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1. 05:57 AM - Re: Rumored TSA Directive (Ken Potter)
2. 10:11 AM - Re: Re: Gummed up Fuel Filter - Any Ideas??? (Kitfox George)
3. 11:18 AM - Re: Re: Gummed up Fuel Filter - Any Ideas??? (Vic Baker)
4. 07:42 PM - Re: Re: Gummed up Fuel Filter - Any Ideas??? (Lowell Fitt)
5. 08:45 PM - Re: Gummed up Fuel Filter - Any Ideas??? (darinh)
6. 09:01 PM - Carbmate Electronic Synchronizer (darinh)
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| Subject: | Re: Rumored TSA Directive |
Security clearances for everyone?? It's going to be very interesting to see how
this affects Oshkosh and other such events. [Shocked] [Shocked] [Shocked]
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Ken Potter
Model II, No. 483
Rotax 582, C-Box,
98% Complete
C-FJKP (marks reserved)
Lanark, Ontario
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| Subject: | Re: Gummed up Fuel Filter - Any Ideas??? |
Darin,=0A=0AI believe you live-in Utah=0A=0AOkay, you can tell I have to
much time on my hands waiting for the paint to dry. I called the Provo, UT
- Autzone store and if you buy the fuel line hose from their bulk roll it
's $3.99 a foot. Their-prepackaged stuff is expensive. -=0A=0AI'm done
now and-will say no more. =0AGeorge =0A=0A=0ASport Model - 914 / painting
=0Ado not archive =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: d
arinh <gerns25@netscape.net>=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursd
ay, February 26, 2009 3:48:56 PM=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gummed up Fuel
rns25@netscape.net>=0A=0AI bought some Gates fuel injection hose that is SA
E30R9 spec also from a local hose supplier.- It says on the hose that it
is multi-fuel compatible.- Here is a link to the Goodyear stuff.=0A=0Ahtt
p://www.goodyearep.com/ProductsDetail.aspx?id=14912=0A=0AA check of Autoz
one's website though shows it at $12.99 for a 5/16" x 18" piece which is cl
oser to $9.00 per foot.- I paid $6 something a foot for the Gates SAE30R9
hose.- $3.99 per foot is more in line with the fuel emission hose that y
our local shops sell.- But if you can get the SAE30r9 for that price your
getting a great deal.=0A=0A--------=0ADarin Hawkes=0ASeries 7 =0A914 Turbo
=0AKaysville, Utah=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://f
orums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232273#232273=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Gummed up Fuel Filter - Any Ideas??? |
Just found some at our local Kragen store at $4.95 per ft. (Goodyear)
Vic Baker
S7 912S Warp
Phase 1 flight testing
Carson City, Nv
----- Original Message -----
From: Kitfox George
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Gummed up Fuel Filter - Any Ideas???
Darin,
I believe you live in Utah
Okay, you can tell I have to much time on my hands waiting for the
paint to dry. I called the Provo, UT Autzone store and if you buy the
fuel line hose from their bulk roll it's $3.99 a foot. Their prepackaged
stuff is expensive.
I'm done now and will say no more.
George
Sport Model - 914 / painting
do not archive
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From: darinh <gerns25@netscape.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:48:56 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gummed up Fuel Filter - Any Ideas???
I bought some Gates fuel injection hose that is SAE30R9 spec also from
a local hose supplier. It says on the hose that it is multi-fuel
compatible. Here is a link to the Goodyear stuff.
http://www.goodyearep.com/ProductsDetail.aspx?id=14912
A check of Autozone's
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| Subject: | Re: Gummed up Fuel Filter - Any Ideas??? |
For what it is worth. Here in California, we have fuel specifications that
are very stringent - so much so that if we have a refinery problem, no other
state can help with the supply. However, this does not mean that all the
blends aavailable here are the same, only that they all meet the measurable
standards. I suspect that the same will hold for any mil spec certified
part. It must meet certain specifications, but I am personally convinced
that all Mil 6000 hose does not have the exact same formulation.
That one set of hose works and onother does not - at least in my mind -
means that at least two different formulations meet the specification, but
one handles mogas well and the other does not. I think there is too much
evidence that mil 6000 is not predictably satisfactory for mogas with or
without ethanol. Also keep in mind that the majority of the talk on the
list regarding Mil 6000 was long before ethanol was introduced to the
formula of mogas and as was mentioned, many posts on this subject are
available in the archives.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Huntley" <asq@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Gummed up Fuel Filter - Any Ideas???
Clint,
When a local Kitfox went down in a meadow here ,the line was cut off and
it had actually swollen shut. I don't know what caused it ,but it was
running mogas. I have run mogas in my Tripacer for years w/ MilSpec 6000
line and have never had any problems. I wish I knew what did it. As I
remember,Don Smythe did some research,but I don't know that he reached any
conclusion.
Facts are :
A few pieces of 6000 have swollen shut and brought down aircraft.
A lot of aircraft have flown for many hrs on 6000 with no problem.
As far as I know,no one knows what has caused the problem.(I somehow doubt
it is alcohol),but I sure wouldn't bet on it.
We know different gasolines have a variety of different additives.
I have used KwikFil for years with no problem, so will probably
continue,but i wouldn't bet on that being sound practice either.
What line does anyone KNOW is good for both 100LL and mogas? I am in the
process of rebuilding two different aircraft and would like to know.
Larry Huntley Kitfox4-1200 Soob,
Tripacer Lyc 160,Funk B75L Lyc GO-145, Dundee,NY
----- Original Message -----
From: Clint Bazzill
To: Kitfox list
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Gummed up Fuel Filter - Any Ideas???
I use mostly Hi Octane Chevron except when I fly cross country. Put over
5,000 gal of fuel through Mil 6000. After removing portions the line, it
would be difficult to tell from new. I would like a piece of that bad fuel
line that I keep hearing about to test.
Clint
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gummed up Fuel Filter - Any Ideas???
> From: gerns25@netscape.net
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:44:58 -0800
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Guy,
>
> This is my thinking as well I know I have not run ethanol but the
detergents and additives may be the issue. Clint has used the Mil6000 for
1400 hours without issue but I think he runs 100LL...I could be wrong
though.
>
> I bought some Gates Multi-fuel fuel injection hose today that I am going
to use for the 5/16" lines...the other stuff is Aeroquip.
>
> Thanks for the replies.
>
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> Darin Hawkes
> Series 7
> 914 Turbo
> Kaysville, Utah
>
>
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232113#232113
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| Subject: | Re: Gummed up Fuel Filter - Any Ideas??? |
As an update...I got all the hoses replace and the filter changed out to a new
clear filter and sure enough, the engine hit 5730 rpm on a static run so all is
well now. I bought myself a new gadget called a Carbmate electonic carb synchronizer
that is awesome...I will post a new thread and discuss my thoughts on
for anyone interested.
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Darin Hawkes
Series 7
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah
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| Subject: | Carbmate Electronic Synchronizer |
As some of you may have seen, I sold my CPS synchronizer kit a couple weeks ago
because I wanted to upgrade to a electronic synchronizer. Well, I got to use
it today and while the results are basically the same from both setups, the electronic
tool was much easier to read and use. It works by comparing the vacuum
readings in both intakes and displays an LED which tells you how to adjust
the linkages. The electronics dampen out the piston pulses that you get on the
gages so in my opinion, you get a better reading and thus better balancing.
As important as balancing is, I think this tool is well worth the money spent
which by the way is not much more than the CPS gage synchronizing kit. I got
mine at Aircraft Spruce and they also have another one from the same company
called the Synchromate II that has a few more bells and whistles but is more
than twice the cost. Anyway, that is my tool recommendation for the year.
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Darin Hawkes
Series 7
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah
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