 AM PST US
    From: "George Wells" <georgewells@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Weight & Balance
    Sometime ago there was a link to a web site, or a list member had a W & B program for Windows. I had it once on my machine but now it's gone -- How can I find it and download it ? thanks, George


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    Time: 09:17:47 AM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: A Fun Flight
    At 09:18 PM 11/19/2008, you wrote: >My point is, that if you release the clutch in flight then >re-engage, the load on the >clutch isn't going to be nearly as high as it is at start-up. Your analysis is accurate as far as it goes, but there is a potentially significant difference between the two cases. In flight the prop is "loaded"; meaning it is "mechanically" connected to a fast moving air stream. It will resist any variation from it's equilibrium rpm. When you're on the ground there is no load at idle and little load at, say, 3000 rpm. I have never quantified the difference so I avoid testing in that regime. >It would bother me to have the prop disengaged from the engine in >flight because then >you're depending on the starter to work in case the engine dies and >the windmilling >prop would be no assistance what-so-ever. You are anyway. With the 3:1 gearing and the wimpy Warp drive blades you'd have to loose all compression to turn the engine with the prop. I think there are several in the list who have shut down in flight and discovered this. >So, if you don't do your technique of descending in steps, what is >the maximum descent >rate you can have to stay within recommended EGT and Cyl Hd >temperatures at some low >power setting such as 25%? I could live with 1000 fpm descent fine >and even 500 fpm >would be workable given the relatively low ground speed. I think I can do around 400-500 fpm, but it's a cruise speed descent and slow relative to my fly-mates. >I thought that the auto oil injection was rpm dependent vs air >flow so that this effect would be automatically compensated for. It is, but not by much. The main variation is that the oil injection reduces dramatically at idle. I've never seen the curve, but that's what I've been told. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.


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    Time: 09:26:56 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
    Subject: Weight & Balance
    http://www.google.com/search?complete=1 <http://www.google.com/search?complete=1&hl=en&q=aircraft+weight+and+balance &aq=1&oq=aircraft+weig> &hl=en&q=aircraft+weight+and+balance&aq=1&oq=aircraft+weig Bob Brennan - N717GB 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop Wrightsville Pa _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Wells Sent: 20 November 2008 11:59 am Subject: Kitfox-List: Weight & Balance Sometime ago there was a link to a web site, or a list member had a W & B program for Windows. I had it once on my machine but now it's gone -- How can I find it and download it ? thanks, George


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    Time: 09:56:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Weight & Balance
    From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com>
    On Thu, November 20, 2008 8:58 am, George Wells wrote: > Sometime ago there was a link to a web site, or a list member had a W & B program for > Windows. > I had it once on my machine but now it's gone -- > How can I find it and download it ? There was one that Don Pearsall cooked up. He had it posted on his website, might be able to find it there still. <http://www.sportflight.com/> You might google for something like "aircraft weight and balance spreadsheet". -- Paul A. Franz, P.E. PAF Consulting Engineers Office 425.440.9505 Cell 425.241.1618


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    Time: 10:10:28 AM PST US
    From: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Weight & Balance
    Murle Williams has an Excel spreadsheet on his web site: <http://MurleWilliamsAviation.com/downloads.html > Mike G. N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster Phoenix, AZ On Nov 20, 2008, at 10:55 AM, "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul@eucleides.com> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, November 20, 2008 8:58 am, George Wells wrote: >> Sometime ago there was a link to a web site, or a list member had a >> W & B program for >> Windows. >> I had it once on my machine but now it's gone -- >> How can I find it and download it ? > > There was one that Don Pearsall cooked up. He had it posted on his > website, might be > able to find it there still. > > <http://www.sportflight.com/> > > You might google for something like "aircraft weight and balance > spreadsheet". > > -- > Paul A. Franz, P.E. > PAF Consulting Engineers > Office 425.440.9505 > Cell 425.241.1618 > >


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    Time: 11:06:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Windshield fit
    From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
    Pat, The glass will stay in place if it is wetted out properly (read not too much resin). No tape or other means to hold it in place on the underside of the wing is necessary. And, yes they must be removed to fold the wings. I don't ever fold my wings but there are only 3 fasteners that need to be removed if I did. And yes, Lynn is correct...breathing protection is in order but only for the sanding and painting phases if you use epoxy resin. If you use polyester or vinylester resin, well that is a hole different ballgame. -------- Darin Hawkes Series 7 (Phase 1 - Flight Testing) 914 Turbo Kaysville, Utah Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=215395#215395


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    Time: 11:09:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Weight & Balance
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    here is one for KF or Avid. just check the dimensions to make sure they reflect what is on your plane. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over. hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=215396#215396 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kitfox_weight_and_balance_207.xls


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    Time: 12:46:32 PM PST US
    From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
    Subject: Weight & Balance
    George, This should help. http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/Weight%20 <http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/Weight%20&%20Balance.htm> &%20Balance.htm From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Wells Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Weight & Balance Sometime ago there was a link to a web site, or a list member had a W & B program for Windows. I had it once on my machine but now it's gone -- How can I find it and download it ? thanks, George


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    Time: 03:50:17 PM PST US
    From: "Pat Reilly" <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Picture size
    Guy, If this oicture attached, is it the right size? I compressed it. Pat REilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford, IL


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    Time: 05:26:02 PM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: Picture size
    At 03:49 PM 11/20/2008, you wrote: >Guy, If this oicture attached, is it the right size? I compressed it. > >Pat REilly >Mod 3 582 Rebuild >Rockford, IL Whoops. You overshot. You got it down to 8kb but it's too small to see. Re-size to 1024 x 768 pixels and set your JPEG compression to 15 and you should get a file size just under 100k, which should be fine for a single picture. If you want to send a bunch of pictures, follow the instructions on http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/kitfox-list.html#Top and post a notice of the addition on the list. Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.


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    Time: 05:27:06 PM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Apology
    Sorry folks, The message to Pat Reilly about the picture was supposed to go direct. My bad. Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. Do not archive


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    Time: 05:51:33 PM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Re: Apology
    Bad? That wasn't bad! Ask me how I know. Then again, don't... Deke do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Buchanan" <bnn@nethere.com> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Apology > > Sorry folks, > The message to Pat Reilly about the picture was supposed to > go direct. My bad. > > > Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator > San Diego, CA > K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. > > Do not archive > > > > >


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    Time: 09:26:32 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Plexiglass Scratch Repair...
    Dear Listers, During the fitting of the Plexiglass canopy on my RV-8, I managed to put some pretty disheartening scratches in the windscreen section. You can see from the pictures that they looked pretty bad. A call to Van's revealed that a replacement canopy would be $640 + $250 shipping to California! Ack. So what to do... A bit of surfing and I found this "Scratch Off" windshield repair kit for $35 on the Aircraft Spruce web site: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/scratchoff.php Frankly, it just seemed too good to be true. Nothing for $35 could be that "magic" I thought, but what did I have to lose at this point.... Well, the kit arrived yesterday and I decided to give it a try tonight. In a word: WOW! In about 2 hours the windscreen looked as good as new - no kidding - AS GOOD AS NEW! The pictures really don't do the repair justice. It looks better in person. There are basically two sponges in the kit with four decreasingly porous pastes. You just put some of the first paste on the sponge and buff it in with a drill at 1200 RPM or less. Then you wash everything down good including the sponge and windshield with warm water. Then you use the next finer paste and repeat the process. Etc, etc, until you've used the 4th paste that is kind of like car wax. Frankly, the scratches were gone after the first application of paste - I started at #2 based on the instructions and the "observed severity" of the scratch depth. So, the bottom line is, if you've got scuffs or mild scratches in your Plexiglass buy this repair kit. It works! Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880




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