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Wed 03/18/09


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     1. 07:25 AM - Re: Safety Wire Repair Tool (Dennis Golden)
     2. 07:44 AM - Re: Safety Wire Repair Tool (fox5flyer)
     3. 07:49 AM - Zenith 701 for sale on ebay no engine (george.mueller@aurora.org)
     4. 08:06 AM - Re: Wrecked a 2, 709, rudders, gear, two plane solution (Trevor Leathem)
     5. 12:26 PM - Tank Sealing (Joel)
     6. 12:36 PM - Re: Kingfox tires (Catz631@aol.com)
     7. 12:48 PM - Re: Wrecked a 2, 709, rudders, gear, two plane solution (Catz631@AOL.COM)
     8. 02:13 PM - Re: Kingfox tires (Lowell Fitt)
     9. 02:36 PM - Re: Safety Wire Repair Tool (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
    10. 05:50 PM - Re: Fuel overflow at startup (Pete Christensen)
    11. 06:07 PM - Re: Safety Wire Repair Tool (fox5flyer)
    12. 07:47 PM - Re: Safety Wire Repair Tool (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:25:07 AM PST US
    From: Dennis Golden <dgolden@golden-consulting.com>
    Subject: Re: Safety Wire Repair Tool
    Paul A. Franz, P.E. wrote: > <paul@eucleides.com> > > The tool I used to fasten the two ends of a bungee cord together and > for many other things I first saw at an air show but didn't buy it. > Later I wished I had and then did a great deal of searching and found > the source. Regretfully, I don't have that information easily at hand > anymore. > > The first picture shows the tool and a broken hammer handle I fixed > with it using safety wire. > > The next photo is a closeup of the safety wire repair. You can make > as many wraps as you like. I made 6 wraps on bungee cords which is 12 > strands. I think 3 wraps (6 strands) is plenty. > > The last photo is a scan of the instructions that came with the tool. > The repair job was my first trial with the tool. I've been using that > hammer for years since making the repair and it is tight and holds > together like new. Ah, the good old Clamp Tite. I bought one at Oshkosh many years back. After using it I bought several more as gifts for relatives. Everyone loves it. Dennis M IV Speedster (someday) -- Dennis Golden Golden Consulting Services, Inc.


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    Time: 07:44:23 AM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Re: Safety Wire Repair Tool
    I also bought one online for about $25 or so several years ago. It was too small and I wanted something I could use in my plumbing business for things like 1.5 inch black plastic pipe and other things here on the farm. So, using my metal lathe I made one that is about 12" long and using heavy wire I can do some serious clamps. Cost was about zero as I used materials I already had on hand. I haven't used it very often because SS hose clamps work well for most things, but when I need that thing it definitely does the trick. If anyone is interested I'll take a pic of it and post here. Deke Mikado MI S5 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Golden" <dgolden@golden-consulting.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:24 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Safety Wire Repair Tool > <dgolden@golden-consulting.com> > > Paul A. Franz, P.E. wrote: >> <paul@eucleides.com> >> >> The tool I used to fasten the two ends of a bungee cord together and >> for many other things I first saw at an air show but didn't buy it. >> Later I wished I had and then did a great deal of searching and found >> the source. Regretfully, I don't have that information easily at hand >> anymore. >> >> The first picture shows the tool and a broken hammer handle I fixed >> with it using safety wire. >> >> The next photo is a closeup of the safety wire repair. You can make >> as many wraps as you like. I made 6 wraps on bungee cords which is 12 >> strands. I think 3 wraps (6 strands) is plenty. >> >> The last photo is a scan of the instructions that came with the tool. >> The repair job was my first trial with the tool. I've been using that >> hammer for years since making the repair and it is tight and holds >> together like new. > > Ah, the good old Clamp Tite. I bought one at Oshkosh many years back. > After using it I bought several more as gifts for relatives. Everyone > loves it. > > Dennis M IV Speedster (someday) > -- > Dennis Golden > Golden Consulting Services, Inc. > > >


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    Time: 07:49:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Zenith 701 for sale on ebay no engine
    From: george.mueller@aurora.org
    In case anyone on the Kitfox list might be interested, I currently have my 701 for sale on ebay without the engine or FWF (I have the hibble to start a new project, and I plan to keep my Rotax 912UL for the next project.) The reserve price is set at well below the cost of the parts. NO engine, prop or FWF included. You can save 1200 hours of building, the cost of tools, and a few thousand over the cost of the kits. You also have the full range of engine options for the airframe (there are several used Rotax engines currently available on Barnstormers for pretty good prices, people are also seem to be having good luck with the VW engines, which are really inexpensive). The airframe flew beautifully, very light and responsive on the controls, straight as an arrow. The ebay number is: 200321407977. George in Milwaukee N701GM 60 Hours flying


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    Time: 08:06:29 AM PST US
    From: "Trevor Leathem" <jleathem@cogeco.ca>
    Subject: Re: Wrecked a 2, 709, rudders, gear, two plane solution
    Hi Jeff, we had a similar problem with our Model 4 even after we installed the Grove gear. After some harrowing but no-damage ground loops on both hard and grass surfaces, we decided to try disabling the castoring feature from the tail wheel so its angle of rotation would be limited. We have never had a problem since even in strong cross winds and it rolls out perfectly straight on any surface. It's a pain if you have to push the aircraft backwards, which we seldom have to do, but well worth the peace of mind not to mention damage avoidance on landing. Good thing about it trying this is that you can always restore the castoring later if you wish. After 4 years, we never have. Trevor Leathem Ontario


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    Time: 12:26:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Tank Sealing
    From: "Joel" <foxfloatflyer@hotmail.com>
    My rebuild is progressing and I am ready to bond the tanks to the wing spars. Has anyone used the KBS tank sealer system? Since E10 is everywhere these days, I would like to seal the tanks with an ethanol-proof coating. Any advice will be appreciated. -------- Joel Mapes Kitfox 5 912 ULS Aerocomp amphibs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235128#235128


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    Time: 12:36:38 PM PST US
    From: Catz631@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Kingfox tires
    Larry, I believe I have those tubes and tires you are talking about sitting in the overhead of my hanger. I took them off the Kitfox as soon as I saw the "Kingfox" tires in a picture. The tires I had/have have knobs on the side and don't look all that good so I went with the Kingfox look (much cleaner) I couldn't find the actual Kingfox tires anymore so went to the Nankang tire which everyone says is the same. I have had these almost 8 mounths now and am very happy with them. I am running them tubeless and have had no problems. Dick Maddux Fox 4-1200 Pensacola,Fl **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)


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    Time: 12:48:36 PM PST US
    From: Catz631@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Wrecked a 2, 709, rudders, gear, two plane solution
    Jeff, I also suspect you have a gear alignment problem. IF you are thinking about replacing the gear a good solution would be the "bush" gear as I have on my aircraft. It will take your gear spread from 4 ft to almost 7 ft. You now have a very stable airplane on the ground plus you loose about 4 lbs or so over the weight of the standard gear (at least on the 4). You could not give me the standard gear after experiencing the difference between the two! Just a suggestion mind you. Dick Maddux Fox 4 Pensacola,Fl **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)


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    Time: 02:13:04 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Kingfox tires
    Dick, ----- Original Message ----- From: <Catz631@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:30 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kingfox tires > Larry, > I believe I have those tubes and tires you are talking about sitting in > the > overhead of my hanger. I took them off the Kitfox as soon as I saw the > "Kingfox" tires in a picture. The tires I had/have have knobs on the side > and don't > look all that good so I went with the Kingfox look (much cleaner) I > couldn't > find the actual Kingfox tires anymore so went to the Nankang tire which > everyone says is the same. I have had these almost 8 mounths now and am > very happy > with them. I am running them tubeless and have had no problems. > Dick Maddux > Fox 4-1200 > Pensacola,Fl > **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 > or > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) >


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    Time: 02:36:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Safety Wire Repair Tool
    From: "Paul Franz - Merlin GT" <paul@eucleides.com>
    On Wed, March 18, 2009 6:43 am, fox5flyer wrote: > > I also bought one online for about $25 or so several years ago. It was too > small and I wanted something I could use in my plumbing business for things > like 1.5 inch black plastic pipe and other things here on the farm. So, > using my metal lathe I made one that is about 12" long and using heavy wire > I can do some serious clamps. Cost was about zero as I used materials I > already had on hand. I haven't used it very often because SS hose clamps > work well for most things, but when I need that thing it definitely does the > trick. If anyone is interested I'll take a pic of it and post here. Must have been something many people wanted since I see they now sell a big one for $100 or so, depending where you see it advertised that will handle big wire, even coat hanger wire. Making one shouldn't be too hard since it is has just three pieces and a couple pins and a wingnut. Need a swaging tool to connect the nose piece with the tube. -- Paul A. Franz Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP Bellevue WA 425.241.1618 Cell If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J. O'Rourke


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    Time: 05:50:43 PM PST US
    From: "Pete Christensen" <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel overflow at startup
    Clint, I would be interested in your starting procedure and I did a search and did not find it except where you refer to it without details. Pete III 912 Grove ----- Original Message ----- From: Clint Bazzill To: Kitfox list Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel overflow at startup Hi Jim, Check back on the threads on this list. My startup procedure will stop all that. Clint Model IV 1400 plus hours > Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel overflow at startup > From: feldesign@earthlink.net > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:08:04 -0700 > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > <feldesign@earthlink.net> > > My 912 now runs very well at idle and throughout the rpm range, but it shakes violently for a second or so at startup. This causes fuel to be ejected from the vent tubes of the carburetors. > > I set the throttle at idle and use the starting carbs (choke) to start when cold, and just advance the throttle a little when hot. The shaking happens either way, but is worse when cold. Is there a better starting technique? > > I have seen recommendations to run the carb vent tubes into the aircleaners. This might solve the problem of fuel being thrown around the engine compartment, but I am concerned about the effect of throwing the excess gas into the carb throats and/or washing the oil out of the aircleaners. > > Is this a normal condition? Has anyone been able to solve it? > > -------- > Jim Feldmann, 3rd owner > 1994 Kitfox IV Speedster / 912 > Working on my Sport Pilot Certificate > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234993#234993 > > > > > > > >====================== &g====== > > >


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    Time: 06:07:32 PM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Re: Safety Wire Repair Tool
    By popular demand...drum roll. I don't know if I can do coat hangar wire with mine as I haven't tried it, but it'll take some pretty heavy stuff with ease. I've attached a photo of it for those who have expressed interest...and those who haven't. :-) The body is just aluminum tubing, the tip is 5/8 steel rod that is pressed up inside the tubing about an inch, and I used a long bolt down through the middle. The handle is a big nut with short pieces of steel rod welded on each side and ground down to look nice. The only thing I had to buy was the roll pins. Pennies. The small one next to it is the one by Clamptite that I paid $25 for. Deke Morisse Mikado Michigan S5/Subaru/CAP 402+ TT "The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress." - Joseph Joubert > <paul@eucleides.com> > > On Wed, March 18, 2009 6:43 am, fox5flyer wrote: >> >> I also bought one online for about $25 or so several years ago. It was >> too >> small and I wanted something I could use in my plumbing business for >> things >> like 1.5 inch black plastic pipe and other things here on the farm. So, >> using my metal lathe I made one that is about 12" long and using heavy >> wire >> I can do some serious clamps. Cost was about zero as I used materials I >> already had on hand. I haven't used it very often because SS hose clamps >> work well for most things, but when I need that thing it definitely does >> the >> trick. If anyone is interested I'll take a pic of it and post here. > > Must have been something many people wanted since I see they now sell a > big one for > $100 or so, depending where you see it advertised that will handle big > wire, even coat > hanger wire. Making one shouldn't be too hard since it is has just three > pieces and a > couple pins and a wingnut. Need a swaging tool to connect the nose piece > with the > tube. > -- > Paul A. Franz


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    Time: 07:47:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Safety Wire Repair Tool
    From: "Paul Franz - Merlin GT" <paul@eucleides.com>
    On Wed, March 18, 2009 4:56 pm, Deke wrote: > The body is just aluminum tubing, the tip is 5/8 steel rod that is pressed > up inside the tubing about an inch, and I used a > long bolt down through the middle. How'd you cut the slots in the aluminum tube section? Do you have a milling machine? Or just some patience with a Dremel cutoff disc? It looks like ClampTite is using bigger pins in their $100 model and possibly 3/8" roll stock instead of 5/16". They claim theirs will work with 1/8" wire. Boy that would be tough to wrap around the tool and twist tight. Two reasons why I like this method of making clamps is that the result is so much smaller and lighter than using a gear drive hose clamp. I also think that when gripping something like Bungee cords, you can get the connection tighter before you damage the cords which might happen from the sharp edges on a gear drive clamp. With three wraps (6 strands) I could easily compress 2 7/16" bungees to an outside thickness of 7/16" which is less than half the thickness of two of them side by side. I did have to rewrap and tie the safety wire once during the tightening. -- Paul A. Franz Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP Bellevue WA 425.241.1618 Cell The U.S. Justice department said they will no longer use the term "enemy combatant" when talking about detainees at Guantanamo Bay. The new name will be "guys who make you nervous when they're on your flight." The insurance company AIG has done it again. They announced they're giving their executives another $165 million in bonuses. So they bankrupt the company, took $170 billion of our dollars, and they're giving out bonuses. You know the main thing they want to reward their people for? Convincing the Treasury Department to give out $170 billion to a failing company. Now it turns out they gave $35 billion -- not million -- $35 billion of our money to bail out European banks. See, this is how a global economy works. Our hard earned tax dollars are used to bail out German banks for making bad investments in American companies that shut down because their Japanese owners moved the whole thing to India, China and Mexico. You follow? Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner was called before Congress again. Geithner defended himself against criticism, saying he inherited this crisis. In fact, he said when the economy started this downturn he was busy in the private sector cheating on his taxes. Because of the bad economy, they're laying off employees on "Sesame Street." It's pretty sad. Elmo is now out on the street letting people tickle him for $5. -- Jay Leno




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