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1. 06:39 AM - Re: sight glass fuel indicator? (Tom Jones)
2. 08:12 AM - Cold weather starting (Randy Daughenbaugh)
3. 08:18 AM - Re: Kitfox mishap in Colorado (lowflyer)
4. 08:35 AM - Re: Cold weather starting (Lowell Fitt)
5. 09:31 AM - Kitfox Aircraft - Parts Catalog (jdmcbean)
6. 09:42 AM - Re: first flight on skis this year (Noel Loveys)
7. 09:46 AM - Re: Re: sight glass fuel indicator? (Noel Loveys)
8. 09:55 AM - Re: Kitfox Aircraft - Parts Catalog (Bob Brennan)
9. 10:14 AM - Re: Kitfox Aircraft - Parts Catalog (jdmcbean)
10. 10:25 AM - Re: first flight on skis this year (Lynn Matteson)
11. 10:37 AM - Re: Re: first flight on skis this year (Lynn Matteson)
12. 10:55 AM - Re: Acrylic Drill Bits (Lynn Matteson)
13. 11:12 AM - Re: Cold weather starting (Guy Buchanan)
14. 12:51 PM - Re: Acrylic Drill Bits (akflyer)
15. 01:01 PM - Re: Acrylic Drill Bits (n85ae)
16. 01:07 PM - Re: Cold weather starting (n85ae)
17. 01:33 PM - FW: Re: Kitfox mishap in Colorado (Rick)
18. 01:36 PM - Re: Re: first flight on skis this year (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
19. 01:41 PM - Re: Acrylic Drill Bits (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
20. 01:46 PM - Re: Re: Acrylic Drill Bits (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
21. 02:42 PM - Re: first flight on skis this year (Lynn Matteson)
22. 02:50 PM - Re: Re: first flight on skis this year (Lynn Matteson)
23. 03:01 PM - Re: Re: first flight on skis this year (patrick reilly)
24. 03:31 PM - Re: Cold weather starting (Lynn Matteson)
25. 03:38 PM - Re: Re: first flight on skis this year (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
26. 03:53 PM - Re: Cold weather starting (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
27. 04:06 PM - Re: Re: first flight on skis this year (Lynn Matteson)
28. 04:16 PM - Re: Cold weather starting (Lynn Matteson)
29. 04:16 PM - Re: Cold weather starting (Pete Christensen)
30. 04:53 PM - Re: Cold weather starting (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
31. 05:13 PM - Re: Kitfox Aircraft - Parts Catalog (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
32. 05:40 PM - Re: Kitfox Aircraft - Parts Catalog (Weiss Richard)
33. 06:39 PM - Re: Cold weather starting (patrick reilly)
34. 06:53 PM - Re: Cold weather starting (Sbennett3@aol.com)
35. 11:31 PM - Re: Cold weather starting (Jim Crowder)
36. 11:31 PM - Re: Cold weather starting (Jim Crowder)
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| Subject: | Re: sight glass fuel indicator? |
[quote="jconnell(at)fmwildblue.co"]Guys,
A number of comments on this topic indicated a number of Kitfoxes did not have
fuel quantity indicators for their wing tanks. I didn't think it was possible
to get an air worthiness certificate if each fuel tank did not have some
sort of fuel quantity indicator.
Joe Connell
Kitfox-II, 582 C-Drive, Warp Drive Prop
> [b]
Not many realize it but there is no requirement for any insturmentation in an experimental
airplane for Daytime VFR. Heres a list of required equipment.
http://www.rainierultralightengines.com/forms/Minimum_Inst_Requirements.pdf
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Cold weather starting |
At our local EAA chapter (37) meeting last night a local A&P said we really
need to heat everything - not just heads or oil or cylinders but EVERYTHING!
- when we fire up the engine in cold weather. He singled out the Rotax 900
series engines because of their very tight fit compared to Continentals or
Lycomings. He said that even if you turn the engine over by hand at 10 F or
lower temps, you will be scraping some metal off and starting the end of the
engine.
I have never worried about this. If it is not windy, I fly without regard
to the temperatures. Am I destroying my 912S by starting it cold?
Randy - flew yesterday in teens and low 20's F - over Mount Rushmore
Series 5/7 912S Warpdrive taper tip
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox mishap in Colorado |
Has anyone ever thought that maybe the builder of this aircraft has engineered
the aircraft to accepted the increase in load? Maybe additional cross members
on the frame, heavy duty gear, larger struts, etc, etc...
I understand as a builder of a kit you have the freedom to change things. The manufacturer
of the kit has set some guidelines as to what specs they have tested
the kit to. If you want to go beyond these limits you can but you need to understand
the implications associated with the increases. If you account for the
increase in weight appropriately with additional modifications then you should
be okay.
No one really knows why the increase was there and if it was accounted for by additional
engineering and modifications.
Just a thought.
Chris Budd
N53RJ
Model IV Speedster
76hp 2180 VW, 230hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather starting |
Randy,
I know nothing for sure except the Rotax engine is manufactured in Austria,
not Florida or Brazil. I think it also gets cold in Austria. With the
volume of service bulletins and letters published by Rotax, I suspect that
if it was an issue we would have heard of it by now.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:11 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Cold weather starting
> At our local EAA chapter (37) meeting last night a local A&P said we
> really
> need to heat everything - not just heads or oil or cylinders but
> EVERYTHING!
> - when we fire up the engine in cold weather. He singled out the Rotax
> 900
> series engines because of their very tight fit compared to Continentals or
> Lycomings. He said that even if you turn the engine over by hand at 10 F
> or
> lower temps, you will be scraping some metal off and starting the end of
> the
> engine.
>
> I have never worried about this. If it is not windy, I fly without regard
> to the temperatures. Am I destroying my 912S by starting it cold?
>
> Randy - flew yesterday in teens and low 20's F - over Mount Rushmore
>
> Series 5/7 912S Warpdrive taper tip
>
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| Subject: | Kitfox Aircraft - Parts Catalog |
Good Morning !
The Parts & Accessory Catalog is available !! Been a long time in the
works and it is now posted on our web www.kitfoxaircraft.com
As you all know the catalog will be a growing document that will be updated
fairly frequently.. initially as we find typos and again as we add product.
Remember if you don't see it, drop us an email or give us a call.
Thank you for your support and being part of the Kitfox family !
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
Ph 208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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| Subject: | first flight on skis this year |
Lynn I think you will have to have some floatation behind the wheel and a
lanyard to stop the ski tips form coming up too far on landing.
Have you considered letting a bit of air out of your tires and putting a
sheet of aluminium under the wheel and then pumping the tire up again to
hold the plate in place... That will increase your floatation in snow. You
only have to land on a pond or river to remove the plates before landing on
a paved runway again.
If you have ever seen a set of hydraulic convertible skis that is the same
thing without the expense... or convenience.
Noel
Noel Loveys
AME Intern, RPP
Kitfox III-A,
Aerocet 1100 floats
Newfoundland, Canada
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: first flight on skis this year
Hey, Jim, what size are your skis? The ones I'm building are going to
be about 600 sq. inches for each ski, unless somebody talks me out of
that large a size. My present skis are about 470 sq. inches. I'm
building these so that the wheel doesn't penetrate so far and cause
so much drag. I'm also making them so that no lifting of the plane is
necessary to install, and no ski area right behind the wheel so no
"cheese slicer" action will take place. I'm hoping this design will
allow for less drag, and more staying on top of the snow, instead of
submarining below it. Mine will be 4130 tubing with plywood bottoms
and nylon-ish wear bars. Eventually I'm going to make some fiberglass
tops to enclose the tubing and provide a smooth upper surface so the
snow won't accumulate there. That will be a vacuum bagging operation,
which I'm also going to build and learn on.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 9, 2008, at 5:55 PM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:
> Hi all, well I put new skis on the plane yesterday, finished the
> bungees for them today. We have about 6" of snow on the ground
> with more on the way so I taxied a bit, and then poured the coals
> to it and commited aviation. I love flying in the winter! Landed
> at a local lake, couldn't tell when I was on the ground (lake) it
> was so smooooooth. Of course no one there to see it! Had to get
> back to help the wife start supper as she wasn't feeling very good
> so had just a 40 minute flight, but it was nice. Temps were about
> +8 F but the heater helped and I was fine. Take care all, Jim
> Chuk Avid MK IV Jabiru northern Mn
> Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. Get your HotmailR account
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| Subject: | Re: sight glass fuel indicator? |
Our requirements are for 30 min reserve for daytime VFR and 45 min for
night... Because of the rough territory I like to see at least 45 min of
fuel in my tanks when I land. If I'm going to make a mistake I'd sooner
make that mistake on the side of safety
Remember:
1. Fuel is flight time
2. The only time you have too much fuel is when you are on fire.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of WurlyBird
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:13 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: sight glass fuel indicator?
<james.t.trizzino@us.army.mil>
This might seem petty, but all of you who are using the header tank as a low
fuel indicator might be pressing your luck it seems. VFR minimum reserve is
20 minutes for planning purposes. You should always arrive with 20 minutes
of fuel in your tank, not shortly after the 15 minute light comes on. So if
you fly to another airport and anywhere in the flight start having these
fuel concerns then that is proof of a very bad planning process, and god
forbid anything happen I would call that a contributing factor. But I guess
you could plan on always hanging out within 5-10 minutes of fuel and that is
a pretty small playground.
I really don't care how much trouble it is to get sight glasses installed,
to me it only makes sense. Again I really appreciate all the info, thanks
for the help guys. :D
--------
Prospective Kitfox buyer
Here for information on airframes and engines
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218575#218575
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| Subject: | Kitfox Aircraft - Parts Catalog |
You got me all excited there John, but all I get at
http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/Product_Catalog/KApartscat-rev12708.pdf
is "The page cannot be found"
Is it just me?
Bob Brennan - N717GB
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Sent: 10 December 2008 12:29 pm
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Aircraft - Parts Catalog
Good Morning !
The Parts & Accessory Catalog is available !! Been a long time in the
works and it is now posted on our web www.kitfoxaircraft.com
As you all know the catalog will be a growing document that will be updated
fairly frequently.. initially as we find typos and again as we add product.
Remember if you don't see it, drop us an email or give us a call.
Thank you for your support and being part of the Kitfox family !
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
Ph 208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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| Subject: | Kitfox Aircraft - Parts Catalog |
Got it.. the link was incorrect.. should be fixed...
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
Ph 208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Aircraft - Parts Catalog
--> <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
You got me all excited there John, but all I get at
http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/Product_Catalog/KApartscat-rev12708.pdf
is "The page cannot be found"
Is it just me?
Bob Brennan - N717GB
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Sent: 10 December 2008 12:29 pm
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Aircraft - Parts Catalog
--> <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
Good Morning !
The Parts & Accessory Catalog is available !! Been a long time in the
works and it is now posted on our web www.kitfoxaircraft.com
As you all know the catalog will be a growing document that will be updated
fairly frequently.. initially as we find typos and again as we add product.
Remember if you don't see it, drop us an email or give us a call.
Thank you for your support and being part of the Kitfox family !
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
Ph 208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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| Subject: | Re: first flight on skis this year |
Thanks, Jim. So you have 540 sq. in, minus whatever curves up on each
end if any. My proposed set is going to be about 600 sq. in., most of
which will be flat, with some of it curving up at the front and
back...a bit at the back to facilitate pulling it back into the
hangar. I shot a picture of some Federal (now Wipair) skis at Oshkosh
this year, and they had a pretty wide area in front of the wheel.
Those skis were hydraulically operated to reposition the ski in
relation to the wheel. I'm not going for the reposition aspect, but I
do want the larger area. I got almost hung up in 9" of snow last
year, and I'm hoping that the larger area will prevent that. Mine are
now tubing with UHMW bottoms, and the new ones will be plywood
bottoms, with two 4" wide UHMW "wear bars". I did a test of bending
and gluing together two layers of Okoume plywood, and that came out
well. Next is a test of applying some fiberglass to enclose the
plywood, which needs sealing and protecting from the weather. If I
can stand on the bent section and jump up and down on it, and it
holds, I'll progress to actually making the ski bottoms, then weld up
the framework of 4130. If the ply fails, I'll just use UHMW all the
way with the tubing frames, and test that. The difference between the
old skis and the new design will then be the lesser wheel penetration
and the wider area, and the elimination of the "cheese slicer" area
behind the wheel. I really need the wheels to stay on the plane to
facilitate ground handling when the snows down south here (Lower
Michigan, near Ohio) don't materialize, and for getting the plane in
and out of the hangar. I need/want to be able to fly into grass and
paved landing strips, and that is the reason for the wheel penetration.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 10, 2008, at 12:33 AM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:
> Hi Lynn, my skis are 9" wide and 60" long. They are just straight
> skis, not wheel penetration skis. I built them out of aluminum and
> the bottoms are 3/16" UHMW plastic. I think they weigh about 10
> or 12 lbs each. Take care, Jim Chuk Avid Mk IV Jabiru Mn
>
> > From: lynnmatt@jps.net
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: first flight on skis this year
> > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:34:22 -0500
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> > Hey, Jim, what size are your skis? The ones I'm building are
> going to
> > be about 600 sq. inches for each ski, unless somebody talks me
> out of
> > that large a size. My present skis are about 470 sq. inches. I'm
> > building these so that the wheel doesn't penetrate so far and cause
> > so much drag. I'm also making them so that no lifting of the
> plane is
> > necessary to install, and no ski area right behind the wheel so no
> > "cheese slicer" action will take place. I'm hoping this design will
> > allow for less drag, and more staying on top of the snow, instead of
> > submarining below it. Mine will be 4130 tubing with plywood bottoms
> > and nylon-ish wear bars. Eventually I'm going to make some
> fiberglass
> > tops to enclose the tubing and provide a smooth upper surface so the
> > snow won't accumulate there. That will be a vacuum bagging
> operation,
> > which I'm also going to build and learn on.
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
> > Sensenich 62x46
> > flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> > system;
> > also building a new pair of snow skis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 9, 2008, at 5:55 PM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all, well I put new skis on the plane yesterday, finished the
> > > bungees for them today. We have about 6" of snow on the ground
> > > with more on the way so I taxied a bit, and then poured the coals
> > > to it and commited aviation. I love flying in the winter! Landed
> > > at a local lake, couldn't tell when I was on the ground (lake) it
> > > was so smooooooth. Of course no one there to see it! Had to get
> > > back to help the wife start supper as she wasn't feeling very good
> > > so had just a 40 minute flight, but it was nice. Temps were about
> > > +8 F but the heater helped and I was fine. Take care all, Jim
> > > Chuk Avid MK IV Jabiru northern Mn
> > > Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. Get your Hotmail
> account
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: first flight on skis this year |
That's my thinking too, Leonard. And if we get enough ski hanging out
there it might just add some lift, if it was shaped aerodynamically
enough. Of course, if we get TOO much area, it might convert to
friction on the snow, and that would not be good. It sounds like from
what I've found so far that there's a happy medium. I'm presently
looking for an article by a Canadian gent, and or the National
Research Council of Canada, who wrote a paper or book or something
about 'the effect of snow on aircraft skis'. I googled the subject,
and Amazon.com is looking for that info after I queried them.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 9, 2008, at 9:41 PM, akflyer wrote:
>
> Mine are 13.5 X 60... 810 squares. In deep powder you want all you
> can get!
>
> I got mine installed a few days ago, but 40 mph winds and heavy
> freezing fog kept me grounded for the last few days. Now it is off
> to work so it will be a couple weeks before I get to try them out.
>
> --------
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
> Leonard Perry
> Soldotna AK
> Avid "C" / Mk IV
> 582 IVO IFA
> Full Lotus 1260
> As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis
> takes over.
>
> hander outer of humorless darwin awards
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218585#218585
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Acrylic Drill Bits |
I just checked mine, Gary, and the included angle is 54=B0...pretty
steep compared to the normal 118=B0 angle of a drill bit for steel.
Also, the cutting edge needs to be flattened so that it does not cut
into the material, but scrapes it instead. Here are a couple of
pictures of the ones I got from LP Aeroplastics.
Lynn
On Dec 10, 2008, at 12:47 AM, gary.algate@sandvik.com wrote:
>
> Are there any list members in Australia who know where I could
> purchased drill bits for drilling acrylic.
>
> I have decided to bite the bullet and fit my LP Aero windscreen but
> can't find the bits that I ordered for the job and nobody here in
> Adelaide seems to know of the special bit angle required.
>
> Regards
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
> Classic 4 Jab 2200
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather starting |
At 08:11 AM 12/10/2008, you wrote:
>He singled out the Rotax 900 series engines because of their very
>tight fit compared to Continentals or Lycomings. He said that even
>if you turn the engine over by hand at 10 F or lower temps, you will
>be scraping some metal off and starting the end of the engine.
YES! Yet another reason to run the mighty 582: It's a snowmobile
engine! It doesn't care HOW cold it is. (Well, up to a point, I'm sure.)
Sorry, I always get a little delirious around the Holidays. ;-)
Happy Holidays,
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Acrylic Drill Bits |
have you checked the local sign shop? Most of them deal with plastics for signs
and should have a bit or a supplier for them.... Just a thought
--------
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over.
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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| Subject: | Re: Acrylic Drill Bits |
A common step drill works just as well as the LP Aero acrylic bits
in my experience. I have drilled a lot of acrylic with it, and never
had any problems.
I do have a set of the LP Aero bits, but I don't think they offer any
advantage over the step drill.
Regards,
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather starting |
I bought a small space heater, hooked up a 4" diameter flex dryer
hose to it. Stick it in the oil cooler door, and let it run for an hour before
flying. During the really cold part of the year, I toss a blanket over
the cowl, and leave it run 24x7
Last week, I had to preheat my panel as well, because my AI would
not spin up level, and had a serious case of the leans until it got warm.
My IO-240B is VERY hard to crank when the temp gets down below
30F, however with the little space heater keeping it warm, it cranks as
easily as summertime.
Regards,
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox mishap in Colorado |
Sounds great. Now some one out there post their modifications and
testing to verify the increased limits.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lowflyer
Sent: 2008-12-10 08:18
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox mishap in Colorado
Has anyone ever thought that maybe the builder of this aircraft has
engineered the aircraft to accepted the increase in load? Maybe
additional cross members on the frame, heavy duty gear, larger struts,
etc, etc...
I understand as a builder of a kit you have the freedom to change
things. The manufacturer of the kit has set some guidelines as to what
specs they have tested the kit to. If you want to go beyond these limits
you can but you need to understand the implications associated with the
increases. If you account for the increase in weight appropriately with
additional modifications then you should be okay.
No one really knows why the increase was there and if it was accounted
for by additional engineering and modifications.
Just a thought.
Chris Budd
N53RJ
Model IV Speedster
76hp 2180 VW, 230hrs
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| Subject: | Re: first flight on skis this year |
Lynn'
if you really want to get fancy take a look at the wheel skis that the
Canadian Challenger dealers are offering for the Challengers. They have a
small electric/hydraulic cylinder that moves the ski back and forward.
This allows the wheel to actually rid up on top of the ski when landing on
snow and then when the skis moved back it drops down to penetrate the ski.
Drop down is really the wrong term as it just basically compresses the
tire as it moves back and forward.
Neat set up, and the little electric pump is actually integral in each
cylinder
Gary
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That's my thinking too, Leonard. And if we get enough ski hanging out
there it might just add some lift, if it was shaped aerodynamically
enough. Of course, if we get TOO much area, it might convert to
friction on the snow, and that would not be good. It sounds like from
what I've found so far that there's a happy medium. I'm presently
looking for an article by a Canadian gent, and or the National
Research Council of Canada, who wrote a paper or book or something
about 'the effect of snow on aircraft skis'. I googled the subject,
and Amazon.com is looking for that info after I queried them.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 9, 2008, at 9:41 PM, akflyer wrote:
>
> Mine are 13.5 X 60... 810 squares. In deep powder you want all you
> can get!
>
> I got mine installed a few days ago, but 40 mph winds and heavy
> freezing fog kept me grounded for the last few days. Now it is off
> to work so it will be a couple weeks before I get to try them out.
>
> --------
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
> Leonard Perry
> Soldotna AK
> Avid "C" / Mk IV
> 582 IVO IFA
> Full Lotus 1260
> As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis
> takes over.
>
> hander outer of humorless darwin awards
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218585#218585
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Thanks Leonard - I'll give them a try
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: first flight on skis this year |
Hi Noel-
The proposed design for the skis I'm building has a 6" wide section
of ski running parallel to the wheel for the full length of the
ski...about 60"...but not right behind the ski. So yes, there is ski
to the rear of the wheel, just not right BEHIND the wheel. It is just
like the Federal.Wipair hydraulic-repositional wheel-penetration ski
that I saw at Oshkosh. And of course I have not only one, but two
1/8" safety cables(redundancy)......that prevent the ski from tipping
up beyond 5 at the front of the ski, per the ski rigging
instructions at the rear of 43.13-2A (Advisory Circular) which I'm
sure you are all familiar with. These safety cables also prevent the
ski from tipping up too far during flight. I have thought of the
plate that slips under the wheel, but this is not a good safety
measure if you consider needing to land at a dry paved strip under
emergency conditions. And around here with the lakes not frozen over
yet, that type of emergency landing (the frozen river or pond) is out
of the question at this point. I feel that I need the wheel to be
operational at all times for the conditions that I fly in. That type
of operation...the sliding plate...is only safe if you are flying in
totally frozen conditions.
I will also utilize two restraint cables and two bungies at the
front...redundancy again (and to please my mentor/flight
instructor)...including crust-cutters so that the bungies don't get
within 8-12" of the nose of the ski, as pointed out in 43.13. I
already have these features installed on my present skis.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
do not archive
On Dec 10, 2008, at 12:42 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
>
> Lynn I think you will have to have some floatation behind the wheel
> and a
> lanyard to stop the ski tips form coming up too far on landing.
>
> Have you considered letting a bit of air out of your tires and
> putting a
> sheet of aluminium under the wheel and then pumping the tire up
> again to
> hold the plate in place... That will increase your floatation in
> snow. You
> only have to land on a pond or river to remove the plates before
> landing on
> a paved runway again.
>
> If you have ever seen a set of hydraulic convertible skis that is
> the same
> thing without the expense... or convenience.
>
> Noel
>
>
> Noel Loveys
> AME Intern, RPP
> Kitfox III-A,
> Aerocet 1100 floats
> Newfoundland, Canada
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn
> Matteson
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:04 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: first flight on skis this year
>
>
> Hey, Jim, what size are your skis? The ones I'm building are going to
> be about 600 sq. inches for each ski, unless somebody talks me out of
> that large a size. My present skis are about 470 sq. inches. I'm
> building these so that the wheel doesn't penetrate so far and cause
> so much drag. I'm also making them so that no lifting of the plane is
> necessary to install, and no ski area right behind the wheel so no
> "cheese slicer" action will take place. I'm hoping this design will
> allow for less drag, and more staying on top of the snow, instead of
> submarining below it. Mine will be 4130 tubing with plywood bottoms
> and nylon-ish wear bars. Eventually I'm going to make some fiberglass
> tops to enclose the tubing and provide a smooth upper surface so the
> snow won't accumulate there. That will be a vacuum bagging operation,
> which I'm also going to build and learn on.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> system;
> also building a new pair of snow skis
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2008, at 5:55 PM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:
>
>> Hi all, well I put new skis on the plane yesterday, finished the
>> bungees for them today. We have about 6" of snow on the ground
>> with more on the way so I taxied a bit, and then poured the coals
>> to it and commited aviation. I love flying in the winter! Landed
>> at a local lake, couldn't tell when I was on the ground (lake) it
>> was so smooooooth. Of course no one there to see it! Had to get
>> back to help the wife start supper as she wasn't feeling very good
>> so had just a 40 minute flight, but it was nice. Temps were about
>> +8 F but the heater helped and I was fine. Take care all, Jim
>> Chuk Avid MK IV Jabiru northern Mn
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| Subject: | Re: first flight on skis this year |
Other than the expense of the hydraulic system, the "repositionable"
aspect of those skis is supposedly against the Sport Pilot
regulations. I'm sure that if I felt that was an option, I'd say
screw the rules and go that way, but I think the wheel only
penetrating by about 1/2" (new design), I'll be fine. It should be
far better than the 1-1/2" to 2" penetration that I employ now.What
you point out, Gary, is exactly the method that those Federal/
Wipair's that I saw at Oshkosh use.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 10, 2008, at 4:35 PM, gary.algate@sandvik.com wrote:
>
> Lynn'
> if you really want to get fancy take a look at the wheel skis that
> the Canadian Challenger dealers are offering for the Challengers.
> They have a small electric/hydraulic cylinder that moves the ski
> back and forward. This allows the wheel to actually rid up on top
> of the ski when landing on snow and then when the skis moved back
> it drops down to penetrate the ski.
>
> Drop down is really the wrong term as it just basically compresses
> the tire as it moves back and forward.
>
> Neat set up, and the little electric pump is actually integral in
> each cylinder
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
> SMC, Exploration
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
>
>
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> have made a contribution to UNICEF Australia. We wish you a safe
> and happy Christmas".
>
>
> Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> 11/12/2008 05:14 AM
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> Subject
> Re: Kitfox-List: Re: first flight on skis this year
>
>
>
> That's my thinking too, Leonard. And if we get enough ski hanging out
> there it might just add some lift, if it was shaped aerodynamically
> enough. Of course, if we get TOO much area, it might convert to
> friction on the snow, and that would not be good. It sounds like from
> what I've found so far that there's a happy medium. I'm presently
> looking for an article by a Canadian gent, and or the National
> Research Council of Canada, who wrote a paper or book or something
> about 'the effect of snow on aircraft skis'. I googled the subject,
> and Amazon.com is looking for that info after I queried them.
>
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> system;
> also building a new pair of snow skis
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2008, at 9:41 PM, akflyer wrote:
>
> <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Mine are 13.5 X 60... 810 squares. In deep powder you want all you
> > can get!
> >
> > I got mine installed a few days ago, but 40 mph winds and heavy
> > freezing fog kept me grounded for the last few days. Now it is off
> > to work so it will be a couple weeks before I get to try them out.
> >
> > --------
> > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> > Leonard Perry
> > Soldotna AK
> > Avid "C" / Mk IV
> > 582 IVO IFA
> > Full Lotus 1260
> > As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis
> > takes over.
> >
> > hander outer of humorless darwin awards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218585#218585
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: first flight on skis this year |
Lynn=2C What about curving the edge behind the wheel up similar to the fron
t of the ski to eliminate the "cheese cutter effect?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 rebuild
Rockford=2C IL> From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: first
flight on skis this year> Date: Wed=2C 10 Dec 2008 17:50:01 -0500> To: kit
<lynnmatt@jps.net>> > Other than the expense of the hydraulic system=2C the
"repositionable" > aspect of those skis is supposedly against the Sport Pi
lot > regulations. I'm sure that if I felt that was an option=2C I'd say >
screw the rules and go that way=2C but I think the wheel only > penetrating
by about 1/2" (new design)=2C I'll be fine. It should be > far better than
the 1-1/2" to 2" penetration that I employ now.What > you point out=2C Gar
y=2C is exactly the method that those Federal/ > Wipair's that I saw at Osh
kosh use.> > Lynn Matteson> Kitfox IV Speedster=2C taildragger> Jabiru 2200
=2C #2062=2C 593hrs> Sensenich 62x46> flying again after rebuild=2C and new
Electroair direct-fire ignition > system=3B> also building a new pair of s
now skis> > > > > On Dec 10=2C 2008=2C at 4:35 PM=2C gary.algate@sandvik.co
m wrote:> > >> > Lynn'> > if you really want to get fancy take a look at th
e wheel skis that > > the Canadian Challenger dealers are offering for the
Challengers. > > They have a small electric/hydraulic cylinder that moves t
he ski > > back and forward. This allows the wheel to actually rid up on to
p > > of the ski when landing on snow and then when the skis moved back > >
it drops down to penetrate the ski.> >> > Drop down is really the wrong te
rm as it just basically compresses > > the tire as it moves back and forwar
d.> >> > Neat set up=2C and the little electric pump is actually integral i
n > > each cylinder> >> > Gary> >> > Gary Algate> > SMC=2C Exploration> > O
ffice Phone: +61 8 8276 7655> >> >> > This e-mail is confidential and it is
intended only for the > > addressees. Any review=2C dissemination=2C distr
ibution=2C or copying of > > this message by persons or entities other than
the intended > > recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail
in error=2C > > kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and de
lete the > > message from your system. The sender does not accept liability
for > > any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may
> > arise as a result of the e-mail transmission.> > =93This year=2C instea
d of sending you a Christmas card in the mail=2C we > > have made a contrib
ution to UNICEF Australia. We wish you a safe > > and happy Christmas".> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>> > Sent by: owner-kit
fox-list-server@matronics.com> > 11/12/2008 05:14 AM> > Please respond to>
> kitfox-list@matronics.com> >> > To> > kitfox-list@matronics.com> > cc> >
Subject> > Re: Kitfox-List: Re: first flight on skis this year> >> >> >> >>
>> > That's my thinking too=2C Leonard. And if we get enough ski hanging ou
t> > there it might just add some lift=2C if it was shaped aerodynamically>
> enough. Of course=2C if we get TOO much area=2C it might convert to> > f
riction on the snow=2C and that would not be good. It sounds like from> > w
hat I've found so far that there's a happy medium. I'm presently> > looking
for an article by a Canadian gent=2C and or the National> > Research Counc
il of Canada=2C who wrote a paper or book or something> > about 'the effect
of snow on aircraft skis'. I googled the subject=2C> > and Amazon.com is l
ooking for that info after I queried them.> >> >> > Lynn Matteson> > Kitfox
IV Speedster=2C taildragger> > Jabiru 2200=2C #2062=2C 593hrs> > Sensenich
62x46> > flying again after rebuild=2C and new Electroair direct-fire igni
tion> > system=3B> > also building a new pair of snow skis> >> >> >> >> > O
n Dec 9=2C 2008=2C at 9:41 PM=2C akflyer wrote:> >> > > --> Kitfox-List mes
sage posted by: "akflyer" > > <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>> > >> > > Mine are 1
3.5 X 60... 810 squares. In deep powder you want all you> > > can get!> > >
> > > I got mine installed a few days ago=2C but 40 mph winds and heavy> >
> freezing fog kept me grounded for the last few days. Now it is off> > > t
o work so it will be a couple weeks before I get to try them out.> > >> > >
--------> > > DO NOT ARCHIVE> > > Leonard Perry> > > Soldotna AK> > > Avid
"=3BC"=3B / Mk IV> > > 582 IVO IFA> > > Full Lotus 1260> > > As do
ne as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis> > > takes over.>
> >> > > hander outer of humorless darwin awards> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >
Read this topic online here:> > >> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopi
c.php?p=218585#218585> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>
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Another reason to run a 200 watt enclosure heater under your oil pan,
and a blanket over the cowl, so that temps in the teens or any other
temp will see your engine oil at 106, and your heads at about 80-90
before you're out of bed. I do this whenever the calendar says it's
winter. When I start my engine, the oil drops to about 98, and hangs
there for awhile, then starts to climb. I taxi at this temp, but
don't go to full power until it hits 120...all temps are F. Light
bulbs are too dangerous, IMHO, and too hard to manipulate from the
bottom of the cowl.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 10, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
> At 08:11 AM 12/10/2008, you wrote:
>> He singled out the Rotax 900 series engines because of their very
>> tight fit compared to Continentals or Lycomings. He said that
>> even if you turn the engine over by hand at 10 F or lower temps,
>> you will be scraping some metal off and starting the end of the
>> engine.
>
> YES! Yet another reason to run the mighty 582: It's a snowmobile
> engine! It doesn't care HOW cold it is. (Well, up to a point, I'm
> sure.)
>
> Sorry, I always get a little delirious around the Holidays. ;-)
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
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| Subject: | Re: first flight on skis this year |
Good point Pat - on my first set of skis the trailing edge of the ski was
parallel with the main ski body. Whenever I tried to pull my plane
backwards that son of a b- - - - would just tip down and dig in. My next
set had a graceful curve at the rear and I could spin the plane or pull it
back with no problems
Gary
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Lynn, What about curving the edge behind the wheel up similar to the front
of the ski to eliminate the "cheese cutter effect?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 rebuild
Rockford, IL
> From: lynnmatt@jps.net
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: first flight on skis this year
> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:50:01 -0500
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Other than the expense of the hydraulic system, the "repositionable"
> aspect of those skis is supposedly against the Sport Pilot
> regulations. I'm sure that if I felt that was an option, I'd say
> screw the rules and go that way, but I think the wheel only
> penetrating by about 1/2" (new design), I'll be fine. It should be
> far better than the 1-1/2" to 2" penetration that I employ now.What
> you point out, Gary, is exactly the method that those Federal/
> Wipair's that I saw at Oshkosh use.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> system;
> also building a new pair of snow skis
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 10, 2008, at 4:35 PM, gary.algate@sandvik.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Lynn'
> > if you really want to get fancy take a look at the wheel skis that
> > the Canadian Challenger dealers are offering for the Challengers.
> > They have a small electric/hydraulic cylinder that moves the ski
> > back and forward. This allows the wheel to actually rid up on top
> > of the ski when landing on snow and then when the skis moved back
> > it drops down to penetrate the ski.
> >
> > Drop down is really the wrong term as it just basically compresses
> > the tire as it moves back and forward.
> >
> > Neat set up, and the little electric pump is actually integral in
> > each cylinder
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > Gary Algate
> > SMC, Exploration
> > Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
> >
> >
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> > have made a contribution to UNICEF Australia. We wish you a safe
> > and happy Christmas".
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > That's my thinking too, Leonard. And if we get enough ski hanging out
> > there it might just add some lift, if it was shaped aerodynamically
> > enough. Of course, if we get TOO much area, it might convert to
> > friction on the snow, and that would not be good. It sounds like from
> > what I've found so far that there's a happy medium. I'm presently
> > looking for an article by a Canadian gent, and or the National
> > Research Council of Canada, who wrote a paper or book or something
> > about 'the effect of snow on aircraft skis'. I googled the subject,
> > and Amazon.com is looking for that info after I queried them.
> >
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
> > Sensenich 62x46
> > flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> > system;
> > also building a new pair of snow skis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 9, 2008, at 9:41 PM, akflyer wrote:
> >
> > <akflyer=5F2000@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > Mine are 13.5 X 60... 810 squares. In deep powder you want all you
> > > can get!
> > >
> > > I got mine installed a few days ago, but 40 mph winds and heavy
> > > freezing fog kept me grounded for the last few days. Now it is off
> > > to work so it will be a couple weeks before I get to try them out.
> > >
> > > --------
> > > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> > > Leonard Perry
> > > Soldotna AK
> > > Avid "C" / Mk IV
> > > 582 IVO IFA
> > > Full Lotus 1260
> > > As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis
> > > takes over.
> > >
> > > hander outer of humorless darwin awards
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Read this topic online here:
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> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218585#218585
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather starting |
Lynn
I used a small electric forced air space heater - I used a splitter and
some of the cheap aluminum clothes dryer ducting to feed air into the two
air inlets at the front of the cowl and a blanket draped over the top of
the cowl. The air would warm the cylinders and then flow down around the
crankcase and out the bottom
I had this on a timer that came on at about 7.00am on weekends.
By the time I got to the field all of my temps (CHT and Oil) were up to
standard summer temps.
This worked down to -20 degC and my Jab 2200 started first crank every
time.
That was in N.Ontario - now in Adelaide Australia, my biggest winter
problem is finding enough ice for my drinks!
Regards
Gary
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Another reason to run a 200 watt enclosure heater under your oil pan,
and a blanket over the cowl, so that temps in the teens or any other
temp will see your engine oil at 106=B0, and your heads at about 80-90=B0
before you're out of bed. I do this whenever the calendar says it's
winter. When I start my engine, the oil drops to about 98=B0, and hangs
there for awhile, then starts to climb. I taxi at this temp, but
don't go to full power until it hits 120=B0...all temps are =B0F. Light
bulbs are too dangerous, IMHO, and too hard to manipulate from the
bottom of the cowl.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 10, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
> At 08:11 AM 12/10/2008, you wrote:
>> He singled out the Rotax 900 series engines because of their very
>> tight fit compared to Continentals or Lycomings. He said that
>> even if you turn the engine over by hand at 10 F or lower temps,
>> you will be scraping some metal off and starting the end of the
>> engine.
>
> YES! Yet another reason to run the mighty 582: It's a snowmobile
> engine! It doesn't care HOW cold it is. (Well, up to a point, I'm
> sure.)
>
> Sorry, I always get a little delirious around the Holidays. ;-)
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
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| Subject: | Re: first flight on skis this year |
That's a good idea, Pat. I hadn't thought about doing that since I
decided to just eliminate the portion of ski right behind the wheel.
Doing this serves two purposes....it eliminates the cheese cutter,
and eliminates the area that tends to collect snow...two birds, one
stone. : )
I saw a picture of a skiplane that had the rear of the ski bent up,
and I was able to do that mod on mine (like Gary said), but didn't
really think of the area right behind the wheel at that time. Even
now, I have to hook up the winch to drag mine back into the hangar
after first shoveling the snow from behind it. My new skis will have
the rear portion bent up a bit more.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 10, 2008, at 5:59 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> Lynn, What about curving the edge behind the wheel up similar to
> the front of the ski to eliminate the "cheese cutter effect?
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 rebuild
> Rockford, IL
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather starting |
I could chop some ice and send it to you, Gary...: )
Strange sight here today....a circular hole about 50 feet across in
an otherwise frozen lake near here, and surrounded by ducks, geese,
and maybe a swan or two...like they were having a tribal meeting or
something.
Another oddity...my flight instructor called me outside his hangar
(where I was working) to see a HUGE flock of geese flying over. He
asked if I knew why the one line of geese was longer than the
other...I didn't....he said that's because there were more geese in
that line....DUH!
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
do not archive
On Dec 10, 2008, at 6:52 PM, gary.algate@sandvik.com wrote:
>
> Lynn
>
> I used a small electric forced air space heater - I used a splitter
> and some of the cheap aluminum clothes dryer ducting to feed air
> into the two air inlets at the front of the cowl and a blanket
> draped over the top of the cowl. The air would warm the cylinders
> and then flow down around the crankcase and out the bottom
>
> I had this on a timer that came on at about 7.00am on weekends.
>
> By the time I got to the field all of my temps (CHT and Oil) were
> up to standard summer temps.
>
> This worked down to -20 degC and my Jab 2200 started first crank
> every time.
>
> That was in N.Ontario - now in Adelaide Australia, my biggest
> winter problem is finding enough ice for my drinks!
>
> Regards
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
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In El Paso we have to put a block of ice on the motor on a winter
morning to keep it from overheating on start up.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
From: gary.algate@sandvik.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Cold weather starting
Lynn
I used a small electric forced air space heater - I used a splitter
and some of the cheap aluminum clothes dryer ducting to feed air into
the two air inlets at the front of the cowl and a blanket draped over
the top of the cowl. The air would warm the cylinders and then flow down
around the crankcase and out the bottom
I had this on a timer that came on at about 7.00am on weekends.
By the time I got to the field all of my temps (CHT and Oil) were up
to standard summer temps.
This worked down to -20 degC and my Jab 2200 started first crank every
time.
That was in N.Ontario - now in Adelaide Australia, my biggest winter
problem is finding enough ice for my drinks!
Regards
Gary
Gary Algate
SMC, Exploration
Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
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Another reason to run a 200 watt enclosure heater under your oil pan,
and a blanket over the cowl, so that temps in the teens or any other
temp will see your engine oil at 106=B0, and your heads at about
80-90=B0
before you're out of bed. I do this whenever the calendar says it's
winter. When I start my engine, the oil drops to about 98=B0, and
hangs
there for awhile, then starts to climb. I taxi at this temp, but
don't go to full power until it hits 120=B0...all temps are =B0F.
Light
bulbs are too dangerous, IMHO, and too hard to manipulate from the
bottom of the cowl.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 10, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
> At 08:11 AM 12/10/2008, you wrote:
>> He singled out the Rotax 900 series engines because of their very
>> tight fit compared to Continentals or Lycomings. He said that
>> even if you turn the engine over by hand at 10 F or lower temps,
>> you will be scraping some metal off and starting the end of the
>> engine.
>
> YES! Yet another reason to run the mighty 582: It's a snowmobile
> engine! It doesn't care HOW cold it is. (Well, up to a point, I'm
> sure.)
>
> Sorry, I always get a little delirious around the Holidays. ;-)
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather starting |
On Wed, December 10, 2008 8:11 am, Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
> At our local EAA chapter (37) meeting last night a local A&P said we really
> need to heat everything - not just heads or oil or cylinders but EVERYTHING!
> - when we fire up the engine in cold weather. He singled out the Rotax 900
> series engines because of their very tight fit compared to Continentals or
> Lycomings. He said that even if you turn the engine over by hand at 10 F or
> lower temps, you will be scraping some metal off and starting the end of the
> engine.
As a matter of practicality, it would be pretty difficult to keep it all warm even
with when starting warm right out of a hangar without cowl flaps.
> I have never worried about this. If it is not windy, I fly without regard
> to the temperatures. Am I destroying my 912S by starting it cold?
There's one sure way to tell and that is oil analyses. They are very sensitive
to even
small changes. I had a loose air cleaner hose going to the turbo charger and on
a
highway truck (not used in dirty conditions at all) and the oil analysis detected
a
trace of silicon that had never been there before.
If you compare your cold weather operation oil analysis with summer oil analysis
that
should show you how much of various metals are appearing.
--
Paul A. Franz, P.E.
PAF Consulting Engineers
Office 425.440.9505
Cell 425.241.1618
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On Wed, December 10, 2008 9:54 am, Bob Brennan wrote:
>
> You got me all excited there John, but all I get at
> http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/Product_Catalog/KApartscat-rev12708.pdf
> is "The page cannot be found"
>
> Is it just me?
Could be. I works for me - now, at least.
--
Paul A. Franz
Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
425.241.1618 Cell
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Aircraft - Parts Catalog |
John,
Great catalog. No problem accessing it. You done good. Take a break
and have a great holiday!
Rick Weiss
N39RW Series V Speedster, 912ULS
SkyStar S/N 1
Port Orange, FL
On Dec 10, 2008, at 1:12 PM, jdmcbean wrote:
> >
>
> Got it.. the link was incorrect.. should be fixed...
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> Ph 208.337.5111
> www.kitfoxaircraft.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob
> Brennan
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:55 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Aircraft - Parts Catalog
>
> --> <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
>
> You got me all excited there John, but all I get at
> http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/Product_Catalog/KApartscat-rev12708.pdf
> is "The page cannot be found"
>
> Is it just me?
>
> Bob Brennan - N717GB
> 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
> Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
> Wrightsville Pa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
> Sent: 10 December 2008 12:29 pm
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> Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Aircraft - Parts Catalog
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>
> Good Morning !
>
> The Parts & Accessory Catalog is available !! Been a long time in
> the
> works and it is now posted on our web www.kitfoxaircraft.com
>
> As you all know the catalog will be a growing document that will be
> updated
> fairly frequently.. initially as we find typos and again as we add
> product.
> Remember if you don't see it, drop us an email or give us a call.
>
> Thank you for your support and being part of the Kitfox family !
>
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Lynn=2C What is an "enclosure heater"?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford=2C IL
> From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Cold weather starting >
Date: Wed=2C 10 Dec 2008 18:31:22 -0500> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> >
her reason to run a 200 watt enclosure heater under your oil pan=2C > and a
blanket over the cowl=2C so that temps in the teens or any other > temp wi
ll see your engine oil at 106=B0=2C and your heads at about 80-90=B0 > befo
re you're out of bed. I do this whenever the calendar says it's > winter. W
hen I start my engine=2C the oil drops to about 98=B0=2C and hangs > there
for awhile=2C then starts to climb. I taxi at this temp=2C but > don't go t
o full power until it hits 120=B0...all temps are =B0F. Light > bulbs are t
oo dangerous=2C IMHO=2C and too hard to manipulate from the > bottom of the
cowl.> > Lynn Matteson> Kitfox IV Speedster=2C taildragger> Jabiru 2200=2C
#2062=2C 593hrs> Sensenich 62x46> flying again after rebuild=2C and new El
ectroair direct-fire ignition > system=3B> also building a new pair of snow
skis> > > > > On Dec 10=2C 2008=2C at 2:07 PM=2C Guy Buchanan wrote:> > >
At 08:11 AM 12/10/2008=2C you wrote:> >> He singled out the Rotax 900 serie
s engines because of their very > >> tight fit compared to Continentals or
Lycomings. He said that > >> even if you turn the engine over by hand at 10
F or lower temps=2C > >> you will be scraping some metal off and starting
the end of the > >> engine.> >> > YES! Yet another reason to run the mighty
582: It's a snowmobile > > engine! It doesn't care HOW cold it is. (Well
=2C up to a point=2C I'm > > sure.)> >> > Sorry=2C I always get a little de
lirious around the Holidays. =3B-)> >> > Happy Holidays=2C> >> > Guy Buchan
an> > San Diego=2C CA> > K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done=2C thanks mos
tly to Bob Ducar.> >> > =================
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My engine heater is a can of start fluid on those cold mornings... (30 to
35f) I've been spanked on this group before so have at it. Steve Bennett
NC
USA 4/1200 912ul
In a message dated 12/10/2008 9:40:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
patreilly43@hotmail.com writes:
Lynn, What is an "enclosure heater"?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
> From: lynnmatt@jps.net
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Cold weather starting
> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:31:22 -0500
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> Another reason to run a 200 watt enclosure heater under your oil pan,
> and a blanket over the cowl, so that temps in the teens or any other
> temp will see your engine oil at 106=B0, and your heads at about 80-90
=B0
> before you're out of bed. I do this whenever the calendar says it's
> winter. When I start my engine, the oil drops to about 98=B0, and hangs
> there for awhile, then starts to climb. I taxi at this temp, but
> don't go to full power until it hits 120=B0...all temps are =B0F. Light
> bulbs are too dangerous, IMHO, and too hard to manipulate from the
> bottom of the cowl.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> system;
> also building a new pair of snow skis
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 10, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
>
> > At 08:11 AM 12/10/2008, you wrote:
> >> He singled out the Rotax 900 series engines because of their very
> >> tight fit compared to Continentals or Lycomings. He said that
> >> even if you turn the engine over by hand at 10 F or lower temps,
> >> you will be scraping some metal off and starting the end of the
> >> engine.
> >
> > YES! Yet another reason to run the mighty 582: It's a snowmobile
> > engine! It doesn't care HOW cold it is. (Well, up to a point, I'm
> > sure.)
> >
> > Sorry, I always get a little delirious around the Holidays. ;-)
> >
> > Happy Holidays,
> >
> > Guy Buchanan
> > San Diego, CA
> > K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
> >
> > =======================
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>
> >
>
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I=92m sorry. I should have addressed that to Gary.
Jim Crowder
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gary.algate@sandvik.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Cold weather starting
Lynn
I used a small electric forced air space heater - I used a splitter and
some
of the cheap aluminum clothes dryer ducting to feed air into the two air
inlets at the front of the cowl and a blanket draped over the top of the
cowl. The air would warm the cylinders and then flow down around the
crankcase and out the bottom
I had this on a timer that came on at about 7.00am on weekends.
By the time I got to the field all of my temps (CHT and Oil) were up to
standard summer temps.
This worked down to -20 degC and my Jab 2200 started first crank every
time.
That was in N.Ontario - now in Adelaide Australia, my biggest winter
problem is finding enough ice for my drinks!
Regards
Gary
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Another reason to run a 200 watt enclosure heater under your oil pan,
and a blanket over the cowl, so that temps in the teens or any other
temp will see your engine oil at 106=B0, and your heads at about
80-90=B0
before you're out of bed. I do this whenever the calendar says it's
winter. When I start my engine, the oil drops to about 98=B0, and hangs
there for awhile, then starts to climb. I taxi at this temp, but
don't go to full power until it hits 120=B0...all temps are =B0F. Light
bulbs are too dangerous, IMHO, and too hard to manipulate from the
bottom of the cowl.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 10, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
> At 08:11 AM 12/10/2008, you wrote:
>> He singled out the Rotax 900 series engines because of their very
>> tight fit compared to Continentals or Lycomings. He said that
>> even if you turn the engine over by hand at 10 F or lower temps,
>> you will be scraping some metal off and starting the end of the
>> engine.
>
> YES! Yet another reason to run the mighty 582: It's a snowmobile
> engine! It doesn't care HOW cold it is. (Well, up to a point, I'm
> sure.)
>
> Sorry, I always get a little delirious around the Holidays. ;-)
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
>
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Lynn,
What did you use for a splitter?
Jim Crowder
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gary.algate@sandvik.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Cold weather starting
Lynn
I used a small electric forced air space heater - I used a splitter and
some
of the cheap aluminum clothes dryer ducting to feed air into the two air
inlets at the front of the cowl and a blanket draped over the top of the
cowl. The air would warm the cylinders and then flow down around the
crankcase and out the bottom
I had this on a timer that came on at about 7.00am on weekends.
By the time I got to the field all of my temps (CHT and Oil) were up to
standard summer temps.
This worked down to -20 degC and my Jab 2200 started first crank every
time.
That was in N.Ontario - now in Adelaide Australia, my biggest winter
problem is finding enough ice for my drinks!
Regards
Gary
Gary Algate
SMC, Exploration
Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
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Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
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Another reason to run a 200 watt enclosure heater under your oil pan,
and a blanket over the cowl, so that temps in the teens or any other
temp will see your engine oil at 106=B0, and your heads at about
80-90=B0
before you're out of bed. I do this whenever the calendar says it's
winter. When I start my engine, the oil drops to about 98=B0, and hangs
there for awhile, then starts to climb. I taxi at this temp, but
don't go to full power until it hits 120=B0...all temps are =B0F. Light
bulbs are too dangerous, IMHO, and too hard to manipulate from the
bottom of the cowl.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 10, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
> At 08:11 AM 12/10/2008, you wrote:
>> He singled out the Rotax 900 series engines because of their very
>> tight fit compared to Continentals or Lycomings. He said that
>> even if you turn the engine over by hand at 10 F or lower temps,
>> you will be scraping some metal off and starting the end of the
>> engine.
>
> YES! Yet another reason to run the mighty 582: It's a snowmobile
> engine! It doesn't care HOW cold it is. (Well, up to a point, I'm
> sure.)
>
> Sorry, I always get a little delirious around the Holidays. ;-)
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
>
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