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1. 05:48 AM - Re: Trailering a Kitfox (815TL)
2. 06:33 AM - Re: Re: Trailering a Kitfox (Bob Brennan)
3. 07:11 AM - Re: First Flight - finally (Patrick Best)
4. 09:12 AM - Re: Re: Trailering a Kitfox (Lynn Matteson)
5. 09:39 AM - Re: Re: Trailering a Kitfox (Bob Brennan)
6. 09:44 AM - Re: First Flight - finally (skyring)
7. 12:02 PM - Re: Re: 582 Exhaust wrap (Noel Loveys)
8. 02:03 PM - Re: First Flight - finally (Michael Logan)
9. 02:09 PM - Re: sight glass fuel indicator? (paul wilson)
10. 03:18 PM - Mikuni Fuel Pump (Pat Reilly)
11. 06:59 PM - Re: Trailering a Kitfox (akflyer)
12. 07:05 PM - Re: sight glass fuel indicator? (akflyer)
13. 07:52 PM - Towing a Kitfox (Dee Young)
14. 08:14 PM - Re: Re: Trailering a Kitfox (Noel Loveys)
15. 08:15 PM - Re: Re: sight glass fuel indicator? (Noel Loveys)
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kitfox |
Ya know, I never realy gave it any thought as to if the wings should be level or
not, or wind preassure on the top of the wings. It all makes sense. That being
said, I trailered mine over 1100 miles with the tailwheel down on the deck.
Most of the ime I was doing 65-75 on the highway. As far as I can tell nothing
was damaged. So it may put more stresses on the top of the wing in the
tail down configuration, but the bird seems to handle it just fine.
Andrew
815TL, Kitfox II, Rotax 582-C
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kitfox |
More importantly, in my opinion, trailering with the tailwheel on the deck
gives more "weight" to the tail, which is now the leading edge of the shape,
to resist the biggest problem of trailering on highways - those big rigs
that always pass too close trying to figure out just what kind of bug you're
haulin'. I transport my plane, 2 trailered boats (one 25 foot several
tonner), canoes and kayaks on my roof, and building materials of all sorts
(not all at once!). The biggest enemy is the leading edge "push" from that
big rig's flat front, the suction as it passes, and the turbulence in it's
wake. I've watched my trailer(s) swerve with the force and car-topped canoes
strain at the straps.
Personally I want my load to be as heavy and stable as possible, especially
one that sits so high. If I every find a recording strain gauge or scale I
would love to put facts to opinion, but I don't believe there is even the
potential of damaging down-forces with the tail on the deck. The potential
for damaging upward and side forces for a plane travelling flat to the wind
though is real, especially the rapid transition in force vectors from a
passing rig. In my opinion, and physics 101. Strap 'er down, keep 'er
stable, but don't let 'er float.
Bob Brennan - N717GB
ELSA Repairman, inspection rated
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 815TL
Sent: 06 January 2009 8:48 am
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Trailering a Kitfox
Ya know, I never realy gave it any thought as to if the wings should be
level or not, or wind preassure on the top of the wings. It all makes
sense. That being said, I trailered mine over 1100 miles with the tailwheel
down on the deck. Most of the ime I was doing 65-75 on the highway. As far
as I can tell nothing was damaged. So it may put more stresses on the top
of the wing in the tail down configuration, but the bird seems to handle it
just fine.
Andrew
815TL, Kitfox II, Rotax 582-C
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| Subject: | First Flight - finally |
So you continued to fly test manoeuvres despite a lack of airspeed indicati
on?
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Logan
Sent: January 5, 2009 7:46 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: First Flight - finally
It is about time Rick, especially since you have serial number one. I coul
d have sworn you had a nose dragger, did you change it?
Congratulations on the nice flight and hope you have many more to come.
Why don't you fly back north to Dogwood Airpark and convince my wife of how
nice it is at your airpark in the land of warmth in the winter. I had to
insulate the hangar just to make it tolerable in the winter time. Growing
up in Georgia, I like the heat a lot better than the cold.
Mike Logan
Series 5
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Weiss Richard
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 9:56 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight - finally
All,
Well, today was as near perfect as it gets. Winds calm, temperature about
70 (sorry about that to everyone north of Daytona Beach), sky was high thin
for the most part, so I decided, after 14 years and 9 months of building t
ime, it was time to get this bird in the air. After reading about everyone
's first flight posts, I guess I was the only guy to ever be nervous flying
their machine for the first time. Like everyone here knows, the ground ro
ll was quick and short. The liftoff smooth and wow, this airplane flies gr
eat. I would like to tell you how fast I was going, but my airspeed indica
tor never worked (along with a few other minor things). It made for a few
interesting moments, but attitude flying worked good, until the condensati
on on my windscreen made everything ahead invisible. Fortunately the side
windows stayed clear. The windscreen cleared up after about a minute. I l
eveled at 1000 feet and did some turns, slow flight, and played for about 1
0 more minutes then headed back for a landing. It all went smooth consider
ing I held used half flaps (11 degrees) and extra speed, just to be on the
safe side. I would like to say it was a perfect landing, but it did a smal
l 'skip' before rolling to turnoff speed. That had to be the best half hou
r of flying fun in a long time.
Thanks to everyone on this list for all of your help over all these years.
I hope I can pay it forward some time. There are a lot of others to thank
for all their help and they know who they are. However, I want to especia
lly thank my former girlfriend, now wife, for all 14 years and 9 months of
patience and support. She is the greatest!!!!
[cid:742250715@06012009-1077][cid:742250715@06012009-107E]
Rick Weiss
N39RW Series V Speedster, 912ULS
SkyStar S/N 1
Port Orange, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kitfox |
Out of curiosity, what kind of tailwheel spring do/did you have, and
how many leaves? Count all the leaves, whether or not they are long
or short. Or do you have the one-piece Grove spring?
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after engine rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire
ignition system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
do not archive
On Jan 6, 2009, at 8:47 AM, 815TL wrote:
>
> Ya know, I never realy gave it any thought as to if the wings
> should be level or not, or wind preassure on the top of the wings.
> It all makes sense. That being said, I trailered mine over 1100
> miles with the tailwheel down on the deck. Most of the ime I was
> doing 65-75 on the highway. As far as I can tell nothing was
> damaged. So it may put more stresses on the top of the wing in the
> tail down configuration, but the bird seems to handle it just fine.
>
> Andrew
> 815TL, Kitfox II, Rotax 582-C
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=223118#223118
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kitfox |
Oh boy, better check my physics huh? ;-) Ok, I did...
First of all a Kitfox wing being trailered is not a "wing", as in "airfoil",
it is a "plane". A rather weak plane at that, given that the upper surface
is cambered and sheds the wind. Place some flat rigid plywood on top of the
wings (as a mind experiment, not for real please) and you would have a true
plane.
This is a relevant topic for me because in between rants on this forum I am
completing a new roof on my house that I designed and built from scratch. I
replaced a higher slope (8 in 12) roof with a low-slope (3 in 12) dormer. I
live on top of an 800' hill and the roof faces the weather side of WNW. I
measured 30mph winds yesterday and 60+ is not uncommon, so wind is a big
consideration. Keeping to topic - it's a bit like trailering a kitfox into
the wind at an angle.
I researched any building code requirements and there are none for "wind
weight", just snow loading and "wind uplift". At low angles the wind is
deflected upward causing negative pressure at the surface, hence uplift.
High winds do not crush roofs into houses, they lift them off. There is a
range of angle-of-incidence however, steeper roofs have lower effects from
uplift. Both my roof and my kitfox wings however fall well within the uplift
slope range. I could include real physics formulas here but I think it was
Richard Feynman who said "with every formula you will lose 10% of your
readers". Google "wind uplift" for the math if you want.
I'm glad you used the old hand-out-the-window analogy, we've all done it as
kids, hopefully some of us can even remember back that far<g>. Tilting up
slightly gives up-pressure, down gives down-pressure as you said. BUT - tilt
further in either direction and you won't be able to hold it, and you will
find there is a sharp breakpoint for that effect. That is the point where
"uplift" forces no longer mitigate the direct wind pressure. Now try to hold
your hand at exactly level - you can't, your hand will bob up and down.
Don't do this with any bikers around, they might misconstrue your
intentions. Now put a piece of thin aluminum out both windows (in your
mind's-eye, it's easier); one at a low angle-of-incidence and one as close
as possible to 0 degrees. The one at an angle will be forced downward with a
relatively constant force, the other will oscillate. Guess which will still
be attached after a few minutes like that?
Now let's go to a fly-in (again imagining) with our Kitfoxes and fold the
wings overnight. I will tie some weights to the ends of my wings and you tie
on a mechanism that flings a lighter weight around up-and-down all night.
Next morning let's see who is more comfortable unfolding the wings and
taking off. I'm not going up in your plane mate! Disclaimer - I'm sure the
Kitfox is well enough designed to handle the up-and-down forces at that
unusual angle, that the welds will hold and there will be no evidence of
metal fatigue. But I'm still not going up in your plane mate! BTW no need to
come up with a contraption to put up-and-down forces on the wings, just
trailer with the wings level to the wind, it's the same thing.
Really back on topic - trailering with the wings at a low angle-of-incidence
to the wind will put a low, stabilising downward force on them, mitigated by
the effect of wind uplift as long as the angle is shallow. Travelling with
the wings level into the wind will cause varying forces in all directions
that will all focus on the attach points - with a moment force multiplier of
about 16ft.
I'm fairly sure no trailered Kitfoxes have had their wings fall off due to
structural failure due to metal fatique, but as a recently educated ELSA
inspector I would sure want to do some NDT scans on the attach points if I
knew the wings had been trailered level.
Just my 4 cents, and some armchair physics.
Bob Brennan - N717GB
ELSA Repairman, inspection rated
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kirk hull
Sent: 04 January 2009 8:13 pm
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Trailering a Kitfox
Better check your physics. Any shape can act as a wing when moving though
the air in any direction. Granted some shapes are better then others but
any will work. If you don't believe me all you have to do is stick you hand
out the window of a moving car. As with any wing the more + angle of attack
(until stall) the more lift and the more - angle of attack the more down
force.
While I could be wrong my line of thinking goes like this.
The wing was designed to have lift applied to it with the wings in the
extended position where the load is evenly distributed to all connections.
With the wings folded you loose 1 connection(front spar) leaving the
remaining supports both on the same side. This is why most people have come
up with a bracket of some sort to support the leading edge. With that said,
with the tail down (- angle of attack) you are applying force in the
opposite direction to which the wing was designed with the addition of
minimal support. With the tail up in a neutral position you are not adding
any extra force in either direction to the wing.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of steve shinabery
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 5:50 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Trailering a Kitfox
Bob Brennan wrote:
<matronics@bob.brennan.name>
>
> Why do you think "with the tail down on the deck it[they?] will create a
lot
> of down force"? The airfoil only works from leading edge to trailing edge,
> in that position (trailering, tail down) the air pressure will just spill
to
> the sides and center and provide minimal force downward where you want it
-
> holding it on the flatbed. Seems to work for me, or are my physics wrong?
> Lifting the tail can cause varying lift, down pressure, side pressures,
> vibration, elevator flapping around, and other bad stuff. As others have
> posted about "rubbing on the tail". No? Yes?
>
> Bob Brennan - N717GB
> ELSA Repairman, inspection rated
> 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
> Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
> Wrightsville Pa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kirk hull
> Sent: 03 January 2009 4:29 pm
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Trailering a Kitfox
>
>
> The rear inspection plates are off. That is an old photo of the first
trip
> to the airport and everything was not buttoned up as I did a full
inspection
> before the first flight. As for the tail being up. That prevents
excessive
> air loads on the wings in the folded position. With the tail down on the
> deck they will create a lot of down force
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Brennan
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 2:48 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Trailering a Kitfox
>
> <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
>
> Kirk, and anyone else who trailers on a flatbed or knows the answer,
>
> I notice in yours and several other pictures the tailwheel is raised so
that
> the wings and stabiliser are level, or I assume that is the reason. I
> trailer mine with the tailwheel on the deck, specifically so that the wind
> while travelling is exerting a downward pressure on the surfaces and
> hopefully holding everything in place without flutter. I have never had
> rubbing marks of the flaperons against the tail, which are held tight
> against it, or any problems with the horizontal control surface which is
all
> the way down and not secured.
>
> Some have mentioned fears of tailwheel spring damage but my Maule assembly
> is very robust and never shown any problems. I secure the wheel itself to
an
> electric winch cable (used to lower the plane down the ramp) and ratchet
> straps tightly to either side.
>
> I would be nervous travelling with the arse up like your picture - can you
> share your reasons? Also it looks like your rear inspection plates are
off,
> or is that a reflection in a shiny surface?
>
> Bob Brennan - N717GB
> ELSA Repairman, inspection rated
> 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
> Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
> Wrightsville Pa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kirk hull
> Sent: 03 January 2009 2:59 pm
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Trailering a Kitfox
>
> Attached is a picture of my classic 4 on her trailer. To steady the
> vertical I use a plywood brace that slides over the top like a big rigid
> sock. The elevator is secured in the full down position with a bungee in
> the cabin
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>
>
I have trailered many airplanes.as a savage company my friend owns.On my
trailer that I have plans drawn up by me..and then trailer built for me
by .a trailer company that I sell.we have hauled many airplanes through
out the country on my trailers.And most of them on back wards.with no
problems.as long as you have.tail tied down tight.And Stab+Rudder.so
they can not move around .by adding braces that i have made..my trailer
have moved C172,C170,C140,Tailer Crafts,KitFox,TriPacers,and a few
others with no problems at all.and speeds 50-65mph with no problems.back
wards and forwards.my trailer were made to haul air planes.but I like to
haul them backwards the best...Steve Shinabery N554KF KF2
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight - finally |
Congratulations Rick. My first flight in our S5 is still fresh enough for me to
know how you felt. What a plane! I'm currently flying the 50 hour test period
and will post performance details as they are established. Have about 10 hours
now. We've also got the 912 ULS. Will be interested to read your results. Due
to work and weather and the flying of other planes the testing is going slowly
but will pick up as the spring arrives.
Kerry.
Vienna Austria - Kitfox builders helper and pilot.
S5 912 ULS
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| Subject: | RE: 582 Exhaust wrap |
Wrap looks way cool on some motorcycles where it should stay. Wrapping
increases the temperature inside the exhaust system. No way to get around
that. Increased heat inside the wrap equals decreased life inside the wrap.
Heat shields allow you to do periodic inspections of your exhaust without
having to remove/replace the wrap and they do not increase the temperature
of the exhaust itself.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reilly
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:01 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: RE: 582 Exhaust wrap
Paul, Not too sure what the 4th power of delta T is, but I got the idea.
Thanks for the info. I think SS shields would be better idea than wrap.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:36:50 -0800
> Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: 582 Exhaust wrap
> From: paul@eucleides.com
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
<paul@eucleides.com>
>
> On Mon, January 5, 2009 4:34 pm, patrick reilly wrote:
> >
> > Gary, OK thanks for info. My heater hoses run within a couple inches of
the down pipe
> > and muffler. I hope there is enough space between them and the
muffler.Pat ReillyMod 3
>
> A reflector shield that has air blowing across it is very effective since
radiative
> heat transfer is proportional to the 4th power of delta T. The temperature
of the
> shield will be far lower than the exhaust and hence the heat transfer to
the surface
> of the heater hoses will be significantly reduced.
>
> I'd have some worries about pin hole exhaust leaks forming into the
fiberglass wrap
> that would convey some oil residue present in two stroke exhaust and
eventually
> becoming a fire hazard.
>
> So, my feeling is fabricate some aluminum shields that are attached to the
exhaust
> with SS clamps where protection is desired.
>
> --
> Paul A. Franz
> Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
> Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
> Belle=
>
>
>
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| Subject: | First Flight - finally |
Rick,
When she made me move from Chesapeake Ranch in Maryland, I told her I would
not move except to another airpark so we ended up at Dogwood. I think I
have her convinced to stay in airparks but I don't think I will ever
convince her to move to Florida, too many bugs for her and she hates the
heat. She wants to move to Texas or New Mexico. Talk about heat!! Next
time we are visiting in Florida, I will try to get her to stop in.
Mike
_____
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Weiss Richard
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First Flight - finally
Mike,
Thanks for the congrats. It is serial number 1 and it's always been a
taildragger. I did want a nose dragger so I started my next project, an
RV-7A. It's lots of fun so far.
Come on down to Spruce Creek while ya'll are having a 'wintery mix'. Today
was 80, but it's not always that warm. But no matter how bad it gets here,
it's always better than up there.
Show your wife our Fly-in. For the best look, Google us at Spruce Creek Fly
In or come down and visit.
Rick Weiss
N39RW Series V Speedster, 912ULS
SkyStar S/N 1
Port Orange, FL
On Jan 5, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Michael Logan wrote:
Congratulations on the nice flight and hope you have many more to come.
Why don't you fly back north to Dogwood Airpark and convince my wife of how
nice it is at your airpark in the land of warmth in the winter. I had to
insulate the hangar just to make it tolerable in the winter time. Growing
up in Georgia, I like the heat a lot better than the cold.
Mike Logan
Series 5
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| Subject: | Re: sight glass fuel indicator? |
Kinda late reply. Thanks for jogging my brain.
Anyway here are 2 more solutions:
http://www.cruzpro.com/fu30.html
Very cool and simple!!
and
http://www.northstarnav.com/en/Products/Fuel-Management/F210-Fuel/
Very popular. The "Northstar F210" is the same product as the "Navman
Fuel 2100". It has a new price and supplier.
Get these gadgets from the boat places.
Paul
========
At 12:40 PM 12/8/2008, Paul Morel wrote:
>
>Here's about the cheapest Fuel Flow system I found. I got it a
>little cheaper at Oshkosh this past summer and it's going in my Speedster.
>http://www.fdatasystems.com/
>
>Paul Morel
>Model IV Speedster
>Locust Grove, GA
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| Subject: | Mikuni Fuel Pump |
Kitfoxers, Some days it's 2 steps forward and 1 back. And, some days
it's 1 step forward and 2 back. Anybody got a source for the little
rubber button that retains the round diaphrams in the fuel pump, or do I
bite the bullit and order another rebuild kit. I managed to destroy one.
There must be a tool that is used to push those in without pushing
through the tip. I used a piece of 1/16 th inch wire and pushed it
through the tip of the button. I managed to get one in without damaging
it. Damn! If it ain't broke don't fix it. Now that I have the pump
completely apart the old parts look fine. How many preventive maint.
opeations actually leave the part in worse shape than before the maint
was performed?
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kitfox |
been biting my tongue on this one for awhile... Have any the rocket scientists
here bothered to look at what the factory designed for towing? These were designed
by the original engineers, and were made to tow the dang plane wings level.
I bet they were on to something when they came up with this hair brained
idea to tow a plane down a road...
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over.
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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| Subject: | Re: sight glass fuel indicator? |
I have the 210 and love it. Seems to be pretty dang accurate. It says within
5% out of the box, and it can be calibrated with a known quantity to get it within
2%. So far I have not seen a need to calibrate it any closer.
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over.
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I have a friend who tows his model V tail first using the tow bar as
designed. Seems to work just fine for him.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
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<akflyer_2000@yahoo.com<mailto:akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>>
been biting my tongue on this one for awhile... Have any the rocket
scientists here bothered to look at what the factory designed for
towing? These were designed by the original engineers, and were made to
tow the dang plane wings level. I bet they were on to something when
they came up with this hair brained idea to tow a plane down a road...
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes
over.
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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| Subject: | Re: Trailering a Kitfox |
The idea was good but towing a plane on its own main gear has a raft of
other problems that have been discussed to death here. You are spot on
though in noticing they always towed with the wings level. If memory serves
correctly the very first Avid was towed halfway across the continent and
back on its own gear.
Noel
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of akflyer
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:29 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Trailering a Kitfox
been biting my tongue on this one for awhile... Have any the rocket
scientists here bothered to look at what the factory designed for towing?
These were designed by the original engineers, and were made to tow the dang
plane wings level. I bet they were on to something when they came up with
this hair brained idea to tow a plane down a road...
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over.
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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| Subject: | Re: sight glass fuel indicator? |
Leonard:
Where did you buy it? $$$?
Noel
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of akflyer
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:36 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: sight glass fuel indicator?
I have the 210 and love it. Seems to be pretty dang accurate. It says
within 5% out of the box, and it can be calibrated with a known quantity to
get it within 2%. So far I have not seen a need to calibrate it any closer.
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over.
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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