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1. 01:48 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Display (JC Propeller Design)
2. 03:26 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Display (Lynn Matteson)
3. 08:41 AM - Jeff Puls 1951-2009 (KITFOXZ@aol.com)
4. 09:33 AM - Optimizing speed for range, endurance and practicalities... (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
5. 09:41 AM - Re: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 (Lynn Matteson)
6. 09:51 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Display (Lynn Matteson)
7. 10:25 AM - Re: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 (Weiss Richard)
8. 10:46 AM - Re: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 (Michel Verheughe)
9. 10:58 AM - Re: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
10. 12:17 PM - Flaperon Damage. (815TL)
11. 12:53 PM - Tire Question (Pete Christensen)
12. 01:01 PM - Re: Tire Question (Tom Jones)
13. 01:14 PM - Re: Flaperon Damage. (Tom Jones)
14. 01:21 PM - Re: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 (Tom Jones)
15. 05:39 PM - Re: Flaperon Damage. (815TL)
16. 06:08 PM - Re: Tire Question (Brian Morissette)
17. 08:48 PM - Jeff Puls (steve shinabery)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Display |
In general, all airplane, speed for minimum fuel flow isn't the same as the
speed for best range, and non of those speeds is speed stable, you need as
you say be 5 mph or so higher.
There is a speed called Carson (not Carlson) speed, that is best
distance/fuel/time speed, about 1,3 times higher then the best range speed.
on a drag curve this is the speed where a line drawn from origo touch the
curve.
Jan Carlsson
www.jcpropellerdesign.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:39 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Display
> <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
>
> According to the Model II POH, with the 65hp 582, fuel consumption at
> 65mph
> is 2.1gph and at 85mph it is 3.7gph; nearly twice as much for an extra
> 20mph! I have found that I need to maintain around 70mph IAS, at 65 it
> tends
> to "fall off the plane" and lose airspeed quickly. I'm not sure if it's
> just
> my plane or a characteristic of the II but it can be a problem. Seeing the
> rating go from 2.1gph to 3.7 within my usable cruise range it makes me
> want
> to see a curve there so I can get the efficiency.
>
> So I should go out now and install that bloody expensive equipment and get
> flying again! We have a disadvantage here in South Central Pa where the
> grass strips are either frozen with nasty bumps or melted with mud patches
> that'll suck your boots off. And no snow for skis, maybe I should move...
>
> Bob Brennan - N717GB
> ELSA Repairman, inspection rated
> 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox taildragger
> Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
> Wrightsville Pa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
> Sent: 14 March 2009 3:11 pm
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Display
>
>
> Saturday morning pedantrics are fine, but I was flying this am. : )
>
> I never thought of flying down-hill to get a better reading....if I
> had, I'm sure the "hurry up and dump some fuel overboard...you're
> making fuel" light would have come on. : )
>
> I don't think my airspeed is exactly accurate, but I was showing
> about 90 on it and on the GPS groundspeed...and at about 2000 ft AGL,
> how do I know what the exact wind was? I didn't, but the ground wind
> was 10 mph, 30 miles further back when I departed. At the point where
> I saw 90 by 90, I was showing about 3.1 to 3.2 gph usage. I twisted
> (vernier throttle) the throttle back and saw 2.9 gph usage, and speed
> dropped to about 85 by 85. I was trying to slow enough to just stay
> ahead of my friend's 150 Cessna, and by slowing this small amount,
> the speed dropped, but the gph use really dropped. The tach was
> showing about 2700 at 90 mph, and about 2540 when throttled back..(.I
> think I have too much prop, as the Jab's cruise speed should be
> 2750-2950 rpm). I was straight and level at the time. I've read some
> accounts of people getting 2-point something with their Kitfox's, and
> seriously doubted them, but it just shows what throttling back can
> do. I'm happy if I get about 3.8-4.1gph, but if I'm in a hurry to
> get somewhere, I'll open it up more but seeing 4.8-5.0 makes me
> realize how much of a rush I SHOULDN'T be in. Incidentally, on
> takeoff, I'll see 5.8-6.0 gph use, and that's enough to point the
> nose down a bit and twist the throttle back some. : )
>
> The main reason I got the fuel flow gauge was to determine where the
> Bing's needle needs to be for best economy, just like you mentioned,
> Bob. I've been using the EGT's for this purpose, but I think the flow
> meter will be more instantaneous.
>
> By the way, when we got to where we were going, the fuel price was
> $3.26/ gallon for 100 LL, and they had just lowered it from $3.79/
> gallon.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Status: flying
>
>
> On Mar 14, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Bob Brennan wrote:
>
>> <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
>>
>> On my Jeep Cherokee's "instantaneous fuel mileage" display I can
>> lift my
>> foot off the pedal and maintain speed and the display goes up to
>> 200 miles
>> per gallon! Of course that's going downhill... and going up the
>> same hill it
>> shows 8 mpg...
>>
>> Sorry Lynn, couldn't resist<g>, sometimes being curious brings out the
>> smart-ass in me.
>>
>> But seriously, I have yet to install my rather expensive fuel flow
>> meter in
>> my 582 KF2 so am watching this thread with interest. So - 10 mph
>> into a 90
>> mph wind - IAS or GPS? IAS you are going a true 90, GPS probably
>> 80. To me
>> IAS is the only thing that is important for fuel flow, a 10 mph
>> headwind
>> only affects how much fuel and time it will take to get where
>> you're goin'.
>>
>> But more importantly "twist[ing] the throttle back" did what?
>> Lowered the
>> airspeed? You found a convenient "hill" to maintain airspeed? What
>> was the
>> gph before?
>>
>> On my KF2 I hope to find a cruise "sweet spot" with the fuel flow
>> meter. At
>> or below 65 it tends to mush and needs more throttle, once I get it on
>> "plane" it speeds up, speeding up further I suspect will suck more
>> fuel. At
>> some IAS, unique to each plane no doubt, there's a best economy
>> cruise.
>>
>> Welcome to Saturday morning pedantry, but I know you enjoy the
>> challenge!(?)
>>
>> Bob Brennan - N717GB
>> ELSA Repairman, inspection rated
>> 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox taildragger
>> Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
>> Wrightsville Pa
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn
>> Matteson
>> Sent: 13 March 2009 10:40 pm
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Display
>>
>>
>> Kinda like starting the ol' engine up without a prop, eh Snake, just
>> to see what she sounds like? A little impatience at the wrong time
>> might not be a good thing.
>>
>> Speaking of fuel flow, I was flying today, and even into a 10 mph
>> wind at about 90 mph, I was able to twist the throttle back to see
>> 2.9 gph on my Northstar Fuel Flow meter. It's surprising how just a
>> little less throttle will gain so much in fuel economy.
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
>> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs
>> Sensenich 62x46
>> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
>> Status: flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2009, at 9:55 PM, akflyer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> did you guys try to power up the unit without it being hooked to
>>> the ducer first? or was it hooked to ducer, and would not power up
>>> on the initial try? Alot of instruments don't like to have power
>>> to them without the ducer being installed. If that was the case,
>>> and you were impatient and wanted to see what it would do before
>>> the ducer was hooked up, you may have toasted a good instrument.
>>>
>>> Don't know for sure if you did or not, just tossing it out there.
>>>
>>> snake
>>>
>>> --------
>>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>> Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
>>> Soldotna AK
>>> Avid "C" / Mk IV
>>> 582 IVO IFA
>>> Full Lotus 1260
>>> #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
>>>
>>> hander outer of humorless darwin awards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234520#234520
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Display |
Up here, it's just that time of year when the bumps are frozen in the
morning, but soft in the afternoon. My field slopes about 20 ft
downhill (according to my altimeter, but at least 10 ft by
"eyeballing" it), and at the low end the field is really soggy...the
pond is swollen to cover half the width of the runway there. So I
only use half the field (half of 1700 ft) for takeoffs and still get
up in half of that...easily. Landing is no problem, as I just glide
over the soft part and time it to land after the halfway mark,
sometimes needing a go-around, but more likely to need a firm
application of brakes as the pucker factor rises when the far end
presents itself rather largely. :)
So you're saying you've got the "bloody expensive equipment", but
haven't put it in yet? Better get crackin', Bob, life is short, and
Sun 'n' Fun is comin' up. Even the Festival of Flight is well within
your range, I would think.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
do not archive
On Mar 14, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Bob Brennan wrote:
> <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
>
> According to the Model II POH, with the 65hp 582, fuel consumption
> at 65mph
> is 2.1gph and at 85mph it is 3.7gph; nearly twice as much for an extra
> 20mph! I have found that I need to maintain around 70mph IAS, at 65
> it tends
> to "fall off the plane" and lose airspeed quickly. I'm not sure if
> it's just
> my plane or a characteristic of the II but it can be a problem.
> Seeing the
> rating go from 2.1gph to 3.7 within my usable cruise range it makes
> me want
> to see a curve there so I can get the efficiency.
>
> So I should go out now and install that bloody expensive equipment
> and get
> flying again! We have a disadvantage here in South Central Pa where
> the
> grass strips are either frozen with nasty bumps or melted with mud
> patches
> that'll suck your boots off. And no snow for skis, maybe I should
> move...
>
> Bob Brennan - N717GB
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| Subject: | Jeff Puls 1951-2009 |
Hello Kitfoxers,
Jeff Puls, a long time Kitfox enthusiast and Kitfox List member, died
yesterday apparently of natural causes. He was 57. Jeff was extremely
instrumental in getting me started with my Series V kit in the summer of 1995.
We
worked together that summer to finish his beautiful Classic lV and to fly it.
Jeff contributed to The List discussions over the years and dearly loved all
aspects of flying.
A Columbus Ohio Police Department Lieutenant. when I met him in '95, he was
the commander of the Columbus, Ohio Police Helicopter Division. He quickly
saw the need to move up from recip. helicopters to turbines and fought to get
the first ex-Army OH-58's into the Columbus Police inventory. Today there
are at least 6 new Rockwell turbine ships flying for our city's safety.
A stickler for honesty, detail and safety, when the big day arrived, he
refused to take me up in his Classic lV for a spin around the patch until he
burned off a few gallons of fuel so that we would be right at, but not an ounce
over gross!
Jeff is survived by his wife Donna, also a Columbus Police officer.
_The Columbus Dispatch : Police lieutenant found dead at substation_
(http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/03/14/officerdies.html?s
id=101)
John P. Marzluf
Columbus, Ohio
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| Subject: | Optimizing speed for range, endurance and practicalities... |
On Sun, March 15, 2009 12:47 am, JC Propeller Design wrote:
> "JC Propeller Design - Jan Carlsson" <propellerdesign@tele2.se>
>
> In general, all airplane, speed for minimum fuel flow isn't the same as the
> speed for best range, and non of those speeds is speed stable, you need as
> you say be 5 mph or so higher.
> There is a speed called Carson (not Carlson) speed, that is best
> distance/fuel/time speed, about 1,3 times higher then the best range speed.
As near as I can tell, "Carson Speed" is something invented by one of the authors
of
an excellent article in the September 1993 Sport Aviation.
A month later this article came out.
<http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/perfspds/perfspds.htm>
"Fortunately, the author cited the AIAA paper where Carson developed this concept
(AIAA-80-1847)"
It will tell you how to determine Optimum Cruising Speed (Carson's Speed).
> on a drag curve this is the speed where a line drawn from origo touch the
> curve.
Shown here in Fig 1
<http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/perfspds/perfspds.htm#Figure_1>
Here's a good read - two page article from Flying Magazine that makes reference
to
Carson and the Carson Score.
<http://www.flyingmag.com/technicalities/755/the-very-best-speed-to-fly.html>
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| Subject: | Re: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 |
That is sad news, John....I recall Jeff posting here, but a search of
my saved mail didn't show up anything with his name on it.
How is your project coming along?
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
do not archive
On Mar 15, 2009, at 11:41 AM, KITFOXZ@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hello Kitfoxers,
>
> Jeff Puls, a long time Kitfox enthusiast and Kitfox List member,
> died yesterday apparently of natural causes. He was 57. Jeff was
> extremely instrumental in getting me started with my Series V kit
> in the summer of 1995. We worked together that summer to finish
> his beautiful Classic lV and to fly it. Jeff contributed to The
> List discussions over the years and dearly loved all aspects of
> flying.
>
> A Columbus Ohio Police Department Lieutenant. when I met him in
> '95, he was the commander of the Columbus, Ohio Police Helicopter
> Division. He quickly saw the need to move up from recip.
> helicopters to turbines and fought to get the first ex-Army OH-58's
> into the Columbus Police inventory. Today there are at least 6 new
> Rockwell turbine ships flying for our city's safety.
>
> A stickler for honesty, detail and safety, when the big day
> arrived, he refused to take me up in his Classic lV for a spin
> around the patch until he burned off a few gallons of fuel so that
> we would be right at, but not an ounce over gross!
>
> Jeff is survived by his wife Donna, also a Columbus Police officer.
>
> The Columbus Dispatch : Police lieutenant found dead at substation
>
>
> John P. Marzluf
> Columbus, Ohio
> Outback (outback in the garage)
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Display |
I took another flight today in dead calm wind conditions, and showed
2730 rpm, 3.6 gph fuel usage, 3000' altitude, 98 IAS with 103 GPS
groundspeed. I lowered the rpm to 2680 rpm, 3.4 gph usage @ 2720',
and 96 x 100 (air x ground). On the return flight, after 1 hour
breakfast (slow service), the numbers were: 2740 rpm, 3.7 usage, and
2500', with speeds at 100 x 107. After the trip, my GPS showed
60.2 miles going, and 60.5 miles returning, both taking .6 hours, for
almost exactly a 100 mph average.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
do not archive
On Mar 14, 2009, at 3:11 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
>
> Saturday morning pedantrics are fine, but I was flying this am. : )
>
> I never thought of flying down-hill to get a better reading....if I
> had, I'm sure the "hurry up and dump some fuel overboard...you're
> making fuel" light would have come on. : )
>
> I don't think my airspeed is exactly accurate, but I was showing
> about 90 on it and on the GPS groundspeed...and at about 2000 ft
> AGL, how do I know what the exact wind was? I didn't, but the
> ground wind was 10 mph, 30 miles further back when I departed. At
> the point where I saw 90 by 90, I was showing about 3.1 to 3.2 gph
> usage. I twisted (vernier throttle) the throttle back and saw 2.9
> gph usage, and speed dropped to about 85 by 85. I was trying to
> slow enough to just stay ahead of my friend's 150 Cessna, and by
> slowing this small amount, the speed dropped, but the gph use
> really dropped. The tach was showing about 2700 at 90 mph, and
> about 2540 when throttled back..(.I think I have too much prop, as
> the Jab's cruise speed should be 2750-2950 rpm). I was straight and
> level at the time. I've read some accounts of people getting 2-
> point something with their Kitfox's, and seriously doubted them,
> but it just shows what throttling back can do. I'm happy if I get
> about 3.8-4.1gph, but if I'm in a hurry to get somewhere, I'll
> open it up more but seeing 4.8-5.0 makes me realize how much of a
> rush I SHOULDN'T be in. Incidentally, on takeoff, I'll see 5.8-6.0
> gph use, and that's enough to point the nose down a bit and twist
> the throttle back some. : )
>
> The main reason I got the fuel flow gauge was to determine where
> the Bing's needle needs to be for best economy, just like you
> mentioned, Bob. I've been using the EGT's for this purpose, but I
> think the flow meter will be more instantaneous.
>
> By the way, when we got to where we were going, the fuel price was
> $3.26/ gallon for 100 LL, and they had just lowered it from $3.79/
> gallon.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Status: flying
>
>
> On Mar 14, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Bob Brennan wrote:
>
>> <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
>>
>> On my Jeep Cherokee's "instantaneous fuel mileage" display I can
>> lift my
>> foot off the pedal and maintain speed and the display goes up to
>> 200 miles
>> per gallon! Of course that's going downhill... and going up the
>> same hill it
>> shows 8 mpg...
>>
>> Sorry Lynn, couldn't resist<g>, sometimes being curious brings out
>> the
>> smart-ass in me.
>>
>> But seriously, I have yet to install my rather expensive fuel flow
>> meter in
>> my 582 KF2 so am watching this thread with interest. So - 10 mph
>> into a 90
>> mph wind - IAS or GPS? IAS you are going a true 90, GPS probably
>> 80. To me
>> IAS is the only thing that is important for fuel flow, a 10 mph
>> headwind
>> only affects how much fuel and time it will take to get where
>> you're goin'.
>>
>> But more importantly "twist[ing] the throttle back" did what?
>> Lowered the
>> airspeed? You found a convenient "hill" to maintain airspeed? What
>> was the
>> gph before?
>>
>> On my KF2 I hope to find a cruise "sweet spot" with the fuel flow
>> meter. At
>> or below 65 it tends to mush and needs more throttle, once I get
>> it on
>> "plane" it speeds up, speeding up further I suspect will suck more
>> fuel. At
>> some IAS, unique to each plane no doubt, there's a best economy
>> cruise.
>>
>> Welcome to Saturday morning pedantry, but I know you enjoy the
>> challenge!(?)
>>
>> Bob Brennan - N717GB
>> ELSA Repairman, inspection rated
>> 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox taildragger
>> Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
>> Wrightsville Pa
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn
>> Matteson
>> Sent: 13 March 2009 10:40 pm
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow Display
>>
>>
>> Kinda like starting the ol' engine up without a prop, eh Snake, just
>> to see what she sounds like? A little impatience at the wrong time
>> might not be a good thing.
>>
>> Speaking of fuel flow, I was flying today, and even into a 10 mph
>> wind at about 90 mph, I was able to twist the throttle back to see
>> 2.9 gph on my Northstar Fuel Flow meter. It's surprising how just a
>> little less throttle will gain so much in fuel economy.
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
>> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs
>> Sensenich 62x46
>> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
>> Status: flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2009, at 9:55 PM, akflyer wrote:
>>
>>> <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> did you guys try to power up the unit without it being hooked to
>>> the ducer first? or was it hooked to ducer, and would not power up
>>> on the initial try? Alot of instruments don't like to have power
>>> to them without the ducer being installed. If that was the case,
>>> and you were impatient and wanted to see what it would do before
>>> the ducer was hooked up, you may have toasted a good instrument.
>>>
>>> Don't know for sure if you did or not, just tossing it out there.
>>>
>>> snake
>>>
>>> --------
>>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>> Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
>>> Soldotna AK
>>> Avid "C" / Mk IV
>>> 582 IVO IFA
>>> Full Lotus 1260
>>> #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
>>>
>>> hander outer of humorless darwin awards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234520#234520
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 |
That was sad news. Age 57 is way too early to go West. Our
condolences go to his family.
FYI: Jeff's email address was: "jeff puls" <pulsair(at)mindspring.com>
Rick Weiss
N39RW Series V Speedster, 912ULS
SkyStar S/N 1
Port Orange, FL
On Mar 15, 2009, at 11:41 AM, KITFOXZ@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hello Kitfoxers,
>
> Jeff Puls, a long time Kitfox enthusiast and Kitfox List member,
> died yesterday apparently of natural causes. He was 57. Jeff was
> extremely instrumental in getting me started with my Series V kit in
> the summer of 1995. We worked together that summer to finish his
> beautiful Classic lV and to fly it. Jeff contributed to The List
> discussions over the years and dearly loved all aspects of flying.
>
> A Columbus Ohio Police Department Lieutenant. when I met him in '95,
> he was the commander of the Columbus, Ohio Police Helicopter
> Division. He quickly saw the need to move up from recip.
> helicopters to turbines and fought to get the first ex-Army OH-58's
> into the Columbus Police inventory. Today there are at least 6 new
> Rockwell turbine ships flying for our city's safety.
>
> A stickler for honesty, detail and safety, when the big day arrived,
> he refused to take me up in his Classic lV for a spin around the
> patch until he burned off a few gallons of fuel so that we would be
> right at, but not an ounce over gross!
>
> Jeff is survived by his wife Donna, also a Columbus Police officer.
>
> The Columbus Dispatch : Police lieutenant found dead at substation
>
>
> John P. Marzluf
> Columbus, Ohio
> Outback (outback in the garage)
>
> A Good Cr75x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F
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> %3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62"> See yours in
> just 2 easy steps!
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 |
On Mar 15, 2009, at 11:41 AM, KITFOXZ@aol.com wrote:
> Jeff Puls, a long time Kitfox enthusiast and Kitfox List member,
> died yesterday apparently of natural causes. He was 57.
I am sorry to hear that, John. The problem with making friend is that you risk
to loose them, one day. Even if they are internet friends, it always hurt. My
thoughts are with his family.
Looking at my wife, I think I can imagine how they feel. When I had my cardiac
arrest, last summer, I wasn't worried; I just passed out. But for her, it was
a terrible moment, during the five minutes they tried to rescucite me in the ambulance.
Death isn't terrible; we don't feel anything. But it is terrible for our loved
ones. We all have lost close loved ones at one time or another and we know the
pain is always there. I can't understand the evolutionist need for it, but ...
it is there all the same.
Meanwhile, I wish I could fly as much as our friend Lynn, right now but ... they
say you're old when you have more memories than dreams. Hell, I still have a
lot of dreams, just wait and see, mister! :-)
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 - hasn't been flying for months.
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| Subject: | Re: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 |
On Sun, March 15, 2009 8:40 am, Lynn Matteson wrote:
>
> That is sad news, John....I recall Jeff posting here, but a search of
> my saved mail didn't show up anything with his name on it.
Here's the most recent 200 messages on Matronics that are from, about, or refer
to Jeff
<http://tinyurl.com/ctoe5m>
Here's all the rest
<http://tinyurl.com/czcm64>
Here's all the messages Jeff posted on Sport Flight - 301 altogether:
<http://tinyurl.com/cw9hw4>
--
Paul A. Franz
Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
425.241.1618 Cell
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car
keys to teenage boys.
-- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the
taxidermist leaves the skin.
-- Mark Twain
If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it's still a foolish thing.
-- Bertrand Russell
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| Subject: | Flaperon Damage. |
Hey all, I have a little damage that needs to be fixed, I just wanted to check
and see if this is the appropriate way.
I made a set of wing covers that come down over the flaperons, and around the corners
pretty tight, apparently too tight. We have had several really bad wind
storms, with 45+ MPH winds in the past few weeks. Apparently, even though I
had it strapped down well, it pulled too hard on the flapperon.
Let me see if I can describe the damage without pictures. It is on the end of
the flapperon, closest to the fuselage. The end cap is basically just epoxy,
filling in over the foam. The epoxy broke loose, and the sheet metal apparently
bent up so that the rivet through the sheet metal, and into the rod, rounded
out the hole. Argh... that is not the best explanation.
So basically, it needs a new epoxy end cap and re-riveted. The A&P at the field
is going to fix it like this. He is going to drill out the old rivet, put
a sheet metal patch over the rounded out hole, and rivet it in front and back,
then put a new rivet through the original hole.
Sounds reasonable to me, just wanted to verify that it sounded like a good plan
to all of the builders, and A&Ps out there.
Andrew
815TL, Kitfox II, Rotax 582 C
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My kitfox III has stock tires on it. I believe they are 16X6.5X8. A friend
gave me a couple new 18X8.5X8 tires which are of course wider. Will they
fit the stock wheels?
Pete
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Question |
> My kitfox III has stock tires on it. I believe they are 16X6.5X8. A friend
> gave me a couple new 18X8.5X8 tires which are of course wider. Will they
> fit the stock wheels?
>
> Pete
Pete, 18X8.5X8 tires came with my Kit. I have the Douglas ATV wheels. I have
also put some clown tires (Kingfox) tires on the same wheels. They are even bigger.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperon Damage. |
815TL wrote:
> So basically, it needs a new epoxy end cap and re-riveted. The A&P at the field
is going to fix it like this. He is going to drill out the old rivet, put a
sheet metal patch over the rounded out hole, and rivet it in front and back,
then put a new rivet through the original hole.
Andrew, I can't picture the damage from the description. I am only familiar with
the Model 4. It has a "metal rib that the Flaperon horn tube is riveted to
on the inboard end of the flaperon. This gives the strength to secure the flaperon
to the flaperon horn.
Is there some more substantial material other than epoxy that secures the flaperon
horn to the flaperon? I guess a model II owner will chime in. Anyhow, my
2 cents is that the repair needs to be substantial enough to give some strength
there if that is also the attachment for the flaperon horn.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 |
I was building my Kitfox after Jeff finished his and digital camera's had just
started to come into use. Several times Jeff took pictures of various details
on his Kitfox to answer questions I had posted on "The List". I was amazed at
the quality of work he had done and at the technology he used to help me understand
the process.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperon Damage. |
I will try to get some pictures of it tomorrow. My description sucks at best.
:)
It is not the actual horn itself, but the sheet metal that the flapperon is made
from. The rivet goes down through the sheet metal, and through the tube.
That is still intact, but it elongated the hole in the sheet metal.
I really can't think of words to explain it better without pictures. Let me see
if I can find anything that I can use as an example.
Andrew
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I think they will work. I have ~100hrs on a set of 21x12x8 with are mounted
KF IV. I also just bought the same tires for the speedster that I am
building.
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete
Christensen
Sent: March 15, 2009 3:52 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tire Question
--> <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
My kitfox III has stock tires on it. I believe they are 16X6.5X8. A friend
gave me a couple new 18X8.5X8 tires which are of course wider. Will they
fit the stock wheels?
Pete
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My deepest thoughts and Condolences goes out .To Jeff's family..I have
meet Jeff and his wife several times this past year..and his top of the
line Kitfox IV..guys this was one top kitfox flyer and owner..And was
one of the best..One nice guy..Jeff would fly any where to be with other
KITFOX family..I even gave Jeff a Grand Lake Kitfox Fly In 2008 T
shirt..Jeff was a PROUD KITFOX owner and builder..his IV was top
notch..You could not of ask for a better guy...Jeff You Will Be Missed
here on the kitfox list by all of your Kitfox Family...My HART goes out
to your wife and family..Steve Shinabery N554KF KF2...St.Marys Ohio
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