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     1. 01:53 AM - Devils Tower (steve shinabery)
     2. 04:44 AM - Re: A $100 hamburger (Dee Young)
     3. 07:02 AM - John Beirne, trailer photos (Tom Jones)
     4. 07:39 AM - Re: Brake line fittings question... (Tom Jones)
     5. 07:48 AM - Re: A $100 hamburger (Lynn Matteson)
     6. 07:51 AM - Re: Devils Tower (Lynn Matteson)
     7. 08:41 AM - Re: Devils Tower (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
     8. 08:42 AM - Re: Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) (Noel Loveys)
     9. 08:50 AM - Re: Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) (Noel Loveys)
    10. 09:05 AM - Re: Re: Mogas revisited (Noel Loveys)
    11. 09:52 AM - Re: Devils Tower (Lynn Matteson)
    12. 10:04 AM - Re: A $100 hamburger (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
    13. 10:12 AM - Re: Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) (Lynn Matteson)
    14. 10:15 AM - Re: Re: A $100 hamburger (Lynn Matteson)
    15. 10:38 AM - Re: Re: Mogas revisitedMogas revisited (George Wells)
    16. 12:17 PM - Re: Mogas revisitedMogas revisited (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
    17. 01:26 PM - Re: Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) (Noel Loveys)
    18. 01:37 PM - Re: Re: A $100 hamburger (Randy Daughenbaugh)
    19. 01:54 PM - Re: Mogas revisitedMogas revisited (Roger Lee)
    20. 02:01 PM - Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) (Roger Lee)
    21. 02:08 PM - FS: Carb Synchro kit (darinh)
    22. 02:38 PM - Re: Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) (Lynn Matteson)
    23. 03:37 PM - Re: Devils Tower (patrick reilly)
    24. 03:54 PM - Mogas revisited ( Back on track) (fox5flyer)
    25. 04:03 PM - Snowshoes on struts (fox5flyer)
    26. 04:14 PM - Another great day to go flying. (Randy Daughenbaugh)
    27. 04:48 PM - Re: Snowshoes on struts (Lynn Matteson)
    28. 04:54 PM - Re: Snowshoes on struts (John W. Hart)
    29. 05:24 PM - Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) (Roger Lee)
    30. 07:45 PM - Re: FS: Carb Synchro kit (darinh)
    31. 07:47 PM - trailering your LSA - skip the trailer (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
    32. 07:51 PM - Re: Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
    33. 08:05 PM - Re: trailering your LSA - skip the trailer (AKFLYERBOB)
    34. 09:32 PM - Re: Re: trailering your LSA - skip the trailer (Lynn Matteson)
    35. 10:16 PM - Re: trailering your LSA - skip the trailer (AKFLYERBOB)
    36. 10:23 PM - Re: Snowshoes on struts (AKFLYERBOB)
 
 
 
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      RANDY,thanks 4 the picture,,what a great one...Wish I could of been 
      there all so...I am tired of the snow.app 7".here in Ohio...and cold app 
      5deg this morr...Burr,it is cold...to cold to do any thing....Steve 
      Shinabery,St.Marys Ohio,,N554KF   KF2
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: A $100 hamburger | 
      
      Excellent, thanks for sharing.
      
      Dee
      Do not archive
      
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| Subject:  | John Beirne, trailer photos | 
      
      
      John, Attached are a few photos of my kitfox trailer.  I couldn't attach them in
      a reply to PM, so here they are.  Others may be interested anyhow.
      
      It is an old two place snowmobile trailer.  I replaced the tongue with one 16 feet
      long.  There is a little hand crank boat winch on the front of the tongue
      to crank the Kitfox up onto the deck.  I set the tail on the deck before folding
      the wings.
      
      If I was starting from scratch I think I would design a trailer so that the kitfox
      would sit lower to the ground like you see some of the modified boat trailers.
      I just used this trailer because I already had it on hand.
      
      Here is a link to the Trailers/towing section on the Sportflight web site if 
      you haven't found that yet.
      http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=main&category=Trailers/Towing
      
      Let me know if you need more details.  I would be happy to snap more photos if
      you need some.
      Tom Jones
      
      --------
      Tom Jones
      Classic IV
      503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
      Ellensburg, WA
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228642#228642
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/winch_attachment_to_tail_spring_213.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/wheel_tie_down_199.jpg
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      http://forums.matronics.com//files/loading2_829.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/loading1_208.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/empty_trailer_178.jpg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Brake line fittings question... | 
      
      
      
      > I've started work on the Brakes and over the years have managed to lose a few
      Brass poly-flo fittings. Does it matter if the fittings with the "brass" sleeves
      OR the "nylon" sleeves are used, or is one one or the other required using
      the Nylaflo pressure tubing. 
      
      
      Clem, at less than a dollar each I would stick with the brass fittings with the
      captive sleeve.  Thats what was supplied with my kit.
      
      Here they are in Aircraft Spruce.
      http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/polyflofittings.php
      
      --------
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      Classic IV
      503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
      Ellensburg, WA
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: A $100 hamburger | 
      
      
      Good report, Randy....I was gonna pass by the Tower on my way home  
      from California in 2007, but got homesick and didn't take the time.  
      Now I've got a reason to go back there.
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
      Sensenich 62x46
      Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      New skis done and flying
      do not archive
      
      
      On Feb 4, 2009, at 10:38 PM, Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
      
      > Its been a cold winter and the forecast for today was near 60 F,  
      > so I called a friend and he joined me for a flight for a Hamburger.
      >
      >
      > We left the ranch about 10:00 and flew around his vacation house in  
      > Wyoming on the way to Hewlett Wyoming. We also went by Devils Tower  
      > before we landed.  I thought I would send a picture out.  It is not  
      > from the normal tourist angle.
      >
      >
      > Randy
      >
      > Series 5/7 912S Warpdrive
      >
      > Near Mount Rushmore in South Dakota
      >
      >
      > <image002.jpg>
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Devils Tower | 
      
      
      That ain't cold, Steve, our 13 below 0, F is cold, and somebody will  
      surely top that. : )  We are looking at the high 40's this weekend  
      and rain, so some/a lot of our 12-14" of snow will bid us buh-bye,  
      I'm sure.
      
      Not too cold to build some skis, Steve...hint, hint.
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
      Sensenich 62x46
      Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      New skis done and flying
      do not archive
      
      
      On Feb 5, 2009, at 4:53 AM, steve shinabery wrote:
      
      >
      > RANDY,thanks 4 the picture,,what a great one...Wish I could of been  
      > there all so...I am tired of the snow.app 7".here in Ohio...and  
      > cold app 5deg this morr...Burr,it is cold...to cold to do any  
      > thing....Steve Shinabery,St.Marys Ohio,,N554KF   KF2
      >
      >
      
      
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      You asked for it Lynn=2C  a weather observer near me reported that last Sat
      urday was the first time it got above freezing since November.  I know it h
      as been colder than usual this year up here in northern Mn. We have about 2
       feet of snow on the ground now.  I think I better go stoke the wood stove 
      again.   Jim Chuk  Avid MK IV  Mn> From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kit
      fox-List: Devils Tower> Date: Thu=2C 5 Feb 2009 10:51:16 -0500> To: kitfox-
      nmatt@jps.net>> > That ain't cold=2C Steve=2C our 13 below 0=2C F is cold
      =2C and somebody will > surely top that. : ) We are looking at the high 40'
      s this weekend > and rain=2C so some/a lot of our 12-14" of snow will bid u
      s buh-bye=2C > I'm sure.> > Not too cold to build some skis=2C Steve...hint
      =2C hint.> > Lynn Matteson> Kitfox IV Speedster=2C taildragger> Jabiru 2200
      =2C #2062=2C 605 hrs> Sensenich 62x46> Electroair direct-fire ignition syst
      em> New skis done and flying> do not archive> > > > On Feb 5=2C 2009=2C at 
      teve shinabery <shinco@bright.net>> >> > RANDY=2Cthanks 4 the picture=2C=2C
      what a great one...Wish I could of been > > there all so...I am tired of th
      e snow.app 7".here in Ohio...and > > cold app 5deg this morr...Burr=2Cit is
       cold...to cold to do any > > thing....Steve Shinabery=2CSt.Marys Ohio=2C
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| Subject:  | Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) | 
      
      There is one other answer to the ethanol attacking the tanks.  I have no
      idea about the cost but the tanks are rotary moulded from ethanol proof
      plastic.
      
      The idea is you can take a portion of the skins off the top of your wings,
      remove the tops of your existing tanks and drop these tanks in.  Not
      counting the recovering it should take less than a couple of hours to refit
      your existing tanks.  There is a loss of volume and no doubt a pound or so
      weight penalty but it is a way of protecting from having part of your tanks
      found in your carb(s) without having to completely rebuild your wing(s)
      
      
      Noel
      
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gilbey69
      Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 6:03 PM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track)
      
      
      not so on the ethanol in NC steve,i was using BP gas in wilmington nc to
      fuel up my rv6,as it used to be free from it, when i was using it to fill up
      my kitfox speedster when i had it,formerly in fayetteville nc,lived in
      wilmington for the past year, so was using it here for the 6,i started to
      keep a check on it here for the last few months,went to fill up one day a
      couple of months ago and lo and behold,on checking before filling up, i had
      10 per cent ethanel in it,just glad i checked that batch,no where on the
      tanks is it listed as having same,a neighbor and i started checking the
      stations here and talking to some dealers, at this point only one dealer in
      this town has gas without it in it, and he advertises it,i have yet to find
      another station here that sells it, nor a station to show it as having
      ethanal on there pumps,another pilot in the community here that i live in
      states that he was told its not manadtory by the federal gov. to do so,nor
      the states, the only way to find out for sure is to check the gas as you buy
      it,the gas is not shipped with it in,its put in it here before its
      delievered to the pumps,as specified by the dealer,where ever he gets it
      from,
      
      frank goggio
      
      wilmington nc
      
      rv6a
      
      former kitfox owner
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) | 
      
      Oops! I forgot the link to the tanks
      
      
      http://www.wingtanks.com
      
      
      This, to me, seems to take care of the biggest problem with ethanol fuel.
      Now the only thing left is a way to keep the fuel from cooling too much in
      flight, there by eliminating the possibility of a phase separation.
      
      
      Any ideas? Temperature gauges in the fuel?  Small 1/16" ID tubes passing
      through the tanks that some of the coolant either before or after the rad
      could be channelled through.  I'm not talking about boiling the gas... just
      keeping it at say 65F.
      
      
      Noel
      
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gilbey69
      Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 6:03 PM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track)
      
      
      not so on the ethanol in NC steve,i was using BP gas in wilmington nc to
      fuel up my rv6,as it used to be free from it, when i was using it to fill up
      my kitfox speedster when i had it,formerly in fayetteville nc,lived in
      wilmington for the past year, so was using it here for the 6,i started to
      keep a check on it here for the last few months,went to fill up one day a
      couple of months ago and lo and behold,on checking before filling up, i had
      10 per cent ethanel in it,just glad i checked that batch,no where on the
      tanks is it listed as having same,a neighbor and i started checking the
      stations here and talking to some dealers, at this point only one dealer in
      this town has gas without it in it, and he advertises it,i have yet to find
      another station here that sells it, nor a station to show it as having
      ethanal on there pumps,another pilot in the community here that i live in
      states that he was told its not manadtory by the federal gov. to do so,nor
      the states, the only way to find out for sure is to check the gas as you buy
      it,the gas is not shipped with it in,its put in it here before its
      delievered to the pumps,as specified by the dealer,where ever he gets it
      from,
      
      frank goggio
      
      wilmington nc
      
      rv6a
      
      former kitfox owner
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mogas revisited | 
      
      
      Or hang out here a while
      Wink- wink
      
      Noel
      
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      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Lee
      Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:23 PM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Mogas revisited
      
      
      Hi Noel,
      
      According to all that is written from the fuel companies and people in the
      industry they can't make unleaded fuels yet over 96 octane without the other
      unwanted things like lead, ethanol or methanol. I had to do a research
      project on fuels a year ago and I learned this at that time. We use 91
      Octane because of our compression ratio in the 912 100 hp. being higher than
      the 912 80 hp. The 91 octane sit time is about 3 weeks, then you are losing
      octane and additives through evaporation even if you have a lid on the
      container. Gas vaporizes at -45F. Semi synthetic oil is for 100LL and either
      semi or full synthetic for 91. Full synthetic does not suspend lead and it
      falls out in the gearbox and crankcase. You should not be letting plugs run
      to 150 hr. Rotax schools recommend 75 for 91 octane and 50 for 100LL use. No
      where in any manual has Rotax ever had 150 plug change. It used to be 100
      hrs. years ago, but is taught different now. Fuel scavengers like Decalin
      does help Rotax 91!
       2's. It helps keep the lead soft and helps keep it off everything in the
      cylinder( i.e. plugs, valves, valve seats, cyl. heads). This scavenger
      should help blow more out the exhaust. 
      
      I would recommend that all that do their own work go to a Rotax service
      school and a line maint school. These are two day schools and $500 each.
       A&P's really need to go.   [Wink]
      
      --------
      Roger Lee
      Tucson, Az.
      Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
      Rotax Service Center
      520-574-1080
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Devils Tower | 
      
      
      I think this has been a long, cold winter for a lot of us....we are  
      on a record-setting pace for snowfall here in southern Lower  
      Michigan. I'v really been getting my money's worth out of these skis,  
      unlike the previous 2 years, where half the time I could have chanced  
      flying without them.
      
      Two feet, eh? That would be enough to make me think twice about  
      venturing out. Not so much as to whether the plane could handle that  
      much depth, but whether the pilot could, if he had to get out and  
      walk. I gotta get some snowshoes to hang on the struts....they look  
      so cool!! (but probably illegal, so says my CFI, the kill-joy!)
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
      Sensenich 62x46
      Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      New skis done and flying
      do not archive
      
      
      On Feb 5, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:
      
      > You asked for it Lynn,  a weather observer near me reported that  
      > last Saturday was the first time it got above freezing since  
      > November.  I know it has been colder than usual this year up here  
      > in northern Mn. We have about 2 feet of snow on the ground now.  I  
      > think I better go stoke the wood stove again.   Jim Chuk  Avid MK  
      > IV  Mn
      >
      > > From: lynnmatt@jps.net
      > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Devils Tower
      > > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:51:16 -0500
      > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > >
      > >
      > > That ain't cold, Steve, our 13 below 0, F is cold, and somebody will
      > > surely top that. : ) We are looking at the high 40's this weekend
      > > and rain, so some/a lot of our 12-14" of snow will bid us buh-bye,
      > > I'm sure.
      > >
      > > Not too cold to build some skis, Steve...hint, hint.
      > >
      > > Lynn Matteson
      > > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      > > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
      > > Sensenich 62x46
      > > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      > > New skis done and flying
      > > do not archive
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > On Feb 5, 2009, at 4:53 AM, steve shinabery wrote:
      > >
      > <shinco@bright.net>
      > > >
      > > > RANDY,thanks 4 the picture,,what a great one...Wish I could of  
      > been
      > > > there all so...I am tired of the snow.app 7".here in Ohio...and
      > > > cold app 5deg this morr...Burr,it is cold...to cold to do any
      > > > thing....Steve Shinabery,St.Marys Ohio,,N554KF KF2
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| Subject:  | Re: A $100 hamburger | 
      
      
      
      rjdaugh wrote:
      > 
      > We left the ranch about 10:00 and flew around his vacation house in Wyoming on
      the way to Hewlett Wyoming.  We also went by Devils Tower before we landed.
      I thought I would send a picture out.  It is not from the normal tourist angle.
      
      
      
      Nice photo Randy. I'd be a bit worried about posting it though. Did you know about
      this:
      
      [http://www.nps.gov/deto/planyourvisit/upload/DETO%20No%20Fly%20Advisory%20Bulletin-Final.pdf]
      
      There's a no-fly zone 2 miles around Devil's Tower, 3 miles in June.
      
      --------
      Paul A. Franz, P.E.
      Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
      Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
      Bellevue WA
      425.241.1618 Cell
      425.440.9505 Office
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) | 
      
      
      "Should be able to do in an afternoon"? Must live above the Arctic  
      Circle where the afternoons are 6 months long, I'm thinking. Looks  
      like a doable fix for a bad tank, though.
      At what temperature does this "phase separation" occur?
      Man, I don't want to go through all this just to avoid using  
      100LL....and I won't...as long as I can possibly help it. Damn the  
      Government and their stinkin' ethanol!
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
      Sensenich 62x46
      Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      New skis done and flying
      
      
      On Feb 5, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Noel Loveys wrote:
      
      > Oops! I forgot the link to the tanks
      >
      >
      > http://www.wingtanks.com
      >
      >
      > This, to me, seems to take care of the biggest problem with ethanol  
      > fuel.  Now the only thing left is a way to keep the fuel from  
      > cooling too much in flight, there by eliminating the possibility of  
      > a phase separation.
      >
      >
      > Any ideas? Temperature gauges in the fuel?  Small 1/16 ID tubes  
      > passing through the tanks that some of the coolant either before or  
      > after the rad could be channelled through.  Im not talking about  
      > boiling the gas... just keeping it at say 65F.
      >
      >
      > Noel
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: A $100 hamburger | 
      
      
      I'm thinking that looks like just about 2 miles, Paul....maybe more  
      with the telephoto lens that he used and all.  : )
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
      Sensenich 62x46
      Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      New skis done and flying
      do not archive
      
      
      On Feb 5, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Paul A. Franz, P.E. wrote:
      
      > <paul@eucleides.com>
      >
      >
      > rjdaugh wrote:
      >>
      >> We left the ranch about 10:00 and flew around his vacation house  
      >> in Wyoming on the way to Hewlett Wyoming.  We also went by Devils  
      >> Tower before we landed.  I thought I would send a picture out.  It  
      >> is not from the normal tourist angle.
      >
      >
      > Nice photo Randy. I'd be a bit worried about posting it though. Did  
      > you know about this:
      >
      > [http://www.nps.gov/deto/planyourvisit/upload/DETO%20No%20Fly% 
      > 20Advisory%20Bulletin-Final.pdf]
      >
      > There's a no-fly zone 2 miles around Devil's Tower, 3 miles in June.
      >
      > --------
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mogas revisitedMogas revisited | 
      
      What if I buy regular unleaded ( winh no Eathanol) 87 oct. and mix it 
      half & Half with 100LL will I come up with arround 95 oct. with half the 
      Lead ??
      Thanks
      George
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mogas revisitedMogas revisited | 
      
      
      
      oscardog wrote:
      > What if I buy regular unleaded ( winh no Eathanol)  87 oct. and mix it half &
      Half with 100LL will I come up with arround  95 oct. with half the Lead ??
      >  Thanks
      >  George
      > 
      
      
      You're mixing numbers from more than one Octane rating system. 100LL would not
      have a 100 Octane rating with the system that displays numbers at the pumps in
      the US.
      
      
      > In most countries (including all of Europe and Australia) the "headline" octane
      rating, shown on the pump, is the RON, but in the United States, Canada and
      some other countries the headline number is the average of the RON and the MON,
      sometimes called the Anti-Knock Index (AKI), Road Octane Number (RdON), Pump
      Octane Number (PON), or (R+M)/2. Because of the 8 to 10 point difference noted
      above, the octane rating shown in the United States is 4 to 5 points lower
      than the same fuel elsewhere: 87 octane fuel, the "regular" gasoline in the US
      and Canada, is 9192 in Europe. However most European pumps deliver 95 (RON) as
      "unleaded", equivalent to 9091 US (R+M)/2, and some even deliver 98 (RON), 100
      (RON), or 102 (RON).[2] 
      
      
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
      
      Which should provide additional information.
      
      Also see this for more detailed information on gasoline content.
      
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline
      
      Here is a very comprehensive FAQ on gasoline and should dispel a number of myths
      recently promulgated on this list.
      
      http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasoline-faq/part1/preamble.html
      
      --------
      Paul A. Franz, P.E.
      Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
      Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
      Bellevue WA
      425.241.1618 Cell
      425.440.9505 Office
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228713#228713
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) | 
      
      
      I did say except for the recovering :-)
      
      In the summer the sun sets a few minutes after 9:00p.m. but it isn't exactly
      what you would call dark until around 10:30p.m.
      
      Noel
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
      Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:42 PM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track)
      
      
      "Should be able to do in an afternoon"? Must live above the Arctic  
      Circle where the afternoons are 6 months long, I'm thinking. Looks  
      like a doable fix for a bad tank, though.
      At what temperature does this "phase separation" occur?
      Man, I don't want to go through all this just to avoid using  
      100LL....and I won't...as long as I can possibly help it. Damn the  
      Government and their stinkin' ethanol!
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
      Sensenich 62x46
      Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      New skis done and flying
      
      
      On Feb 5, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Noel Loveys wrote:
      
      > Oops! I forgot the link to the tanks
      >
      >
      > http://www.wingtanks.com
      >
      >
      > This, to me, seems to take care of the biggest problem with ethanol  
      > fuel.  Now the only thing left is a way to keep the fuel from  
      > cooling too much in flight, there by eliminating the possibility of  
      > a phase separation.
      >
      >
      > Any ideas? Temperature gauges in the fuel?  Small 1/16" ID tubes  
      > passing through the tanks that some of the coolant either before or  
      > after the rad could be channelled through.  I'm not talking about  
      > boiling the gas... just keeping it at say 65F.
      >
      >
      > Noel
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: A $100 hamburger | 
      
      
      I like the way your think Lynn!
      
      Actually we have photographic proof that we were about 4 miles away.  Those
      peaks in the foreground of my picture are the Missouri Buttes.  
      
      But thanks Paul!  I was not aware of that restriction.  I was out flying
      again today.  Will try to post another picture or two.
      
      Randy
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
      Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 11:16 AM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: A $100 hamburger
      
      
      I'm thinking that looks like just about 2 miles, Paul....maybe more  
      with the telephoto lens that he used and all.  : )
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
      Sensenich 62x46
      Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      New skis done and flying
      do not archive
      
      
      On Feb 5, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Paul A. Franz, P.E. wrote:
      
      > <paul@eucleides.com>
      >
      >
      > rjdaugh wrote:
      >>
      >> We left the ranch about 10:00 and flew around his vacation house  
      >> in Wyoming on the way to Hewlett Wyoming.  We also went by Devils  
      >> Tower before we landed.  I thought I would send a picture out.  It  
      >> is not from the normal tourist angle.
      >
      >
      > Nice photo Randy. I'd be a bit worried about posting it though. Did  
      > you know about this:
      >
      > [http://www.nps.gov/deto/planyourvisit/upload/DETO%20No%20Fly% 
      > 20Advisory%20Bulletin-Final.pdf]
      >
      > There's a no-fly zone 2 miles around Devil's Tower, 3 miles in June.
      >
      > --------
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mogas revisitedMogas revisited | 
      
      
      Yes you can mix 100LL with 87 octane. No more than 50% 87. If you error do it on
      the side of the 100LL like 60% 100LL and 40% 87. The 50/50 rule is taught in
      Rotax schools. It will give you an appropriate octane for your 912ULS. People
      have been using this rule for years.
      
      --------
      Roger Lee
      Tucson, Az.
      Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
      Rotax Service Center
      520-574-1080
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228733#228733
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) | 
      
      
      So you don't have to tear up a wing covering why not just pull the wing and slosh
      the tanks with Kreem Weiss. It is easy, it sticks to anything plastics or metals,
      it is used worldwide in all kinds of fuel tanks. Flight Design uses it
      in all their planes. It is used in the aircraft industry, automotive and the motorcycle
      industry. It is impervious to all fuels, oils and fluids. It is very
      easy to use and it will make your tank dang near bullet proof for any leaks and
      help a little on the insulation factor. It does not chip or flake. 
      Good stuff!
      
      --------
      Roger Lee
      Tucson, Az.
      Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
      Rotax Service Center
      520-574-1080
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228736#228736
      
      
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| Subject:  | FS: Carb Synchro kit | 
      
      
      I am selling my pneumatic synchro kit because I am upgrading to a digital unit.
      This is the kit you can purchase from California Power Systems or Lockwood (Link
      to CPS page below)
      http://www.rotaxparts.net/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=1297
      
      It has been used 4 or 5 times and is basically in new condition.  Everything listed
      in the link above comes with it as well as extra tubing & fittings to extend
      the leads back further away from the rotating prop.  Paid $80 for it, would
      like to get $55 shipped to your door.
      
      --------
      Darin Hawkes
      Series 7 
      914 Turbo
      Kaysville, Utah
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228738#228738
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) | 
      
      
      It works for me...for the last 3 years, anyway, but no ethanol has  
      ever touched my lips.....er, my tanks, I mean. Seriously, I think the  
      whole thing with Kreem is to do a GOOD job of getting the old stuff  
      completely washed out, and the new stuff thoroughly impregnated into  
      the CLEAN inner surface of the tank.
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
      Sensenich 62x46
      Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      New skis done and flying
      
      
      On Feb 5, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Roger Lee wrote:
      
      >
      > So you don't have to tear up a wing covering why not just pull the  
      > wing and slosh the tanks with Kreem Weiss. It is easy, it sticks to  
      > anything plastics or metals, it is used worldwide in all kinds of  
      > fuel tanks. Flight Design uses it in all their planes. It is used  
      > in the aircraft industry, automotive and the motorcycle industry.  
      > It is impervious to all fuels, oils and fluids. It is very easy to  
      > use and it will make your tank dang near bullet proof for any leaks  
      > and help a little on the insulation factor. It does not chip or flake.
      > Good stuff!
      >
      > --------
      > Roger Lee
      >
      
      
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      Yeah=2C It's a year colder than normal because of global warming Al Gore sa
      ys.
      do not archivePat ReillyMod 3 582 RebuildRockford=2C IL> From: lynnmatt@jps
      .net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Devils Tower> Date: Thu=2C 5 Feb 2009 12:51
      :56 -0500> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > --> Kitfox-List message posted 
      by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>> > I think this has been a long=2C col
      d winter for a lot of us....we are > on a record-setting pace for snowfall 
      here in southern Lower > Michigan. I'v really been getting my money's worth
       out of these skis=2C > unlike the previous 2 years=2C where half the time 
      I could have chanced > flying without them.> > Two feet=2C eh? That would b
      e enough to make me think twice about > venturing out. Not so much as to wh
      ether the plane could handle that > much depth=2C but whether the pilot cou
      ld=2C if he had to get out and > walk. I gotta get some snowshoes to hang o
      n the struts....they look > so cool!! (but probably illegal=2C so says my C
      FI=2C the kill-joy!)> > Lynn Matteson> Kitfox IV Speedster=2C taildragger> 
      Jabiru 2200=2C #2062=2C 605 hrs> Sensenich 62x46> Electroair direct-fire ig
      nition system> New skis done and flying> do not archive> > > > On Feb 5=2C 
      2009=2C at 11:41 AM=2C Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:> > > You asked for it Lynn
      =2C a weather observer near me reported that > > last Saturday was the firs
      t time it got above freezing since > > November. I know it has been colder 
      than usual this year up here > > in northern Mn. We have about 2 feet of sn
      ow on the ground now. I > > think I better go stoke the wood stove again. J
      im Chuk Avid MK > > IV Mn> >> > > From: lynnmatt@jps.net> > > Subject: Re: 
      Kitfox-List: Devils Tower> > > Date: Thu=2C 5 Feb 2009 10:51:16 -0500> > > 
      Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>> > >> > > That ain't cold=2C Steve=2C our 
      13 below 0=2C F is cold=2C and somebody will> > > surely top that. : ) We a
      re looking at the high 40's this weekend> > > and rain=2C so some/a lot of 
      our 12-14" of snow will bid us buh-bye=2C> > > I'm sure.> > >> > > Not too 
      cold to build some skis=2C Steve...hint=2C hint.> > >> > > Lynn Matteson> >
       > Kitfox IV Speedster=2C taildragger> > > Jabiru 2200=2C #2062=2C 605 hrs>
       > > Sensenich 62x46> > > Electroair direct-fire ignition system> > > New s
      kis done and flying> > > do not archive> > >> > >> > >> > > On Feb 5=2C 200
      9=2C at 4:53 AM=2C steve shinabery wrote:> > >> > > > --> Kitfox-List messa
      ge posted by: steve shinabery > > <shinco@bright.net>> > > >> > > > RANDY
      =2Cthanks 4 the picture=2C=2Cwhat a great one...Wish I could of > > been> >
       > > there all so...I am tired of the snow.app 7".here in Ohio...and> > > >
       cold app 5deg this morr...Burr=2Cit is cold...to cold to do any> > > > thi
      ng....Steve Shinabery=2CSt.Marys Ohio=2C=2CN554KF KF2> > > >> > > >> > Arch
      ive Search & Download=2C 7-Day Browse=2C Chat=2C FAQ=2C> > >===> > >>
       > >> > >> >> > Windows Live=99: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to conn
      ect. Check > > it out._- > > ===============
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| Subject:  | Mogas revisited ( Back on track) | 
      
      
      Exactly, Lynn.
      If I may add, after the tank is "CLEAN" and dry, mix the Kreem 50/50 MEK 
      before sloshing.  It flows much better and you only need a very thin coat 
      anyway.  Just don't miss any spots.
      Deke
      warming up in NE MI.  currently 15f at 1850
      
      do not archive
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
      Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:35 PM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track)
      
      
      >
      > It works for me...for the last 3 years, anyway, but no ethanol has  ever 
      > touched my lips.....er, my tanks, I mean. Seriously, I think the  whole 
      > thing with Kreem is to do a GOOD job of getting the old stuff  completely 
      > washed out, and the new stuff thoroughly impregnated into  the CLEAN inner 
      > surface of the tank.
      >
      > Lynn Matteson
      > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
      > Sensenich 62x46
      > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      > New skis done and flying
      >
      >
      > On Feb 5, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Roger Lee wrote:
      >
      >>
      >> So you don't have to tear up a wing covering why not just pull the  wing 
      >> and slosh the tanks with Kreem Weiss. It is easy, it sticks to  anything 
      >> plastics or metals, it is used worldwide in all kinds of  fuel tanks. 
      >> Flight Design uses it in all their planes. It is used  in the aircraft 
      >> industry, automotive and the motorcycle industry.  It is impervious to 
      >> all fuels, oils and fluids. It is very easy to  use and it will make your 
      >> tank dang near bullet proof for any leaks  and help a little on the 
      >> insulation factor. It does not chip or flake.
      >> Good stuff!
      >>
      >> --------
      >> Roger Lee
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Snowshoes on struts | 
      
      I would ask my CFI to quote the reg that says it's illegal, Lynn.  
      Actually, it's a pretty good question though.  Perhaps, if he's back in 
      town, Snake Man can answer that one.
      And, Pat, I believe it's now called "climate change".  So it goes...
      Deke
      NE MI S5 and looking for some snow melt  
      do not archive
      
      
        Yeah, It's a year colder than normal because of global warming Al Gore 
      says.
        do not archive
      
        Pat Reilly
        Mod 3 582 Rebuild
        Rockford, IL
      
      
        > 
        > I think this has been a long, cold winter for a lot of us....we are 
        > on a record-setting pace for snowfall here in southern Lower 
        > Michigan. I'v really been getting my money's worth out of these 
      skis, 
        > unlike the previous 2 years, where half the time I could have 
      chanced 
        > flying without them.
        > 
        > Two feet, eh? That would be enough to make me think twice about 
        > venturing out. Not so much as to whether the plane could handle that 
      
        > much depth, but whether the pilot could, if he had to get out and 
        > walk. I gotta get some snowshoes to hang on the struts....they look 
        > so cool!! (but probably illegal, so says my CFI, the kill-joy!)
        > 
        > Lynn Matteson
        > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
        > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
        > Sensenich 62x46
        > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
        > New skis done and flying
        > do not archive
      
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| Subject:  | Another great day to go flying. | 
      
      Thanks for all the nice comments from the picture of Devils Tower yesterday.
      
      Today was another great day and my wife wanted to go fly some place so we
      went to Cedar Butte in the Badlands to scout some pathways to climb to the
      top of it.  We neglected to take any pictures of it - the top looks like a
      runway and a crosswind runway - but we took some pictures on our way to Wall
      Drug for lunch.
      
      
      I get nervous flying over some of this, but usually there are some flat
      spots that would work for a ktifox glider.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Snowshoes on struts | 
      
      
      I seem to recall him saying that anything that is strapped onto the  
      outside of the plane is "illegal carrying of cargo" or something like  
      that. No use asking the Snake Man, those guys in the 49th State have  
      been getting away with murder (figure of speech) for years, so I've  
      read anyway. The way I've read about the early bush-country flying is  
      that they have an unspoken rule up there that the FAA looks the other  
      way and pretty much allow whatever the pilot can get on board as  
      "legal".
      One account I read...I believe it was in "Wager with the wind...the  
      Don Sheldon story", but I can't be sure....told of an FAA guy who  
      busted a pilot for carrying either too heavy a load, or carrying it  
      outside of the plane, or something that the "book" said was against  
      the rules, and it wasn't too long before the FAA guy was soon  
      spending his time in some remote God-forsaken outpost doing menial  
      duty.  This may have changed over the years, and maybe someone from  
      Alaska might shed some light on the current practice....or on the  
      carrying of cargo outside the plane, for that matter.
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
      Sensenich 62x46
      Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      New skis done and flying
      
      
      On Feb 5, 2009, at 7:02 PM, fox5flyer wrote:
      
      > I would ask my CFI to quote the reg that says it's illegal, Lynn.   
      > Actually, it's a pretty good question though.  Perhaps, if he's  
      > back in town, Snake Man can answer that one.
      > And, Pat, I believe it's now called "climate change".  So it goes...
      > Deke
      > NE MI S5 and looking for some snow melt
      > do not archive
      >
      >
      > Yeah, It's a year colder than normal because of global warming Al  
      > Gore says.
      > do not archive
      >
      > Pat Reilly
      > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
      > Rockford, IL
      >
      >
      > >
      > > I think this has been a long, cold winter for a lot of us....we are
      > > on a record-setting pace for snowfall here in southern Lower
      > > Michigan. I'v really been getting my money's worth out of these  
      > skis,
      > > unlike the previous 2 years, where half the time I could have  
      > chanced
      > > flying without them.
      > >
      > > Two feet, eh? That would be enough to make me think twice about
      > > venturing out. Not so much as to whether the plane could handle that
      > > much depth, but whether the pilot could, if he had to get out and
      > > walk. I gotta get some snowshoes to hang on the struts....they look
      > > so cool!! (but probably illegal, so says my CFI, the kill-joy!)
      > >
      > > Lynn Matteson
      > > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      > > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
      > > Sensenich 62x46
      > > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      > > New skis done and flying
      > > do not archive
      > ============================================================ _- 
      > ============================================================ _- 
      > contribution_- 
      > ===========================================================
      
      
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| Subject:  | Snowshoes on struts | 
      
        The manufacturer of a certificated aircraft must publish an owner/operator
      manual, and a certificated aircraft can have no modifications to it that are
      not in the Type Certificate Data Sheet, unless such modifications are
      covered by a Supplemental Type Certificate or field approval on a 337 Form.
      External loads must comply with the above documents on certificated
      aircraft.  
      
      
      Experimental aircraft do not fall under the above mentioned rules.  The
      manufacturer  (builder) of an Experimental aircraft determines the way in
      which the aircraft may be used, i.e., external loads.  If the Operating
      Limitations for a given Experimental aircraft prohibit external loads, then
      the prohibition applies.  As is the case with tires, floats, etc. that a
      builder wants to use on an Experimental aircraft, external loads may be
      carried if the builder wants to determine the safe loading of the external
      load to include weight and balance, makes the appropriate entries in the
      logbook, flies the aircraft so loaded the requisite time determined by
      either the particular configuration (usually 5 hours) or as determined by
      the FSDO.  Once the requisite flight time is completed and the appropriate
      logbook entries are made, have fun.
      
      
      This same subject came up while I worked at the Anchorage FSDO concerning
      hauling a snomachine (snowmobile) bolted to the fuselage of an Experimental
      copy of a Super Cub.  The guy completed the paperwork and as far as I know
      is still flying his snowmachine out to the bush in the winter  in interior
      Alaska.  I quit working there in 1999. 
      
      
      John Hart  
      
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer
      Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:02 PM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Snowshoes on struts
      
      
      I would ask my CFI to quote the reg that says it's illegal, Lynn.  Actually,
      it's a pretty good question though.  Perhaps, if he's back in town, Snake
      Man can answer that one.
      
      And, Pat, I believe it's now called "climate change".  So it goes...
      
      Deke
      
      NE MI S5 and looking for some snow melt  
      
      do not archive
      
      
      Yeah, It's a year colder than normal because of global warming Al Gore says.
      do not archive
      
      Pat Reilly
      Mod 3 582 Rebuild
      Rockford, IL
      
      
      > 
      > I think this has been a long, cold winter for a lot of us....we are 
      > on a record-setting pace for snowfall here in southern Lower 
      > Michigan. I'v really been getting my money's worth out of these skis, 
      > unlike the previous 2 years, where half the time I could have chanced 
      > flying without them.
      > 
      > Two feet, eh? That would be enough to make me think twice about 
      > venturing out. Not so much as to whether the plane could handle that 
      > much depth, but whether the pilot could, if he had to get out and 
      > walk. I gotta get some snowshoes to hang on the struts....they look 
      > so cool!! (but probably illegal, so says my CFI, the kill-joy!)
      > 
      > Lynn Matteson
      > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
      > Sensenich 62x46
      > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      > New skis done and flying
      > do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) | 
      
      
      Rotax Operators manual page. See attached and center of page.
      
      --------
      Roger Lee
      Tucson, Az.
      Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
      Rotax Service Center
      520-574-1080
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228778#228778
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/912_operators_manual_108.pdf
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FS: Carb Synchro kit | 
      
      
      Looks like it has been sold.
      
      --------
      Darin Hawkes
      Series 7 
      914 Turbo
      Kaysville, Utah
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228800#228800
      
      
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| Subject:  | trailering your LSA - skip the trailer | 
      
      
      How about an LSA that needs no trailer to get it to the airport? In fact, you just
      drive it from your garage to the airport. Weathered in? Heck, just drive a leg
      of the
      trip.
      
      <http://www.terrafugia.com/aircraft.html>
      
      You can have it for about the price of a Kitfox, the trailer and the car to pull
      it.
      and you can have one later this year. Rotax 912UL powered. Not a tricycle gear
      either,
      nor is it a tail dragger. It's front wheel drive!
      
      -- 
      Paul A. Franz
      Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
      Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
      Bellevue WA
      425.241.1618 Cell
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mogas revisited ( Back on track) | 
      
      
      On Thu, February 5, 2009 5:23 pm, Roger Lee wrote:
      
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228778#228778
      
      Somehow that one didn't make it to the forum.
      
      > Attachments:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/912_operators_manual_108.pdf
      
      No joy, that one didn't make it either. Even stripping the double slash back one,
      didn't help.
      
      -- 
      Paul A. Franz
      Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
      Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
      Bellevue WA
      425.241.1618 Cell
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: trailering your LSA - skip the trailer | 
      
      
      I sure didn't pay 194 thousand for my kitfox, 
      even both of them together
      
      --------
      Bob Wolfe..Soldotna, Alaska
      KF Mod I and III
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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| Subject:  | Re: trailering your LSA - skip the trailer | 
      
      
      Hey Bob, any thoughts on the thread about strapping stuff outside  
      your airplane, especially a Kitfox, and flying? The subject is called  
      "Snowshoes on struts"
      I'm looking for input from guys in Alaska, where the rules were  
      seemingly a little more relaxed, according to some books I've read.
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
      Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
      Sensenich 62x46
      Electroair direct-fire ignition system
      New skis done and flying
      
      
      On Feb 5, 2009, at 11:04 PM, AKFLYERBOB wrote:
      
      > <r.wolfejr@worldnet.att.net>
      >
      > I sure didn't pay 194 thousand for my kitfox,
      > even both of them together
      >
      > --------
      > Bob Wolfe..Soldotna, Alaska
      > KF Mod I and III
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228805#228805
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: trailering your LSA - skip the trailer | 
      
      
      Lynn
      I have always been told it is not legal to strap, Tye, or attach any
      thing to the struts as they are not designed for drag effect.
      We, I should say I,  have generally tied snow shoes, rifles in a 
      scabbard and other stuff, "gas cans", and have not been ruffled
      over it. Not saying up here is lax, but you can see planes tied at the airport
      with snow shoes strapped to the struts.
      I think all realize a one mile walk in 4 ft of snow at -20 can't be done
      without snow shoes. If their destroyed inside the plane, better outside.
      I had to remove anything from the struts to have the
      airplane annulled. 
      This is not a confession and I will deny it as a myth
      
      --------
      Bob Wolfe..Soldotna, Alaska
      KF Mod I and III
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228817#228817
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Snowshoes on struts | 
      
      
      Sorry I posted in the wrong place
      Lynn 
      I have always been told it is not legal to strap, Tye, or attach any 
      thing to the struts as they are not designed for drag effect. 
      We, I should say I, have generally tied snow shoes, rifles in a 
      scabbard and other stuff, "gas cans", and have not been ruffled 
      over it. Not saying up here is lax, but you can see planes tied at the airport
      with snow shoes strapped to the struts. 
      I think all realize a one mile walk in 4 ft of snow at -20 can't be done 
      without snow shoes. If their destroyed inside the plane, better outside. 
      I had to remove anything from the struts to have the 
      airplane annulled. 
      This is not a confession and I will deny it as a myth
      Bob
      
      --------
      Bob Wolfe..Soldotna, Alaska
      KF Mod I and III
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228818#228818
      
      
 
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