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Sun 12/28/08


Total Messages Posted: 28



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:20 AM - Re: Tach: 582 RPM question. (Catz631@aol.com)
     2. 07:08 AM - Re: Re: Full PPL vs Sport Pilot LicenseFull PPL vs Sport Pilot Lice (Catz631@aol.com)
     3. 07:09 AM - Re: Tach: 582 RPM question. (Roger Lee)
     4. 08:23 AM - Re: Re: Full PPL vs Sport Pilot LicenseFull PPL vs Sport Pilot Lice (Bob Brennan)
     5. 08:47 AM - Full PPL vs Sport Pilot License (update) (Bob Brennan)
     6. 08:49 AM - Re: Re: Tach: 582 RPM question. (aerobatics@aol.com)
     7. 10:22 AM - Re: Re: 582 RPM question. (Marco Menezes)
     8. 10:26 AM - Re: Re: 582 RPM question. (Marco Menezes)
     9. 10:44 AM - Canopy and wing covers? (815TL)
    10. 10:49 AM - Re: Re: Brake Problems (Clint Bazzill)
    11. 12:50 PM - Fuselage side stringers (jlfernan)
    12. 02:26 PM - 503 Engine Fogging-OOPS (Tom Jones)
    13. 03:03 PM - Re: 503 Engine Fogging-OOPS (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
    14. 04:03 PM - Re: Re: Full PPL vs Sport Pilot License (Malcolm Brubaker)
    15. 04:17 PM - Re: Re: Full PPL vs Sport Pilot License (Bob Brennan)
    16. 05:23 PM - Re: Re: 582 RPM question. (Malcolm Brubaker)
    17. 07:35 PM - Re: Brake Problems (jridgway)
    18. 07:43 PM - HACman mixture (jridgway)
    19. 08:03 PM - Re: Skis, who needs skis (Guy Buchanan)
    20. 08:03 PM - Re: Landing gear (Guy Buchanan)
    21. 08:03 PM - Re: [!! SPAM] Canopy and wing covers? (Guy Buchanan)
    22. 08:18 PM - series 4 price reduced (Keithc)
    23. 08:19 PM - Re: [?? Probable Spam] HACman mixture (Guy Buchanan)
    24. 08:28 PM - Re: [?? Probable Spam] HACman mixture (jridgway)
    25. 08:28 PM - Re: [?? Probable Spam] HACman mixture (jridgway)
    26. 08:31 PM - Re: passenger brakes (jridgway)
    27. 08:46 PM - Re: Skis, who needs skis (Noel Loveys)
    28. 09:08 PM - 1/8 inch fuel line clamps (jridgway)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:20:51 AM PST US
    From: Catz631@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Tach: 582 RPM question.
    I had a Cermark tach checker. It wouldn't work,they sent me another and it wouldn't work either. Finally after the third time and much arguing they sent a third. It was their new plus version and it works fine. I have a warp drive prop and it would not register nor would any other prop on the field. (Cherokees,Cessna,etc) The tach did work well for indicating the frequency of a fluorescent light though Dick Maddux Pensacola,Fl **************Don't be the last to know - click here for the latest news that


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    Time: 07:08:25 AM PST US
    From: Catz631@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Full PPL vs Sport Pilot LicenseFull PPL vs Sport
    Pilot Lice Bob, I too let my medical lapse this summer. I was elated ! At last I can pretty much get treated for any malady that might come along at my age and stay flying under sport pilot medical rules. (within reason of course) I had a stint put in about 6 years ago while I was still flying for my airline. Every year I would have a stress test in order to keep my special issuance medical (a good thing) Every year I would send in 7 lbs of material to the FAA. Every year I would get a letter back from the FAA wanting 9 lbs of paper work and because of various conditions (many I don't even have) either go bury myself or send in the paper work. If I didn't send in the additional stuff ,then consider myself null and void. I decided that I had had enough of the threatening letters so I let it lapse Yipppeeeee ! After having a friend of mine denied his medical for skin cancer and another for an equally small matter, I decided I will just fly my Kitfox around and forego non LSA aircraft. I can still instruct,give reviews,tail dragger instruction,instrument training, etc if I want to. I just have to instruct a pilot with a valid medical. So for me this was a good thing ! I never thought I would say this as getting a new first class medical every 6 months was paramount in keeping my job and I would get a wee bit of "white coat " syndrome every time I went to the doctors office. But now I am calm in my doctors office knowing that if he finds something I can be treated and still fly ! (again within reason) Dick Maddux Pensacola,Fl **************Don't be the last to know - click here for the latest news that


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    Time: 07:09:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tach: 582 RPM question.
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi Dick, I couple of things come to mind that may influence your tach. If you need to use a piece of reflective tape then make it a little larger. One style of tach I use calls for a 1" wide by 2"-3" long piece of tape. You may be too close or too far away. The angle of the outside light may be affecting the sensor, try turning the plane around so light hits your target in a different spot. Just a couple of ideas. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Service Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221465#221465


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    Time: 08:23:13 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
    Subject: Re: Full PPL vs Sport Pilot LicenseFull PPL vs Sport
    Pilot Lice Excellent story Dick, and with a happy ending due to your diligence and foresight. Your friends with skin cancer and the "equally small matter" are now unfortunately SOL (Sh*t Outa Luck) if their medical was denied, they can never fly as a Sport Pilot or anyway else apparently. Unless of course they were denied a class 1 or 2 and can still pass a class 3. If they do that asap and let the class 3 expire they are good to fly for life, or as long as they deem they are capable. Sorry for repeating the rules as I understand them in several posts - still trying to get my head around the illogic of it all. But for smart guys there are loopholes - this is good! Bob Brennan - N717GB ELSA Repairman, inspection rated 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop Wrightsville Pa _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Catz631@aol.com Sent: 28 December 2008 10:07 am Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Full PPL vs Sport Pilot LicenseFull PPL vs Sport Pilot Lice Bob, I too let my medical lapse this summer. I was elated ! At last I can pretty much get treated for any malady that might come along at my age and stay flying under sport pilot medical rules. (within reason of course) I had a stint put in about 6 years ago while I was still flying for my airline. Every year I would have a stress test in order to keep my special issuance medical (a good thing) Every year I would send in 7 lbs of material to the FAA. Every year I would get a letter back from the FAA wanting 9 lbs of paper work and because of various conditions (many I don't even have) either go bury myself or send in the paper work. If I didn't send in the additional stuff ,then consider myself null and void. I decided that I had had enough of the threatening letters so I let it lapse Yipppeeeee ! After having a friend of mine denied his medical for skin cancer and another for an equally small matter, I decided I will just fly my Kitfox around and forego non LSA aircraft. I can still instruct,give reviews,tail dragger instruction,instrument training, etc if I want to. I just have to instruct a pilot with a valid medical. So for me this was a good thing ! I never thought I would say this as getting a new first class medical every 6 months was paramount in keeping my job and I would get a wee bit of "white coat " syndrome every time I went to the doctors office. But now I am calm in my doctors office knowing that if he finds something I can be treated and still fly ! (again within reason) Dick Maddux Pensacola,Fl _____ Don't be the last to know> for the latest news that will have people talking.


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    Time: 08:47:48 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
    Subject: Full PPL vs Sport Pilot License (update)
    >From an interesting AOPA article on accidents due to incapacitation at: http://blog.aopa.org/asfblog/?p=128 <http://blog.aopa.org/asfblog/?p=128&WT.mc_id=081226epilot&WT.mc_sect=blog> &WT.mc_id=081226epilot&WT.mc_sect=blog "FAA and NTSB are watching the Sport Pilot medical experiment carefully - no FAA medical required - to see if the rule is about right or if it might be loosened. AOPA has requested that recreational pilot certificate fall under the same procedure but that is on hold while the agency evaluates the experience with Sport Pilot. An informal review of Sport Pilot accidents shows nothing that would indicate that pilots are abusing the privilege." Apparently the privilege of flying as a Sport Pilot without an FAA medical is still under review, so all you guys flying without a medical - please don't crash due to a medical condition, especially not before I need to become a Sport Pilot... ;-) Interesting though that AOPA wants to extend the idea to the recreational pilot certificate. BTW my British NPPL(M) (National Private Pilot's Licence, Microlights) has always had similar restrictions to the new US Sport Pilot and also did not require a full medical - just an affidavit from my GP which is probably a better idea than fully self-regulated. And as a microlight (my KFII was a "microlight") pilot I reported directly to the LAA (Light Aircraft Association) which is member-based and member-supportive like the EAA, so no direct dealings with the CAA (British FAA). Hence some of my rants against the FAA here, dealing directly with the bureaucrats can be a pain in the arse! (British ass) Bob Brennan - N717GB ELSA Repairman, inspection rated 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop Wrightsville Pa


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    Time: 08:49:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tach: 582 RPM question.
    From: aerobatics@aol.com
    hmmm I have both versions and work great but I found positioning the plane so the sun in in the general area on the opposite of the tach ... I didn't need reflective tape.... but sounds like a good idea... Mine even worked from the cockpit with the door open. glad u got it working Dave


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    Time: 10:22:40 AM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 582 RPM question.
    I'd leave it in Andrew, unless you've got something else you're dying to pu t in the vacant hole. Here's why: Tiny tach is accurate but because it read s ignition impulses from one ignition wire only, it can't tell you much abo ut how your other CDI module is performing. While the steam gauge may be in nacurate, it will show relative difference between CDI 1 and 2 when you do your run-up. At least that's my personal rationalization for keeping the ol d, inaccurate tach. - What i'd really like is a truly accurate 2-stroke rpm gauge with inputs fro m both CDI modules. - Marco Menezes N99KX Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch --- On Sat, 12/27/08, 815TL <lawrenceaw@corning.com> wrote: From: 815TL <lawrenceaw@corning.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 RPM question. <lawrenceaw@corning.com> Thanks again everyone for all the info. It sounds like the Tiny Tach is th e way to go, and they are fairly inexpensive. Should I just remove the old t ach and put this in place, or run both? Are they accurate enough to, just run it alone? First few flights, I will probably just leave it as is, and see how everyth ing goes, then move on to the Tiny Tach and adjusting the prop pirch. Andrew Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221372#221372 =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 10:26:21 AM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 582 RPM question.
    Well thanks Noel for solving my problem with the Tiny Tach and giving me a new and better rationale for keeping both instruments! Don't you love this list? - Happy new year and go Gators! - Marco Menezes N99KX Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch --- On Sat, 12/27/08, Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca> wrote: From: Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 RPM question. <noelloveys@yahoo.ca> This is just my personal preference but I run both... There is a reason for that. The digital gives a very accurate reading of th e rpm at a point in time but you have to follow the numbers to establish a trend like is the engine speeding up slightly or slowing down slightly... The analog. original tach. reads the trends very well so I use it for that and just ignore the numbers on the face. The very best would be a digital tach with a line representing trend like a lot of cars have in thier digita l dashboards. A word of advice; when you wrap the spark plug leads for the Tiny Tach, be sure to wrap both plug leads for one cylinder so the tach will still work when you do your mag tests. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 815TL Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 2:31 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 RPM question. <lawrenceaw@corning.com> Thanks again everyone for all the info. It sounds like the Tiny Tach is th e way to go, and they are fairly inexpensive. Should I just remove the old tach and put this in place, or run both? Are they accurate enough to, just run it alone? First few flights, I will probably just leave it as is, and see how everything goes, then move on to the Tiny Tach and adjusting the prop pirch . Andrew Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221372#221372 =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 10:44:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Canopy and wing covers?
    From: "815TL" <lawrenceaw@corning.com>
    Does anyone know of any companies out there that make reasonably priced canopy and wing covers for the Kitfox? Unfortunately my instructor was not able to get me the hanger space he though he could. And I really can't afford the cost of hanger space right now, so I will have to deal with a tie down. I have been using a big tarp and strapping it down with bungie cords, which works fine, except for days like today. We are having high winds, and I had to remove the tarp, or else the wind would get under it and want to push it around. I see Bruce's custom covers has them, but they are a bit pricey I think. $425 for the wing covers and $450 for the cabin cover. Andrew Kitfox II, 815TL, 582-C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221492#221492


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    Time: 10:49:43 AM PST US
    From: Clint Bazzill <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Brake Problems
    No they were not fixed with the GOLD ANODIZED version. The gold ones which I have now are exactly like the old ones. The master cylinders used for t he dual brakes were not Matco=2C they were a non certified version of Cleve land. Parts are the same but numbers are different. The Kitfox Model IV's at least mine supplied me with Cleveland=2C dual brakes. The old sand cas t aluminum work just as well as the new pretty ones. Clint Model IV 1400 hours > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Brake Problems> From: jridgway@academicplanet.c om> Date: Fri=2C 26 Dec 2008 23:45:39 -0800> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> om>> > Their was a funny hydraulic 'lock up' problem when you used dual MAT CO brakes. Make sure you do not have the old GRAY IRON looking kind. This p roblem was fixed with the newer GOLD ANODIZED version.> > > > > Read this t opic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221327#2 =====================> > >


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    Time: 12:50:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Fuselage side stringers
    From: "jlfernan" <jlfernan@bellsouth.net>
    Can someone post a photo of how the side stringers are done at the forward end by the doors. In the drawings first it looks like they are tucked in between the frame tubes, then it appears they just bond to the door frame and are outside the fuselage tubes. I'm really confused. Sometimes what seems simple takes the longest. -------- Jorge Fernandez Supersport Fuselage/Forward Controls http://websites.expercraft.com/jlfernan/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221499#221499


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    Time: 02:26:40 PM PST US
    Subject: 503 Engine Fogging-OOPS
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    Today I was going to fog the crankcase on my 503 like Rotax recommends for more than a few weeks storage. I aimed the extension tube in the throat of the front carb and pressed the nozzle down. You wouldn't believe it but the extension tube on the fogging oil can came off and shot straight into the basement of the crankcase. I took the carb off to get a better look but can't see it. Any ideas how to get it out? Only way I can think of is to take the cylinder off. To add insult to injury I got stung by a dormant hornet between two fingers when I picked up a wrench. Its been zero degrees for two weeks here. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221505#221505


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    Time: 03:03:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 503 Engine Fogging-OOPS
    From: "Paul Franz - Merlin GT" <paul@eucleides.com>
    On Sun, December 28, 2008 2:25 pm, Tom Jones wrote: > > Today I was going to fog the crankcase on my 503 like Rotax recommends for more than a > few weeks storage. I aimed the extension tube in the throat of the front carb and > pressed the nozzle down. You wouldn't believe it but the extension tube on the > fogging oil can came off and shot straight into the basement of the crankcase. With luck like that, only the worst could be expected. What would that be? Well, I'd say, taking the jug off and not finding the extension tube inside because when it blew off, it actually went somewhere else. > I took the carb off to get a better look but can't see it. Any ideas how to get it > out? Only way I can think of is to take the cylinder off. There certainly isn't a lot of space inside there for an object to hide. When the crank throw is at the bottom there's not enough room for anything to hide under it. But of course when it is at the bottom the piston is blocking your view. If the little extension has iron content, maybe a magnet on a flex would find it. I might also try some balled up masking tape on a flex which might stick to a small piece. Given that it is so cold there and everything might be oil coated getting something to stick might be a waste of time. Maybe a blast of compressed air could flip it into view? Not worth spending much time trying unsuccessfully to retrieve it before proceeding to disassembly. > To add insult to injury I got stung by a dormant hornet between two fingers when I > picked up a wrench. Its been zero degrees for two weeks here. Yipes, that can produce some painful swelling. -- Paul A. Franz Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP Bellevue WA 425.241.1618 Cell


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    Time: 04:03:31 PM PST US
    From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Full PPL vs Sport Pilot License
    if their is anyone willing to talk with me about there LSA repairman cert. please call me at (989)513-3022- Malcolm Michigan- roger lee has alread y ben very helpful --- On Sat, 12/27/08, Bob Brennan <matronics@bob.brennan.name> wrote: From: Bob Brennan <matronics@bob.brennan.name> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Full PPL vs Sport Pilot License Hi Richard, - Thanks for all the great advice, I'm sure there are others on the list that can benefit from it as well. As summary to this discussion I think it is imperative for us pilots to be very aware of our own medical situation and most of all realistic about it. Second most important is to f ind a-caring-AME and hopefully a fair FAA official to deal with, we are all different and should be judged by our true condition, which takes time and effort on their part to understand, rather than the sum of the checkboxes o n an FAA form. Which is the main reason for my post - to make sure we are all aw are of the consequences of failing an FAA medical exam. - For my own part - no I do not self-medicate with aspirin, I only used it for-one week in order t o quickly reduce my blood pressure for a doctor's visit. I have hereditary hi gh blood pressure but keep it in check with good diet and exercise, I am loath e to fall back on prescribed meds. Aspirin is a blood thinner, it was prescribed to my mother for many years and it does work when-taken in moderation. My elevated level was temporary due to extreme stress which is why I don't fee l I "cheated" to lower my level artificially in order to gain access to the gym where I could lower it properly. - To bring it back on topic - it seems we also need to be cautious and even sometimes devious to get around these silly rules, and do n't assume that being honest on a form will trigger a "please explain in more detail" response and a careful review of the circumstances. Cynical? Maybe, but practical under the circumstances I believe. - Also - yes I am a member of AOPA and the EAA and have been pleased with the help I have received. The problem is in knowing in ad vance what advice to seek, in all cases so far I have gone to them because I trie d first to deal with the FAA and was rejected for reasons I hadn't anticipate d, then AOPA or the EAA will step in to try to get somebody's attention to cor rect what should never have been a problem in the first place. Now I try to educ ate myself in advance and avoid the many pitfalls, and share that experience wh ere possible, as many on this list do on a regular basis. A smart man learns fr om his mistakes, a wise man learns from the mistakes of others and avoids maki ng the mistakes in the first place! - Bob Brennan - N717GB ELSA Repairman, inspection rated 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop Wrightsville Pa From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Weiss Richard Sent: 26 December 2008 9:02 pm kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Full PPL vs Sport Pilot License Bob, As a GA and airline pilot, I've had a special issuance (1st class) for over 20 years and high blood pressure to boot. -The FAA has made it very easy for a pilot to get BP meds because they realized guys were avoiding medical treatment of this disease out of fear of losing their certificate. -The consequences of not taking the meds were too dangerous. -Almost any BP me d is now on the FAA approved list. -They only ask for a pilot to ascertain any side effects and ensure they don't affect flying. -(By the way, the same goes for sleep apnea. -It's not that difficult to regain certification, just $$, don't ask how I know this:-) I understand the salt, fat reduction, and the exercise-regimen you discussed, and that's-great, but I've never heard any doctor recommend-aspirin-3 times a day to reduce BP. -The side effects of-aspirin-are serious; internal bleeding, gastric disorders, etc. -I hope you're not still doing that. As for Sport Pilot, the feds were backed into a corner. -Sport Pilot was supported by the industry and touted by the FAA as a cost reduction to get more people into flying, not as means for us old guys to skirt medical certification conditions. -Thus, if you know you have a disqualifying condition, and the FAA doesn't, what can they do? -However, once they kno w, what can they do? - -Now you and they both know your condition and they can't legally, turn their back to it, as the rule is currently written .. -Also. it's not likely the rule will change due to the time, cost, and other problems involved in fixing it. -It's sad it can't be fixed, but it is what it is. I would recommend establishing a good relationship with your AME and get a physical by him or her in advance,maybe 'within minutes':-) of the flight physical. -If you pass fine, if it doesn't, stop there. -If the problem is such that immediate action is required then so be it. -Better to live and not fly. -Go get healed, come back and try again. -The relationship 'thing' can't be overemphasized. -Most AME's want you to fly and come back frequently for more flight physicals. -They also want you t o be safe. -Most will always work with you, if not, FIRE him and go find another. If you're a member, you can always call the EAA board of medical advisors with your questions. -They will give you an unbiased answer and you can d o this without fear of-repercussion. -The same is true for AOPA. -Use these folks, as they are there for you. -Heck, your dues are paying for this service. Just my two cents. Rick Weiss N39RW Series V Speedster, 912ULS SkyStar S/N 1 Port Orange, FL ) DO NOT ARCHIVE On Dec 26, 2008, at 10:55 AM, Bob Brennan wrote: So I cut out all salt and fat, took aspirin 3 times a day for a week, and went to my doctor to get a certified reading within their limits. = href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chr ef="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref ="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 04:17:41 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
    Subject: Re: Full PPL vs Sport Pilot License
    Malcolm - contact me off-list (matronics@bob.brennan.name) or on and I will be more than happy to explain what it takes to get the certification. Bob Brennan - N717GB ELSA Repairman, inspection rated 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop Wrightsville Pa _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Brubaker Sent: 28 December 2008 7:02 pm Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Full PPL vs Sport Pilot License if their is anyone willing to talk with me about there LSA repairman cert. please call me at (989)513-3022 Malcolm Michigan roger lee has already ben very helpful --- On Sat, 12/27/08, Bob Brennan <matronics@bob.brennan.name> wrote: From: Bob Brennan <matronics@bob.brennan.name> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Full PPL vs Sport Pilot License Hi Richard, Thanks for all the great advice, I'm sure there are others on the list that can benefit from it as well. As summary to this discussion I think it is imperative for us pilots to be very aware of our own medical situation and most of all realistic about it. Second most important is to find a caring AME and hopefully a fair FAA official to deal with, we are all different and should be judged by our true condition, which takes time and effort on their part to understand, rather than the sum of the checkboxes on an FAA form. Which is the main reason for my post - to make sure we are all aware of the consequences of failing an FAA medical exam. For my own part - no I do not self-medicate with aspirin, I only used it for one week in order to quickly reduce my blood pressure for a doctor's visit. I have hereditary high blood pressure but keep it in check with good diet and exercise, I am loathe to fall back on prescribed meds. Aspirin is a blood thinner, it was prescribed to my mother for many years and it does work when taken in moderation. My elevated level was temporary due to extreme stress which is why I don't feel I "cheated" to lower my level artificially in order to gain access to the gym where I could lower it properly. To bring it back on topic - it seems we also need to be cautious and even sometimes devious to get around these silly rules, and don't assume that being honest on a form will trigger a "please explain in more detail" response and a careful review of the circumstances. Cynical? Maybe, but practical under the circumstances I believe. Also - yes I am a member of AOPA and the EAA and have been pleased with the help I have received. The problem is in knowing in advance what advice to seek, in all cases so far I have gone to them because I tried first to deal with the FAA and was rejected for reasons I hadn't anticipated, then AOPA or the EAA will step in to try to get somebody's attention to correct what should never have been a problem in the first place. Now I try to educate myself in advance and avoid the many pitfalls, and share that experience where possible, as many on this list do on a regular basis. A smart man learns from his mistakes, a wise man learns from the mistakes of others and avoids making the mistakes in the first place! Bob Brennan - N717GB ELSA Repairman, inspection rated 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop Wrightsville Pa _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Weiss Richard Sent: 26 December 2008 9:02 pm Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Full PPL vs Sport Pilot License Bob, As a GA and airline pilot, I've had a special issuance (1st class) for over 20 years and high blood pressure to boot. The FAA has made it very easy for a pilot to get BP meds because they realized guys were avoiding medical treatment of this disease out of fear of losing their certificate. The consequences of not taking the meds were too dangerous. Almost any BP med is now on the FAA approved list. They only ask for a pilot to ascertain any side effects and ensure they don't affect flying. (By the way, the same goes for sleep apnea. It's not that difficult to regain certification, just $$, don't ask how I know this:-) I understand the salt, fat reduction, and the exercise regimen you discussed, and that's great, but I've never heard any doctor recommend aspirin 3 times a day to reduce BP. The side effects of aspirin are serious; internal bleeding, gastric disorders, etc. I hope you're not still doing that. As for Sport Pilot, the feds were backed into a corner. Sport Pilot was supported by the industry and touted by the FAA as a cost reduction to get more people into flying, not as means for us old guys to skirt medical certification conditions. Thus, if you know you have a disqualifying condition, and the FAA doesn't, what can they do? However, once they know, what can they do? Now you and they both know your condition and they can't legally, turn their back to it, as the rule is currently written. Also. it's not likely the rule will change due to the time, cost, and other problems involved in fixing it. It's sad it can't be fixed, but it is what it is. I would recommend establishing a good relationship with your AME and get a physical by him or her in advance,maybe 'within minutes':-) of the flight physical. If you pass fine, if it doesn't, stop there. If the problem is such that immediate action is required then so be it. Better to live and not fly. Go get healed, come back and try again. The relationship 'thing' can't be overemphasized. Most AME's want you to fly and come back frequently for more flight physicals. They also want you to be safe. Most will always work with you, if not, FIRE him and go find another. If you're a member, you can always call the EAA board of medical advisors with your questions. They will give you an unbiased answer and you can do this without fear of repercussion. The same is true for AOPA. Use these folks, as they are there for you. Heck, your dues are paying for this service. Just my two cents. Rick Weiss N39RW Series V Speedster, 912ULS SkyStar S/N 1 Port Orange, FL ) DO NOT ARCHIVE On Dec 26, 2008, at 10:55 AM, Bob Brennan wrote: So I cut out all salt and fat, took aspirin 3 times a day for a week, and went to my doctor to get a certified reading within their limits. = href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref="http ://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com D======================== ========= D======================== ========= D======================== ========= D======================== =========


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    Time: 05:23:13 PM PST US
    From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 582 RPM question.
    I run a tiny tack along w my large dial tack- because it is not as accura te as the tiny is.- practically the only time a tack is mandatory is to s et prop pitch for maximum rpm for climb out and to let you know when your B gear box needs maintenance because of rough idling above 2000 rpm the perf ormance of a two stroke varies- greatly because of density altitude and i t is sometimes moor in portent to run your motor at a setting that gives yo u the best egt reading and not at a perdetermined rpm I know some people th at run the egt at a setting that looks good on the gage despite the fact th at their plugs look too white to me and other that run the plugs so rich th at they run the risk of fowling and that greatly increases the amount of- carbon build up yet I don't know many people that check their egt gages ag ents a spare one- or that run constantly high egt readings because there plugs tell them the setting is ok I have Benn told by Eric tucker that is things like is the reason the FAA considered thees craft an experiment- and uncertafied aircraft --- On Sat, 12/27/08, 815TL <lawrenceaw@corning.com> wrote: From: 815TL <lawrenceaw@corning.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 RPM question. <lawrenceaw@corning.com> Thanks again everyone for all the info. It sounds like the Tiny Tach is th e way to go, and they are fairly inexpensive. Should I just remove the old t ach and put this in place, or run both? Are they accurate enough to, just run it alone? First few flights, I will probably just leave it as is, and see how everyth ing goes, then move on to the Tiny Tach and adjusting the prop pirch. Andrew Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221372#221372 =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 07:35:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brake Problems
    From: "jridgway" <jridgway@academicplanet.com>
    Sorry, The problem I was expressing was with the older MATCO brakes. I was told by MATCO this problem 'was fixed' with the newer GOLD anodized master cylinders. Their was also a 'mod' avaiable for the old style if you wished to go that way. Jack Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221546#221546


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    Time: 07:43:04 PM PST US
    Subject: HACman mixture
    From: "jridgway" <jridgway@academicplanet.com>
    I was looking at the documentation for the HACman mixture for my ROTAX 582. I read several reviews where the user was pleased with the performance (great to have these forums). Question I have is the install..do the pressure/connection lines 'T' into the current ventilation lines (Mine go from the left side vent to the right side vent holes)..or..is there a separate 'tap' on the side of the Bings that these tie into? Can somebody explain the TRIPLEX line hook up. Thanks..documentation was not clear. Jack Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221548#221548


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    Time: 08:03:07 PM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: Skis, who needs skis
    At 09:45 AM 12/27/2008, you wrote: >A picture from a couple years ago on the lake How cool would that be! Man, you could do great donuts. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV/1200 w/ 582 C-box & Warp 3 blade 100% and flying thanks mostly to Bob Ducar Do Not Archive


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    Time: 08:03:08 PM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: Landing gear
    At 05:05 PM 12/27/2008, you wrote: >To the list. My face is red and I am sorry for the previous >post. It was to have gone to Dick off list. And here I thought you were going to let us set your prices democratically. ;-) Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV/1200 w/ 582 C-box & Warp 3 blade 100% and flying thanks mostly to Bob Ducar


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    Time: 08:03:08 PM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: Canopy and wing covers?
    At 10:43 AM 12/28/2008, you wrote: >I see Bruce's custom covers has them, but they are a bit pricey I >think. $425 for the wing covers and $450 for the cabin cover. John has them at Kitfox LLC. (www.kitfoxaircraft.com) Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV/1200 w/ 582 C-box & Warp 3 blade 100% and flying thanks mostly to Bob Ducar


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    Time: 08:18:08 PM PST US
    Subject: series 4 price reduced
    From: "Keithc" <keith@intev.ca>
    Hey all, I have just reduced the price on my series 4 project. It includes quick build wings and a used mid time 912 from a certified a/c, no logs. new price $13,500.00 Canadian$$. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221557#221557


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    Time: 08:19:06 PM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: HACman mixture
    At 07:42 PM 12/28/2008, you wrote: >Question I have is the install..do the pressure/connection lines 'T' >into the current ventilation lines (Mine go from the left side vent >to the right side vent holes)..or..is there a separate 'tap' on the >side of the Bings that these tie into? Can somebody explain the >TRIPLEX line hook up. Thanks..documentation was not clear. Jack, One line replaces all the vent lines in one continuous loop. (There's a stub between the two carbs.) Another line attaches to a "new" port vented to the venturi of the aft carb. (I say new because it isn't used in the standard Bing 54 installation. The new carbs have the port capped off by a screw. Older carbs must have this port drilled.) The third line goes to the air cleaner housing. I haven't bothered to tell you which is which, the instructions are pretty clear about that. They call it TRIPLEX, but it's really just three tubes wrapped wrapped with what I call "spring tape". I didn't use it, rather I used fire hose forward of the fire wall and this cool nylon braid inside the cockpit. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV/1200 w/ 582 C-box & Warp 3 blade 100% and flying thanks mostly to Bob Ducar


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    Time: 08:28:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: [?? Probable Spam] HACman mixture
    From: "jridgway" <jridgway@academicplanet.com>
    Thanks...I did a quick look at the carb set up today on the KF3 I just got last month. I could not see any stub/port next to the fuel intake because of the fire hose wrapping on the fuel line. I guess I will try to take this off later in the the week and see what model of carb I have..thanks... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221559#221559


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    Time: 08:28:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: [?? Probable Spam] HACman mixture
    From: "jridgway" <jridgway@academicplanet.com>
    Thanks...I did a quick look at the carb set up today on the KF3 I just got last month. I could not see any stub/port next to the fuel intake because of the fire hose wrapping on the fuel line. I guess I will try to take this off later in the the week and see what model of carb I have..thanks... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221560#221560


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    Time: 08:31:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: passenger brakes
    From: "jridgway" <jridgway@academicplanet.com>
    Call MATCO..they can hook you up with copilot brakes..easy install with your current system... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221561#221561


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    Time: 08:46:35 PM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Skis, who needs skis
    I had to question it as I have seen a lot of ice (Salt water) but none of it is a clear as that stuff. When we see ice that black it is usually only millimetres thick. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 10:06 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Skis, who needs skis I can relate to slick ice....the first year I moved back to Michigan, we had a really fast freeze, and the ice was absolutely clear except for a few bubbles and some cracks that let you determine its thickness...about 4". I got my skates on and was tentatively skating around, and it was the weirdest feeling I've ever had...the brain reacted to the vision of ice so clear that the feeling was that you were walking/skating on water. My brain said this isn't possible, and it told me to get the hell out of there. It took a while to overcome this feeling. You could see bottles, cans, leaves, an old tire, all the stuff that is always there, but crystal clear...not as seen in the summer through the murk. For over 40 years I've skated on artificial ice, and that is always translucent. That's why this was such a mind boggler. Who said old guys always need to tell stories? : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs Sensenich 62x46 flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition system; also building a new pair of snow skis do not archive On Dec 27, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Cudnohufsky's wrote: > Noel, > > I can answer that question for Aaron, I was the guy flying the > Kitfox, Aaron was in the Yellow and Blue Kolb and our friend Scott > was in the White Kolb. We did not have to drill the ice, it was > over a foot thick with trucks and fishing shacks already on it, > that year we had hardly any snow just cold up until then. Landing > was a new experience because the ice was as slick as it looks. > > > Lloyd Cudnohufsky > > Model 5 912ul IFA > > Northern Michigan > > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox- > list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 12:42 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Skis, who needs skis > > > Silly que4stion but did any one actually drill that ice to check > how thick it was?? How thick was it?/ It looks pretty black/thin > to me. > > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox- > list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Gustafson > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 2:15 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Skis, who needs skis > > > A picture from a couple years ago on the lake > > > http://www.eaa439.org/photos/index.htm > > > Aaron Gustafson I did have skis also > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/ > Navigator?Kitfox-List http://forums.matronics.com http:// > www.matronics.com/contributionhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator? > Kitfox-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com > > > Checked by AVG. > 12/26/2008 1:01 PM > > > Checked by AVG. > 12/26/2008 1:01 PM > > ============================================================ _- > ============================================================ _- > ===========================================================


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    Time: 09:08:44 PM PST US
    Subject: 1/8 inch fuel line clamps
    From: "jridgway" <jridgway@academicplanet.com>
    New to using 1/8 fuel lines for my ROTAX vent and primer hoses. Regular hose clamps do not work. What is everybody using to secure these? TIE WRAPS ? SAFETY WIRE? thanks..jack Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221564#221564




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