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2. 04:10 AM - Re: new bush gear (Catz631@aol.com)
3. 04:55 AM - Re: new bush gear (Larry Huntley)
4. 05:09 AM - Re: new bush landing gear (tc9008@AOL.COM)
5. 06:03 AM - Re: new bush gear (Lynn Matteson)
6. 06:08 AM - Re: Old Tygon (Tom Jones)
7. 06:53 AM - Re: new bush gear (Noel Loveys)
8. 09:06 AM - new bush gear (steve shinabery)
9. 01:54 PM - Re: Aerocet 1100 Anphib installation instructions and dwgs (Michael Laundy)
10. 02:16 PM - Re: new bush gear (Lynn Matteson)
11. 02:48 PM - Re: new bush gear (Catz631@aol.com)
12. 03:24 PM - Re: new bush gear (Francisco dcubj3)
13. 03:30 PM - Re: Aerocet 1100 Anphib installation instructions and dwgs (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
14. 03:51 PM - Re: new bush gear (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
15. 04:47 PM - Re: new bush gear (Lynn Matteson)
16. 05:41 PM - Re: new bush gear (Tom Jones)
17. 05:56 PM - Re: Re: new bush gear (Larry Huntley)
18. 06:47 PM - Re: Re: Greenhouse construction (Guy Buchanan)
19. 06:51 PM - Re: new bush gear (rawheels)
20. 06:52 PM - Re: Aerocet 1100 Anphib installation instructions and dwgs (vetdrem)
21. 07:21 PM - Re: Re: Greenhouse construction (Lynn Matteson)
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| Subject: | Re: new bush gear |
Lynn
I do have the forth float bracket. The bush gear bolted to the two that the
original did and the sweep forward is the same as the original gear (ie: the
wheels are in the same position longitudinally)
Dick Maddux
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| Subject: | Re: new bush gear |
Thanks for all your replies and suggestions!
I tried again yesterday to paint the fairings with PolyTone and I am going
to abort this! Now they look like a moonscape! I am going by the auto parts
store and get some paint remover and I will use enamel to paint the gear
fairings.Who would think that after all the work installing my gear that simply
painting the fairings would be such a pain in the butt! I want you guys to see
what
the fairings on the gear look like. They are really nice! Lowell did a
fantastic and time consuming job of making these!
As to the cost of the gear, I will leave that to Lowell or John. Suffice it
to say it was quite a bit cheaper than the Grove and a whole lot lighter! The
Grove gear is a very fine gear and doesn't get any simpler but I was simply
trying to save some money and keep the weight down as I am a lard a*s ! (getting
much thinner though down 20 lbs , 20 to go to goal) Too many people want me
to take them flying so I have to lighten up.
When I was a bit younger everyone at high school had a Cushman Eagle, I had
a Lambretta. Later my first car was a Triumph TR3 everyone else had an
American hot rod. So there you go.
I received my parts from Spruce so that I can extend the brake lines.
Hopefully I can get the aircraft back together today.
Keep in mind that I have not moved or added any weight to my aircraft in
relation to the new gear. I have simply bolted it on as it resides in the same
place as the old gear. The only difference, other than design, is it weighs 4
lbs less.
I do have a BRS chute canister behind the pax seat which limits my baggage
weight to 10 lbs but that was there when I bought the aircraft.
Dick Maddux
Pensacola,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: new bush gear |
Dick,
Where did you get the gas springs on your doors? My original clips on
the wings work well, but I think I would like to try those.
Thanx.
, Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Catz631@aol.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: new bush gear
Thanks for all your replies and suggestions!
I tried again yesterday to paint the fairings with PolyTone and I am
going to abort this! Now they look like a moonscape! I am going by the
auto parts store and get some paint remover and I will use enamel to
paint the gear fairings.Who would think that after all the work
installing my gear that simply painting the fairings would be such a
pain in the butt! I want you guys to see what the fairings on the gear
look like. They are really nice! Lowell did a fantastic and time
consuming job of making these!
As to the cost of the gear, I will leave that to Lowell or John.
Suffice it to say it was quite a bit cheaper than the Grove and a whole
lot lighter! The Grove gear is a very fine gear and doesn't get any
simpler but I was simply trying to save some money and keep the weight
down as I am a lard a*s ! (getting much thinner though down 20 lbs , 20
to go to goal) Too many people want me to take them flying so I have to
lighten up.
When I was a bit younger everyone at high school had a Cushman Eagle,
I had a Lambretta. Later my first car was a Triumph TR3 everyone else
had an American hot rod. So there you go.
I received my parts from Spruce so that I can extend the brake
lines. Hopefully I can get the aircraft back together today.
Keep in mind that I have not moved or added any weight to my
aircraft in relation to the new gear. I have simply bolted it on as it
resides in the same place as the old gear. The only difference, other
than design, is it weighs 4 lbs less.
I do have a BRS chute canister behind the pax seat which limits my
baggage weight to 10 lbs but that was there when I bought the aircraft.
Dick
Maddux
Pensacola,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: new bush landing gear |
How do I get in touch with Lowell. Sounds like a go idea.
Travis
Kitfox IV
-----Original Message-----
From: Catz631@aol.com
Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 7:43 am
Subject: Kitfox-List: new bush landing gear
I recently purchased a new landing gear for my aircraft and installed it the last
two days.It is the "Bush" gear offered by Highwing LLC.
?My aircraft had the original narrow landing gear and it has worked fine since
I bought the aircraft about a 1 1/2 years ago. I had read about some of the possible
problems with the original gear such as hard landings cracking tubes,side
loads folding the gear,etc.. The bungee changing every year or so was also
going to be a pain in the butt. Now my gear has?been fine with no problems but
when I saw the new bush gear that Lowell and Mark were working on,I had to have
it ! I had previously installed the retro elevator?trim kit that his company
offers (as well as the radiator shutters,throttle bug,etc) so I knew the quality
would be first class.
?I had considered the Grove gear which I know is a fine gear,but I would have to
go thru the expense of changing my axles,brakes and wheels. This would be a
bit sporty in the money department !
?I talked to Lowell and he said he would build me a "bush"?gear which would fit
my original axles,wheels etc and would bolt right on to my fuselage (ie: plug
and play) He also offered to build super deluxe fairings to cover the gear legs.
I agreed and I now have the gear.
?It was indeed a bolt on unit . The quality of the welds and design is fantastic!
And those aluminum fairings,WOW !
?The old gear legs weighed 13.2 lbs. The Grove gear is advertised at 24 lbs and
this gear with fairings and all weighs 9 lbs !!! and the best part is that it
fits my old axles,brakes and wheels so it saved me a lot of money ! I have no
intent of landing on rocks,logs old cars ,etc so I don't want the larger axles
or 26"?wheels.( I am using the Nanking (sp)?smooth tires) I will use the aircraft
to land at my grass strip,and airport bum at local airports. Now I? could
take this gear off airport as it is certainly very stout !
?Here is the bad part. I have a few pictures of the installation but my main computer
is in for repairs and it has the picture program. I will get it back today
and send in some pictures.
?In the mean time I have to install longer brake lines and do some other work prior
to flying so it will be a few days before I have a flight report. It sure
does look nice on the aircraft ! Can't wait to fly it!
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Dick
Maddux
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Fox
4-1200
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Rotax
912UL
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Pensacola,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: new bush gear |
Thanks, Dick....in looking at both your pictures and Francisco's
pictures I got to thinking that there were no longer 4 sets of float
brackets, but then I looked closer at yours and saw the 4th set.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
do not archive
On Feb 22, 2009, at 6:24 AM, Catz631@aol.com wrote:
> Lynn
> I do have the forth float bracket. The bush gear bolted to the two
> that the original did and the sweep forward is the same as the
> original gear (ie: the wheels are in the same position longitudinally)
> Dick Maddux
> Pensacola,Fl
>
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> Tom,
>
> I had the same experience as you with stored Tygon tubing. Mine was sitting in
a box for about 10 years. I thought it was mildew or some algae growth. I tried
to clean it off but no luck. I used short pieces for padding around tubes
or wires but I won't use it for anything else.
>
> John Ciolino
John, actually My tygon seems to be okay. It was Clem that was asking about the
problem. Being that you have also seen some sort of deterioration in the tygon
I think I will change my vent line to the blue Bing fuel line.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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Great to hear Francisco.. Keep reading the mail here you may be able to
help someone some day.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
Drovetta
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: new bush gear
<dcubj3@terra.com.br>
Noel:
With this gear landing is perfect, like J3 (better)
Before change, landing was dangerous, now is great!!
Less weight, axle more closer than before (4 inches), 5% weight on tail
Landing become perfect!!!!
FD
www.dcubj3.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:32 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: new bush gear
>
> Have you flown it with the new wheels yet? What are your thoughts on
> it's
> handling while landing? Better Elevator control?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Drovetta
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:38 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: new bush gear
>
> <dcubj3@terra.com.br>
>
> Mr. Noel:
> With pilot e co-pilot I can use 80% fuel tank. equiv 80 litres only (not
> total)
> In this case, with 40 lbs of bagagge, total weight is almost 1.300 lbs
> FD
> www.dcubj3.com.br
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:49 PM
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: new bush gear
>
>
>>
>> I checked the last W&B Francisco sent and the new gear is actually 2 Lb
>> per
>> main leg lighter. The weight on the tail wheel has increased from 15 lb.
>> to
>> 44 lb. tare. I have asked him to send his weight and the arm of his seat
>> and the arm of his wing tanks so we can figure out an operation envelope
>> for
>> him. I expect if he is anything over 150 lb. the lightest load will be
>> with
>> a CG of around 12 - 12.5 in. Gross should be around 14-15 in. that's a
>> lot
>> better than it was. I'll bet he'll find it a lot better plane landing.
>> Can
>> you imagine trying to recover from a stall in a plane with such a light
>> tail?
>>
>> Noel
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn
>> Matteson
>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:35 AM
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: new bush gear
>>
>>
>> Dick, I have no doubt that yours is in the right place...re-read my
>> post. It was in response to Noel, who was responding to Francisco,
>> whose plane was the subject of much discussion a few weeks back, when
>> he sent pictures of his plane which looked like he had the gear in
>> the wrong place.
>> In looking at your pictures just now, it looks like they no longer
>> put the front float brackets on the fuselage...yours has 3 on each
>> side, as does Francisco's, while mine has 4.
>>
>> I too have one of those visible reservoirs...I bought it at Oshkosh 2
>> 1/2 years ago....some things just take a little longer to get
>> installed....mine isn't yet! : )
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
>> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
>> Sensenich 62x46
>> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
>> New skis done and flying
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2009, at 6:16 AM, Catz631@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Lynn,
>>> I assure you my gear is not mounted in the wrong place. The gear
>>> leg is pretty much identical in build and shape to the original
>>> Kitfox leg I took off. The wheel is in the same position it's just
>>> a foot further out toward the wing tip so I have to stretch to put
>>> my foot on it to get in the aircraft. I am a short guy. The gear
>>> weight is just 4 lbs lighter and the spread 2 ft wider. I now have
>>> a 6 ft spread vs the original 4 ft (actually 7 ft if you measure to
>>> the outside of the "kingfox" tires)
>>> I am not too worried about weight and balance as the 4 lbs
>>> difference will equal the 4 lbs of stuff I put in the panel!
>>> I am waiting for the polyflow fittings to arrive from Spruce so I
>>> can extend the brake lines.
>>> Yesterday I installed the "visible reservoir" thick plastic brake
>>> fluid reservoir that I obtained a while back. Now I will be able to
>>> see how much fluid is in the reservoir. This will be useful when
>>> back bleeding for fill purposes. No more running over the top!
>>> I am having a time painting the gear leg fairings! Call me the
>>> "orange peel" king. I am using Poly Tone and have tried both
>>> methods (primer dry and spraying a mist coat onto drying primer)
>>> nothing seems to work. I might have to break down and order a quart
>>> of enamel from Spruce (so expensive for a small amount) I will give
>>> it another shot today.
>>> Dick
>>> Maddux
>>> Fox
>>> 4-1200
>>> Rotax
>>> 912UL
>>>
>>> Pensacola,Fl
>>>
>>> Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. _-
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Would Lowell's new gear fit a Kitfox 2 all so???I may too be interested
in a set...Steve Shinabery KF2 N554KF
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| Subject: | Re: Aerocet 1100 Anphib installation instructions and dwgs |
Gary,
I have kept this old posting of yours on my computer,. I am about to start
installing a set of second hand aerocet- amphibs on my Kitfox 3, but I ha
ve no instructions.
Do you still have the instructions PDFd on your web site, I was unable to a
ccess it.
many thanks
Mike Laundy
--- On Wed, 24/10/07, kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com> wrote:
From: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aerocet 1100 Anphib installation instructions and dwg
s
Finally tracked down all my Aerocet
documentation. They were tucked in an Aircraft Spruce catalog. -I
have pdf'ed everything and posted them to my web site. -See the address
below. Go to the Aerocet Float folder. -There are three PDF files.
-Two are the installation instructions, one being for the straight
floats and the other for the anphibs. You need both as the anphib guide
takes over where the straight float guide leaves off. -The third pdf
is the exploded assembly drawings and parts listing. - Also included
is the procedure for checking the main gear over centre position, and the
rigging instructions for the cables that operate the gear. -If you
have a set of these floats, download, print and protect these. -They
really come in handy.
Gary Walsh
KF IV -Anphib 912S
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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| Subject: | Re: new bush gear |
Francisco-
I've lost track of what this plane is...Model IV, 5, 6, 7? The reason
I ask is because in viewing your W&B sheet...Noel forwarded it to
me....it shows the GC range for the planes that are either 1050 or
1200 lbs. Max. Gross Weight, and I would imagine that your plane is a
higher gross weight than either of these. If so, maybe the CG
envelope/range is different than the 10.2" to 16.0" that the form shows.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
On Feb 21, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Francisco Drovetta wrote:
> Lynn, this is correct!!!
>
> Original tailwheel weight: 15 lbs
>
> With new "bush landing gear"
> ( Main wheel axle is 4" closer than datum )
>
> New tailwheel weight: 33 lbs
> MORE 11 lbs = 44 lbs
>
> 44 lbs is 5% of total weight (883 lbs), as your instruction "
> very useful information"
>
> Tks very much!!!
>
> FD
> www.dcubj3.com.br
>
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| Subject: | Re: new bush gear |
I have a few more pictures of my installation. One of the pictures shows the
fairings which I have put on with a couple of Clecos. I will order enamel
tomorrow so I can complete this part of the project.
I was going to fly today but a front came through and it was too windy,
maybe tomorrow.
Dick Maddux
Fox 4-1200
Pensacola,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: new bush gear |
Lynn
My aircraft is not Original Kitfox
Is called "Aguia" (eagle) model V. It is Brazilian Kit. More than 200 uni
ts sold.
It=B4s similar KIV with few model V modifications. (speed wing, and Model
V estabilizator). Other parts is similar that Model IV.
Total weight is almost 1.400 lbs.
I used KIV W&B xls
Do you think that I have to use Kitfox Model V W&B xls?
Tks
De:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
Para:kitfox-list@matronics.com
C=F3pia:
Data:Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:13:58 -0500
Assunto:Re: Kitfox-List: new bush gear
>
> Francisco-
> I've lost track of what this plane is...Model IV, 5, 6, 7? The reason
> I ask is because in viewing your W&B sheet...Noel forwarded it to
> me....it shows the GC range for the planes that are either 1050 or
> 1200 lbs. Max. Gross Weight, and I would imagine that your plane is a
> higher gross weight than either of these. If so, maybe the CG
> envelope/range is different than the 10.2" to 16.0" that the form shows
.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Status: flying
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Francisco Drovetta wrote:
>
> > Lynn, this is correct!!!
> >
> > Original tailwheel weight: 15 lbs
> >
> > With new "bush landing gear"
> > ( Main wheel axle is 4" closer than datum )
> >
> > New tailwheel weight: 33 lbs
> > MORE 11 lbs = 44 lbs
> >
> > 44 lbs is 5% of total weight (883 lbs), as your instruction "
> > very useful information"
> >
> > Tks very much!!!
> >
> > FD
> > www.dcubj3.com.br
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aerocet 1100 Anphib installation instructions and dwgs |
[quote="mikelaundy(at)yahoo.co.uk"]Gary,
> Do you still have the instructions on your web site, I was unable to access it.
You have to be able to deal with ActiveX on his site. It is easier for me to just
post those three files here than coach you through enabling ActiveX controls.
So the three files are here (pay attention to the links below).
--------
Paul A. Franz, P.E.
Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
425.241.1618 Cell
425.440.9505 Office
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/straight_float_install_268.pdf
http://forums.matronics.com//files/aerocet1100_assembly_dwg_761.pdf
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| Subject: | Re: new bush gear |
[quote="Dick Maddux"]
> .....I will order enamel tomorrow so I can complete this part of the project.
I think you're going to be disappointed. The orange peel problem you're having
with Polytone is caused from the relative humidity of the surrounding air being
too high. From my experience, enamel will have the same problem, possibly worse.
Also, unless it is some kind of polyurethane enamel you're likely to get
cracking on it over fabric.
You've got to paint it inside a shop and use some kind of dehumidificaton. If it
is warmer in the shop than it is outside, the relative humidity will be lower,
presuming the shop has not added additional water to the air from wet floors.
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Paul A. Franz, P.E.
Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
425.241.1618 Cell
425.440.9505 Office
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| Subject: | Re: new bush gear |
I would follow whatever the kitmakers suggest as far as what W&B
information to follow. Only they will know. They should at least
advise to as to what the max gross weight should be, and where the
forward most, and where the rearward most extremes of the center of
gravity should be located, and from what point (datum point) should
these measurements be made.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
On Feb 22, 2009, at 6:23 PM, Francisco dcubj3 wrote:
> Lynn
> My aircraft is not Original Kitfox
> Is called "Aguia" (eagle) model V. It is Brazilian Kit. More than
> 200 units sold.
> Its similar KIV with few model V modifications. (speed wing, and
> Model V estabilizator). Other parts is similar that Model IV.
>
> Total weight is almost 1.400 lbs.
> I used KIV W&B xls
>
> Do you think that I have to use Kitfox Model V W&B xls?
>
> Tks
>
>
> De:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> Para:kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Cpia:
> Data:Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:13:58 -0500
> Assunto:Re: Kitfox-List: new bush gear
> >
> > Francisco-
> > I've lost track of what this plane is...Model IV, 5, 6, 7? The
> reason
> > I ask is because in viewing your W&B sheet...Noel forwarded it to
> > me....it shows the GC range for the planes that are either 1050 or
> > 1200 lbs. Max. Gross Weight, and I would imagine that your plane
> is a
> > higher gross weight than either of these. If so, maybe the CG
> > envelope/range is different than the 10.2" to 16.0" that the form
> shows.
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
> > Sensenich 62x46
> > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> > Status: flying
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 21, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Francisco Drovetta wrote:
> >
> > > Lynn, this is correct!!!
> > >
> > > Original tailwheel weight: 15 lbs
> > >
> > > With new "bush landing gear"
> > > ( Main wheel axle is 4" closer than datum )
> > >
> > > New tailwheel weight: 33 lbs
> > > MORE 11 lbs = 44 lbs
> > >
> > > 44 lbs is 5% of total weight (883 lbs), as your instruction "
> > > very useful information"
> > >
> > > Tks very much!!!
> > >
> > > FD
> > > www.dcubj3.com.br
> > >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: new bush gear |
Dick, and Fransisco,
The thing that strikes me the most when looking at your pictures is that the Bush
Gear makes your airplanes look bigger. I hate it when non airplane people
look at my Kitfox and say, "it sure is Little".
You both know that now I have two items to save up for...a big 4 stroke engine
AND a Bush gear.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: new bush gear |
I have heard the same thing about my Fox. Just like cars. Bigger ain't
neccessarily better,just lots more expensive. Larry Huntley,4-1200 Soob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:40 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: new bush gear
>
> Dick, and Fransisco,
> The thing that strikes me the most when looking at your pictures is that
> the Bush Gear makes your airplanes look bigger. I hate it when non
> airplane people look at my Kitfox and say, "it sure is Little".
>
> You both know that now I have two items to save up for...a big 4 stroke
> engine AND a Bush gear.
>
> --------
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231580#231580
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Greenhouse construction |
At 10:39 PM 2/19/2009, you wrote:
>Guy, There is fabric both sides of the butt rib. However the
>original builder put portholes in the fabric similar to inspection
>holes. You can see in.But, Not enough access to work in there. I
>will have to do a little surgical work on the fabric.
Pat,
That sounds like a clean installation; but what a problem
for you. Can't say as I see a way around it. Actually there is ONE
trick I learned from my years as a yacht designer. I have, at times,
spaced floating nut plates along long pieces of non-structural
material and slid them into holes as backing plates for deck
structure. You might be able to do the same if you could find the
right access. That way you might be able to cut small holes and still
get nut plates in.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: new bush gear |
Heck, I like it even without the fairings (the kitfox brand style), and maybe I
could save some more money without the sheet-metal and tabs. Hopefully Highwing
can beat the grove gear upgrade by more than just $140 like Kitfox does though.
Guess we'll see. I've tried to reach both Mark and Lloyd at Highwing LLC. So,
maybe I'll hear something soon.
Ryan
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Ryan Wheeler
Kitfox IV-1200
Indianapolis, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Aerocet 1100 Anphib installation instructions and dwgs |
I have a set of aerocet 1100 amphibs for sale if anyone is interested, give me
a call (989)387-4662
Louie
Model 3 912ul
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| Subject: | Re: Greenhouse construction |
I thought this thread died out, so was not going to post what I found
out today, and that is some interesting info on 3/32" pop rivets.
This quote came from www.bonaero.com/ and I quote:
************************
" 3/32" Pop rivets do not posses enough shear strength to
resist the locking torque of the large nut plates. As anybody who has
spun a hidden nut plate will attest, you do not want that to happen
again. Cherry's 3/32" nut plate rivets are steel with retained steel
stems which resist over 100 lbs of single shear load per rivet. "
************************
To read that, one has to wonder about the wisdom of using aluminum
pop rivets for the installation of anchor nuts, of course this
warning of aimed at "large nut plates". At the website, there is a
legend for breaking the secret code of the "rivet world".. : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
do not archive
On Feb 22, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
>
> At 10:39 PM 2/19/2009, you wrote:
>> Guy, There is fabric both sides of the butt rib. However the
>> original builder put portholes in the fabric similar to inspection
>> holes. You can see in.But, Not enough access to work in there. I
>> will have to do a little surgical work on the fabric.
>
> Pat,
> That sounds like a clean installation; but what a problem
> for you. Can't say as I see a way around it. Actually there is ONE
> trick I learned from my years as a yacht designer. I have, at
> times, spaced floating nut plates along long pieces of non-
> structural material and slid them into holes as backing plates for
> deck structure. You might be able to do the same if you could find
> the right access. That way you might be able to cut small holes and
> still get nut plates in.
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
>
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