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1. 06:21 AM - Importing Kit fox to Canada. (Simon)
2. 07:01 AM - Re: Kitfox mishap in Colorado (Bob Brennan)
3. 07:09 AM - Re: [!! SPAM] Re: 582/Bing 54 mixture control? (Guy Buchanan)
4. 07:54 AM - 582 Rebuild kit questions, and ignition questions. (815TL)
5. 09:34 AM - Re: Kitfox mishap in Colorado (Clint Bazzill)
6. 10:07 AM - Re: Kitfox mishap in Colorado (Kitfoxkirk)
7. 10:48 AM - Trailering a Kitfox (Kitfoxkirk)
8. 10:57 AM - Re: Any Arctic Sparrow users out there? (corbob13)
9. 11:20 AM - Re: Trailering a Kitfox (Clint Bazzill)
10. 11:35 AM - Re: Trailering a Kitfox (815TL)
11. 11:51 AM - Re: Trailering a Kitfox (Lynn Matteson)
12. 11:56 AM - Re: Trailering a Kitfox (Marco Menezes)
13. 12:08 PM - Re: Trailering a Kitfox (Bob Brennan)
14. 12:46 PM - Re: Trailering a Kitfox (Lynn Matteson)
15. 12:50 PM - Re: Trailering a Kitfox (jdmcbean)
16. 01:35 PM - Re: New Flying Video - Enjoy !!! (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
17. 01:38 PM - Re: Kitfox mishap in Colorado (Noel Loveys)
18. 02:03 PM - Re: Kitfox mishap in Colorado (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
19. 02:43 PM - Re: Importing Kit fox to Canada. (Ken Potter)
20. 03:02 PM - Re: Kitfox mishap in Colorado (Lynn Matteson)
21. 03:05 PM - Re: New Flying Video - Enjoy !!! (Ken Potter)
22. 04:50 PM - Re: New Flying Video - Enjoy !!! (JetPilot)
23. 05:33 PM - Re: Trailering a Kitfox (Tom Jones)
24. 06:44 PM - Re: Trailering a Kitfox (vetdrem)
25. 08:05 PM - Re: Trailering a Kitfox (rudderdancer)
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| Subject: | Importing Kit fox to Canada. |
Hay does anybody have advice? To a new Aviator from Australia getting back into
flying after twenty years.
I am thinking of Buying a Kitfox 4 and returning to BC with it.
Should I go to the problem of de-registering it from its N no. Or just Keep it
registered and returning to the US for servicing? Periodically.
Is this possible/ or practical.
Doe this happen. I see N no. aircraft at airfield's in BC.
I am open to suggestions.
--------
Simon Graham RN
Paramedic Bome
Tele. 1(713) 609 4646
Cell 287 711
GMT plus 1Hr
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| Subject: | Kitfox mishap in Colorado |
Here's the webpages featuring the Kitfox that crashed, full details and
pictures. It was purchased by a missionary to fly from village to village in
Guatamala. They are currently looking for another similar plane to replace
it.
http://www.pattonministries.org/kitFox/kitFox-Main.php
More details about the crash:
http://www.albertleatribune.com/news/2008/nov/28/pilot-speaks-about-survivin
g-airplane-crash/
Bob Brennan - N717GB
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: 26 November 2008 11:12 am
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox mishap in Colorado
Nobody seems to have mentioned the Kitfox that crash-landed in
Boulder, Colorado. I got the alert from Google a couple of days ago.
They said it was an engine problem that caused the pilot to put it
down...he wasn't hurt. Anybody near there know what kind of engine
problem, and what kind of engine?
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: [!! SPAM] Re: 582/Bing 54 mixture control? |
At 12:19 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote:
>This is also why this reply to the original post has been added to
>the list as a separate thread instead being attached to the original thread.
You know, I never thought of that. Thanks Tom. I'll make sure I clean
up the subject lines from now on. (And, I think I'll turn off any
Spam notification at my server.)
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | 582 Rebuild kit questions, and ignition questions. |
Hey guys, a couple of more general questions for ya. It is not time for a rebuild
yet on my 582, but maybe by next fall or the following spring, depending on
hours I put on.
Looking around for pistons, gaskets and such I came across this. It is an aftermarket
kit that is supposed to exceed the OEM specs. The price is realy good,
about half what you would pay from CPS or LEAF. Would this be a good way to
go, or is it asking for problems?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rotax-582-overhaul-piston-kit-ultralight-aircraft_W0QQitemZ230310407314QQcmdZViewItemQQptZSnowmobile_Parts_Accessories?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
Second question. The mags/coil packs on the 582. Not knowing much about the ignition
system, is it reccomended to replace the magneto and or the coil packs
at hourly intervals, like on certified planes? I can't seem to locate the Ducati
coils on CPS or LEAF, although I might not be looking for the right thing.
Anyone know who sells them?
Andrew
Kitfox II, 815TL, Rotax 582-C
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| Subject: | Kitfox mishap in Colorado |
Boy=2C that is one obese Model IV. Even without Grove gear. What is this 1
0% increase in weight?
Clint> From: matronics@bob.brennan.name> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> Sub
ject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox mishap in Colorado> Date: Wed=2C 3 Dec 2008 1
s@bob.brennan.name>> > Here's the webpages featuring the Kitfox that crashe
d=2C full details and> pictures. It was purchased by a missionary to fly fr
om village to village in> Guatamala. They are currently looking for another
similar plane to replace> it.> http://www.pattonministries.org/kitFox/kitF
ox-Main.php> > More details about the crash:> http://www.albertleatribune.c
om/news/2008/nov/28/pilot-speaks-about-survivin> g-airplane-crash/> > Bob B
rennan - N717GB > 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox> Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop>
Wrightsville Pa > > -----Original Message-----> From: owner-kitfox-list-se
rver@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Beha
lf Of Lynn Matteson> Sent: 26 November 2008 11:12 am> To: kitfox-list@matro
nics.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox mishap in Colorado> > --> Kitfox-Lis
t message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>> > Nobody seems to ha
ve mentioned the Kitfox that crash-landed in > Boulder=2C Colorado. I got t
he alert from Google a couple of days ago. > They said it was an engine pro
blem that caused the pilot to put it > down...he wasn't hurt. Anybody near
there know what kind of engine > problem=2C and what kind of engine?> > Lyn
n Matteson> Kitfox IV Speedster=2C taildragger> Jabiru 2200=2C 593hrs> Sens
enich 62x46> flying again after rebuild=2C and new Electroair direct-fire i
gnition > system=3B> also building a new pair of snow skis> do not archive>
===================> > >
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox mishap in Colorado |
How is it that the gross weight was increased by 10%? I asked about this
several years ago when I wanted to place my C IV on floats, and received
mixed answers.
Thanks,
Kirk
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Clint Bazzill <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>wrote:
> Boy, that is one obese Model IV. Even without Grove gear. What is this 10%
> increase in weight?
>
> Clint
>
> > From: matronics@bob.brennan.name
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox mishap in Colorado
> > Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:00:39 -0500
> >
> matronics@bob.brennan.name>
> >
> > Here's the webpages featuring the Kitfox that crashed, full details and
> > pictures. It was purchased by a missionary to fly from village to village
> in
> > Guatamala. They are currently looking for another similar plane to
> replace
> > it.
> > http://www.pattonministries.org/kitFox/kitFox-Main.php
> >
> > More details about the crash:
> >
> http://www.albertleatribune.com/news/2008/nov/28/pilot-speaks-about-survivin
> > g-airplane-crash/
> >
> > Bob Brennan - N717GB
> > 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
> > Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
> > Wrightsville Pa
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn
> Matteson
> > Sent: 26 November 2008 11:12 am
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox mishap in Colorado
> >
> >
> > Nobody seems to have mentioned the Kitfox that crash-landed in
> > Boulder, Colorado. I got the alert from Google a couple of days ago.
> > They said it was an engine problem that caused the pilot to put it
> > down...he wasn't hurt. Anybody near there know what kind of engine
> > problem, and what kind of engine?
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> > Jabiru 2200, 593hrs
> > Sensenich 62x46
> > flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> > system;
> > also building a new pair of snow skis
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> &====================
> >
> >
> >
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Trailering a Kitfox |
I trailered my Kitfox about 300 miles. When folded the wings back out, I
noticed that from the flaperon vibrating on the horizontal stabilizer in the
folded position, it wore the aerothane off clear to the fabric. Any
suggestions on how to alleviate this in the future?
Also, what about keeping the inside of the Kitfox dry while trailering? I
had a tarp on it, but it still got wet in the cockpit as I trailered. And
the tarp wore some of the paint as well.
Thanks,
Kirk
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| Subject: | Re: Any Arctic Sparrow users out there? |
Tom,
Good links, thanks for the help.
--------
Cory
N903DB
Kitfox Model II, Rotax 582
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| Subject: | Trailering a Kitfox |
I keep my aircraft at home and trailer it to the airport all the time. I ha
ve a foam piece on each flaperon to keep it from rubbing. Keep them in the
wing lockers and use velcro to quick fasten it in place. I use wing suppo
rts also.
Clint Kitfox IV 1400 hours.
st@matronics.comSubject: Kitfox-List: Trailering a Kitfox
I trailered my Kitfox about 300 miles. When folded the wings back out=2C I
noticed that from the flaperon vibrating on the horizontal stabilizer in th
e folded position=2C it wore the aerothane off clear to the fabric. Any sug
gestions on how to alleviate this in the future?
Also=2C what about keeping the inside of the Kitfox dry while trailering? I
had a tarp on it=2C but it still got wet in the cockpit as I trailered. An
d the tarp wore some of the paint as well.
Thanks=2C
Kirk
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kitfox |
I trailered my Kitfox about 1200 miles from the Minneapolis, MN area to Corning,
NY. About 20 miles into the trip the first day I noticed that this was going
to be a problem. The rudder wanted to slap around on the flaperons. I pulled
into a K-Mart and boughth a $3 bath towel, and a roll of duct tape. I taped
the towel around the rudder, and it made a nice soft cussion between the rudder
and flaperons. It sayed on the full 1200 mile trip. There was one small
spot that was not covered, that I had to touch up the paint on. It reduced the
flapping of the rudder as well.
Not a pretty, nor permanent fix, but for the occasional trailering, it works fine.
Andrew
Kitfox II, 815TL, Rotax 582-C
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kitfox |
Rubbing on the *horizontal stab*? Mine doesn't even come close. I got
the trailer-towing pad from Skystar just before they went belly-up,
but it doesn't protect the horizontal, just the vertical. Do you have
the standoffs that keep the wing from going back too far? And do you
have the wing support brackets that go from the front spar down to
the lower fuselage bracket?
To keep it dry, you have to use plastic film and about a roll of duct
tape! Well, maybe not a whole roll. A tarp won't do much good unless
it is taped down everywhere. I think a tarp is too heavy, and when it
gets to oscillating in the wind, it's gonna beat the crap out of the
paint, but I guess you found that out.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 3, 2008, at 1:47 PM, Kitfoxkirk wrote:
> I trailered my Kitfox about 300 miles. When folded the wings back
> out, I noticed that from the flaperon vibrating on the horizontal
> stabilizer in the folded position, it wore the aerothane off clear
> to the fabric. Any suggestions on how to alleviate this in the future?
>
> Also, what about keeping the inside of the Kitfox dry while
> trailering? I had a tarp on it, but it still got wet in the cockpit
> as I trailered. And the tarp wore some of the paint as well.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Kirk
> ===========================================================
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kitfox |
Kirk,
-
I use a piece of scrap carpet, about 10" wide, cut to slip over the vertica
l stab and sewn together fuzzy side in. I only tow about 6 miles to the air
port-and haven't really had any issues with wear on the horizontal stab.
Can't think off-hand how that would even rub on the flapperons. Trailing ed
ge of the elevator, maybe, but only if it's secured for travel in- full-u
p position.
-
As for water, even with an expensive custom made, padded cover there is alw
ays going to be some leakage IMO. Water under pressure will go anywhere pre
ssure is lower, which generally, is precisely where you don't want it to go
.
-
Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1
--- On Wed, 12/3/08, Kitfoxkirk <aviateer@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Kitfoxkirk <aviateer@gmail.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Trailering a Kitfox
I trailered my Kitfox about 300 miles. When folded the wings back out, I no
ticed that from the flaperon vibrating on the horizontal stabilizer in the
folded position, it wore the aerothane off clear to the fabric. Any suggest
ions on how to alleviate this in the future?
-
Also, what about keeping the inside of the Kitfox dry while trailering? I h
ad a tarp on it, but it still got wet in the cockpit as I trailered. And th
e tarp wore some of the paint as well.
-
-
Thanks,
-
-
Kirk
=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Trailering a Kitfox |
Using the duct tape ONLY on the plastic film or tarp, never on the paint,
right Lynn? Duct tape and aerothane like to stick together, and stay
together. I found that out when I repainted my plane, and that was the
low-sticky painter's tape too.
A small tarp with eyelets and bungees wrapped around the belly works well
without leaving any marks, if you can find the right size/shape tarp.
I fold and trailer mine all the time - and I find a double-thick U-shaped
hunk of black Duct tape right where the flaperons rub (yes on the vertical
stabiliser) works as a permanent solution. I strap the wings together to
keep them tight, once wing-to-wing and once to the trailer for redundancy.
Since I trailer it backwards having a wing unfold at speed is my worst
nightmare!
Bob Brennan - N717GB
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: 03 December 2008 2:51 pm
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Trailering a Kitfox
Rubbing on the *horizontal stab*? Mine doesn't even come close. I got
the trailer-towing pad from Skystar just before they went belly-up,
but it doesn't protect the horizontal, just the vertical. Do you have
the standoffs that keep the wing from going back too far? And do you
have the wing support brackets that go from the front spar down to
the lower fuselage bracket?
To keep it dry, you have to use plastic film and about a roll of duct
tape! Well, maybe not a whole roll. A tarp won't do much good unless
it is taped down everywhere. I think a tarp is too heavy, and when it
gets to oscillating in the wind, it's gonna beat the crap out of the
paint, but I guess you found that out.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 3, 2008, at 1:47 PM, Kitfoxkirk wrote:
> I trailered my Kitfox about 300 miles. When folded the wings back
> out, I noticed that from the flaperon vibrating on the horizontal
> stabilizer in the folded position, it wore the aerothane off clear
> to the fabric. Any suggestions on how to alleviate this in the future?
>
> Also, what about keeping the inside of the Kitfox dry while
> trailering? I had a tarp on it, but it still got wet in the cockpit
> as I trailered. And the tarp wore some of the paint as well.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Kirk
> ===========================================================
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kitfox |
Actually, I used duct tape right on the Poly-Fiber paint. I have had
it pull some paint like when I tape over a bunch of air leaks getting
the plane ready for winter, but very little. Of course, there is duct
tape and there is duct tape....that stuff varies all over the place
as far as quality goes, but yes, you should try to avoid taping right
onto the paint if you can. The thing you gotta ask yourself is "do I
feel lucky?" Well, do ya......ooops, sorry I got carried away.
Whatever you do, DON'T use Gorilla Tape...that stuff is amazing, and
sticks so good you will have Trouble getting it off the roll...and
that's Trouble with a capital "T" and that rhymes with "P" and that
stands for.....damn, why can't I get those movies out of my head!? : )
Anyway, back to reality, you're probably better off laying the tape
down sticky side out, around the fuselage, and then pressing the
plastic film/tarp onto it. It might not be as good a seal, but you
wouldn't pull any...or much...paint off.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 3, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Bob Brennan wrote:
> <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
>
> Using the duct tape ONLY on the plastic film or tarp, never on the
> paint,
> right Lynn? Duct tape and aerothane like to stick together, and stay
> together. I found that out when I repainted my plane, and that was the
> low-sticky painter's tape too.
>
> A small tarp with eyelets and bungees wrapped around the belly
> works well
> without leaving any marks, if you can find the right size/shape tarp.
>
> I fold and trailer mine all the time - and I find a double-thick U-
> shaped
> hunk of black Duct tape right where the flaperons rub (yes on the
> vertical
> stabiliser) works as a permanent solution. I strap the wings
> together to
> keep them tight, once wing-to-wing and once to the trailer for
> redundancy.
> Since I trailer it backwards having a wing unfold at speed is my worst
> nightmare!
>
> Bob Brennan - N717GB
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| Subject: | Trailering a Kitfox |
Kirk,
We have a Tow package that includes the tail pad and wing
support braces for the leading edge. Wing hold backs if needed are also
available.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
Ph 208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kitfoxkirk
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:48 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Trailering a Kitfox
I trailered my Kitfox about 300 miles. When folded the wings back out, I
noticed that from the flaperon vibrating on the horizontal stabilizer in the
folded position, it wore the aerothane off clear to the fabric. Any
suggestions on how to alleviate this in the future?
Also, what about keeping the inside of the Kitfox dry while trailering? I
had a tarp on it, but it still got wet in the cockpit as I trailered. And
the tarp wore some of the paint as well.
Thanks,
Kirk
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| Subject: | Re: New Flying Video - Enjoy !!! |
On Tue, December 2, 2008 11:23 pm, JetPilot wrote:
>
> Here is a video from flying last month. The quality of the video is good, but
it will
> be horrible unless you go to to the you tube page, and click the blue " Watch
In High
> Quality " at the bottom right of the video.
That must be a function of your browser. In Firefox both were excellent and I didn't
see much difference if any.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SrTr51BBTk
I enjoyed that video a lot. What tools did you use to add the sound, annotate and
convert to Flash video format?
--
Paul A. Franz
Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
425.241.1618 Cell
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| Subject: | Kitfox mishap in Colorado |
Some, not all aircraft are certified to carry either 10% or more commonly
100lb more if they are on floats. The thinking here is at cruise speed the
floats passing through the air fly themselves removing the excess weight
from the plane's structure. I'm not saying this is the case but I can say
for sure my 'Fox on Aerocet 1100s doesn't slip very well. I think that
specification has to be made when the plane is first registered.
BTW the extra pork on that plane hasn't gone unnoticed... I had a reference
to it offlist.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kitfoxkirk
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox mishap in Colorado
How is it that the gross weight was increased by 10%? I asked about this
several years ago when I wanted to place my C IV on floats, and received
mixed answers.
Thanks,
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| Subject: | Kitfox mishap in Colorado |
On Wed, December 3, 2008 9:33 am, Clint Bazzill wrote:
>
> Boy, that is one obese Model IV. Even without Grove gear.
Did you see the details of the plane on his web page? the thing was loaded! Fancy
panel and some other heavy stuff like a huge oil tank which I haven't seen before.
That was a pretty nice airplane. Not final paint. For the money he paid for the
engine
and prop at the time, I think another engine choice such as the 912 would have
made
more sense since the useful load is a little limiting.
As to the 10%, I think that is speculation that the plane can be over gross by
that
amount in smooth air. Probably nothing official and definitely not recommended.
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Paul A. Franz
Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
425.241.1618 Cell
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| Subject: | Re: Importing Kit fox to Canada. |
Hi Simon;
You can import a finished Kitfox into Canada provided it has at least 100 hrs flying
time on it. If the kit is not finished it should be at the pre cover stage.
As for flying an aircraft with an N number in Canada, it is legal to fly
providing you have insurance etc. however if the aircraft is here more than
6 months (I believe) you must register it and, if necessary pay duty and tax.
If any other "Canuck" Kitfox folks can expand on this I'd appreciate it.
Cheers
Ken Potter
Lanark, Ontario
Kitfox II No. 483
Rotax 583 C Box
98 % complete
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Ken Potter
Model II, No. 483
Rotax 582, C-Box,
98% Complete
G-FJKP (marks reserved)
Lanark, Ontario
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox mishap in Colorado |
Ya don't suppose they weighed it with the (pictured) pilot aboard, do
ya? : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
do not archive
On Dec 3, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
> Some, not all aircraft are certified to carry either 10% or more
> commonly 100lb more if they are on floats. The thinking here is at
> cruise speed the floats passing through the air fly themselves
> removing the excess weight from the planes structure. Im not
> saying this is the case but I can say for sure my Fox on Aerocet
> 1100s doesnt slip very well. I think that specification has to
> be made when the plane is first registered.
>
> BTW the extra pork on that plane hasnt gone unnoticed... I had a
> reference to it offlist.
>
> Noel
>
>
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kitfoxkirk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:37 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox mishap in Colorado
>
>
> How is it that the gross weight was increased by 10%? I asked about
> this several years ago when I wanted to place my C IV on floats,
> and received mixed answers.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Flying Video - Enjoy !!! |
Mike;
Beautifull video. As someone once said to me, low and slow is more fun than you
can have without taking your clothes off.
Question, whose music was it that you used?? I loved it.
Cheers
Ken Potter
Lanark, Ontario
Kitfox II No. 483
Rotax 582, C Box
98 % finished
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Ken Potter
Model II, No. 483
Rotax 582, C-Box,
98% Complete
G-FJKP (marks reserved)
Lanark, Ontario
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| Subject: | Re: New Flying Video - Enjoy !!! |
Ken Potter wrote:
>
> As someone once said to me, low and slow is more fun than you can have without
taking your clothes off.
>
He got it almost right, I remember flights I have done more than I remember the
times I have taken my cloths off ! And I cant share videos of the latter, so
I think the flying wins [Wink]
The program I edit with is Pinnacle Video Studio. I have tried most of them, and
Pinnacle beats them all. Its very powerful, does almost anything, and most
importantly its very intuitive and easy to use. I also have adobe, but it takes
me days to figure out how to use each feature of that program, I could take
a course on that one and still not be able to do what I want with it.... [Evil
or Very Mad]
The Music is Ricardo Monetner - Castillo Azul
Andre Bocelli - Vivo por ella
RBD Rebelde - Salvame
I really love the videos, I go on youtube and watch every Kitfox, and other video
that I can find. This was version 1.0 in High Definition for me, the next
ones will be better ! To see it in High Def, go to:
http://www.vimeo.com/2368367
You can download thoriginalal file on the very bottom right of the video om Vimeo.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kitfox |
I noticed that from the flaperon vibrating on the horizontal stabilizer in the
folded position, it wore the aerothane off clear to the fabric. Any suggestions
on how to alleviate this in the future?
Kirk, is it a speedster? They have little or no wing dihedral. That can cause
the flaperons to be close or touch the horizontal stab. If you have the electric
trim, be sure to trim nose up (leading edge of horizontal stab down) before
swinging the wings back.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kitfox |
I bought a foam "noodle" that is normally used in a swimming pool, cut it in half,
making 2 pieces about 3' long. Then I cut a slit lengthwise in each piece.
when the wings are folded aft, the trailing edge of the flapperons are up,
and I just slip the foam over the trailing edge where they would contact the rudder/vert
stab. Velcro is used to hold the wings together.
I also discovered the need for this after my first 20 mile trip. Since then I
have trailered mine for thousands of miles. I did make a support for the front
spar, I drain the fuel, and I have the rods that attach the wings to tail.
Louie
Model 3 912ul
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kitfox |
Kirk,
Like Louie said, I too use the swimming noodles, wal-mart etc., slit in half.
But I the whole length on each wing held onto the flaperons with small bungies.
I use a smaller piece of noodle on the trailing edge of the rudder. I haven't
gotten around to using something like the noodles on the gust locks for the
horizontal and elevator. When the noodles all come together when the wings
are folded, it tends to limit any flapping. Also like others have said it's best
to use the supports for the front spar and the standoffs. Good luck with
the weatherproofing.
Jack
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J. Henry Hall
Kitfox II, 582, Tundra Tires,
rusty pilot.
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